[RBW] Re: Help with touring route suggestions leaving Seattle, WA

there is a wonderful bike hostel just outside friday harbor ask a local or look it up -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubs

[RBW] Re: Can someone check my wheel size math

Yeah. Point taken. It was, in my head, an economical "oh I could just use my pretty good road wheel set and then I would only have to buy a heavy duty 650b set and that is only x amount of $$$ blah blah" You guys are right though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

I did a few 50+ mile rides with Albatross bars on my Sam Hillborne. Ultimately, I changed them out for Albastache because the sweep of the Albatross made me feel cramped. I like the Albastache setup and pull a trailer with my 2.5 year old using that bike all the time. Works like a charm. Worked

[RBW] Re: Can someone check my wheel size math

I agree that adjusting brake height seems a lot of trouble, more than you would be willing to do on a casual basis. Think about the fiddling you do now just changing pads once you've got the brakes dialed in. Assuming say 42 mm for off road & 30 mm on road, you're looking at a theoretical 12

[RBW] Re: Help with touring route suggestions leaving Seattle, WA

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I think we're really leaning towards trying to put together a route that incorporates the San Juan Islands. Ryan On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 1:50:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Thompson wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > My wife and I are celebrating our 15th anniversary this s

[RBW] Can someone check my wheel size math

I would predict you almost never make the 700c swap. Just get a 650b wheelset for the road. 650b x 42 is great on the road. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Can someone check my wheel size math

My only question is how often you would actually make the swaps, but if you're buying a 650b bike and already have 700c wheels..go for it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving ema

[RBW] Help with touring route suggestions leaving Seattle, WA

In a completely different vein, I'd recommend riding a chunk of the Oregon coast from Astoria to as far as you feel like. I road Astoria to San Francisco in 2014 and I'm trying to do it again this year. Great roads, beautiful scenery, lots of motels. And beaches. There's a cool ride from Portla

[RBW] Help with touring route suggestions leaving Seattle, WA

Hi seattle resident here. I'd recommend the San Juan islands. Washington State Ferries are great for bikes, you get to cut the hellish lines. Lopez is my favorite island, I go there twice every summer. Beautiful and laid back cycling. Camping is great, beach sites!, at Spencer Spit state park. L

[RBW] Can someone check my wheel size math

Ok. Recent thread about me downsizing to one (yeah right) has me pretty well set on keeping the hunqapillar and getting a second Wheelset for roadier rides. Here is my current bizarre thought, which admittedly sounds silly or too good to be true. Most of this relies on the motolite brake vertica

Re: [RBW] Re: Hand comfort and bar position; in particular: stem extension and its effect on hand comfort

Except you have to buy the stem first, and you will only have minor bar adjustments available after you get the saddle right -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, s

Re: [RBW] Re: Hand comfort and bar position; in particular: stem extension and its effect on hand comfort

+1 -- well, almost. Get the saddle where it should be, and then get the bar where it should be. On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Ron Mc wrote: > [...] the most important thing is getting the saddle in the right place > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou

[RBW] Re: Hand comfort and bar position; in particular: stem extension and its effect on hand comfort

Four different frame sizes, four different long-distance riding positions. While I started with reach measurements for the stems, and there are some limited adjustments in stem height and bar rotation,

[RBW] Re: Hand comfort and bar position; in particular: stem extension and its effect on hand comfort

Garth, that must be you. I'm 6'3" but all my height is in my limbs. I "outgrew" the 120mm stem on my old GP, which is what sent me to moustache bars, and I found a perfect solution. Long top-tube bikes don't work for me, and the longest stem I run now is 100mm on my 64 cm Moser with short-re

Re: [RBW] Hand comfort and bar position; in particular: stem extension and its effect on hand comfort

I'm running a 70mm stem with my moustache bars. I can ride all day on the hoods (farthest reach position) without ever putting any weight on them. Still, it's about saddle/knee position. On my 24" International, I'm good with a Nitto S83 offset seatpost, up high, and the saddle pushed all th

[RBW] Re: Hand comfort and bar position; in particular: stem extension and its effect on hand comfort

This is why I have always insisted on the longest TT frames with the longest stems I could find since I became aware of this way back when. But even still, with too short of a TT, even a long 150mm riser stem could not save the awkward feel I had on ye ol' 1983 Stumpumper ! . Now it's eith

Re: [RBW] Hand comfort and bar position; in particular: stem extension and its effect on hand comfort

My body demands the bars in different locations depending on the bike to be comfortable. Bob Jackson track bike - below saddle by about a 2cm. Rando Boulder about 1cm below. Jones a tad above saddle height, Cheviot about 3cm above saddle height. Have never measured reach but assume that it is

Re: [RBW] Hand comfort and bar position; in particular: stem extension and its effect on hand comfort

On 06/03/2017 06:46 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: Yes, I've experienced this phenomenon with a bar being too close. There seems to be a point at which a bar is so close that a rider's hands/arms react by trying to "push through" to the proper location, resulting in too much hand pressure on the bar.

[RBW] Hand comfort and bar position; in particular: stem extension and its effect on hand comfort

Yes, I've experienced this phenomenon with a bar being too close. There seems to be a point at which a bar is so close that a rider's hands/arms react by trying to "push through" to the proper location, resulting in too much hand pressure on the bar. It sounds counterintuitive that a closer bar

[RBW] Re: OT: June 2 blahg

A little like tubulars vs. clinchers, analogy-wise. Sorta. In a way. On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 4:18:40 PM UTC-4, Christopher Cote wrote: > > I have been seeing a resurgence of film lately. I was a little bummed, I > sold all my film camera gear at what was probably the bottom of the market >

[RBW] Hand comfort and bar position; in particular: stem extension and its effect on hand comfort

Just rode the Hon Solo one more time. After suffering recently on a 5+ mile climbing ride on the Dahon Hon Solo, equipped with the original edition Moustache bar, I installed the 2" extension on the otherwise no-extension bar mast (thanks for the device, Joe), and put the same M-bar back on. Same

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

Thanks, Ron, Panog, et al! That makes sense and it also makes sense as another reason why I so love the Albastache/new Moustache. It's, for me, the best of both worlds. Ron, yes -- not needing/and even better not liking cushion for bars or gloves is a sign of proper bars and use of core. Anothe

Re: [RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

Just think: a Hunqapillar or an Atlantis with hydraulic discs, front-wheel swap-in electric motor, and full-time concierge parking service, and most radical of all, *no second top tube!* C'mon, Grant! Seriously, I can believe you. I've not tried hydraulic discs except for the one time I sampled my

Re: [RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

What are you trying to stop with them? I've got 1.5 hydraulic brakes sitting in my bike mess at home (I have a plan to put a disc brake onto a Bob Yak trailer) and I spent some time with them on a regular bike but didn't really see any difference between them and the mechanical discs I put on

Re: [RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

"And I hear that hydraulic disc brakes are even more powerful and that they modulate even better than the best mechanicals." If you ever want to get brake-spoiled, try hydraulics. Power and modulation with light hand pressure out the kazoo; they make even the mechanical discs on my folder feel

[RBW] Re: Help with touring route suggestions leaving Seattle, WA

i live in bellingham. vancouver and the galloping goose is a great ride with a moserate ride type companion. i haven t found great food in victoria or sidney although the greek place in the side street in sidney is ok/good enough. getting a place in Port Townsend and doing day rides is a good op

[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT Bar End Pods/Thumbie Mounts

I found a pair! Thanks!! On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 12:06:05 PM UTC-7, Leif Eckstrom wrote: > > Hey Tim! > I'd love to make this trade. > Thanks, > Leif in Chicago > > On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 1:42:23 PM UTC-5, Timothy Orr wrote: >> >> Hey! >> >> I'm hoping to swap my IRD/Silver thumbies f

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

I have flat bars on several bikes, and I enjoy them. I ride about 60% time with drops, about 40% on flat/"alternative" bars. My favorites *by far* are One-One Mary's. The perfect fit for me is to install the upside down (See pics). Many, many long rides (75k and more), mostly with plenty of c

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

Kent Peterson used to ride very long distances with a flat bar fixed / single speed. On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 2:28:56 PM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote: > > I use the Bosco Bars from Rivendell on my touring bike and bike of choice > for 100k charity rides. They not only provide a huge range of h

Re: [RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

I've potholed a few rims, and the main damage to them is the brake track. You /can/ get the bend out (one of my potholed rims is a 650b ztr355, which can't be replaced for love or money now that Stans has drunk deep from the disc brake well, so you can be assured that I fixed that wagon and

[RBW] Re: OT: June 2 blahg

I have been seeing a resurgence of film lately. I was a little bummed, I sold all my film camera gear at what was probably the bottom of the market a few years ago. I gave it some thought to get back into it, and then I looked up film processing prices in my area. And then remembered shooting r

Re: [RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

On 06/03/2017 03:24 PM, Garth wrote: If I am going to compare costs between this and that, it has to be the total cost of ownership. So sure, rims and pads may wear down and require replacement, but a wheel of disc brakes is not immune to the same and/or it's own issues. They are still rel

Re: [RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

If I am going to compare costs between this and that, it has to be the total cost of ownership. So sure, rims and pads may wear down and require replacement, but a wheel of disc brakes is not immune to the same and/or it's own issues. They are still relatively new so long term costs are often

Re: [RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

I happily use calipers on 3 of my 4 bikes, but for an off road bike with 700C wheels -- = heavy -- discs have some advantages that haven't been mentioned. 1. IME, they are *not* less efficient than cantilevers or V brakes; in fact, the mechanical discs I've used are as powerful as most rim brakes

Re: [RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

I find it surprisingly not surprising at all much of the bike biz has gone hog wild for disc brakes. I actually prefer to brake as little and as light as possible, and I live in area where there are many 1 mile and under steep and curvy rolly polly hills to ride on. I drive my pickup the sam

[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT Bar End Pods/Thumbie Mounts

Hey Tim! I'd love to make this trade. Thanks, Leif in Chicago On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 1:42:23 PM UTC-5, Timothy Orr wrote: > > Hey! > > I'm hoping to swap my IRD/Silver thumbies for some bar end pods. Anyone > interested in a trade? I'd also be willing to buy some bar end pods. The > Riv

[RBW] Re: FS: Choco-Norm Bar, Tallux Stem, Paul Thumbies, Shimano Bar Ends, Sugino Triple

Everything is sold. Thanks, Dave! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] WTB/WTT Bar End Pods/Thumbie Mounts

Hey! I'm hoping to swap my IRD/Silver thumbies for some bar end pods. Anyone interested in a trade? I'd also be willing to buy some bar end pods. The Riv site won't have them back in until after a mini-tour I have planned. Thanks to everyone who reached out from my previous post! Tim O. Por

Re: [RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Grant Petersen wrote: ... ... > Bikes aren't lite versions of motor vehicles, and adopting > motor-technology unnecessarily on bicycles in order to make them appear > more high tech (and when you see disc brakes on citi-bikes, what else can > it be?) is legal an

Re: [RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 9:50:41 AM UTC-7, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > I'm probably becoming a predictable bore on disc brakes, but still and for > the record, except for the few conditions where it's an obvious benefit to > get the brake away from the tire (mudglop and grit), the rim IS a

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

I use the Bosco Bars from Rivendell on my touring bike and bike of choice for 100k charity rides. They not only provide a huge range of hand positions but an even greater range of body postures. I've never experienced any pain or numbness in my hands since I started using them. Marc On Frida

[RBW] Re: FS: Choco-Norm Bar, Tallux Stem, Paul Thumbies, Shimano Bar Ends, Sugino Triple

I'll take the Sugino triple if it's still available. Sorry to reply publicly, which I know is discouraged, but the email I just sent to you got kicked back to me as undeliverable. Dave On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 8:23:21 AM UTC-4, Johnny Alien wrote: > > Forgot to mention the crankset lengt

Re: [RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 9:02 AM, drew wrote: > I don't know if I would buy one (and since he's already said he's against > it, it would sorta make me sad) but I think it would be a good move for the > company and they would sell a lot. It would also help to differentiate the > models, which are ge

[RBW] WTB Right Side Bar End Shifter Friction

I need a right side only Bar end shifter that is friction. Anyone have one laying around they don't need? Thanks, Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

I agree. As I've been attempting to perfect my bike stable, attempting to have the least amount of bikes for all my possible riding, I've found myself with 3 of my 5 bikes with disc brakes, and down to one Riv (Rosco v2) where I had as many as 4 at one time (Hilsen, Hillborne, Romulus, Rosco) - if

Re: [RBW] OT: June 2 blahg

What I want is a patch with "Don't Happy/Be Worry" on it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To p

[RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

I don't know if I would buy one (and since he's already said he's against it, it would sorta make me sad) but I think it would be a good move for the company and they would sell a lot. It would also help to differentiate the models, which are getting pretty overlappy on the dirt and tour side.

Re: [RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

Not only wind resistance, but loss of power, since you need a certain minimum angle between hips and torso to bring all possible muscles into play. But these are theoretical matters; you can certainly get aero and bent forward with bars other than drop bars. On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 9:26 AM, panog

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

@Deacon Patrick Wind resistance. Wind resistance of an erect upper body, specially against a head-on wind, is a significant draw of power if one is to maintain a set speed. If this set speed is in the mid to upper teens, aerodynamic drag is a significant factor to overcome and becomes much more

[RBW] Re: FS / FT Berthoud, Noodle Cockpit, Velocity 650b Cliffhanger wheelset, and and and

Mavic shoes are SOLD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

pss - if you do it right, you'll find yourself hating padded gloves. I've ridden nothing but giro zero for 5+ years. On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 9:10:46 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > Should also add saddle and knee position for the bike and riding position > are equally important. Usually the

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

Should also add saddle and knee position for the bike and riding position are equally important. Usually the more upright the ride, the farther back and lower you need the saddle. On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 9:06:26 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > I'll throw in my ideas, Deac. > Straight wrist

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

I'll throw in my ideas, Deac. Straight wrists, bent elbows, relaxed neck and shoulders are first priority. When you get to the contact on your hands, aside from not wanting to lean on them, you want to be able to control the bike with a natural relaxed rest, and of course be able to instantl

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

Could you help me understand what you are saying here? For this to be true requires an inefficiency to be introduced to the "comfy" handlebar system that doesn't exist in the drop handlebar system. What is that inefficiency? The only inefficiency I experience, and it is relatively negligible out

[RBW] Re: FT/WTB: Tubus Vega Silver Rear Rack for Nitto/Tubus Rear Rack w/ wider top platform

I don't have one to trade, but the Soma Rakku has one of the widest platforms that I have seen. It also has 6 threaded holes for mounting on top of the rack, and is a very beefy rack. http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/rakku-rear-rack On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 9:38:50 AM UTC-4, David B

[RBW] Re: FS: Choco-Norm Bar, Tallux Stem, Paul Thumbies, Shimano Bar Ends, Sugino Triple

Forgot to mention the crankset length. 170 How about $75 shipped -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.

[RBW] FS: Brooks Cambium C17 - Slate

I have a good condition Cambium C17 in slate. $90 shipped in the USA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegro

[RBW] Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

Lots of good info on this thread and in particular the point about looking at the whole setup, not just the type of bars, to combat hand pain. I use Albastache bars on my upright-est bike and the overall setup makes for a very comfortable ride. I also use the widest saddle I have ever used (Broo

[RBW] Re: CETMA rack and Sackville ShopSack

The bag has been sold but the CETMA rack is still available. Final price drop for the rack is $80.00 shipped CONUS. On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 9:51:36 AM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote: > > >

[RBW] Re: OT: June 2 blahg

cheapish. Film is nice, but it's a constant money drain if you use it a lot. And if you use pentasaurs (with the notable exception of the auto 110) those cheap lenses will live just as happily on a digital back as on a film one. It doesn't help that collectors have started to sweep up old