[RBW] Re: What are the uses of a mini rack (like Mark's)

[Ash A]

Thanks Ron.  The double kickstand is not my thing.  Velcro strap will solve 
the problem most of the times.  

I am trying to think of solution that can be deployed in like couple of 
seconds.  For example when I'm at a grocery isle and have to free my hands 
for a minute.  I'm thinking if I turn the handlebar to the right and tie 
the right side of the bar to the seat or something, the bike will be pretty 
stable on the kickstand.  Something like a retractable phone charging cable 
might work :)




On Friday, 30 June 2017 03:41:39 UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Ash, 
> A velcro strap between downtube and front wheel will solve the weight 
> swing problem.  
> Other choice is a double kickstand.  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: What are the uses of a mini rack (like Mark's)

[Ash A]

John,  that's already pretty innovative method to secure the basket!

Initially I was hesitant to commit the basket to Mark's rack with zip ties. 
  I did it anyway because I had a box full of them.   Been two months and 
haven't had a reason to cut them off.  If I remove the basket now, I will 
miss it big time every now and then :)



On Friday, 30 June 2017 03:19:22 UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> As others mentioned, I also use mine for mounting lights (on Paul's Gino 
> light mounts) and as a base for a Wald basket.  Never committed to the 
> zip-tied Wald.  I use a John's Irish Strap for easy on/off.  I've come up 
> with a few more secure ways since this photo was taken: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/16159037984/in/dateposted-public/
>
> John
>
> On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 12:40:02 AM UTC-7, Ash A wrote:
>>
>> They make the bike look cooler, but can they be used for anything else 
>> than holding a basket (like Wald's wire basket) ?
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: (GIF) Don't know how this can be explained

[Lee Legrand]

That looks real to me. The air pressure that is typically on the front of
the body was removed and basically had air hitting the head and shoulder
and passing around the body.

On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 9:37 PM, ascpgh  wrote:

> Sort of beckons the story of Rollie Free and his Bonneville record run on
> a Vincent HRD motorcycle in 1948, in the same position.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 4:50:07 PM UTC-4, Ash A wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://twitter.com/markzohar/status/876847118190878720
>>
>>
>> Can aerodynamics make that much difference?!  Others are cranking like
>> machines, yet how can he pass them like he's powered by a jetpack.  Perhaps
>> it is a video trick.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Need new shoes

[Tim Butterfield]

There is a huge difference between barefoot and any kind of shoe, even the
"barefoot" kind.  Some of the more minimalist shoes might let the foot move
more fully, but they are still a restriction.  It is similar to moving from
a cast to an ace bandage to a surgical glove.  The latter may be the most
minimal, but it is still not as sensitive as bare skin.  It also takes a
not insignificant amount of time to build up a foot that is used to
(atrophied from) being in a cast.

As for a bike shoe, I like a sandal when weather allows it.  Currently,
that is a Luna Sandal.  I consider it as 'portable ground' with only a bare
foot on top of it.  But, it protects me from the spikes of my pedals and
from scraping my feet on the ground when coming to a stop.

Tim


On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Michael Hechmer  wrote:

> Thanks for the advice Deacon.  I tried the "barefoot" shoe thing both for
> walking and cycling a few years ago without much success.  I went to a new
> podiatrist who told me that my problem was that I was not fat enough!
> While I was still reveling in ecstasy he added that he was only referring
> to my feet!  I had never focused on it before but suddenly realized that my
> feet have virtually no fat to cushion them and he recommend some well
> supported NB shoes, which have served me well.  I also do well in Keens,
> and have both the Austins & an older commuter bike sandal, and until
> recently the Austin Pedlars.
>
> Michael
>
>

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[RBW] Re: (GIF) Don't know how this can be explained

[ascpgh]

Sort of beckons the story of Rollie Free and his Bonneville record run on a 
Vincent HRD motorcycle in 1948, in the same position. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 4:50:07 PM UTC-4, Ash A wrote:
>
>
>
> https://twitter.com/markzohar/status/876847118190878720
>
>
> Can aerodynamics make that much difference?!  Others are cranking like 
> machines, yet how can he pass them like he's powered by a jetpack.  Perhaps 
> it is a video trick.
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[RBW] Re: Need new shoes

[ted]

Michael,

You might look at the Giro Republic shoe. The uppers are pretty nice, they 
are walkable (sdp/frog compatible) with replaceable wear pads, they are 
lace up (no buckles or velcro) and don't look too goofy to me. I'm very 
happy with my pair and frogs. 

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 4:26:39 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> Urgh,  I have this sinking feeling I left my Ausrtin Pedlars  with Frog 
> cleats at a trail head.  Anyway i can't find them anywhere and that's the 
> last place I remember seeing them.   They are my all time favorite shoe / 
> cleat combination. I have very tender feet and the combination of the 
> pretty stiff sole, moveable cleat and walk about looks provided everything 
> I wanted.  My web search suggests that Keen no longer makes the pedlar. 
>  Does anyone know of a source or a good alternative?
>
> I gave my White ind. pedals to my wife and see that they are now $239, 
> ouch.  I looked at the RBW site and they no longer sell the MKS Touring 
> pedal, which gave me a WTF moment.
>
> Suggestions welcome.
>
> Michael
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Discs versus calipers

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks.

Gawd, this all-over-the-field "discussion" makes me happy to be on the rbw list.

Upshot of all the back-and-forth: discs (hydraulic? Not said) modulate better 
-- maybe.

I'm mot convinced. (Note origonal question.)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 2, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Garth  wrote:
> 
> Here is a good discussion about rim and disc brakes . 
> http://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/1092227-braking-stopping-power-question.html
> 
> Apparently carbon makes for a poor brake surface for any brake, unless you 
> are an F1 team and have the unlimited funds to make some discs that do work 
> well in F1 cars. The rims the pros use today are aluminum based and carbon 
> fused on the exterior to all but the braking surface. So you get lighter rims 
> than alloy alone and that still have an alloy braking surface. 
> 
> While the bike industry would love for pros to adopt their brakes, many have 
> tried them but prefer rim brakes. When it comes to riders safety they should 
> always be the ones making the call. So both brakes have their place for 
> certain riders and conditions. For many though the idea of adding signifigant 
> weight to the bike trumps the endless argument of better/worse. Yes, for them 
> it is signifigant. And then there are still some safety concerns of the 
> roters since they are so sharp and the possiblility of a deep cut, different 
> than a chainring. 
> 
> Aa for the perceived power and race strategy, riding a bike is really an art. 
> It's not just what you ride but how you ride it, your intuition of how and 
> when and why to take corners let alone everything else about it. Each is 
> unique, Such is life !  Bravo !  
> 
> Winning a sprint has nothing to do with brakes of course, and what you see on 
> TV of close-ups of Kittels discs makes for good advertising and all, as does 
> the whole race. But discs are pereived as "new and hot", look, "our hero 
> Marcel rides discs, buy some".  Human see human copy  that's the theory 
> at least ahahahahahaa !  
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[RBW] Need new shoes

[Garth]

Mks touring pedals are sold all over the bike shop www world. 



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[RBW] Re: Discs versus calipers

[Garth]

Here is a good discussion about rim and disc brakes . 
http://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/1092227-braking-stopping-power-question.html

Apparently carbon makes for a poor brake surface for any brake, unless you are 
an F1 team and have the unlimited funds to make some discs that do work well in 
F1 cars. The rims the pros use today are aluminum based and carbon fused on the 
exterior to all but the braking surface. So you get lighter rims than alloy 
alone and that still have an alloy braking surface. 

While the bike industry would love for pros to adopt their brakes, many have 
tried them but prefer rim brakes. When it comes to riders safety they should 
always be the ones making the call. So both brakes have their place for certain 
riders and conditions. For many though the idea of adding signifigant weight to 
the bike trumps the endless argument of better/worse. Yes, for them it is 
signifigant. And then there are still some safety concerns of the roters since 
they are so sharp and the possiblility of a deep cut, different than a 
chainring. 

Aa for the perceived power and race strategy, riding a bike is really an art. 
It's not just what you ride but how you ride it, your intuition of how and when 
and why to take corners let alone everything else about it. Each is unique, 
Such is life !  Bravo !  

Winning a sprint has nothing to do with brakes of course, and what you see on 
TV of close-ups of Kittels discs makes for good advertising and all, as does 
the whole race. But discs are pereived as "new and hot", look, "our hero Marcel 
rides discs, buy some".  Human see human copy  that's the theory at 
least ahahahahahaa !  

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[RBW] Re: Need new shoes

[Deacon Patrick]

Huh. Very interesting. My feet have definatly gotten "fatter" (thicker 
pads, neither fat nor calluses), but it takes time to build up, and likely 
longer if you are wearing "barefoot" shoes.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 5:44:48 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> Thanks for the advice Deacon.  I tried the "barefoot" shoe thing both for 
> walking and cycling a few years ago without much success.  I went to a new 
> podiatrist who told me that my problem was that I was not fat enough! 
>  While I was still reveling in ecstasy he added that he was only referring 
> to my feet!  I had never focused on it before but suddenly realized that my 
> feet have virtually no fat to cushion them and he recommend some well 
> supported NB shoes, which have served me well.  I also do well in Keens, 
> and have both the Austins & an older commuter bike sandal, and until 
> recently the Austin Pedlars.
>
> Michael
>
> On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 7:32:29 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Michael, I can't help with the shoes, but if you are interested in 
>> something that may help the tender feet, I can help with that. I used to 
>> have feet so tender (and weak, though I didn't know it, save for my "need" 
>> for orthotics) I couldn't walk barefoot in the house on wood floors. Long 
>> story short, for other reasons, I began walking barefoot up and down our 
>> gravel road (out and back is two-tenths of a mile) daily. Boy howdy! Was 
>> that a challenging experience! But my feet woke up and got stronger. They 
>> tingled for two weeks straight, like a leg that falls asleep then gets 
>> blood back. My feet just needed to escape their prison and be used as God 
>> intended and get strong again. Perhaps something similar in your case?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>>
>>> Urgh,  I have this sinking feeling I left my Ausrtin Pedlars  with Frog 
>>> cleats at a trail head.  Anyway i can't find them anywhere and that's the 
>>> last place I remember seeing them.   They are my all time favorite shoe / 
>>> cleat combination. I have very tender feet and the combination of the 
>>> pretty stiff sole, moveable cleat and walk about looks provided everything 
>>> I wanted.  My web search suggests that Keen no longer makes the pedlar. 
>>>  Does anyone know of a source or a good alternative?
>>>
>>> I gave my White ind. pedals to my wife and see that they are now $239, 
>>> ouch.  I looked at the RBW site and they no longer sell the MKS Touring 
>>> pedal, which gave me a WTF moment.
>>>
>>> Suggestions welcome.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Need new shoes

[Michael Hechmer]

Thanks for the advice Deacon.  I tried the "barefoot" shoe thing both for 
walking and cycling a few years ago without much success.  I went to a new 
podiatrist who told me that my problem was that I was not fat enough! 
 While I was still reveling in ecstasy he added that he was only referring 
to my feet!  I had never focused on it before but suddenly realized that my 
feet have virtually no fat to cushion them and he recommend some well 
supported NB shoes, which have served me well.  I also do well in Keens, 
and have both the Austins & an older commuter bike sandal, and until 
recently the Austin Pedlars.

Michael

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 7:32:29 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Michael, I can't help with the shoes, but if you are interested in 
> something that may help the tender feet, I can help with that. I used to 
> have feet so tender (and weak, though I didn't know it, save for my "need" 
> for orthotics) I couldn't walk barefoot in the house on wood floors. Long 
> story short, for other reasons, I began walking barefoot up and down our 
> gravel road (out and back is two-tenths of a mile) daily. Boy howdy! Was 
> that a challenging experience! But my feet woke up and got stronger. They 
> tingled for two weeks straight, like a leg that falls asleep then gets 
> blood back. My feet just needed to escape their prison and be used as God 
> intended and get strong again. Perhaps something similar in your case?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>
>> Urgh,  I have this sinking feeling I left my Ausrtin Pedlars  with Frog 
>> cleats at a trail head.  Anyway i can't find them anywhere and that's the 
>> last place I remember seeing them.   They are my all time favorite shoe / 
>> cleat combination. I have very tender feet and the combination of the 
>> pretty stiff sole, moveable cleat and walk about looks provided everything 
>> I wanted.  My web search suggests that Keen no longer makes the pedlar. 
>>  Does anyone know of a source or a good alternative?
>>
>> I gave my White ind. pedals to my wife and see that they are now $239, 
>> ouch.  I looked at the RBW site and they no longer sell the MKS Touring 
>> pedal, which gave me a WTF moment.
>>
>> Suggestions welcome.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Paul Racers / Sugino XD2s / Rich-built wheels / BG RnRs / etc

[Matt Beecher]

>
> 9) 700c wheelset - Rich-built. Son28 front hub / Shimano Deore LX rear 
> hub. 32 Spokes. Velocity Synergy rims - $375 shipped.
>

Nice wheelset.  If they were 130 spaced, I would probably grab them. GLWS.

Cheers,
Matt B.
Oswego, IL 

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[RBW] Re: Need new shoes

[Deacon Patrick]

Michael, I can't help with the shoes, but if you are interested in 
something that may help the tender feet, I can help with that. I used to 
have feet so tender (and weak, though I didn't know it, save for my "need" 
for orthotics) I couldn't walk barefoot in the house on wood floors. Long 
story short, for other reasons, I began walking barefoot up and down our 
gravel road (out and back is two-tenths of a mile) daily. Boy howdy! Was 
that a challenging experience! But my feet woke up and got stronger. They 
tingled for two weeks straight, like a leg that falls asleep then gets 
blood back. My feet just needed to escape their prison and be used as God 
intended and get strong again. Perhaps something similar in your case?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> Urgh,  I have this sinking feeling I left my Ausrtin Pedlars  with Frog 
> cleats at a trail head.  Anyway i can't find them anywhere and that's the 
> last place I remember seeing them.   They are my all time favorite shoe / 
> cleat combination. I have very tender feet and the combination of the 
> pretty stiff sole, moveable cleat and walk about looks provided everything 
> I wanted.  My web search suggests that Keen no longer makes the pedlar. 
>  Does anyone know of a source or a good alternative?
>
> I gave my White ind. pedals to my wife and see that they are now $239, 
> ouch.  I looked at the RBW site and they no longer sell the MKS Touring 
> pedal, which gave me a WTF moment.
>
> Suggestions welcome.
>
> Michael
>

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[RBW] Need new shoes

[Michael Hechmer]

Urgh,  I have this sinking feeling I left my Ausrtin Pedlars  with Frog 
cleats at a trail head.  Anyway i can't find them anywhere and that's the 
last place I remember seeing them.   They are my all time favorite shoe / 
cleat combination. I have very tender feet and the combination of the 
pretty stiff sole, moveable cleat and walk about looks provided everything 
I wanted.  My web search suggests that Keen no longer makes the pedlar. 
 Does anyone know of a source or a good alternative?

I gave my White ind. pedals to my wife and see that they are now $239, 
ouch.  I looked at the RBW site and they no longer sell the MKS Touring 
pedal, which gave me a WTF moment.

Suggestions welcome.

Michael

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[RBW] Re: FS Garage Sale: 650b SON/White Ind wheelset, Nitto racks, seat posts, stems, more...

[Jonathan D.]

Just sent a PM but hard to know if it went through on the phone. 

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 3:39:50 PM UTC-7, Rob wrote:
> Time to divest!
> 
> 
> All items OBO, and plus the actual cost of the shipping method of your 
> choice, with local pickup in Seattle preferred. As always, if the price seems 
> out of line for the item, make me a reasonable offer. 
> 
> 
> Pics here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/robharrison/HaHy51
> 
> 
> 650b Handbuilt Generator Rebuilt Wheelset.  Rebuilt by Tyler at G in 
> Seattle, with new rims and spokes on older hubs. About 1,500 miles on them. 
> Hubs: 8-year-old SON20 delux generator front and White Industries Mi5 rear 
> with new bearings. Rims: new 650B 32H front, 36H rear Compass Cycles Gran 
> Bois polished; Spokes: new Wheelsmith 2.0-1.7-2.0.  They’d be about $985 new 
> not counting the included rim tape, tubes and Compass Cycle Babyshoe Pass 
> 42mm tires. Tires are close to being done though. No skewers. $600.
> 
> 
> IRD/Rivendell 8-speed Cassette 12-34 used with the above, ~1,500 miles. $20. 
> Get the matching chain, too!
> 
> 
> Wippermann Connex 8-speed Stainless Chain, 1,500 miles. Lots of life left! 
> $25.
> 
> Nitto S83 2-bolt Seatpost. 27.2mm diameter, 200mm long. (50mm shorter than 
> the standard one you can get from Rivendell for $97.) Shows definite evidence 
> of use, but still beautiful and functions perfectly. $60.
> 
> 
> Nitto Jaguar SP-72 Track 2-Bolt Seatpost. Brand new, never been mounted. 
> 27.2mm. Please note: Rail mounting slots are narrower than standard and ONLY 
> fit track-style saddles. (I missed this!) $50.
> 
> 
> Velo-Orange Cigne Stem Brand new. Mounted once, never ridden. Highly polished 
> version. 31.8mm clamp (use shims if you need 'em). 145mm from bottom of stem 
> to centerline of clamp. Similar to the Cunningham Limp Dick stem Crust makes, 
> but with a little less extension and the handy removable face plate. And half 
> the price, for this one. :) $75.
> 
> 
> Nitto Dirt Drop Stem. 26mm clamp, 80mm extension. Get that bar up to where 
> you want it! Discolored, but may be polishable. Think of it as pre-beausaged! 
> I'll include one Nitto shim, which seems to be what it takes to fit a 25.4mm 
> bar. $20.
> 
> 
> 
> Speedplay Frog clipless pedals, chromoly version, with cleats. $50.
> 
> 
> Gran Bois Randonneur bars. About 37mm at the hoods. Just like the current 
> Compass bars, with the slight upsweep as the bar moves away from the stem n’ 
> all. SUPER comfortable, just like Jan says. A bit of goo from bar tape, but I 
> got most of it off. $75.
> 
> 
> Salsa Woodchipper Bars. One side of one end of the bar was ground off a bit 
> by the previous owner. Can't see it would make much difference. Ready for 
> your drop bar mountain bike conversion. $20
> 
> 
> Rare Nigel Smythe Tweed Trunk Sack, excellent condition, with rain cover. 
> (Mark's Rack shown for scale, not included, but available separately--also 
> listed for sale here.) $100.
> 
> 
> Nitto Mark’s Rack. Designed by Mark at Rivendell, made by Nitto. Super 
> versatile. Can be mounted on the front to support a randonneur bag, or on the 
> rear to support a big rear saddlebag. $100.
> 
> 
> Nitto Big Rear Rack. The older version without the diagonal cross-bracing. 
> Nicer, IMO $175.
> 
> 
> More as I take pictures
> 
> 
> Rob in Seattle

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[RBW] FS Garage Sale: 650b SON/White Ind wheelset, Nitto racks, seat posts, stems, more...

[Rob]

Time to divest!

All items OBO, and plus the actual cost of the shipping method of your 
choice, with local pickup in Seattle preferred. As always, if the price 
seems out of line for the item, make me a reasonable offer. 

Pics here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/robharrison/HaHy51

*650b Handbuilt Generator Rebuilt Wheelset*.  Rebuilt by Tyler at G in 
Seattle, with new rims and spokes on older hubs. About 1,500 miles on them. 
Hubs: 
8-year-old SON20 delux generator front and White Industries Mi5 rear with 
new bearings. Rims: new 650B 32H front, 36H rear Compass Cycles Gran Bois 
polished; Spokes: new Wheelsmith 2.0-1.7-2.0.  They’d be about $985 new not 
counting the included rim tape, tubes and Compass Cycle Babyshoe Pass 42mm 
tires. Tires are close to being done though. No skewers. $600.

*IRD/Rivendell 8-speed Cassette* 12-34 used with the above, ~1,500 miles. 
$20. Get the matching chain, too!

*Wippermann Connex 8-speed Stainless Chain*, 1,500 miles. Lots of life 
left! $25.

*Nitto S83 2-bolt Seatpost*. 27.2mm diameter, 200mm long. (50mm shorter 
than the standard one you can get from Rivendell for $97.) Shows definite 
evidence of use, but still beautiful and functions perfectly. $60.

*Nitto Jaguar SP-72 Track 2-Bolt Seatpost*. Brand new, never been mounted. 
27.2mm. Please note: Rail mounting slots are narrower than standard and 
ONLY fit track-style saddles. (I missed this!) $50.

*Velo-Orange Cigne Stem* Brand new. Mounted once, never ridden. Highly 
polished version. 31.8mm clamp (use shims if you need 'em). 145mm from 
bottom of stem to centerline of clamp. Similar to the Cunningham Limp Dick 
stem Crust makes, but with a little less extension and the handy removable 
face plate. And half the price, for this one. :) $75.

*Nitto Dirt Drop Stem*. 26mm clamp, 80mm extension. Get that bar up to 
where you want it! Discolored, but may be polishable. Think of it as 
pre-beausaged! I'll include one Nitto shim, which seems to be what it takes 
to fit a 25.4mm bar. $20.

*Speedplay Frog clipless pedals*, chromoly version, with cleats. $50.

*Gran Bois Randonneur bars*. About 37mm at the hoods. Just like the current 
Compass bars, with the slight upsweep as the bar moves away from the stem 
n’ all. SUPER comfortable, just like Jan says. A bit of goo from bar tape, 
but I got most of it off. $75.

*Salsa Woodchipper Bars*. One side of one end of the bar was ground off a 
bit by the previous owner. Can't see it would make much difference. Ready 
for your drop bar mountain bike conversion. $20

Rare *Nigel Smythe Tweed Trunk Sack*, excellent condition, with rain cover. 
(Mark's Rack shown for scale, not included, but available separately--also 
listed for sale here.) $100.

*Nitto Mark’s Rack*. Designed by Mark at Rivendell, made by Nitto. Super 
versatile. Can be mounted on the front to support a randonneur bag, or on 
the rear to support a big rear saddlebag. $100.

*Nitto Big Rear Rack*. The older version without the diagonal 
cross-bracing. Nicer, IMO $175.

More as I take pictures

Rob in Seattle











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[RBW] FS: 52cm Clem H, nicer parts that stock, $1500 w/extras

[Jeremy Till]

For sale is one 52cm Clem Smith Jr. complete bike with the H-type frame in 
green.  This was originally one of the pre-production demo bikes that 
Rivendell had for test rides before the first production run.  My wife 
bought it as an off-road bike but it ended up being a bit too big for her. 
  My sister-in-law tried it for a while and came to the same conclusion, so 
time to pass it on.  Full set of pictures here: 

https://flic.kr/s/aHskYwHU5D

Because it was a demo bike, it was built up at Rivendell and has a 
different and nicer mix of parts than the stock bikes, including: 
-FSA Duron sealed bearing headset
-Sugino XD cranks setup as a wide/low double.  
-MKS Sneaker Pedals
-The nice cartridge bearing Silver hubs that come on the Appaloosa and Sam 
now.  
-Shimano CX50 cantilever brakes with the Dia-Compe SS-6 levers.  
-Schwalbe Super Moto X tires--light, puffy, fast, dream ride type tires. 
 Think Super Moto casing with the Big Ben tread.  

We've swapped in a pair of fillet brazed 58cm Bosco Bullmoose bars, from a 
special batch that had the bar brazed onto the extensions at a slightly 
different angle than the stock ones, so that the ends of the bars angle 
down a bit more.  To me, they feel like they put my wrists in a more 
natural position.  I'm not sure if Riv ever officially listed them but John 
at Rivelo had a pair when I visited last summer and I bought them from him. 
 

My wife also never really liked the "click but not indexed" thumb shifters 
that came with it so we swapped in front and rear Shimano Deore index 
trigger shifters, as well as a XT front derailleur.  The shifting works 
great now.  There is some marking in the paint on the seatube where the 
original Claris front derailleur was, since the XT one mounts lower.  I 
still have the original shifters if you would prefer those.  

Aside from the front derailleur marking, being a test bike the finishing 
isn't perfect; their is some cracking on the decals, the right hand one 
isn't completely straight, and the headbadge isn't exactly centered. 
 However, it does have some nice paint touches that don't come on the 
complete bikes: the "wings" on the top of the fork crown are painted white, 
the "RBW"s on the headtube rings are filled in white, as well as the 
windows on the seat lug.  

Along with all this I'm throwing in a Nitto Mini Front Rack with matching 
Sackville TrunkSack Small bag, as well as a pair of Specialized Ground 
Control Sport 650b x 2.1" knobby tires for off-roading with.  $1500 for all 
of this, and no need to wait for Rivendell to get them back in stock.  

I'm located in Sacramento, CA with easy access to the SF Bay Area.  If 
you're interested but elsewhere let me know and we can talk about shipping. 
 

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[RBW] Re: Discs versus calipers

[Jon BALER]

The tour de France made history today with disc brakes... But my rosco Bubbe v2 
has been great with caliper brakes. 

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[RBW] Re: Discs versus calipers

[Patrick Moore]

Speaking of discs versus calipers, I've read in more than one place that
discs are useful on racing bikes because they stop faster and therefore let
you go faster into a corner before you have to slow down, so that you can
negotiate corners faster than with calipers.

I daresay that hydraulic discs will jam a wheel still with less finger
pressure than any caliper, but so what -- when you have a tiny rubber
patch, what advantage does a more powerful "squeeze" make?

Note that I'm not figuring carbon fiber rims into the equation here; i
daresay that, since calipers work less well on cf rims than on aluminum
ones, discs on road bikes with cf rims may well be useful in that regard.
But consider the question asked for bikes with aluminum rims.

So, is this bogus, or is it true?

I think discs have advantages over calipers that make them useful for
certain types of riding in certain conditions, but I am very skeptical of
this claim.

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[RBW] Re: (GIF) Don't know how this can be explained

[Garth]

  Yes to aerodynamics, and it's no trick.  This link was provided in the 
replies with the video and explains what it was about, with another vid 
showing him doing before. Also the ink to the Sky rider who does it, and he 
is a very good pro road racer.

https://www.adaptnetwork.com/sports/bike/cyclist-superman-position-speed-past-competitors/



On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 4:50:07 PM UTC-4, Ash A wrote:
>
>
>
> https://twitter.com/markzohar/status/876847118190878720
>
>
> Can aerodynamics make that much difference?!  Others are cranking like 
> machines, yet how can he pass them like he's powered by a jetpack.  Perhaps 
> it is a video trick.
>

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[RBW] (GIF) Don't know how this can be explained

[Ash A]

https://twitter.com/markzohar/status/876847118190878720


Can aerodynamics make that much difference?!  Others are cranking like 
machines, yet how can he pass them like he's powered by a jetpack.  Perhaps 
it is a video trick.

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[RBW] (gif) I don't know this is possible

[Ash A]

https://twitter.com/markzohar/status/876847118190878720


Can aerodynamics make that much difference?!  Others are cranking like 
machines, yet how can he pass them like he's powered by a jetpack.


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Re: [RBW] Re: How Heidi Got Her Name and/or How Does Riv Name a Bike?

[Kiley DeMond]

Ah, I forget that the geotagging doesn’t always show up. It was taken at Watson 
Lake in Prescott, AZ, about two miles from my house.

On Jul 2, 2017, 11:24 AM -0700, Deacon Patrick , wrote:
> Gorgeous bike and terrain! I second Drew's question: Where?
>
> My Hunqapillar is named Shadowfax, for Gandalf's horse, from whom no rider 
> falls off once he agrees to carry you. Seemed appropriate, given I ride with 
> constant vertigo in duo axes.
>
> My Quickbeam is named A’ Ghaoth Airgead, Gaelic for Silver Wind.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 9:02:04 AM UTC-6, Kiley DeMond wrote:
> > After a relationship with someone who named his cars, I started naming my 
> > bikes. My Dutch bike was named "Matilda", my Terry, "Angela", and I named 
> > my Cheviot, "Heidi". As it turns out, my logic to arrive at that name was 
> > flawed.
> >
> > I thought 'Cheviot' was goat-related; great at hills, the go anywhere bike. 
> > The bike itself lives up to that billing, at least for me. It's a mixte 
> > frame bike, so it's a female in my mind, and the girl I associated with 
> > climbing hills was Heidi. (Although, now that I think of it, she was 
> > carried up a lot of those hills; hmmm, not very auspicious.)
> >
> > When I finally looked closely at the bike, and saw a sheep in the decals, I 
> > was puzzled. Chevre = goat in French. Okay, so that was a leap. Turns out 
> > Cheviot is a type of sheep. Gee, that's a grazer. How did Riv come up with 
> > that name? If the bike was masculine, it might be named Ferdinand, as at 
> > least that is a grazer.
> >
> > I think the lesson is to return to my childhood method of naming things. 
> > Hamster was 'Hammy'. Rabbit was 'Bunny Boo', cat was 'Minou' (kitty in 
> > french). So, I think Heidi shall be rechristened "Bikey". Or "Bika". Or 
> > maybe the whole naming thing has run its course. It's not like she comes 
> > when she is called. And I no longer have multiple bikes so it is not as if 
> > there is confusion when I simply refer to "my bike".
> >
> > Happy trails.
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[RBW] Re: How Heidi Got Her Name and/or How Does Riv Name a Bike?

[Deacon Patrick]

Gorgeous bike and terrain! I second Drew's question: Where?

My Hunqapillar is named Shadowfax, for Gandalf's horse, from whom no rider 
falls off once he agrees to carry you. Seemed appropriate, given I ride 
with constant vertigo in duo axes.

My Quickbeam is named A’ Ghaoth Airgead, Gaelic for Silver Wind.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 9:02:04 AM UTC-6, Kiley DeMond wrote:
>
> After a relationship with someone who named his cars, I started naming my 
> bikes. My Dutch bike was named "Matilda", my Terry, "Angela", and I named 
> my Cheviot, "Heidi". As it turns out, my logic to arrive at that name was 
> flawed. 
>
> I thought 'Cheviot' was goat-related; great at hills, the go anywhere 
> bike. The bike itself lives up to that billing, at least for me. It's a 
> mixte frame bike, so it's a female in my mind, and the girl I associated 
> with climbing hills was Heidi. (Although, now that I think of it, she was 
> carried up a lot of those hills; hmmm, not very auspicious.) 
>
> When I finally looked closely at the bike, and saw a sheep in the decals, 
> I was puzzled. Chevre = goat in French. Okay, so that was a leap. Turns out 
> Cheviot is a type of sheep. Gee, that's a grazer. How did Riv come up with 
> that name? If the bike was masculine, it might be named Ferdinand, as at 
> least that is a grazer. 
>
> I think the lesson is to return to my childhood method of naming things. 
> Hamster was 'Hammy'. Rabbit was 'Bunny Boo', cat was 'Minou' (kitty in 
> french). So, I think Heidi shall be rechristened "Bikey". Or "Bika". Or 
> maybe the whole naming thing has run its course. It's not like she comes 
> when she is called. And I no longer have multiple bikes so it is not as if 
> there is confusion when I simply refer to "my bike". 
>
> Happy trails.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks Flyer pre-aged tan and MKS Lambda pedals

[Ash A]

Sale pending..



On Saturday, 1 July 2017 22:58:07 UTC-7, Ash A wrote:
>
>
> Both items are relatively new (150-ish miles) 
>
> Brooks Flyer pre-aged tan (with original packaging, tool and proofide) - 
> $75 
> MKS Lambda - $25
>
> Price includes shipping for lower 48.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: How Heidi Got Her Name and/or How Does Riv Name a Bike?

[drew]

That background looks otherworldly. Where are you?

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[RBW] Tweet by BikeRadar

[Bill Lindsay]

Tie dye cotton handlebar tape!  That's really really cool

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[RBW] Re: How Heidi Got Her Name and/or How Does Riv Name a Bike?

[Glen]

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 9:02:04 AM UTC-6, Kiley DeMond wrote:
>
> Gee, that's a grazer. How did Riv come up with that name? If the bike was 
> masculine, it might be named Ferdinand, as at least that is a grazer. 
>
>
Not the first example of Grant naming bikes after sheep - [image: No 
automatic alt text available.]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambouillet_sheep 
 

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[RBW] FS Paul Racers / Sugino XD2s / Rich-built wheels / BG RnRs / etc

[Stephen D]

1) Sugino XD2 170mm crank-arm length. 46/36/24 - teeth have some wear on 
large and middle chainring. $70 shipped. Pictures at: 
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/hjhxss88wqmuiit/AABdTG3qAIkG_TtILycQ3gc1a

2) Sugino XD2 172.5mm crank-arm length. 46/38/24 - large and middle rings 
are new (had them in a parts bin and put them on to use the crank briefly). 
$70 
shipped. https://www.dropbox.com/sc/71bb2khb2amwjuq/AAAppwzeMtEypK5EVcNSrFr3a

3) Paul Racer set #1 - center mount recessed. Straddle cable on one brake 
missing crimp ending but cable not unwinding. $160 
shipped https://www.dropbox.com/sc/tme32rmirw2zmnu/AACzHjAdYOf0vmKQQ5_gBtdTa

4) Paul Racer set #2 - center mount recessed. $160 shipped. 
 https://www.dropbox.com/sc/e4qbx0bmz16zpkb/AAA0gwPhBsufsPJE0BSH_8fba

The photo album for the rest of the items 
is: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/jq191qxpj0awh4f/AACHqEfxOsOp4MTWqRFJWvNza

5) Nitto S65 Seatpost - $40 shipped

6) Selle Anatomica T Series saddle - very little use, but leather appears 
wrinkled - $50 shipped.

7) Nitto HiRiser 25.4, 1 1/8" threadless stem, bought from Riv - $30 shipped

8) Set of Bruce Gordon 700c Rock'n'Road tires - used less than 10 miles - 
$75 shipped

9) 700c wheelset - Rich-built. Son28 front hub / Shimano Deore LX rear hub. 
32 Spokes. Velocity Synergy rims - $375 shipped.

10) 650b rear wheel - Rich-built. White Industries Eric's Eccentric ENO 
hub. 32 Spokes. Velocity Atlas Polished rim - $175 shipped 

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[RBW] Re: In praise of Spur-cycles bells

[Kiley DeMond]

I bought it. Reasons: I love steel and the natural steel is beeyoutiful. 
The 'ding' doesn't make me cringe. They really did research its frequency 
and the pitch is pleasant as a bell can be. It's made in USA. I justified 
it when I returned something to the LBS in Ann Arbor and had an 
almost-as-much-as-it-cost credit. 

On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 6:08:24 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Crane bells are super cool and very classy.  It's great they are made in 
> Japan, and I love them.  
>
> BUT
>
> Spur Cycle bells are by far the nicest bike bell I've ever seen.  I bought 
> one from Ocean Air Cycles, because Rob Perks is the man, and I was blown 
> away at how nice this bell in.  It's loud and pure and never makes a peep 
> unless you want it to.  I just picked up a second one from a tiny Berkeley 
> Bike Boutique, just because they had it on the shelf, and I like buying 
> local.  Spur Cycle bells are MUSA and they kick butt.  $50 for a bell may 
> seem perverse to frugal riders, but when you can get the very best anything 
> for $50, that's something.  
>
> https://www.spurcycle.com/
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] WTB Used Albastache & Dirt Drop Stem plus question

[Jonathan D.]

I am continuing to mess with my bike so. I have a shorter bike and I was 
thinking of running the new Albastache bars on it. I have moustache bars (happy 
to trade) and like the more relaxed idea of the updates. I have albatross bars 
on my Joe but realize it peobably wouldn't work as well on a shorter top tube 
road bike and I like the idea of a more aggressive ride. This is for a Romulus 
that is on the small side for me but got from a friend. 

Also has anyone run the albastache/moustache bars with STI shifters?  I would 
be curious about your experience and would like to purchase a used 3x9 shifter 
as well at some point. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Quickbeam original crankset

[Birdman]

Thanks!

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[RBW] Tweet by BikeRadar

[Eric Norris]

Perhaps of interest to some on this list ...

BikeRadar (‪@bikeradar‬)
7/2/17, 4:54 AM
Make your cockpit a little more psychedelic with some sweet, wavey-garm-like, 
tie-dyed bar tape. Funky. buff.ly/2udllKK pic.twitter.com/2paa91Qz1e


Eric N
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Quickbeam original crankset

[Deacon Patrick]

You can buy the original from Rivendell. It's Surgino's triple, set up 
guard/40/32. You're almost there here, just ask them to replace the small 
ring with a 
32: 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/cranks-bbs/products/sugino-xd2-wide-low-double-crank-40t-x-26t

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 8:51:32 PM UTC-6, Birdman wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> Does anyone have a stock Quickbeam crankset in good-to-excellent condition 
> lying around?  Looking for 175mm. I'm considering setting up my 'Beam to 
> grock Grant's original vision.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Isaac
>

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