[RBW] Re: OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

Don't be silly. No reputable hub manufacturer is going to put the spoke holes in the hub too close together. The minimum diameter of a 48 hole hub flange is larger than the minimum diameter of a 32 hole hub flange in order to maintain the proper minimum spacing between the spoke holes. Have you

[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Cheviot Complete (Nitto, Sugino, Paul, Brooks, +Dynamo Lights)

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa question

Orc. What rack is that and how much weight does it supper? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa question

In this part of the country, he would probably be correct. :( One can always dream. On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 9:12:11 PM UTC-5, Carla Waugh wrote: > > Chris that's a great idea I'm not sure he thinks enough people would buy > Rivendells. It would be nice to see one in person before

[RBW] Re: Rambling Interview with Grant: Trail, Women's bikes, Low gearing, Current Reading, Etc

There may be a lot of different ways, but I've owned/ridden a lot of bikes, including 5 or 6 Rivendells, and there's something different/special about Riv handling. Smooth, stable, yet still quick to turn..I don't know how Grant does it, but it works. -- You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Bars: Drop or Moustache?

Nice Atlantis and it looks uber comfortable!  Clay On Thursday, July 27, 2017 11:30 AM, ADH wrote: I've been looking at the original moustache bars because you can find them at a few places for under $60. Here's an added consideration for me. I'm in my 60s and I'm

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa question

Chris that's a great idea I'm not sure he thinks enough people would buy Rivendells. It would be nice to see one in person before ordering. Although my Sam is exactly what I thought it would be. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Bars: Drop or Moustache?

Holy crap that's a nice build! Yes, you're at your shortening limit stem-wise so no Moustache for you, but you have plenty of room for Albatross and such-as if you ever want to try it. I'm about your size and tend to "buy big" as well: I like big, roomy frames that can take a pullback bar

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa question

Orc, every time I see a mountain mixte like that I want one a little more. Great looking bike. I'd like to know the difference between that and the Clem L. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

Two people recommended a higher spoke count. I'll respectfully disagree with that advice. One might be in better shape going to a higher spoke count if they are breaking spokes. That failed hub flange broke between two spoke holes. If you go to a higher spoke count, that little chunk of

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa question

On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 2:58:48 PM UTC-7, Carla Waugh wrote: > > My brother in law just received his beautiful new Appaloosa and he really > loves it. He will make bar and stem changes possibly. I just wondered what > are the little nuts/screws are on top of the fork crown? Maybe three

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa question

Maybe you all can convince Tobin at Buchanan's to become a Riv dealer. :) On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:58:48 PM UTC-5, Carla Waugh wrote: > > My brother in law just received his beautiful new Appaloosa and he really > loves it. He will make bar and stem changes possibly. I just

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa question

you can use a rear rack on the front. or just more mounting points for mark's rack et al. On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 2:58:48 PM UTC-7, Carla Waugh wrote: > > My brother in law just received his beautiful new Appaloosa and he really > loves it. He will make bar and stem changes possibly. I

[RBW] Re: OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

I would press White a little more but maybe a higher spoke count is the way to go Of course I'm assuming you sent White the photo and told them how long you had the wheel and what kind of load you're carrying as you told us...and note that kiddies in trailers tend to get heavier...I hauled my

Re: [RBW] Appaloosa question

some racks can attach there. There was a picture of rack mounted using them on the Riv site awhile ago. On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 5:58 PM Carla Waugh wrote: > My brother in law just received his beautiful new Appaloosa and he really > loves it. He will make bar and stem

[RBW] Appaloosa question

My brother in law just received his beautiful new Appaloosa and he really loves it. He will make bar and stem changes possibly. I just wondered what are the little nuts/screws are on top of the fork crown? Maybe three people in Norman Ok. now with Rivendell's and I love my Sam. -- You

[RBW] OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

I would go to 40 or 48 spokes for the next wheel. Why fool around trying to save a few grams on spokes. Replacing a wheel on tour is not worth it. Kind of like only carrying one water bottle to save weight in my mind. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] FS: Rivendell Road, 52cm, $1850

Time to go to a new home: I like to look at it, since 2014 I think I rode it twice. From 2008 to 2013, it was not even built up, just art in my computer room. Of course you want pics, here https://www.flickr.com/photos/57391630@N02/albums/72157684122009814 Ordered in 2001, built, by Joe

[RBW] FS: Schmidt SON28 Dyad 700C wheel - NEW - $350 shipped

Originally for a project that never will come to be: - Schmidt NEW SON28 32h Silver non-disc hub professionally built into a silver Velocity Dyad 700C rim. - DT Swiss Competition DB spokes, brass nipples. Straight, true, strong. Brand new. Rim strip included. PayPal (F) preferred. Please

[RBW] Re: FS: 1981 Miyata 1000, 21", F/F/HS

Sold. Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

Hey John. If you are the original owner of the hub AND that was the first time it was built up AND there was nothing funky about the build, I would press for more from White. It is a premium MUSA product and that shouldn't have happened. Flange breakage is normally from inappropriate lacing

[RBW] Re: SimpleOne - amazing web special deal!

...and the link to a web special complete, used 60cm Simple one for $1200 is here: https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-framesets-and-bicycles/products/60cm-simpleone-complete-bike-used-web-special Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 1:07:34 PM UTC-7, Ash [who

[RBW] Re: OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

Who did you buy the hub from? If you bought it new from a retailer, have you recruited that retailer to go to bat for you? That's part of why you pay retail for things, so your retailer will look after you. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 9:14:29 AM UTC-7, John

[RBW] SimpleOne - amazing web special deal!

Wish I was taller! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

John: Yea, that sounds like you need to pester them a bit more. To your question, I have a Shimano XTR hub laced to a Mavic A719 rim on my Atlantis for over 10 years & maybe 50k miles. I just grease the bearings & lube the freehub every couple of years. When I did a lot of touring the

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Bars: Drop or Moustache?

Dang, that's a gorgeous bike with some awesome details like the fender spacers. Well done! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

White's response to you doesn't sound like this . https://wheelworks.co.nz/why-we-choose-to-sell-white-industries/ I would expect the same for you or anyone else, and I would not not stop until they replace it. Hub flanges ought not break these days. I would *call them*, email is too

[RBW] Re: WTB: Used 700c and 26 fat (non-knobby) tires and long reach caliper/centerpull brakes

Of course beyond certain thickness fat tires would become an unpleasant 'drag'. My experience is limited to 700x28, 700x32, 650x42 and 650x47. In my style of riding and speeds (~12 MPH average), there is some increased effort with 47mm, but it is not that much. Ride becomes more pleasant,

[RBW] Re: Rambling Interview with Grant: Trail, Women's bikes, Low gearing, Current Reading, Etc

I would bet he is talking about chainstay length, or possibly it's relationship to overall wheelbase along with front center. Chainstay length is nearly as controversial with some people as trail. Me, I think a good bike is a good bike. Some have more or less of one parameter or another, but

[RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

That part really caught my attention. It lends credence to the notion that trail can't be talked about in isolation, but is just one element of the complete design. Given Grant's refusal to get into the scrum of trail discussions, we'll all just have to keep guessing what the magic parameter

[RBW] Re: Source for 8 speed shifters?

Ian, Garth, & Hugh: Thanks for the input. That was what I expected but I've been surprised before by listers knowing obscure parts sources. That was creative how Steve slipped a bit of bike porn into an otherwise mundane thread. Beautiful ride. dougP On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at

Re: [RBW] Re: OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

Interesting. Thanks for the info. P.S. I had a high flange Campy hub (rear) fail in the same way about 30K from the end of a 200Km brevet. I gingerly finished the ride on the broken hub. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > On Jul 27, 2017, at 11:09 AM,

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Bars: Drop or Moustache?

FWIW: Your bars look like Noodles. I replaced my 46 cm Noodles with 42s, then those with 42 cm Maes Parallel clones from Velo Orange. Noodles are nice, but man! The Parallels are just dandy! 42s on the "road bike for dirt. I like 38s or so on my Riv Roads. I ride 57s to 60s c-c.) Parallels must

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Bars: Drop or Moustache?

I have to say that your Atlantis is beautiful; certainly, those are the nicest fender spacers I've seen! Back to the M bar on my Hon Solo: I ride most with my hands in or at the curves, switching for relief to the hoods; rarely at the ends. On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 12:29 PM, ADH

[RBW] Re: I made an Instagram for stuff I'm selling.

Hi Adam, not sure if you got my PM. I want those shifters please.. On Thursday, 27 July 2017 08:49:52 UTC-7, adam leibow wrote: > > glad you guys like this idea. i like the collective hashtag idea. > #650rivbob ? > > On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:52:13 AM UTC-7, adam leibow wrote: >> >> I

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Bars: Drop or Moustache?

I've been looking at the original moustache bars because you can find them at a few places for under $60. Here's an added consideration for me. I'm in my 60s and I'm fairly short... 5' 6.5" (down from about 5' 8"). I ride a skinny tire 54.5 cm Atlantis which is now as big a frame as I can

Re: [RBW] Re: OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

Erl: The Erie Canal was a great route for a family tour, and it helped that it was so well-supported. My four year old always had another activity to look forward to - museums, boat rides, or at least a rest stop with copious snacks - so there was suprisingly little grumpiness! Definitely

Re: [RBW] Re: OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

John: What are those black things around the hub? --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > On Jul 27, 2017, at 10:45 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Oh, for reference, my engine is 200#, my bikepacking load is 280 including > water and

Re: [RBW] WTT: On One Midge 25.4 for 31.8 or Soma Junebug 31.8 Silver

I’ll check when I get home tomorrow. I would ask my wife to check, but all handlebars look the same to her! --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > On Jul 27, 2017, at 10:40 AM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote: >

[RBW] Re: OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

Oh, for reference, my engine is 200#, my bikepacking load is 280 including water and food and bike and engine. With abandon Patrick On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 11:43:20 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > I don't know hubs, but that would seem defective. Worth sending that photo > to White.

[RBW] Re: OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

I don't know hubs, but that would seem defective. Worth sending that photo to White. I just use the Shimano X whatever and Rich build mine (after I thrashed my factory built rear I'll only go handbuilt with Rich). Not that that helps your hub question much. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday,

Re: [RBW] WTT: On One Midge 25.4 for 31.8 or Soma Junebug 31.8 Silver

Eric, Nothing yet. Let me know! Thanks, Brad On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 9:27:23 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote: > > I think I have one, but I won’t be home until Friday to confirm. If you > haven’t found one by then, let me know and I will look. > > --Eric N > www.CampyOnly.com >

[RBW] OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

John, Bummer about the wheel. The family tour sounds fun. I look forward to reading more about the trip. Erie Canal is on our family list to tour. Best wishes, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Bars: Drop or Moustache?

When you say moustache, do you mean original moustache, or new moustache (Albastache)? Either way, I echo most others in saying a shorter stem is in order. Originals are narrower and more aggressive, so an even shorter stem may be in order. I love my new moustache, but I shifted from the

Re: [RBW] Source for 8 speed shifters?

I was thinking the same. Gorgeous bike! I like how he worked it in on a post about shifters. Doug, I third Ian and Garth's logic. ~hugh On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 3:40:39 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: > > when I see a bike like that, I'm so glad it's not in my frame size - > beauty, Steve. >

[RBW] Re: I made an Instagram for stuff I'm selling.

Good idea. #650brivbob works, to the point and minimal letters & numbers. ~hugh On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:52:13 AM UTC-7, adam leibow wrote: > > I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner, because I use instagram a > lot, and sell alotta bike stuff. I post across several

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Bars: Drop or Moustache?

My problem with Moustache bars is the brake levers. You can only run them flat-ish, in line with the bars, which places the levers too high. For me, I found them to be too unergonomic and uncomfortable. Clay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

Kidding, of course I took it off the bike immediately! After a 52 mile day I noticed a loose spoke on my Sam Hillborne, but soon discovered that tightening it wasn't going to do much:

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

Bill L had an idea -- front center; this is another guess. Perhaps it's both. All I know is that they've discovered a magic elixer of some sort. And let the meanies bite. Their refutation is in the ride quality. On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Peter Turskovitch wrote:

Re: [RBW] Atlantis Bars: Drop or Moustache?

Rivendell used always to counsel using a shorter stem and higher position for Mustache bars compared to drops. Me, I found Mustaches to be more comfortable is a bit stretched out. I recently added a 2" extension to the bar "mast" of my Hon Solo, so that the M bar is about the same height but 2"

[RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

Grant, from the interview: "Also, there’s another steering/bike handling parameter that probably matters more, although it’s far less well-known than trail is. Everybody at Rivendell knows what it is, we have a name for it, and all of our bikes are designed with it in mind. That’s true whether

[RBW] Re: I made an Instagram for stuff I'm selling.

glad you guys like this idea. i like the collective hashtag idea. #650rivbob ? On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:52:13 AM UTC-7, adam leibow wrote: > > I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner, because I use instagram a > lot, and sell alotta bike stuff. I post across several forums/google

[RBW] Atlantis Bars: Drop or Moustache?

I ride with drop bars on most of my bikes. If I was going to give Moustache bars another try, I would probably use them on my Hillborne. My Hillborne has a Nitto Pearl 11cmstem and Noodle handlebars. If I switched that bike to Moustache bars I would switch out the stem as well to a 9cm

[RBW] Atlantis Bars: Drop or Moustache?

I set up my Joe with moustache bars for a while. I really liked them, but the hoods position on a drop bar pushes me a little further forward, which I like. Certainly I could have managed this with a 130 stem on the moustache, but I also find that when the bars are an inch above the seat, the

[RBW] Atlantis Bars: Drop or Moustache?

I move my hands around constantly. So "both." It took me a LONG time to dial in moustache bars, finding the right stem, but it sounds like you'd be a good candidate if you can make 'em work. The main thing i'd say is not to shy away from that 'stretched out' position - or at least don't

[RBW] Atlantis Bars: Drop or Moustache?

I have been riding my Atlantis with drop bars since I bought it almost 10 years ago. I ride with my hands either up against the brake hoods or on the flat near the stem when I want to be more upright and almost never drop down any more. I was all set to switch to a moustache bar when I realized

[RBW] Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

Great interview! Thank you for posting it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [RBW] Source for 8 speed shifters?

Thanks! On 07/27/2017 06:40 AM, Ron Mc wrote: when I see a bike like that, I'm so glad it's not in my frame size - beauty, Steve. On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 5:31:18 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: Yes, but a complete set is only around $60 so no big deal. I recently bought a

Re: [RBW] Source for 8 speed shifters?

when I see a bike like that, I'm so glad it's not in my frame size - beauty, Steve. On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 5:31:18 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > Yes, but a complete set is only around $60 so no big deal. I recently > bought a set while building up my 1963 Jack Taylor Sports. >

Re: [RBW] Source for 8 speed shifters?

Yes, but a complete set is only around $60 so no big deal. I recently bought a set while building up my 1963 Jack Taylor Sports. On 07/26/2017 11:47 PM, dougP wrote: I have 8 speed Ultegra levers, originally bar ends, mounted on Paul's thumbie mounts. The index mechanism on the RH lever is

[RBW] Source for 8 speed shifters?

No single source I know of as of today, but speaking of chainreaction, you may as well just get the whole pair of 8 sp Ultegra bar ends from them. I bet that pair price is about what you'd pay in the US for a single anyway even if they were for sale. If you really like them get more than one