[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

I've had the old Suntour Power Ratchet thumbies and they're fabulous. I think they would be great as inside-the-bar shifters like Riv specs on Clems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

Bear in mind these are prototypes only, probably to check all the fiddly details before going into production. I would expect the finish to be up to the usual Rivendell standards & present well on a nice bike. As to the aesthetic, well, if you liked the originals (which I do), these will look

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

Marc said: "the shape of the prototype is more suitable to bar end and thumby duties, and could look a little awkward and stubby and maybe slightly distracting on a down tube" I agree that based just on aesthetics, they'd be weird on the downtube. I'm going to pre-emptively DISAPPROVE of

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

[image: image] While it's kinda cool to have shifters that can function in several different positions on the bike, there will inevitably be compromises. With that ergonomic curve, I would tend to agree that the shape of the prototype is more suitable to bar end and thumby duties, and could

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

It's a project - as I have already stated - that has had a long gestation period, some of it painful for the person behind it. I happen to think this is neither the time nor place to declare it YUCK. If you want to suggest improvements to the design, I presume "I wish the barrel were bigger"

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

Did you wake up on the wrong side of the shifter today? Relax man. It’s a little piece of metal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

So you want a Silver shifter that you like the looks of to have a bigger barrel like the Dia-Compe you don't like the looks of, which had nothing to do with the new shifter which is "yuck." No, I don't get it. Buy a shifter you like instead of trashing one that isn't even in final form yet.

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

I didn't stifle your opinion, I objected to it. It's stupid. Have a nice day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

In order to shift my chain to the largest cog of a 10 Speed cassette using a Silver shifter, I need to move the lever almost parallel to the down tube. Enlarging the barrel, like the VO version of the DiaCompe shifter, requires less travel of the lever. I happen to like the look of the Silver

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

I thought this was a forum where we are free to express and share our opinions of Riv products in a respectful and open manner. Is there some rule that I haven’t read requiring only positive reviews? I buy Riv products that I like; quite a lot of them actually. I don’t buy their products

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

On 12/04/2017 08:58 PM, John Hawrylak wrote: Is there an issue with the current Silver Shifters with cable pull??  I really don't know, but would appreciate an education.  I read the rBW description of currnet shifters and see only an issue with cog/derailleur movement There is for

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

Silvers work fine with 9-speed, and 10 would be the same throw. They're probably not great for 11, but I doubt there's any perceptible market for a friction 11-speed shifter. This criticism about barrel size doesn't make a lick of sense to me. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

Is there an issue with the current Silver Shifters with cable pull?? I really don't know, but would appreciate an education. I read the rBW description of currnet shifters and see only an issue with cog/derailleur movement John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 9:12:54 PM

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

If someone wants to express their dislike or critique of a product I think we should welcome it. Is this a discussion or cheerleading? I think if everyone can be polite and respectful then their should be enough room here for everyone’s opionions. I'm AM going with "two sides to a story" and

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

I bet it will work really well, because Silvers do and Riv cares, duh... Plus, prototypes are prototypes. Design is iterative. I might be talking out of my ass here, but I was also kinda thinking the look of these shifters—besides taking a note from the old Suntours—could be part of an

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

But I'm not willing to play Mr. High Road. This thread is about the fabulous news that the new shifter project is back on - its earlier demise seemed quite depressing for Grant, a person I know and like - and I don't see the point in chiming in about how "yucky" it is. So no, I'm not going with

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

It's just levers pulling cable. We all need to keep a bit of perspective. dougP On Monday, December 4, 2017 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-8, Garth wrote: > > Sheesh, we're all big boys and girls here, so someone expresses a "yucky" > view of the shifters that are not even in production and no spec known,

[RBW] Re: Bartubes discontinued

I wouldn't worry about the Velcro. I've taken these bags on and off many many times with no issues. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Univega

650b conversion? Get some Marathons on there. On Monday, December 4, 2017 at 5:40:38 PM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > That's a sweet looking mixte, Doug. I would say certainly worth a hundred > bucks, but out of season why not offer 70--they probably just want it out > the door. Very likely

[RBW] Up Your Vis Game

I just drove down a flat road with bike lanes at dusk, 10 min. after sunset. Many cyclist ride this road after work around 5:30. Bright front and rear light are gradually becoming the norm on this road. Flashing or not, I can see a bright tail light from 1/2 mile or more. Today a couple of

[RBW] FS: Nitto Choco-Moose bar/stem, $120

Lightly used Nitto Choco-Moose bar for $120 (link to Riv description ) > > > > > > > *This is our newest bar, with its most recent ancestor the epoch-making > Albatross handlebar, but with a few tweaks that

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

Sheesh, we're all big boys and girls here, so someone expresses a "yucky" view of the shifters that are not even in production and no spec known, it's just an initial honest opinion, and you know what they say about opinions ... we all got one. So what ! Hey, we all have our own ideas

[RBW] Re: Pics of Jones SG 2.5 on Appaloosa

Looking forward to the result! On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 5:53:57 PM UTC-8, Ash [who works to bike] wrote: > > Ty, bar-tape is inevitable. Our daytime temp is still in 60s. As soon as > it dips, bar tap will appear automatically > > On Wednesday, 29 November 2017 13:10:41 UTC-5, Ty

[RBW] Re: Univega

That's a sweet looking mixte, Doug. I would say certainly worth a hundred bucks, but out of season why not offer 70--they probably just want it out the door. Very likely built by Miyata. Lugged, nice red paint, double eyelets in back, and the much-preferred middle seat stay mounted rear brake.

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

If you need more cable pull it has already been innovated: https://velo-orange.com/collections/shifters/products/dia-compe-ene-11s-dt-shifters I figure that a bigger barrel will just make the shifter even more sensitive to small movement, though. I've had good luck with Silver V1s and Simplex

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

I think the point Joe is making is that many of us have been watching this project with interest and maybe some anticipation. Some of us are fond of Rivendell Bicycle Works and would like to see them succeed. When news comes out that a previously shelved project is rising from the dead,

[RBW] Re: FS: 700c Wheelset and Dyno, Sugino crank, Schwalbe, Cazadero

here is whats left *Velocity dyad/XT hub /shimano 9sp cassette 700c, 36h wheelset- *225$ shipped *Sugino xd2 triple. 170mm arms. Very good condition *-70$ shipped *WTB nano 29x2.1 tire set. only 50ish miles on them.* 50$ shipped -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Bartubes discontinued

This was one the reasons I hesitated. The other being I'd wear out the Velcro. I was thinking of also getting the short leather straps, putting them thru the bag loops and then on the saddle loops. In the end, I purchased a Carradice roll bag in black to blend in with my black saddle and

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

'cause then I'd be posting to another Google group, right? On Monday, December 4, 2017 at 3:41:39 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Why not buy a different shifter you don't think is yucky? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] WTB: MTB long 26.8 seatpost, black (Thomson, Deore XT, etc)

Gotta hate bike part sizing shenanigans - how can I possibly *NOT* already have a 26.8 post in every conceivable length? Well, I don't. I'm looking for a nice / but used is okay, longer *BLACK* seatpost - I'd go for a setback Thomson, or I guess Deore XT was probably the answer BITD. Anyone

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

Why not buy a different shifter you don't think is yucky? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Bump: FS: Bleriot 55cm

I have not received much interest in this bike so I'll try lowering the price again. I have it in my local Craigslist for $1,300. How about $1,200 and split the shipping? Or make me an offer and I'll consider it. I'd rather not have to part it out or worse, go to eBay! Thanks, Dan in

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

IME these work well with up to 10speed in the cable pull department, but I haven't tried 11sp. I've used them with multiple bikes, derailers, and cassettes/chains including 8, 9, and 10s, and combinations that don't technically match, like a 9s rear derailer with 10s cassette or vice versa.

[RBW] Re: FS: 700c Wheelset and Dyno, Sugino crank, Schwalbe, Cazadero

Hi Drew, PM sent on the Marathon Supremes. Thanks! Bob L. Galesburg, IL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Univega

The link is to a very small Univega mixte. The title misleadingly calls the bike a 'hybrid', which it is not. Whether or not it's worth it depends on whether it'll fit the rider in question and what the rider in question wants to do with it. Who's going to ride it? How are they going to ride

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

I said it before and I'll say it again. As DT shifters, these look as bad as the old Silver shifters used as thumbies. Yuck. Why not do something innovative and make the barrel on the right shifter larger to pull more cable/shift more than 8 speeds easily? On Sunday, December 3, 2017 at

[RBW] Re: Wrapping Albastache Bars

Mark Abele's videos make everything he does look so effortless! They sure are a pleasure to watch (and listen to). Probably not too many takes either On Monday, December 4, 2017 at 1:18:38 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > It's like watching an artist, isn't it? He's ridiculous! -- You

[RBW] FS Gilles Berthoud Aspin brown

almost brand new aspin saddle. installed the saddle and rode it around the block before i put it back on the shelf along with my parts bin. asking $160 shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: FS: 700c Wheelset and Dyno, Sugino crank, Schwalbe, Cazadero

Bump and price reductions also adding wtb nanos *Velocity dyad/XT hub /shimano 9sp cassette 700c, 36h wheelset- *225$ shipped *Sugino xd2 triple. 170mm arms. Very good condition *-70$ shipped *Schwalbe marathon supreme 700x50 tire set. A little dirty but not used much-45*$ shipped *Soma

[RBW] Re: Bartubes discontinued

I bought a blue one and it looks amazing, the construction feels sturdy, and it fits my entire work outfit, meaning some days it's all I need for my commute to work. Lives between my hunqapillar and cheviot. On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 2:13:59 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Apparently

Re: [RBW] Re: Up Your Vis Game

As someone who is sensitive to flashing lights the latest “safety” trend of any and all workers (regardless of if they are working or not) having multiple, intense, strobing LED lights is horrible. That’s GOT to be a target fixation issue, plus the whole “we have to be more visible to be

[RBW] Re: Univega

i think it depends on your intent. it probably wont appreciate much in value, or be worth putting too much work into it. But if its just for getting around, 90$ is hard to beat. Univega had some nice mixtes with the single top tube that splits to two at the chainstays. I think that style looks

[RBW] Re: Wrapping Albastache Bars

It's like watching an artist, isn't it? He's ridiculous! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Pics of Jones SG 2.5 on Appaloosa

That's indeed a slick color combination! I love the details. On Wednesday, 29 November 2017 17:56:51 UTC-8, Jay Connolly wrote: > > > > I think the Jones Bar

[RBW] Re: Wrapping Albastache Bars

OMG! Wish I had watched this video couple of years ago. Esp for the cool twain wrapping trick. I always messed up that part pretty bad and attempted to redo every couple of weeks :) On Sunday, 3 December 2017 18:04:34 UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Here ya go. Excellent soundtrack, too. > >

[RBW] Re: FS: Platrack & Slickersack Combo $240

Sold On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 8:20:41 PM UTC-8, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > > Link doesn’t work... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] WTT/FS: My 12cm/25.4mm Tallux Stem for your 13cm/25.4mm Tallux Stem.

Looking for a straight swap of a Nitto Tallux stem, or sell mine to order one from Riv. Converting an older mtb to albatross bars and could use the extra cm of reach. I have: Nitto Tallux Stem, 12cm, 25.4mm I need: Nitto Tallux Stem, 13cm, 25.4mm If a straight trade doesn't happen, I'd sell

[RBW] Re: Ode to LCG

Pithy words of wisdom Patrick. The accompanying photos are inspiring. Thanks, Marc On Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 5:09:16 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Terrain, leg strength, and gear options need not stop us! In light of all > the one gear conversations, here is a celebration of LCG. > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Up Your Vis Game

Daniel: I’m not sure I agree that flashing lights are such a bad idea, but I *do* agree that the super-bright lights that the cycling industry has been rolling out in recent years can be a hazard. However, in my experience, it’s not a distant, super-bright taillight that causes problems, but

[RBW] Univega

Sure, but see if you can talk'em down to $75 or $80. Will probably need new tires, tubes,rim strips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Univega

I’m thinking of buying this local off of Craigslist. Worth it? https://athensga.craigslist.org/bik/d/univega-hybrid/6355043046.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 1995 58cm Rivendell AllRounder $2000

Braden, it is 58cm c-c. Best, Joe On Dec 4, 2017 8:59 AM, "bdavis999" wrote: Hi Joe, what length is the top tube? Regards, Braden On Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 10:43:29 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote: > > In this thread a couple months ago, Matt was looking for a 59 AR: >

[RBW] FS Aussie Merino Wool Longsleeve Crewneck - Black

Sold -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Wrapping Albastache Bars

I wanted the tape to continue to give me grip space closer to the stem. Although on a ride Saturday I rarely used that hand position. Thanks for the photo. On Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 9:38:39 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Yes, Albastache, New Moustache, Watchamacallit,

[RBW] Re: Supple tires and rim fit trouble

FWIW, I swore off using an SUN CR-18's after I ended up with 3 sets of wheels built with the defective (slightly too large) rims. Getting any tire on or off was chore. Roadside flats were a nightmare. I once had a Nexus 8 Speed internal hubbed whee/tire l pick up a staple, and go flat. I was

[RBW] Re: Supple tires and rim fit trouble

I've had the same problem. Mostly with the older rims like Mavic MA40's and their equivalents and Model 58's. Have pinched a couplafew tubes getting Bon Jon Passes 35's on. I don't remember having problems with CR-18's though. Craig in Tucson On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:32:24 AM

[RBW] Re: FS: 1995 58cm Rivendell AllRounder $2000

Hi Joe, what length is the top tube? Regards, Braden On Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 10:43:29 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote: > > In this thread a couple months ago, Matt was looking for a 59 AR: >

[RBW] Re: Up Your Vis Game

Reflectors/tape have limitations. Fog disrupts the whole thing. In my uniform days I had a couple of contact team mechanics overnight along a stretch of state highway in Louisiana have a really close call wearing hi-viz vests of almost entirely of 3M reflective material over their camouflage

[RBW] Re: Up Your Vis Game

Jan’s opinions about visibility make about as much sense to me as Grant’s notions about diet. Some nuggets of wisdom in both cases, with extreme conclusions drawn that I disagree with in the end. Jan dismissed reflective tire sidewalls as ineffective out of hand and thinks a single red dot,

[RBW] Re: Bartubes discontinued

I have one & use it frequently, my only complaint is the Velcro straps; although quick & easy, sometimes I need to switch to a bike with no good handlebar mounting position. The Velcro straps mean it can't be mounted easily to the back of my B-17s, so it doesn't get used as much as I'd like

[RBW] Re: Up Your Vis Game

Jan Hein’s blog post in 2014 on visibility has some counterintuitive points: https://janheine.wordpress.com/2014/04/12/when-more-visible-%E2%89%A0-safer-target-fixation/ Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Lessons in Singlespeeding

It’s kinda funny that when I first discovered Riv it was while I was in the process of “Rivifying” my old rigid MTB, which was my only bike at the time and no longer comfortable, but before I even knew what it really meant to Rivify an old frame. At the time they were clearing out the

Re: [RBW] Re: Front rack ID on this Atlantis?

Bin Chen- It's a Nitto rack, so it will be of the highest quality. It will carry WAY more than the conservative rating from Nitto. If your front panniers can hang on the middle rail of the 35F (and you can adjust the lower attachment point to hit the lower rail), then I think your front load

[RBW] Re: Lessons in Singlespeeding

After several configurations, I finally settled on 1x9 for my Sam, then went from bar end shifters to stem to DT (with a clamp on mount). I definitely shift less often with the DT than before. The difference between riding a derailleur bike in one gear and a SS, though, is how much more torque

[RBW] Re: Lessons in Singlespeeding

Lum, Your experience with DT is similar to how I happened upon the pleasures of ss riding. Combine a tall frame + low DT levers + laziness + an old 12 spd that effectively acted as a 5 speed: 40/52 double crank where I just stayed in the 40 + a worn 6th cog in the back. I ended up just