[RBW] New Bike Syndrome

And plan as you may, a Rivbike is so versatile that a given build is never “complete”. After a few months it sometimes goes like this: H...I might want that other front bag,... but then I need another rack that holds it lower over the tire so I can attach the rack directly to the fender

Re: [RBW] Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

I think in an old RReader Lon Haldeman said he used to train by using only one cog per week or something and then move the chain to the next hardest cog for a week and back-and-forth like that between a few cogs, IIRC. At Some point I think a person will need to start training to get any

[RBW] FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

Whats the tt ctoc and standover, Erl? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

Pretty pretty!! Rare bird!! Is that the guard building in Laurel? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Do you like your Berthoud stainless fenders?

I have Berthoud fenders on three bikes. I also have hammered Honjos on another bike. I prefer the Berthouds - I think they look nicer, and the struts are definitely superior to any others that I've seen. If you ride off a kerb, the Berthoud mudflap folds up out of the way without any damage.

[RBW] Did you lose your Silver Roadeo?

René, since nobody has said it yet, thank you for making the effort! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Do you like your Berthoud stainless fenders?

I would speculate that the honjo hammered pattern “dents” make the hammered version strong like pressed stiffener troughs do for sheet metal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: Lightest canti-Rivendell is?

What I'm saying is the custom canti-Riv we're discussing is probably running thinner tubing than the original Waterford frames. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Re: Lightest canti-Rivendell is?

Not sure what you’re trying to say, but I read that the early Rivendells with 753 tubing were not particularly light, as Grant had custom, stouter 753 tubing made. I actually also have a canti-753 Rivendell, and sometimes it feels as stiff as my Atlantis (not exactly the epitome of “classic”

[RBW] Re: Front rack for panniers and handlebar bag

Another vote for Nitto 27f, works flawlessly and is rock solid. On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 4:59:41 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote: > > Hey folks, > > I'm looking for recommendations for a front rack that will let me use > lowrider panniers AND a handlebar bag. I'm sure the Nitto Big Front Rack >

[RBW] Re: Fenderless Sam: Snoqualmie or Barlow Pass?

Patrick, wow, 30-35lbs! It will require a mind-bending change for me to go the low-pressure route, but I'm giving it a go. I've been reading up on Jan's research, as corroborated by others who do this in practice (including you and others in the bunch). Not going tubeless yet -- though

Re: [RBW] Re: Do you like your Berthoud stainless fenders?

Perhaps it's the work hardening -- though are those really hammered, or just pressed? -- that made my hammered Honjos more resistant to dents than the Berthoud stainless ones; at least, that's my recollection. On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 6:40 AM, ascpgh wrote: > I too have the

[RBW] Re: Did you lose your Silver Roadeo?

A city or area of the country where you found it would be helpful. Then we could potentially start asking around. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

Gorgeous, classy and with the coveted 'Rivendell' dt sticker... Someone (shorter than I) will be very happy with this bike!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: Did you lose your Silver Roadeo?

If you paid $100 for it then it's pretty much sure to be stolen. If you contact Riv with the serial number they can look up who the original owner is/was. If the original owner sold it you should still hopefully be able to find out who they sold it to. Shouldn't be too tough to track them down.

[RBW] FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

Beautiful bike Erl! Incredible deal for some lucky soul! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

Check the new geo for the BMC road plus. It's a disc frame that can run both 650B x 47 and 700c road wheels, I believe. Mike has brought the front end up. Stack for the largest size is something like 650, if memory serves. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Bay Area: 3rd Annual Escape from Super Bowl Weekend Campout

Oh, wish I could come up for this. Have a ball! Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

Mine came with a Bottom Bracket. I have both, but I've only built up the BMC, which I really love. Others have noted the giant headtube and long chaintstays on the Roadini, which will likely alter the handling. Finish wise, I'd give the Roadini the edge. The grilver is gorgeous in person, and

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

Does the Roadini come with a BB? UN-55 is $15-20. Uno seatpost is $15-20. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

Y'all gon make me crazy with this BMC stuff. There's an actual BMC bike company which makes this ridiculous low-bar city bike which I like even though it's ridiculous. Enjoy! (and try to say Black Mountain Cycles so we know what you're talking about!)

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

I could have put $150 for a King! On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 5:47:13 PM UTC-6, Belopsky wrote: > > That's a fancy headset you spec ;) > > FSA Orbit is $20-25. > Cane Creek 40 if you want to get fancy for $40-45. > > On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 5:45:01 PM UTC-5, Dave Grossman wrote: >> >>

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

That's a fancy headset you spec ;) FSA Orbit is $20-25. Cane Creek 40 if you want to get fancy for $40-45. On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 5:45:01 PM UTC-5, Dave Grossman wrote: > > its not a $300 difference. The BMC has no headset, so thats $50-100 right > there. Plus the post and B.B. on the

Re: [RBW] Re: Fendered Roadini

No spacer, cork or otherwise, needed on my build. I just used one of the leather washers at the chainstay bridge. The cork spacer is a nice included item with the Mud Butlers. The other nice thing about these fenders is that the seat stay clamp is plasti-wrapped making for a silent install.

[RBW] FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

Complete bike: $1500 shipped or $1400 local pickup-Washington DC area. Or F/f/hs/fenders: $800 shipped or $750 local pickup. PayPal please. Background: In this fun pastime of catch and release, it is time to release this bike. I bought the f/f/hs used on eBay and built it up as a 650b

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Racks / bag supports and Bags by Acorn, Berthoud, Swift, Mission, etc.

Updated On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 5:10:53 PM UTC-5, Stephen D wrote: > > Updated: > > On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 4:48:45 PM UTC-5, Stephen D wrote: >> >> See below for updated list of availability. >> >> On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 1:13:43 PM UTC-5, Stephen D wrote: >>> >>> All, >>>

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

its not a $300 difference. The BMC has no headset, so thats $50-100 right there. Plus the post and B.B. on the Roadini. I’d put it at $175-$200. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

My wife has a Roadini and a Hillborne. I have a BMC Road (orange with flat fork crown) and a Toyo built 650b AHH. All but the Hillborne are set up as road bikes with drop bars. Down tube shifters on the Roadini and AHH, brifters on the the BMC Road. First I think a lot of folks would say the

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Racks / bag supports and Bags by Acorn, Berthoud, Swift, Mission, etc.

Updated: On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 4:48:45 PM UTC-5, Stephen D wrote: > > See below for updated list of availability. > > On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 1:13:43 PM UTC-5, Stephen D wrote: >> >> All, >> >> I've gathered another round of items to sell. Nitto racks come with the >> mounting

Re: [RBW] Surly Dingle Cog Discontinued

Thanks. 2 more questions: Did you feel any additional drag with the coaster brake edition? And: do you feel safe riding a freewheel with just a front brake? (A second brake of course is largely for backup purposes, since most braking is done with the front.) I know that British Racing Tr*cycles

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Racks / bag supports and Bags by Acorn, Berthoud, Swift, Mission, etc.

See below for updated list of availability. On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 1:13:43 PM UTC-5, Stephen D wrote: > > All, > > I've gathered another round of items to sell. Nitto racks come with the > mounting hardware shown, so if you need longer or more angled struts, I'm > afraid you'll have to

[RBW] Re: Did you lose your Silver Roadeo?

I bought Chris’ silver Roadeo. I’m not home at the moment but I’ll assume it’s not mine, unless the thief finished the build for me. Melanie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

the price difference is over $300... maybe that's not much to some, but it certainly makes me wonder... just imagine what you could do with an extra $300+ when it comes to wheels or tires... I haven't ridden a Roadini, but I did have a Bleriot and when you compare the frame of the Bleriot

Re: [RBW] BMC Road vs Roadini

Those are Waterford made. I think geometry is similar to the BMC. Roadini has a monster headtube compared to the others. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Racks / bag supports and Bags by Acorn, Berthoud, Swift, Mission, etc.

See below for items still available On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 1:13:43 PM UTC-5, Stephen D wrote: > > All, > > I've gathered another round of items to sell. Nitto racks come with the > mounting hardware shown, so if you need longer or more angled struts, I'm > afraid you'll have to purchase

[RBW] Re: Fenderless Sam: Snoqualmie or Barlow Pass?

On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 12:57:05 PM UTC-5, tc wrote: > I can now confirm that Snoqualmie Pass (44mm) tires fit just fine on my > fenderless Sam with Tektro R559 sidepulls.  I hope that is helpful for some > of you current or future Sam owners considering these tires. > Awesome

Re: [RBW] None of your skinny 48 mm tires for me!

I put those tires on my VO piolet and love how fast they roll. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: FS: Saluki

Congratulations to buyer and seller! Someone will be getting a fine bike. Best, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Torque spec for quil stem questions

“as long as you are sensible and not a brute” Och! Well then, I’m out. Ogres need not apply. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: Obenauf's on shoes?

UPDATE: I just put it on my Lems Russett Leather Boots and didn't darken the color much, so the color still looks nice. 1.8mm full-grain leather. Gives a shine to the leather and looks good. So I would say will be good for boots. Will try my Lems dress shoes next. I think they are same leather

[RBW] FS: Nitto Racks / bag supports and Bags by Acorn, Berthoud, Swift, Mission, etc.

All, I've gathered another round of items to sell. Nitto racks come with the mounting hardware shown, so if you need longer or more angled struts, I'm afraid you'll have to purchase those. The bags are in excellent shape. The racks may have some dirt and / or tape residue from where I

[RBW] Re: Fenderless Sam: Snoqualmie or Barlow Pass?

Keep in mind those “optimum” pressure numbers are a starting point and a wide variety of factors will change “optimum” for any given rider/road/trail/set up. I found 30-35 psi what perfect for the Snowqualmie, and with the Barlow/Steilacoom I up that by 5psi, and likely ten if I ride loaded. I

[RBW] Re: Torque spec for quil stem questions

I'm the kind of idiot who can over tighten a quill's stem bolt so much that I broke it. I was using a new Park torque wrench which failed to stop at the specified limit. I drove my Hunqapillar over to Riv HQ and asked Mark to look over my head tube to see if I had caused any damage to my frame.

[RBW] Re: Fenderless Sam: Snoqualmie or Barlow Pass?

I can now confirm that Snoqualmie Pass (44mm) tires fit just fine on my fenderless Sam with Tektro R559 sidepulls. I hope that is helpful for some of you current or future Sam owners considering these tires. Pictures here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/9kfJxuf3sXyDyBoA3 Personally, I really like

Re: [RBW] Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

Well said, Steve. And that’s one of the benifits of riding single speed for a while — it will teach you a lot about gearing and effort and cadance, so that when you go back to a geared bike you are a stronger rider who knows your preferences for cadance, power, gear spacing, etc. Even if you

Re: [RBW] BMC Road vs Roadini

Just to throw in a third (fourth?) option, any feedback on the Milwaukee road frame ? Just less than an $800 for a MUSA frame with fork. Eric On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Dave

[RBW] Re: Riv shipping, a new world record

Shipped means picked, packed, boxed, labeled, prepared for pickup that day at 4pm (in the case of UPS, which is 90 percent). If USPS, it means boxed and taken to the post office that day. Everybody here knows the best-run, most clocklike department here is shipping. A couple of times a year a

Re: [RBW] Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

On 01/14/2018 10:35 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: The OP is thinking about switching from 2x9 to 2x11 with brifters. If you want to do it because you can afford it and you think it will make you happy, go for it If you want to do it because it will make your bike look more contemporary and that

[RBW] Re: Did you lose your Silver Roadeo?

Hello, I had a silver rodeo that I sold to a list member. I dont know how many of them are out there but there can’t be that many. Where was it found? I prob still have the serial number. Message me if you don’t want to post more info publicly. Chris -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

Haha, as other have said, if you want more "speed" going to 11 isn't really going to do it. Fitness is the key. Nevertheless, if you need to go to 11 speed, why stop at 105?! Yes, a 105 groupo is relatively cheap - under $500:

[RBW] BMC Road vs Roadini

Most of the comparisons I have read are from Bill Lindsay. Both seem great. I wonder what he big difference is as well between the BMC Monstercross and BMC Road. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

7 is heaven 8 is great 9 is divine The rhyme stops there -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

As Bill says, there is no magic answer to “trying to get ways for more speed,” but may I suggest the opposite approach? Fewer gears. Ride single speed. You will gain strength and power. Do it on your Rodeo, as it is now. Pick a gear and do not shift it out of that gear. Ride till you can’t,

[RBW] BMC Road vs Roadini

Anyone have both, or at least ridden both? Prices are close, so that aside, let me know what you think. Still debating just getting a monster cross so I can run ss. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Did you lose your Silver Roadeo?

Where was it found? Could search for it here: https://bikeindex.org/bikes?query_items%5B%5D=c_3=Rivendell+Roadeo==null=100=stolen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Re: Fendered Roadini

Or a nylon spacer or two -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

The OP is thinking about switching from 2x9 to 2x11 with brifters. If you want to do it because you can afford it and you think it will make you happy, go for it If you want to do it because it will make your bike look more contemporary and that appeals to you, go for it If you want to do

[RBW] Re: Fendered Roadini

I've attached the link below describing the procedure. The corks are surprisingly durable and you also get the bonus of drinking the wine :) http://www.astoriabike.com/2005/03/heres-to-you-ken-glug.html On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 7:17:17 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > What is "wine

[RBW] Did you lose your Silver Roadeo?

Wow. I hope the owner reads this group. It may help to reach out to rivendell directly. They would possibly have records connecting the serial number to the owner. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Torque spec for quil stem questions

I am very much a “by feel” kind of tech guy. It’s why I like steel so much. It allows you to operate in that manner as long as you are sensible and not a brute and know your tools. I have torque wrenches, the old fashioned kind where the arm bends and the arrow at the end points to the weight

[RBW] Re: Do you like your Berthoud stainless fenders?

I too have the hammered Honjos on my Rambouillet. Conceptually the hammering gives both some 3D structure and work hardening to allow less material and lighter weight of them. They have been pretty resilent but I did replace an earlier set bent enough out of shape from being rear-ended by

[RBW] New Bike Syndrome

My experience echoes yours, Rusty. I’m a 1 bike person and this is my first Riv, so I made lists (spreadsheets), window shopped, and compiled everything until the Clem was was shipped. Then I tore down my Kodiak and cleaned the migratory components. Everything* was ready for the new frame when

[RBW] Re: Torque spec for quil stem questions

On the Riv site, I found they display the *Nitto *torque recommendations here: https://www.rivbike.com/pages/nitto-torque-specs Unfortunately their catalog doesn't have torque spec's: http://nitto-tokyo.sakura.ne.jp/Catalog.pdf Obviously any fastener or component manufacturer is gonna have

Re: [RBW] Re: Fendered Roadini

Or, if you prefer something in silver, head to your local Ace hardware and buy an aluminum spacer or two. Works great. Best, Richard Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 14, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Buy wine. Drink wine. Install fenders, drinking wine. Use a

[RBW] Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

I've been riding the standard friction or Shimano-indexed bar-end Riv-type setup for 25 years. My only extremely limited experience of what you're contemplating was a ride around the building on a demo Roadeo at RBW HQ. It had a 105 group, 10-speed I think. My first (very surprised) reaction

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubeless Maintenance

Jeff: I hope you find that OS works better. In a more recent post, just this past Friday, I found ~200 gr of semi-dried OS lining the rear F Fred, with 2904 miles on the clock. Patrick Moore iPhone > On Jan 12, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Jeffrey Arita wrote: > > Patrick, > >

[RBW] Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

Hi all, Looking for opinions and perspective s before scratching an itch! I've been riding my Roadeo with a dura ace 7400 double crank (38 and 48t) with a Sora 8 speed 11-25 cassette, Shimano bar ends (9 speed but running friction) and an older XT rapid rise rear derailer. The gearing is