[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Clayton.sf]

Philip, what tires you bringing. weather looks iffy. I am debating knobbies 
instead of slicks.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternative Bars for the Clem

[tc]

Jim, yes 31.8 clamp.  It's a Nitto UI-12 with a 60mm reach (they go up to 
120mm reach).  Got it from seller hobby_japan on ebay.

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 10:15:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> What stem is that?  31.8?
>
> On Mar 2, 2018 5:36 PM, "tc"  wrote:
>
>> Nice picture!  I'm using an inverted albatross on my SimpleOne.  But 
>> since I really liked the Jones loop bar on my old MTB, I installed a Jones 
>> on my Clem and really love it.  You would not believe how it changes the 
>> feel of the bike.  
>>
>> See https://photos.app.goo.gl/toG73SUOZ0HMe1tw1  (I need to shorten 
>> cables now, and install grips...)
>>
>> Tom
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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Clayton.sf]

can't wait!!

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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Philip Williamson]

I saw that on Instagram - looks amazing.
I look forward to seeing it next weekend at the Redlands Strada Rossa.

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternative Bars for the Clem

[Jim Bronson]

What stem is that?  31.8?

On Mar 2, 2018 5:36 PM, "tc"  wrote:

> Nice picture!  I'm using an inverted albatross on my SimpleOne.  But since
> I really liked the Jones loop bar on my old MTB, I installed a Jones on my
> Clem and really love it.  You would not believe how it changes the feel of
> the bike.
>
> See https://photos.app.goo.gl/toG73SUOZ0HMe1tw1  (I need to shorten
> cables now, and install grips...)
>
> Tom
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[RBW] Re: Alternative Bars for the Clem

[tc]

Wayne, the changes I experienced moving from the Bosco to the Jones on my 
Clem include what I described earlier regarding a more natural leaning turn 
(with Jones) rather than a feeling of pushing the bar to turn, as with the 
Bosco and more upright bars that have grips that come straight back.

The Jones is wider, so you can get into a more athletic position with more 
leverage -- which to me is more important off-roading.  Your elbows are 
pointed more outward, and it allows you to engage your lat's and feel 
really locked in if you need that for stability, esp. on bumpy downhills.  
However, the Jones also gives you like 5 different hand positions (similar 
to Bosco, but different ones) so you're not limited to the wider grip.  And 
with the new Gnarwal attachment 
Jones offers, you can even get into an aero position -- so sign up for a 
tri :)

The Boscos that come standard on the complete Clem's are 55s, which are too 
narrow for my comfort anyway.  My elbows are tucked in; just doesn't feel 
quite right to me.

Don't let the limited height of the stem scare you.  The grips end on your 
side of the stem with the 60cm reach UI-12, so even though you're lower, 
unless you have extremely tight hams, glutes, and lower back, it shouldn't 
be a problem.  I'd say try it; you can always sell it if it doesn't work 
out, and you won't have wondered "what if".

Hope that helps,
Tom

On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 6:54:36 PM UTC-5, Wayne Naha wrote:
>
> Thank you for the measurements, Tom!  That will be a big help in figuring 
> out a good setup.  Maybe one of those Wright 'zero stems' from 
> AnalogCycles 
>  would be 
> useful here.  Though they are a bit pricy.  I just don't think that the 
> Nitto UI-12 stem is gonna put a Jones bar high enough, and even the minimum 
> 60mm extension may put the bars too far forward.
> After you installed the Jones loop, what changes did you notice from the 
> Bosco bar?
>
>
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 8:46:03 AM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>>
>> Wayne, thanks.  Boscos definitely come back closer to the saddle, and are 
>> obviously higher, no matter how slammed.  
>>
>> As for the Jones, I measured 16-1/4" between a straight edge held between 
>> the tips of the bar and the saddle tip.  Jones bars have long grips; 7-1/2" 
>> from bar tip up to the brake clamp.  Between saddle tip and quill bolt 
>> center is 19".  Stem has a 60mm reach.  (My Clem is a 59.)
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 10:23:45 PM UTC-5, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>>
>>> Those Jones bars on the Clem are the bees knees, for sure.  TC, can you 
>>> compare the reach between the Bosco and the Jones bars.  As in, how far 
>>> does each come back?  I've got the stock Bosco-moose bar on my Clem now. 
>>>  I'm trying to figure out what stem length to use with a Jones bar.  The 
>>> current Clem cockpit has me very upright, even with the bars "slammed," as 
>>> it were.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met

[tc]

I've seen none, but, with the health benefits that are measurable by 
typical "annual physical" measurements, and by how you feel, I'd say this 
is pretty safe from a purely common sense point of view.  But  -- what I 
have to remember is that, with all of the proteins and fats you're 
ingesting, don't forget to take care of your intestinal system, if you know 
what I mean.  If figure it would be a shame to achieve the heart health of 
a 20 year old but die of colon cancer... 

Tom

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 8:06:20 PM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> Any studies about longterm effects of an EBDJ diet?
>
> So much conflicting theories out there. So confusing, which is what 
> usually makes me hesitate to try a diet shift.
>
> Does anyone really know what these diets do to use long term? 
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: BMC Monstercross F/F/HS 65cm

[Jonathan D.]

I wish it was a 56. 

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met

[Lum Gim Fong]

@Karl:
Thanks for the info. Sounds like it can be easily done then. 

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met

[Lum Gim Fong]

Any studies about longterm effects of an EBDJ diet?

So much conflicting theories out there. So confusing, which is what usually 
makes me hesitate to try a diet shift.

Does anyone really know what these diets do to use long term? 

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[RBW] ISO: Nitto Albatross B352AA - Heat Treated Aluminum Version

[WheelsOfSteel]

Very good to excellent to new condition. Please email me. Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Belopsky]

Wow nice. 

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 4:15:55 PM UTC-5, Clayton.sf wrote:
>
> Just build up my Falconer BMC disc. 59 size.
>
> No silly light parts,  1x gearing, 32h wheels. 44mm snoqualmie TL tires.
>
> 23 pounds even without pump and fenders. 
>
> Good enough! Could trim off more by cutting the steerer a bit more and 
> going carbon stem, bars, and post as well as lighter pedals, but I will 
> likely not do that.
>
> Clayton Scott,
> SF, CA
>
>
> On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 11:59:21 AM UTC-8, Dave Grossman wrote:
>>
>> Wow thanks Bill.  Now I am really excited about this frame.  I sold my 
>> Pugsley a little while ago because of the Q factor and my knees and was 
>> going to find an winter MTB to replace it with.  I might just throw some 
>> knobbies on the BMC and not look back.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Austin Tx cycling and Bobish shops

[alan lavine]

Thank you all for all the suggestions.
Alan

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 10:26:04 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I've been in Brad's shop - it is refreshing compared to many SA shops. 
>  Best thing I can say about Brad, he gave me curb-service wheel truing one 
> day when I had my daughter in s. Austin for 90 minutes with a trainer.  
>
> On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 9:00:41 AM UTC-6, sean wrote:
>>
>> This coming week will be a bit insane with SXSW going on. Lots of traffic 
>> and crowds. Plenty of good riding however outside of the downtown circus. 
>> For Bobish shops:
>>
>> The Peddler
>> CycleEast (already mentioned)
>> Eastside Pedal Pushers
>> Bicycle Sport Shop (major dealer, but has some Bobish stuff and cool 
>> mechanics/staff)
>>
>> When in South Austin:
>>
>> BikeAlot (easily the best bike shop in South Austin and Brad is a master 
>> of Rivish/Bobish builds).
>>
>>
>> https://austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Transportation/2017_Austin_Bike_Map_-_Side_1.pdf
>>
>> Enjoy Austin.
>>
>> Sean
>> ATX
>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Clayton.sf]

Just build up my Falconer BMC disc. 59 size.

No silly light parts,  1x gearing, 32h wheels. 44mm snoqualmie TL tires.

23 pounds even without pump and fenders. 

Good enough! Could trim off more by cutting the steerer a bit more and 
going carbon stem, bars, and post as well as lighter pedals, but I will 
likely not do that.

Clayton Scott,
SF, CA


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>
> Wow thanks Bill.  Now I am really excited about this frame.  I sold my 
> Pugsley a little while ago because of the Q factor and my knees and was 
> going to find an winter MTB to replace it with.  I might just throw some 
> knobbies on the BMC and not look back.
>

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Philip Williamson]

That looks great. Good work!
Interesting and elegant build to match the interesting and elegant lugs and 
dropouts. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 10:03:35 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Tavan wrote:
>
> Finished the handlebar wrap (man, do I need more practice) on my Frank 
> build - with the contrasting swoop on the fork crown and the cross levers, 
> I think I'll call him Mr. Mustache. Initial bad photos here, but I promised 
> my local shop I'd do better. Campagnolo ATB triple cranks (with a 42T TA  
> Zephyr large chainring) plus three gears in back make for one funny 
> single-speed, but we'll see how it goes. Just needs lights and possibly 
> fenders. I have some cream SKS Longboards that look amazing on it, but are 
> just a tiny bit narrow for comfort over the 38mm tires. I'm sort of 
> thinking about getting some 50mm Berthoud fenders powder coated cream, 
> having seen how the plastic ones looked. Seems a little silly to bother 
> with fenders at all, but I like how they keep the bike cleaner (and me 
> drier in the rain).
>
> Kind of an experimental build here: in addition to the triple crankset, 
> I've gone a bit cyclocross on this build. Knobby Compass tires, Nitto 
> RM-013 dirt drops, and weird Dixna cross levers. The latter look weird, but 
> they legitimately give one extra hand position with brake access, with the 
> thumbs from the corners. Haven't done any distance on it yet. We'll see. 
> The bike feels great - a nice fit, I think.
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto rack, Tektro cantis, Shimano levers, XD2, Rustines

[Drw]

This is what is left. 

*Sugino XD2 crankset- *170mm arms, some scuffing, but lots of life left. - 
60$ shipped. 

*Nitto 27-R/ Campee Rear Rack-* New in packaging. For 650b/26in but fits 
(probably not super fat) 700c as well. its about 1.5cm shorter than the 
700c version. missing the M5 bolts for the pannier rails. 175$ shipped

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Re: [RBW] FS: BMC Monstercross F/F/HS 65cm

[Jim Bronson]

I thought about buying one of the V3 65cm frames when they were on
closeout, and even went so far as having them send me a CAD drawing with a
proposed saddle height and stem configuration.  It seemed like it would be
a bit small for my preference, specifically on reach and bar height.  I was
also worried about the final aesthetics on an 87cm saddle height.  Plus, I
have several bikes that I really like, so I passed.  It's interesting
though to see one for sale locally in Austin, but the problem for me right
now is that I'm not in a position to acquire another frame.  Good luck on
the sale.

-Jim

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Reid Echols  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Looks like I've got an Appaloosa on the way, so it's time to move on my
> BMC Monstercross frameset. Really stellar frame; there's some definite
> Riv-ish magic in it. It's the V3 in a really classy grey. No major nicks or
> scratches, and clearance for days.
>
> I'd like to get something like $400 plus shipping for it, to help offset
> the cost of the new build. For reference, I'm 6'4" with a longish torso.
>
> Here's a photo of it built up, I've got more if you're interested:
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BcieBCmFShX/
>
> Thanks,
> Reid in Austin, TX
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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Dave Grossman]

Wow thanks Bill.  Now I am really excited about this frame.  I sold my 
Pugsley a little while ago because of the Q factor and my knees and was 
going to find an winter MTB to replace it with.  I might just throw some 
knobbies on the BMC and not look back.

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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Kieran J]

I have run a set of 29x2.1 Thunder Burt Liteskins on my BMC, and they fit 
in a similar fashion to the Bronsons Bill has shown. A comfortable amount 
of clearance all around.

KJ


On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 10:14:11 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> Here are the requested clearance photos.  The tires are WTB Bronson 
> 29x2.0  They read 50-622 on the casing.  They measure a physical 52mm on 
> HED Belgium Plus 25mm rims with tubes pumped to high pressure (~40psi).  
>
>
> I have a set of brand new 29x2.1" Thunder Burt Snakeskins on another 
> wheelset that I can't test fit onto this frame.  Those tires measure 54.5mm 
> on a different 23.5mm rim, set up tubeless at high pressure (~35psi).  
>
>
> I hope that tells you what you want to know.  
>
>
> Bill
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 8:11:43 AM UTC-8, Dave Grossman wrote:
>>
>> That is the info I want to hear!  I was debating grabbing some Panaracer 
>> Fire Cross in a 45 but if I could fit a Thunder Burt than no brainer.  Do 
>> you know what variation he has of the frame?
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met

[Frank Conway]

This thread (and ensuing discussion) compelled me to buy the book.  Interesting 
stuff - thanks all.

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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Ian A]

Thanks for those picks Bill. Clearance is impressive.

IanA

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

[Bob Lovejoy]

Hello AKo!

Can you provide info on the size of your Roadini (57?, 61?) and the saddle 
height in the picture?   I think I saw that you also have a 60cm Cheviot 
(correct me if I am wrong) and am curious of your thoughts so far.

Any opinions on the ride, the sizing, the build would be welcome. 

Beautiful bike and build!

Thanks,

Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL


On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 12:51:54 PM UTC-6, AKo wrote:
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> 
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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

[AKo]

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 3:47:02 PM UTC-4, William R. wrote:
>
> I took my first "serious" ride on my new Roadini this morning. 28 chilly, 
> brisk, Halloween miles! Short version is it is beautiful, awesome and 
> everything you expect from Rivendell. You may skip to the photos now if you 
> wish...
>
>
> I was notified that Leo Roadini had arrived at my local FedEx location on 
> Friday. Work was crazy and I didn't want to be hasty so I waited until 
> Saturday morning to pick it up. Out of the box everything was packed very 
> well. My daughter assisted me with unpacking. She complained that it was 
> heavy, but I didn't think so... Once unpacked I took a good look at the 
> frame. What a beauty! Rivendell's attention to detail is so high. The new 
> seat lug is a thing of beauty, right down err up to the little curly cue 
> point where the seat post goes in. Nicer than the simple point on my 
> Appaloosa. The decals and gorgeous grilver paint are executed so nicely. 
> The welds in the places where there are no lugs are uniform and clean. I 
> really like the "napkin holders" on the head tube also. I think they serve 
> a structural purpose and are aesthetically pleasing too.
>
>
> We had a lot of soccer and projects for school going on this weekend. I 
> was sure I would not get it built up over the weekend. Still, knowing I was 
> taking today off, I was hoping that maybe by Tuesday I could get it out for 
> at least a shake down ride. Well, as luck would have it, we got hit with a 
> pretty nasty east coast rain storm that was just a drencher all day Sunday. 
> All soccer was cancelled. Projects were done on Saturday. Besides cooking 
> and chasing cabin feverish kids around the house from time to time, I was 
> able to focus on the build.
>
>
> Again, as I went about the build I was continually impressed by Rivs level 
> of attention. Obviously they took it out of the box and went over it before 
> shipping it on to me. Even the water bottle screws had been taken out and 
> the threads lightly greased. I could also tell that a wheel set was very 
> lightly installed. Alignment check? I appreciate that they took the time to 
> do these things. I have had a couple of other frames from other companies 
> that I know were built in the same neighborhood in Taiwan, if not the same 
> factory. I never got the impression that they had left their boxes from the 
> time they were packed at the factory. Luckily there were no problems with 
> those frames, but as time goes on, all of these things that Riv does add up 
> and keep me coming back.
>
>
> The build went smoothly, most of the parts used were from my used parts 
> bin. Some of you may remember me trying to sell my Compass Rene Herse 
> crankset about a year ago. I'm glad nothing came of that! This is the 
> perfect frame for that crank. I also had the SKF bottom bracket, so I 
> pulled the one that came with the frame and installed those. The chainrings 
> are a little worn though and the cassette that I am using here has some 
> miles too. I recently installed a new chain on these used parts and was 
> experiencing some chain skip. To avoid that I put a new chain on my 
> Appaloosa and used the old chain here. It has maybe 1200 miles on it and it 
> worked perfectly. The drive train is quiet, smooth and there is no skip. 
> Maybe I can rehab this drivetrain a bit and get the most miles out of it by 
> cutting down on the miles that I put on the new chain on the Appaloosa 
> before I switch it over to the Roadini little-by-little over time?
>
>
> When Will called me to tell me that the frame was ready to ship, he also 
> mentioned that it was coming with a seat post. I was happy to hear this. I 
> thought Grant said that posts would not be included with these Roadini's. 
> The only 26.8mm post that I had on hand was a super long mtb post. I didn't 
> really want to use that one and was contemplating cutting it. Glad the 
> frame came with the post and I didn't have to deal with any of that. The 
> only new parts that I had to get were the wheels and the brake calipers. I 
> had the buttery Simplex Retrofriction shifters. I also had the cockpit: 48 
> Noodles, Shimano levers and Nitto 9cm stem. I have two pretty used tire 
> choices that I need to wear out before I get any new tires. I decided to 
> start with the Kojaks. They are worn a little square but definitely have 
> some life left in them. Nominally they are 35s, but they measure 32 on the 
> A23 rims with tubes. I also have a pair of Jack Brown Greens that I suspect 
> will measure out closer to their 33.3 size. I have 3 Brooks B17 saddles. 
> The newest one is on the Appaloosa and is staying there. My son is using 
> another on his Crosscheck. The oldest one by far is this one on this build. 
> Bought, used and soaked multiple times since 2009, it 

[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

Thanks Bill. Appreciate the response.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met

[Deacon Patrick]

Coconut oil in coffee is a fall back food for us. Coffee and cream were made 
for each other. My “breakfast” (in quotes, because it doesn’t break my fast as 
far as carbs are concerned, so technically still IF) is a cup of homemade bone 
broth and a cup of coffee and cream.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: WTB 62-65cm Riv frame

[Reid Echols]

And there you have it. Looks like I'll be riding an Appaloosa soon :) 

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[RBW] FS: BMC Monstercross F/F/HS 65cm

[Reid Echols]

Hi folks, 

Looks like I've got an Appaloosa on the way, so it's time to move on my BMC 
Monstercross frameset. Really stellar frame; there's some definite Riv-ish 
magic in it. It's the V3 in a really classy grey. No major nicks or scratches, 
and clearance for days. 

I'd like to get something like $400 plus shipping for it, to help offset the 
cost of the new build. For reference, I'm 6'4" with a longish torso. 

Here's a photo of it built up, I've got more if you're interested: 
https://www.instagram.com/p/BcieBCmFShX/

Thanks, 
Reid in Austin, TX 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met

[Evan E.]

Count me as another happy beneficiary of the EBDJ regimen. My HDL 
cholesterol is now higher (that's a good thing) because of it. 

If you're reading this and you somehow haven't already tried the EBDJ plan, 
note two things:

1. "Paleo flu" is a thing. Know that for five, or ten, or twenty days after 
you go low-carb, you may well feel sluggish, irritable, headachy. Stay the 
course. It gets better.

2. In addition to coconut oil being awesome, coconut butter 

 
is pretty great, too. It's pureed coconut meat, so it's not as oily as oil, 
but it still contains plenty of oil and fat and calories. I find the butter 
much easier to eat from a spoon than coconut oil. But the butter doesn't 
melt easily into coffee, so you'll want oil for that. Add some grass-fed 
butter to your coffee, too. Tastes good. People will think it's even more 
disgusting than oil, alone, in your coffee.

Evan

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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Bill Lindsay]

Here are the requested clearance photos.  The tires are WTB Bronson 29x2.0  
They read 50-622 on the casing.  They measure a physical 52mm on HED 
Belgium Plus 25mm rims with tubes pumped to high pressure (~40psi).  


I have a set of brand new 29x2.1" Thunder Burt Snakeskins on another 
wheelset that I can't test fit onto this frame.  Those tires measure 54.5mm 
on a different 23.5mm rim, set up tubeless at high pressure (~35psi).  


I hope that tells you what you want to know.  


Bill





On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 8:11:43 AM UTC-8, Dave Grossman wrote:
>
> That is the info I want to hear!  I was debating grabbing some Panaracer 
> Fire Cross in a 45 but if I could fit a Thunder Burt than no brainer.  Do 
> you know what variation he has of the frame?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met

[Karl]

Lum,

I unfortunately eat about 80% of my meals away from home. I say this to say 
it is the easiest way of eating I have found to eat at every place I go. I 
also can order directly off the menu most places without having to be "that 
customer". I regularly eat Indian food, and can navigate it pretty well. No 
rice, and looking for cream based sauces. Hope this helps.

Karl "Need to eat at home more" 
Nashville, TN 

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 1:08:28 AM UTC-6, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> If you EBDJ can you still do an Indian food buffet once a week without 
> reversing the EBDJ effectiveness?
> Serious question.
>
> Will you be able to Eat regularly with your family without alienating 
> anyone? Serious question.
>

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal me

[Deacon Patrick]

Andy asked about floor living. No chairs. Bed is a platform bed with a thin 
wool pad. The idea came out of what I learned going barefoot almost a decade 
ago. Because of my bludgeoned brain I have constant neurological vertigo 
(basically I feel like I’m on two planets simultaniously, each with constantly 
changing gravity strength and direction, plus whatever my own motion is). What 
barefooting taught me is my feet were weak because of shoes, rather than I need 
more supportive, cushioned, raised heel shoes because my feet are weak. My body 
learned to know, though the input from my bare feet, where I was in space. And 
I began moving better, smoother, no more knee or back issues (which stemmed 
from cushioned, raised heel shoes, I now know).

Anyway, I applied the same concept to furniture, realizing that the best nights 
sleep I was getting was durring bikepacking. It took months (like shifting to 
barefoot) for mymuscles and body to shift and strengthen and learn how to move 
better, (and a year or so for full transition), but now the only chair I sit in 
is the car seat and I sit corss-legged in that. Our whole family shifted to 
floor living, and what we discovered is we feel constantly better, with strong 
cores, lithe muscles, far fewer aches and pains.

Turns out science is catching up with this idea, though the solutions they come 
up with miss returning to the simplest solution. All those studies that show 
sitting in an office chair is bad for heart health, etc? Floor living. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: How do ye determine your saddle height.

[Peter Trasko]

I gradually raise the saddle until my hips start to rock back and forth 
with pedaling, then lower it a bit. It works. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Jeremy Tavan]

I had the crankset on hand waiting for a project worthy of it, mainly. It's 
certainly unnecessary, but I also have a dingle and flip-side cog on this 
giving a lot of possible gearing choices. The overall tooth calculations:

42 + 16 = 58   (72 gear inches)
36 + 16 = 52   (62 gear inches)
36 + 19 = 55   (52 gear inches)
36 + 22 = 58   (45 gear inches)
28 + 22 = 50   (35 gear inches)

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 7:51:49 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Jeremy: that's an elegant chainring and crankset. Question: Why 3 rings 
> instead of a Dingle and a flip-side cog? You get more gear ratio change for 
> your units of axle movement when you change the # of teeth at the rear, 
> compared to the front.
>
> I've thought of commissioning a multispeed fixed hub from Phil (they said 
> they'd do it; though this was years ago) that would allow me to install 3 
> fixed cogs on one side. But the 17/19 or 17/20 Dingle have served my 
> purposes sufficiently.
>
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Jeremy Tavan  > wrote:
>
>> Here's the crankset. My shop had to machine down the TA chainring for a 
>> better match to the shape of the crank spider. In the back, it's a White 
>> DOS 19/19, and on the other side of the wheel a 22t freewheel.
>>
>> By the math, assuming an 8t max adjustment range, it should work, but I 
>> haven't yet tried the various gearings. I will need to adjust the wheel 
>> fully forward in the dropout and get the chain JUST the right length for it 
>> to have a chance to work with the granny gear.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 3:11:01 AM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>>>
>>> More photos of the drivetrain please 
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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal me

[Dave Grossman]

Great thread all!

Congrats to all of you that have found success.  I am found the same 
success a couple of years ago with this method as well.  I was gaining 
weight and not feeling my best with a bunch of small kids to take care of. 
 In addition, I have an auto immune gut issue that was flaring on and off 
for almost 16 years.  

I decided to do a modified Paleo diet eliminating gluten, grains, and 
refined sugars.  It has done wonders for my life.  I am back to my old 
college hockey playing weight, have tons of energy, and feel great.  My gut 
has been in good condition throughout as well.  I cheat and have some bread 
once a week (a slice of homemade stuff) and that is about it.  When I 
travel and get off track I really feel it.  

It is amazing how much your body can tolerate, abuse wise, through diet. 
 All of your stories about high weight, A1C, etc really speak on that.  We 
are all so used to feeling terrible from our modern diets that we don't 
even know what healthy feels like anymore.  Grant's book is great and while 
I have a different variation of it, it speaks much truth.  I do have a 
sweet tooth and still eat sweets but they are made with maple syrup, honey, 
almond flour, etc.  I still want to enjoy that aspect of life, after all!

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Jeremy Tavan]

Today, yes. In general, probably not. :)

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 7:26:44 AM UTC-8, Paul Choi wrote:
>
> Are we going to see this on Caltrain?
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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal me

[Andy L]

Hi Deacon,
I’m intrigued by your phrase “floor living.”  Would you mind explaining it?
Thanks,
Andy

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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Dave Grossman]

That is the info I want to hear!  I was debating grabbing some Panaracer 
Fire Cross in a 45 but if I could fit a Thunder Burt than no brainer.  Do 
you know what variation he has of the frame?

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[RBW] Re: Hunqabeam Quickapillar sighting

[Deacon Patrick]

John, the rack mounts are original Hunqafodder. I should have had the derailure 
cable guide taken off — but didn’t think that all through. I just was thinking 
of the dropout swap.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Deacon Patrick]

Fantastic, elegant build, Jeremy! I love it!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Braxton Colagross]

A friend has 2.1" Thunder Burts under Berthoud fenders on his BMC MC. It's 
tight but they don't rub and he's ridden many miles. 

On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 7:31:18 PM UTC-8, Ian A wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Please let us know how much room you have left over with the 50mm tires. 
> I'm guessing to tight for fenders at that width? I know you said yours is 
> to be sans fenders, but I'm curious anyway,
>
> IanA
>
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 4:24:53 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Edwin asked how I picked the size.  
>>
>> I own two Black Mountain Road Frames already.  They are both 59cm.  Mike 
>> changed the sizing a while ago.  If I was buying one of his road frames 
>> today, I don't know if I'd buy a 60 or a 58.  I talked to Mike in person 
>> once or twice, and we agreed that if I was in my 20s I might have run a 
>> 56.  I'm 49 and don't need my bars super low, so a 58 made more sense.  My 
>> Saddle Height is 75.5cm.  If I was buying a Rivendell Roadeo, I'd get a 
>> 59.  I fit well on a 55 Joe Appaloosa.  We'll see how the standover works 
>> out.  I might get time to mock up the standover with my 29"x2.0 knobbies 
>> tonight. 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 3:06:47 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:
>>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> How did you pick the size, and what are the sizes of your other bikes?
>>>
>>> I have looked at those frames before, but after seeing your post I went 
>>> and looked at them some more. It really does seem "dumb not to buy one" as 
>>> you say! What sensible bikes.
>>>
>>> If I had some 2-3 hour mountain bike rides in my future, I sure would 
>>> want one of those.
>>>
>>> Mostly just biking from A to B on my Joe Appaloosa,
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 12:31:33 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 I finally bought a BMC Monstercross frameset.  Why?  Because it's dumb 
 not to buy one.  The only thing that had been stopping me was the 
 horizontal dropouts, because vertical dropouts are categorically better.  
 Since the last time I decided horizontal dropouts were a dealkiller, I've 
 acquired 4 bikes with horizontal dropouts, and guess what?  I didn't die.  
 Vertical dropouts are better, but horizontals are not the end of the 
 world.  The BRIGHT green colorway of the latest batch made it 
 irresistable.  So, new bike day?  The build will be a drop bar mountain 
 bike.  No racks, no lights, no fenders.  It'll be used for 2-3 hour 
 mountain bike rides. I'll post photos when there is something to look at.  
 I have a couple small details to iron out.  

 In the meantime, there have been a couple gram-counter threads 
 recently, and I thought I'd offer up another datapoint while I have a bare 
 frame and fork:

 A 58cm Black Mountain Monstercross frame, with Cane Creek 40 headset 
 cups pressed in, weighs 2257g
 The fork with a crown race installed and an uncut threadless steerer is 
 1057g

 Use that data for whatever you like.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Patrick Moore]

Jeremy: that's an elegant chainring and crankset. Question: Why 3 rings
instead of a Dingle and a flip-side cog? You get more gear ratio change for
your units of axle movement when you change the # of teeth at the rear,
compared to the front.

I've thought of commissioning a multispeed fixed hub from Phil (they said
they'd do it; though this was years ago) that would allow me to install 3
fixed cogs on one side. But the 17/19 or 17/20 Dingle have served my
purposes sufficiently.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Jeremy Tavan  wrote:

> Here's the crankset. My shop had to machine down the TA chainring for a
> better match to the shape of the crank spider. In the back, it's a White
> DOS 19/19, and on the other side of the wheel a 22t freewheel.
>
> By the math, assuming an 8t max adjustment range, it should work, but I
> haven't yet tried the various gearings. I will need to adjust the wheel
> fully forward in the dropout and get the chain JUST the right length for it
> to have a chance to work with the granny gear.
>
> 
>
>
> On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 3:11:01 AM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> More photos of the drivetrain please
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[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[Bill Lindsay]

Jay in Tel Aviv asked me to recommend wheels for his Roadini

I still think the HED Ardennes are still nice wheels for the price.  The 
price today is $700, but I don't know of another $700 wheelset that I would 
prefer.  It's a bummer you didn't jump on them when they were $350, but 
they are still good wheels, in my opinion.  You have to jump at deals when 
you see them, if you want to get deals. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito CA

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 12:37:15 AM UTC-8, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Your recommended $349 "not-dumb" wheels seems to be discontinued at 
> Jenson. 
> What would you get today for a hopefully not dumb Roadini?
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
> On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 6:02:58 AM UTC+2, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> I'm not sure what the point is, exactly.  Are you trying to test me on 
>> all possible bike parts, looking for me to say some part is 'not dumb', so 
>> you can say "gotcha! that part IS dumb!" ?  Do you sincerely want me to 
>> design your build list for you because you want to build a 19 pound Roadeo 
>> and don't know how to do it?  Do you suspect I'm wrong and you want to 
>> prove that I can't build a 19 pound Roadeo?  Or are we just killing time 
>> because it's Winter?  
>>
>> Whatever it is, you are right that I have better things to do than to 
>> design a proper and complete build list in the way I normally approach 
>> builds.  I approach builds with a lot of forethought and deliberation, and 
>> I've gotten pretty good at it.  I'm not going to design a Roadeo build for 
>> you, but I'll give you something in the ballpark.  
>>
>> My 59cm Black Mountain Cycles Road bike weighs 20.2 lbs (9171g) as 
>> pictured:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> I categorize everything in five buckets:
>>
>> A. Frameset (59cm BMC Road + Cane Creek 50 headset)
>> B. Wheelset (HED rims, 32 spokes, White Industries hubs, Challenge Eroica 
>> tires, SRAM 1070 cassette, standard tubes) 
>> C. Drivetrain (Herse Cranks, White Industries Ti BB, Shimano SPD pedals, 
>> Dura Ace 10 F+R ders, Dura Ace downtube shifters, SRAM 1091 chain)
>> D. Components (Flite saddle, ultegra seatpost, Nitto Soba handlebars, 
>> Civia Bryant stem, Shimano mid reach brakes, customized tektro brakelevers, 
>> newbaums tape)
>> E. Accessories (bell, two ti cages)
>>
>> A 19 pound Roadeo needs to be 545 grams lighter.  I assume the Roadeo 
>> frameset is a hair lighter than my $600 Black Mountain frameset, but I 
>> don't know for sure.  Assume they are the same.  I would save some weight 
>> by running a not-dumb all-metal wheelset.  I think carbon wheels are dumb.  
>> Carbon sucks as a braking surface, and carbon clinchers with a metal 
>> braking surface are neither light nor affordable.  My current favorite 
>> not-dumb wheelset is the HED Ardennes Plus.  Its a 1610g wheelset, with 
>> 25mm wide tubeless ready metal rims.  Everybody smarts regards those rims 
>> as bomber, and Jenson sells the wheelset for $349.  not-dumb-wheels 
>>   That 
>> would drop about 150 grams.  I'd run Chinook Pass EL tires and light tubes, 
>> which would drop another 150 grams.  The 220 gram Flite saddle works for 
>> me, but the 145 gram also works for me.  A Dura Ace cassette which is 
>> half-ti costs $189 but it saves another 75 grams or so.  Don't run a bell, 
>> and a nice steel threadless stem would weigh about 70 grams less than the 
>> one I have.  That puts me right at 19 pounds with nothing dumb.  I think 
>> that maybe VO Gran Cru brake calipers might be a little lighter than the 
>> Shimanos, but whatever.  There are plenty of lighter 'road' pedals, but 
>> whatever.  My customized brakelevers might seem dumb.  I customized them to 
>> improve the shape and for the fun of the look, but it also reduced the 
>> weight to just under 100g per lever.  SRAM carbon levers weigh more like 
>> 125 grams per lever, and I could go find 50 grams somewhere else.  If the 
>> $2400 Roadeo is in fact a few grams lighter than the $595 Black Mountain, 
>> then I'd be ahead of the game.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 4:01:56 PM UTC-8, ted wrote:
>>>
>>> Bill,
>>> You seem to ask what I was asking.
>>> I am wondering what you think is dumb when it comes to building a light 
>>> Roadeo. I.e. what choices could you make that would make it lighter that 
>>> you would chose not to make because you think it would be dumb.
>>> I would also be interested if you would suggest a build list that 
>>> results in a sub 19lb Roadeo, but that seems like a bit much to ask. I 
>>> expect you've got better things to do.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ted
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Belopsky]

Get em from 
Japan 
https://www.amazon.co.jp/DIXNA-%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%82%BA%E3%83%8A-%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%AC%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC-%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AB%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC/dp/B00HJEHIOQ/ref=pd_cp_200_1?_encoding=UTF8=1=5M090ZNRJZVK7KK39KNN

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 10:24:43 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Tavan wrote:
>
> They're Dixna cross levers. I think your Merry Sales dealer should be able 
> to order them, though I don't see them on the somafab web store. I'll post 
> a report on them once I've got some time with them.
>
> On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-8, Leif Eckstrom wrote:
>>
>> Gorgeous. What are those interrupter levers? Modern guidonet levers of 
>> some kind? Look awesome. Would love to hear about functionality of those 
>> levers once you get some miles in on this bike. 
>> Thanks, 
>> Leif
>> Chicago
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Paul Choi]

Are we going to see this on Caltrain?

On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 10:03:35 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Tavan wrote:
>
> Finished the handlebar wrap (man, do I need more practice) on my Frank 
> build - with the contrasting swoop on the fork crown and the cross levers, 
> I think I'll call him Mr. Mustache. Initial bad photos here, but I promised 
> my local shop I'd do better. Campagnolo ATB triple cranks (with a 42T TA  
> Zephyr large chainring) plus three gears in back make for one funny 
> single-speed, but we'll see how it goes. Just needs lights and possibly 
> fenders. I have some cream SKS Longboards that look amazing on it, but are 
> just a tiny bit narrow for comfort over the 38mm tires. I'm sort of 
> thinking about getting some 50mm Berthoud fenders powder coated cream, 
> having seen how the plastic ones looked. Seems a little silly to bother 
> with fenders at all, but I like how they keep the bike cleaner (and me 
> drier in the rain).
>
> Kind of an experimental build here: in addition to the triple crankset, 
> I've gone a bit cyclocross on this build. Knobby Compass tires, Nitto 
> RM-013 dirt drops, and weird Dixna cross levers. The latter look weird, but 
> they legitimately give one extra hand position with brake access, with the 
> thumbs from the corners. Haven't done any distance on it yet. We'll see. 
> The bike feels great - a nice fit, I think.
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Austin Tx cycling and Bobish shops

[Ron Mc]

I've been in Brad's shop - it is refreshing compared to many SA shops. 
 Best thing I can say about Brad, he gave me curb-service wheel truing one 
day when I had my daughter in s. Austin for 90 minutes with a trainer.  

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 9:00:41 AM UTC-6, sean wrote:
>
> This coming week will be a bit insane with SXSW going on. Lots of traffic 
> and crowds. Plenty of good riding however outside of the downtown circus. 
> For Bobish shops:
>
> The Peddler
> CycleEast (already mentioned)
> Eastside Pedal Pushers
> Bicycle Sport Shop (major dealer, but has some Bobish stuff and cool 
> mechanics/staff)
>
> When in South Austin:
>
> BikeAlot (easily the best bike shop in South Austin and Brad is a master 
> of Rivish/Bobish builds).
>
>
> https://austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Transportation/2017_Austin_Bike_Map_-_Side_1.pdf
>
> Enjoy Austin.
>
> Sean
> ATX
>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Jeremy Tavan]

They're Dixna cross levers. I think your Merry Sales dealer should be able 
to order them, though I don't see them on the somafab web store. I'll post 
a report on them once I've got some time with them.

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-8, Leif Eckstrom wrote:
>
> Gorgeous. What are those interrupter levers? Modern guidonet levers of 
> some kind? Look awesome. Would love to hear about functionality of those 
> levers once you get some miles in on this bike. 
> Thanks, 
> Leif
> Chicago

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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Dave Grossman]

Not yet Igor.  In the works.

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 9:16:19 AM UTC-6, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Have you built it up yet Dave?
>
> On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 9:41:32 AM UTC-5, Dave Grossman wrote:
>>
>> One of the things that inevitably sold me on the frame was Mike mocking 
>> up a CAD drawing of the two sizes I was between and helping me with fit. 
>>  He spent so much time with me online and on the phone.
>>
>> I also liked the idea of running wide rubber (2.0s or so) in the winter 
>> instead of running a dedicated winter bike.  It might be a do it all frame.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Belopsky]

Have you built it up yet Dave?

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 9:41:32 AM UTC-5, Dave Grossman wrote:
>
> One of the things that inevitably sold me on the frame was Mike mocking up 
> a CAD drawing of the two sizes I was between and helping me with fit.  He 
> spent so much time with me online and on the phone.
>
> I also liked the idea of running wide rubber (2.0s or so) in the winter 
> instead of running a dedicated winter bike.  It might be a do it all frame.
>

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Jeremy Tavan]

I take part of this back. I would not expect outer chainring/inner cog to 
work: chain too short.

Now for some more coffee.

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 6:57:19 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Tavan wrote:
>
> It was theoretically set up for outer/outer, middle/inner, inner/other 
> side. However, I would expect middle/outer and outer/inner to work as well 
> - but no real reason to do it.
>
> On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 6:25:28 AM UTC-8, Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>>
>> Well done!  It’s a Tringlespeed!  Looks like a lot of fun. Curious if the 
>> triple/triple gearing is fully functional within the adjustment range of 
>> the track ends/dropout slots or is each combo gear ratio & chainline 
>> specific?  i.e.  outer/outer, middle/middle, inner/inner? 
>>
>> Brian Cole 
>> Lawrenceville NJ
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Austin Tx cycling and Bobish shops

[sean]

This coming week will be a bit insane with SXSW going on. Lots of traffic 
and crowds. Plenty of good riding however outside of the downtown circus. 
For Bobish shops:

The Peddler
CycleEast (already mentioned)
Eastside Pedal Pushers
Bicycle Sport Shop (major dealer, but has some Bobish stuff and cool 
mechanics/staff)

When in South Austin:

BikeAlot (easily the best bike shop in South Austin and Brad is a master of 
Rivish/Bobish builds).

https://austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Transportation/2017_Austin_Bike_Map_-_Side_1.pdf

Enjoy Austin.

Sean
ATX

>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met

[DaveS]

Lum-speaking only for myself here. If I overdo and go out  of ketosis I dry out 
from the meal and put myself back in within a few days. I have tried cheat days 
throwing in burgers fries coke for lunch once a week, without any weirdness to 
my glucose readings which is one of those data points that I check to see how I 
am reacting to food . I have found that I process foods better eating smaller 
more vegan portions w clean proteins, but the weight loss is likely more 
responsible for that kick start w good choice not diet keeping it going. There 
was an I tersting article about this in Tuesday’s NYTimes science section

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Jeremy Tavan]

It was theoretically set up for outer/outer, middle/inner, inner/other 
side. However, I would expect middle/outer and outer/inner to work as well 
- but no real reason to do it.

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 6:25:28 AM UTC-8, Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>
> Well done!  It’s a Tringlespeed!  Looks like a lot of fun. Curious if the 
> triple/triple gearing is fully functional within the adjustment range of 
> the track ends/dropout slots or is each combo gear ratio & chainline 
> specific?  i.e.  outer/outer, middle/middle, inner/inner? 
>
> Brian Cole 
> Lawrenceville NJ

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Jeremy Tavan]

Here's the crankset. My shop had to machine down the TA chainring for a 
better match to the shape of the crank spider. In the back, it's a White 
DOS 19/19, and on the other side of the wheel a 22t freewheel.

By the math, assuming an 8t max adjustment range, it should work, but I 
haven't yet tried the various gearings. I will need to adjust the wheel 
fully forward in the dropout and get the chain JUST the right length for it 
to have a chance to work with the granny gear.




On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 3:11:01 AM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
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> More photos of the drivetrain please 

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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Dave Grossman]

One of the things that inevitably sold me on the frame was Mike mocking up 
a CAD drawing of the two sizes I was between and helping me with fit.  He 
spent so much time with me online and on the phone.

I also liked the idea of running wide rubber (2.0s or so) in the winter 
instead of running a dedicated winter bike.  It might be a do it all frame.

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Well done!  It’s a Tringlespeed!  Looks like a lot of fun. Curious if the 
triple/triple gearing is fully functional within the adjustment range of the 
track ends/dropout slots or is each combo gear ratio & chainline specific?  
i.e.  outer/outer, middle/middle, inner/inner?

Brian Cole 
Lawrenceville NJ

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[RBW] Re: Hunqabeam Quickapillar sighting

[Belopsky]

If you dont want to spend as much as a Phil..

https://velo-orange.com/collections/hubs/products/grand-cru-fixed-hub-rear

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 12:34:22 AM UTC-5, Max S wrote:
>
> Those dropouts look very nice! 
>
> Speaking of Fixed / Fixed hubs, any recommendations on those that fit 130 
> and/or 126 mm OLD?.. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Hunqabeam Quickapillar sighting

[JohnS]

To DP,

Looks like you've asked to have braze on mounts added to the seat stay or 
were they always there? The QB/S1 drop out has a single rack/fender mount. 
I got around it by drilling and treading a hole in the rack strut above the 
original mount.

To Max S,

The Phill Wood hub has "axle" end caps of different lengths which can be 
taken off with an Allen wrench. They end caps are not cheap, but nothing PW 
is. There are a pair for 120mm and another for 130/135mm. They work great, 
easy to change.

JohnS
QB owner for 4 years, 5 years riding fixed and my knees still haven't blown 
out!


On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 12:34:22 AM UTC-5, Max S wrote:
>
> Those dropouts look very nice! 
>
> Speaking of Fixed / Fixed hubs, any recommendations on those that fit 130 
> and/or 126 mm OLD?..
>


 

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[RBW] Re: WTB 62-65cm Riv frame

[a spens]

PM sent.
Al

On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 11:57:14 PM UTC-5, Reid Echols wrote:
>
> I love my 64cm Sam, but have been curious about trying another Riv. Maybe 
> an Appaloosa? A quickbeam? A road? One of those Roscos? 
>
> In any case, let me know if you’re looking to sell something tall and 
> interesting. 
>
> Thanks, 
> Reid in Austin

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Leif Eckstrom]

Gorgeous. What are those interrupter levers? Modern guidonet levers of some 
kind? Look awesome. Would love to hear about functionality of those levers once 
you get some miles in on this bike. 
Thanks, 
Leif
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Jacob]

A beautiful and interesting build!  I second the motion for close-ups of 
that drivetrain.

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[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[Belopsky]

I've decided to go bar-end on my Gunnar (snow and cold makes Igor work and 
not ride bikes..) so I will be swapping bars and maybe stem and etc..

Without pedals, bars (but stem), shifters, cables my Gunnar weighs 19.8lbs 
= 8981.13grams
Each tire (Maxxis Rambler 700x40) is said to weigh 400g so not that light 
at all. If I go down to 35mm like the Bon Jon then that brings me down 
to 8,797.13grams which is a good savings but regardless I don't know if I 
could get this bike down to 21lbs or less?

I don't know what my Shimano RX100 levers weigh, or what the bar-ends and 
cables would add, but bars are around 300g (I have a 31.8mm stem and 
regular reach 31.8 are hard to find?) So anywho, that brings 9097.13g so a 
tad over 20 without levers, shifters, cables and pedals, but sounds do-able?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met

[Ron Mc]

Just finished a HS wrestling season (as a parent).  Parents within the 
region (in this case, one-fourth of Texas) get to know each other pretty 
well from Thanksgiving to the end of February.  Wrestler's diet is all 
about controlling weight to make weight, daily burning calories to keep in 
shape, and being able to short-term burn enough calories to perform.  Over 
the season, you chat with some very lean parents who've been sharing the 
table with their wrestlers.  

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 1:08:28 AM UTC-6, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> If you EBDJ can you still do an Indian food buffet once a week without 
> reversing the EBDJ effectiveness?
> Serious question.
>
> Will you be able to Eat regularly with your family without alienating 
> anyone? Serious question.
>

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[RBW] Re: How do ye determine your saddle height.

[Ron Mc]

On your pedals, you want to be able to lock your knees, but not Must lock 
your knees to complete a stroke.  

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 5:52:46 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> You're going to find it varies from bike to bike with different riding 
> positions.  
> The more roady drop-bar the bike, the straighter you're going to be above 
> the pedals, and the higher your saddle will be.  
> The more upright the bike, the farther forward you need your knees, which 
> means greater rear offset and shorter saddle height.  
> No matter your starting point, trial and error (in the positive sense) is 
> going to fine-tune it.  
>

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[RBW] How do ye determine your saddle height.

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yes, for spd pedals, PBH-11cm works for me. For thin flats, like VP001 or Vice 
or Catalyst, it is PBH-12 to 13cm. The obvious variables are shoe thickness, 
your flexibility, and riding style. I would think those variables wouldn't 
change saddle height by more than 1cm and probably less.

Joe, who has drunk the Catalyst pedal kool aid and will be selling other fine 
pedals here, in GJT. 

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[RBW] Re: How do ye determine your saddle height.

[Matt B.]

PBH minus 11cm is a really good place to start, but many folks don't have a 
good measurement of their PBH.  Another good way to set saddle height is to 
raise it to where your heels can not quite reach the pedals at the bottom 
of the pedal stroke, but the balls of your feet can.   

Either one of these starting points may wind up putting the saddle a bit 
too high or a bit too low - so whichever method you use to set the saddle 
height, you normally have to adjust it as you ride.  One way to tell if 
it's to high is to gauge whether your hips rock noticeably side to side as 
you pedal.   On the other hand, your saddle may be too low if the fronts of 
your knees begin to hurt and your legs feel cramped as though you've been 
doing the limbo dance.  

For all-day riding, a correct/comfortable saddle height is sensitive even 
to changes in footwear or pedals, i.e. it has to be within a cm of the 
right spot or you'll feel it in your legs or back.


On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 2:12:14 AM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> RBW’s PBH-11cm or some other method?

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[RBW] Re: How do ye determine your saddle height.

[Ron Mc]

You're going to find it varies from bike to bike with different riding 
positions.  
The more roady drop-bar the bike, the straighter you're going to be above 
the pedals, and the higher your saddle will be.  
The more upright the bike, the farther forward you need your knees, which 
means greater rear offset and shorter saddle height.  
No matter your starting point, trial and error (in the positive sense) is 
going to fine-tune it.  

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Ron Mc]

Very sharp, indeed.  
When I see bikes this pretty, I'm always glad they're not in my size, so I 
don't have to covet

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[RBW] Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Belopsky]

More photos of the drivetrain please 

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[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

Bill,

Your recommended $349 "not-dumb" wheels seems to be discontinued at Jenson. 
What would you get today for a hopefully not dumb Roadini?

Thanks,
Jay

On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 6:02:58 AM UTC+2, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
> Ted
>
> I'm not sure what the point is, exactly.  Are you trying to test me on all 
> possible bike parts, looking for me to say some part is 'not dumb', so you 
> can say "gotcha! that part IS dumb!" ?  Do you sincerely want me to design 
> your build list for you because you want to build a 19 pound Roadeo and 
> don't know how to do it?  Do you suspect I'm wrong and you want to prove 
> that I can't build a 19 pound Roadeo?  Or are we just killing time because 
> it's Winter?  
>
> Whatever it is, you are right that I have better things to do than to 
> design a proper and complete build list in the way I normally approach 
> builds.  I approach builds with a lot of forethought and deliberation, and 
> I've gotten pretty good at it.  I'm not going to design a Roadeo build for 
> you, but I'll give you something in the ballpark.  
>
> My 59cm Black Mountain Cycles Road bike weighs 20.2 lbs (9171g) as 
> pictured:
>
>
> 
>
>
> I categorize everything in five buckets:
>
> A. Frameset (59cm BMC Road + Cane Creek 50 headset)
> B. Wheelset (HED rims, 32 spokes, White Industries hubs, Challenge Eroica 
> tires, SRAM 1070 cassette, standard tubes) 
> C. Drivetrain (Herse Cranks, White Industries Ti BB, Shimano SPD pedals, 
> Dura Ace 10 F+R ders, Dura Ace downtube shifters, SRAM 1091 chain)
> D. Components (Flite saddle, ultegra seatpost, Nitto Soba handlebars, 
> Civia Bryant stem, Shimano mid reach brakes, customized tektro brakelevers, 
> newbaums tape)
> E. Accessories (bell, two ti cages)
>
> A 19 pound Roadeo needs to be 545 grams lighter.  I assume the Roadeo 
> frameset is a hair lighter than my $600 Black Mountain frameset, but I 
> don't know for sure.  Assume they are the same.  I would save some weight 
> by running a not-dumb all-metal wheelset.  I think carbon wheels are dumb.  
> Carbon sucks as a braking surface, and carbon clinchers with a metal 
> braking surface are neither light nor affordable.  My current favorite 
> not-dumb wheelset is the HED Ardennes Plus.  Its a 1610g wheelset, with 
> 25mm wide tubeless ready metal rims.  Everybody smarts regards those rims 
> as bomber, and Jenson sells the wheelset for $349.  not-dumb-wheels 
>   That 
> would drop about 150 grams.  I'd run Chinook Pass EL tires and light tubes, 
> which would drop another 150 grams.  The 220 gram Flite saddle works for 
> me, but the 145 gram also works for me.  A Dura Ace cassette which is 
> half-ti costs $189 but it saves another 75 grams or so.  Don't run a bell, 
> and a nice steel threadless stem would weigh about 70 grams less than the 
> one I have.  That puts me right at 19 pounds with nothing dumb.  I think 
> that maybe VO Gran Cru brake calipers might be a little lighter than the 
> Shimanos, but whatever.  There are plenty of lighter 'road' pedals, but 
> whatever.  My customized brakelevers might seem dumb.  I customized them to 
> improve the shape and for the fun of the look, but it also reduced the 
> weight to just under 100g per lever.  SRAM carbon levers weigh more like 
> 125 grams per lever, and I could go find 50 grams somewhere else.  If the 
> $2400 Roadeo is in fact a few grams lighter than the $595 Black Mountain, 
> then I'd be ahead of the game.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 4:01:56 PM UTC-8, ted wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>> You seem to ask what I was asking.
>> I am wondering what you think is dumb when it comes to building a light 
>> Roadeo. I.e. what choices could you make that would make it lighter that 
>> you would chose not to make because you think it would be dumb.
>> I would also be interested if you would suggest a build list that results 
>> in a sub 19lb Roadeo, but that seems like a bit much to ask. I expect 
>> you've got better things to do.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ted
>>
>

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