[RBW] Re: FS Surly LHT

[Joe Bernard]

Do we know this fellow? 

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[RBW] Re: Your favorite Rivendell?

[Kainalu V.]

Nice! Pleasure sharing the road with you Todd. I'm usually hitting the 
Queensboro at 8:40ish, but that day's meeting promised all the coffee and 
treats I could wolf down before the 9am start, thus the five minutes ahead of 
late... 
I was looking at a photo on here of an orange quickbeam and saw how I may have 
seen it as a red/cinnamon color. Yours is indeed a different shade? Regardless, 
killer bike, nicely outfitted. I'll be on the lookout.
-Kai
BK NY 

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[iamkeith]

I've got #44.  I'll scan this week.

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[RBW] Re: FS Surly LHT

[CMR]

For any one interested in the LHT, I just received a nice email: "What 
business is it to u what's my email address?"

It's a nice bike but left drop bar lever seems held together with a zip tie 
from a fall:

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/surly-long-haul-trucker-lht/6580038713.html

Chris
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Carl]

THANKS so much Jim, Reed, Shoji, Tim for sharing these, and to Grant for 
saying yes. It means a lot to have them. It's a major gift!

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 7:27:23 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> There was a query yonder on the FB about specific editions of the 
> Rivendell Readers. (They were requesting RR#10, RR#41 and RR#42).  
>
> Turns out that the latter two had been uploaded to a Cyclofiend.com 
> archive folder.  Toward the end of the Reader run, they would make a PDF 
> version of the readers available in addition to the print version. And I 
> stashed these two here - 
>
> RR#42 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR42_web.pdf
>
> RR#41 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR41_web.pdf
>
> As i was searching to see if there were more of these around, I came 
> across the references and a thread to the sethdot.org project to set up a 
> Reader archive. I have to say that saddened me a bit, as I realized how 
> long it had been since Seth Vidal left us way too soon. Sigh. He was 
> quality guy who I am sad to say I never got to meet in person. 
>
> Since my own collection of early Readers had been a bit sporadic (I had 
> enjoyed the first ones via copies borrowed from someone else, since 
> returned), I had bought the first CD of Readers way back when.  This 
> included RR#'s 1 through 11.  (Yes, it went up to 11...) Since surprisingly 
> fewer computers these days even can swallow CD's, I thought it prudent to 
> copy these to a dropbox folder, which should be accessible via this link 
> for now - 
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5f0hbf4i5e5n2dq/II0rxQi1lpzCCiU5JbeAa?dl=0
>
> I'll add to this thread as more items are unearthed.
>
> - Jim
>
> cyclo...@gmail.com  / cyclofiend.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[John G.]

This was a delight to have on a long Acela ride today. Thank you!

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[RBW] Re: New Journal Entry up at Analog Cycles: Disconnecting to get connected: A Journey in Satchidananda

[James / Analog Cycles]

Steve, thanks!  More pics coming.  We don't make syrup (the shop is an old 
sugar house my great uncle built, but it's all bikes now) but a local 
friend (Gary of the North) makes great syrup from the trees on our land, 
and I could send ya some for the going rate.  We do plan to help him next 
spring, with the tapping and evaporation process.   Mainly that means 
sitting around in a steamy sugar house, feeding wood chunks to the 
evaporator, drinking cheap beer.

-james
On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote:
>
> James, The shop and county look amazing.  I'm not surprised, considering 
> how nice the Frederick shop was.  I'm sorry that I didn't as much time 
> there as I would have liked.  Since you mentioned maple trees, I'm 
> wondering if you will brew Analog Maple Syrup.  Anyway, best wishes for the 
> enterprise, and I hope to be able to visit someday.  Please keep posting 
> your story and photos to this list!  Cheers, Steve
>
>
> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:02:16 PM UTC-4, James / Analog Cycles wrote:
>>
>> Journal entry about Analog Cycles moving to Vermont, starting our shop 
>> off the grid, hewing thoughts down, Modal Jazz and stormy seas, that sort 
>> of thing.  The new shop space is coming along.  We'll be open June 1, with 
>> luck.  181 Hillside Rd, East Poultney VT, 05764.  Lots of Atlantis frames n 
>> demo bikes on tap, as well as Sams, a Clem or two, lots of Crust stuff, and 
>> more.  Enlightened fitting, wheel builds, lightning systems...  All outta a 
>> small Sugar House in a stand of maple trees.  
>>
>> https://www.analogcycles.com/2018/05/03/disconnecting-to-get-connected/
>>
>>
>> 
>>  
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Journal Entry up at Analog Cycles: Disconnecting to get connected: A Journey in Satchidananda

[islaysteve]

James, The shop and county look amazing.  I'm not surprised, considering 
how nice the Frederick shop was.  I'm sorry that I didn't as much time 
there as I would have liked.  Since you mentioned maple trees, I'm 
wondering if you will brew Analog Maple Syrup.  Anyway, best wishes for the 
enterprise, and I hope to be able to visit someday.  Please keep posting 
your story and photos to this list!  Cheers, Steve


On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:02:16 PM UTC-4, James / Analog Cycles wrote:
>
> Journal entry about Analog Cycles moving to Vermont, starting our shop off 
> the grid, hewing thoughts down, Modal Jazz and stormy seas, that sort of 
> thing.  The new shop space is coming along.  We'll be open June 1, with 
> luck.  181 Hillside Rd, East Poultney VT, 05764.  Lots of Atlantis frames n 
> demo bikes on tap, as well as Sams, a Clem or two, lots of Crust stuff, and 
> more.  Enlightened fitting, wheel builds, lightning systems...  All outta a 
> small Sugar House in a stand of maple trees.  
>
> https://www.analogcycles.com/2018/05/03/disconnecting-to-get-connected/
>
>
> 
>  
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] SOLD FS: New RIvendelll Stock Atlas Wheels

[Jonathan D.]

SOLD

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[RBW] Re: FS Albatross set up

[Joe Bernard]

It'd be a whole lot easier for folks to figure out the parts and condition if 
you could just link to a pic or Craigslist ad. 

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[RBW] Re: New Journal Entry up at Analog Cycles: Disconnecting to get connected: A Journey in Satchidananda

[ctifusion]

Spiritual jazz and country bikes...

Awesome. Good luck.

Brynnar
Indy

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Kellie Stapleton]

For the street I run RTP 28psi front and 30 rear

> On May 7, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Tim Butterfield  wrote:
> 
> Thanks all for confirming RTP width is non issue for these rims.  I don’t 
> normally run a really low pressure, usually 40+, but now have a first item to 
> check if handling gets squirrelly.
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:54 AM Tim Gavin  
>> wrote:
>> Tim- 
>> 
>> St. Sheldon's dogma is pretty conservative in the regard of "proper tire 
>> width for a given rim width".  
>> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
>> (Width Considerations chart is the red/green one most of the way down the 
>> page)
>> 
>> However, many folks have ridden many millions of miles on 2" (54 mm) tires 
>> on 17 mm internal rims -- because that was pretty much all there were at the 
>> dawn of MTB/ATB/Trekking bikes.
>> 
>> The risk with a too-wide tire is the same as that of an under-inflated tire: 
>> risk of the tire folding over when turning aggressively.  
>> Keep your PSI above ~25 and you shouldn't have that problem with RTPs on an 
>> Atlas rim.
>> 
>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 11:58 PM, Tim Butterfield  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just looked it up.  I think this is the right ones.
>>> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559
>>> 
>>> If so, inside width is 19.8mm with max optimal tire width of 45mm, quite a 
>>> bit narrower than the RTP.  Hmmm.  Will the extra width of the RTP be an 
>>> issue with these rims?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
 On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Tim Butterfield  
 wrote:
 I know the rims are Atlas, but don’t know the width or have a caliper to 
 measure.   With the multiple confirmations, I will be getting the RTP EL 
 tires instead of the other two I had mentioned.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Tim
 
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM Rod Holland  wrote:
> Tim,
> 
> I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a 26"-wheeled 
> LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at 53mm 
> (2.08") on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims you'll 
> be wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior 
> measure of 22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You 
> really might want to give them at try, if they're what you're really 
> looking for. Of the two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the 
> Naches Pass EL over the McClure. The McClure is the last of the 
> "Compassela" tires, good as far as they go, but just not as supple as any 
> of the EL variants. 
> 
> rod 
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to 
>> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass 
>> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and 
>> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>> 
>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
>> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd 
>> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage 
>> of the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't 
>> require rainy rides.
>> 
>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Tim
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[RBW] Re: FS Surly LHT

[CMR]

Please post your own link and clarify what your name is, it says Ned on the 
email address but you have Larry in one of the posts.

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[RBW] Re: FS Albatross set up

[Ned Brennan]

DROPPING price to $99, Stem is 120mm 1 1/8 steer clamp,  SEE PICS on 
Craigslist Sacramento
 

On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 12:40:25 PM UTC-7, Ned Brennan wrote:
>
> bars, Specialized stem, brake levers, cork grips for bar ends, ready to 
> install
> $116
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[RBW] Re: FS Surly LHT

[Ned Brennan]

DROPPING price to $1,289, see pics on Craigslist Sacramento

On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 9:23:27 PM UTC-7, Ned Brennan wrote:
>
> complete bike. 54cm frame, black paint, 26" wheel size w/ Compass tires, 
> fenders, SON front hub w/ B Lumotec Senso and Toplight tail w/ 
> standlight, Nitto drop bars n front rack, Shimano C-70 front brake, Kool 
> Stop pads, w/o pedals and saddle. $1589 
>

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Re: [RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

[Deacon Patrick]

I had a fantastic conversation with the founders of Hold Fast. “We don’t have 
planned obsolence” was one stand out phrase, given in response to my 
description of the stupid riding I do and the LCG wear an upsidedown strap will 
encounter. “If you have a problem with it, let us know, whenever.” and “All our 
materials are mill spect. for us to withstand the rigors of urban fixed gear 
riding doing all kinds of stupid stuff nothing else stood up to.”

Sold. They are sewing me an all grey large as we speak. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Deacon Patrick]

What a fantastic and delightful gift! Thank you, first and foremost, to Grant 
and Co. for generiously sharing these. Like others, I never downloaded them 
before because I didn’t want to infringe. Thank you Jim, Reed, Tim, and Shoji 
for putting this together (and any who add the missing prequills or #40, and 
possibly #44). Seeing the photo on the cover of #43, that is right when I was 
researching bikes to see if I might be able to ride one. That photo is iconic 
for me, as it eppitimizes the riding I’d hoped to do (and now, I DO! Sweet!). I 
look forward to reading these over time, but delighted already in gems like 
“lugite” and “When Band-Aids came in tins” (wow, did that rubber smell come 
back!). Thanks again!

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[lconley]

Thank you all.

Now I know what I will be reading on the plane to LAX next week.

Laing 
Cocoa, FL


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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Birdman]

What a gift to the community, y’all. Thank you so much!

Isaac

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[MartyG]

FWIW - I may have .pdfs of the first couple/three BOB newsletters when 
Grant was with Bridgestone. They set the stage for Readers to come, and are 
just as much fun. I don't have access until the weekend, but will pass them 
along when I do unless someone beats me to it. 

Marty


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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Butterfield]

Thanks all for confirming RTP width is non issue for these rims.  I don’t
normally run a really low pressure, usually 40+, but now have a first item
to check if handling gets squirrelly.

Tim

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:54 AM Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> Tim-
>
> St. Sheldon's dogma is pretty conservative in the regard of "proper tire
> width for a given rim width".
> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
> (Width Considerations chart is the red/green one most of the way down the
> page)
>
> However, many folks have ridden many millions of miles on 2" (54 mm) tires
> on 17 mm internal rims -- because that was pretty much all there were at
> the dawn of MTB/ATB/Trekking bikes.
>
> The risk with a too-wide tire is the same as that of an under-inflated
> tire: risk of the tire folding over when turning aggressively.
> Keep your PSI above ~25 and you shouldn't have that problem with RTPs on
> an Atlas rim.
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 11:58 PM, Tim Butterfield  > wrote:
>
>>
>> I just looked it up.  I think this is the right ones.
>> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559
>>
>> If so, inside width is 19.8mm with max optimal tire width of 45mm, quite
>> a bit narrower than the RTP.  Hmmm.  Will the extra width of the RTP be an
>> issue with these rims?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Tim Butterfield 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know the rims are Atlas, but don’t know the width or have a caliper to
>>> measure.   With the multiple confirmations, I will be getting the RTP EL
>>> tires instead of the other two I had mentioned.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM Rod Holland 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Tim,

 I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a
 26"-wheeled LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at
 53mm (2.08") on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims
 you'll be wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior
 measure of 22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You
 really might want to give them at try, if they're what you're really
 looking for. Of the two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the Naches
 Pass EL over the McClure. The McClure is the last of the "Compassela"
 tires, good as far as they go, but just not as supple as any of the EL
 variants.

 rod


 On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>
> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It
> doesn't currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  
> I'd
> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
> rainy rides.
>
> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] Wide-ish Parigi-Roubaix Tires FS $50/Pair

[Peter White]

Eric,

When new, those are very tight going on. But after a few days on the rim at
pressure they are easy getting on and off.

PJW

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:

> Brand new set of Challenge Parigi-Roubaix tires for sale. $50 shipped in
> the CONUS for the pair, or $30 each.
>
> 700x27 size. Never used, because they’re a very tight fit on the rims I
> wanted to use them on. Nice, supple tire.
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Cyclofiend Jim]

And - Reed, Tim & Shoji - THANK YOU!

- J

On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 12:04:19 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> Was there a #44? 
>
> I have the last catalog, ("the Twentieth catalog") but no hard copies of 
> RR's after 43.
>
> - J
>
> On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 7:39:52 AM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Tim, but I think we've got all those now. Just missing 40 and 44!
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed
>>
>> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 7:20 AM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have 1-39 in PDF. Always happy to share!
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[RBW] Parigi Roubaix Tires SOLD

[Eric Norris]

That was quick!

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Was there a #44? 

I have the last catalog, ("the Twentieth catalog") but no hard copies of 
RR's after 43.

- J

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> Thanks Tim, but I think we've got all those now. Just missing 40 and 44!
>
>
> Best,
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[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Dyna-sys

[Frederic Laforest]

indeed  i just succesfully mix an old shimano 105 8s sis/friction ( in 
friction mode ) with a  10 speed  shimano cassette  but with a mega 9 xt 
rd-771 sgs  , now  my plan is to test the zee derailleur rd m640 (from my 
other bike) with these shifter in friction mode  

Le jeudi 2 juillet 2015 12:58:55 UTC-4, Clayton.sf a écrit :
>
> Hi All,
>
>  
>
> Thought some of you would be interested that despite the fact that 
> internet says you can’t mix shimano Dyna-sys rear derailers with anything 
> but Dyna-sys shifters I am successfully running them with shimano ultegra 8 
> speed bar ends in friction mode. The shifting not only works it works 
> amazingly well. The longer cable pull allows for finer trimming and a 
> greater “sweet spot”. Shifting is crisp and direct which I think is the 
> result of not having that floating pulley. I am running it with and 8 speed 
> cassette, 8 speed chain, and a triple front. Hope this information is 
> helpful. And yes, I can shift across the entire cassette.
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Clayton Scott
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[RBW] Re: Your favorite Rivendell?

[Todd Ferguson]

Hey that was me on the 62 QB which must have been repainted by the previous 
owner. I'm six months into owning it and am loving it (although considering 
making it more upright as the reach is a little long).  I also have a 60 
Ram in Blue and  have seen you before hauling through LIC on that mixte of 
yours but I was on my winter bike -- a SOMA Fixed Gear -- so didn't draw 
your attention.

We will meet again as that is my daily commute.

-- Todd from Brooklyn too.

On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 10:33:52 PM UTC-4, Kainalu V. wrote:
>
> After a 64 Hillborne, (only)two 68 Quickbeams, a 65 Clem H, a Will's 
> Mountain Mixte, and a Hubbuhubbuh. The Beams were super, the Clem does 
> whatever I want it to, the Hillborne was the first bike that fit, and the 
> tandem is too fresh to judge. But the mixte?, that bike rules. Had to do 
> some filing to get the chain to stop pinching between the cassette and 
> somewhat low hourglass braze-on, and the blue took awhile before I loved it 
> (I do!), but that bike gives me great joy. With it's step throughness, it 
> looks slow and relaxed, which makes it more of a kick when it's not being 
> slow and relaxed, and makes slow and relaxed that much more so. Love love 
> love that bike...
> -Kai
> BK NY 
>
> P.S.- whoever was riding that cinnamonny red beauty of a Quickbeam through 
> Queens this morning, yours may be my favorite, wish I wasn't rushing along 
> to a meeting and could've spent a bit of time drooling. 
> Hi. Nice Bike.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Patrick Moore]

Thousands of miles on 50+ mm tires on 13 mm internal rims, no problems.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> And I should have added my own experience: 60 mm Super Motos and 54 mm
> Thunder Burts on 17 mm internal rims, no problems in ~2000 miles of
> gravel.
>
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Paul Clifton 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> I've run 48mm and 58 mm (2.3") tires on my Atlas rims without any
>> problems.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 12:58:39 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I just looked it up.  I think this is the right ones.
>>> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559
>>>
>>> If so, inside width is 19.8mm with max optimal tire width of 45mm, quite
>>> a bit narrower than the RTP.  Hmmm.  Will the extra width of the RTP be an
>>> issue with these rims?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Tim Butterfield 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I know the rims are Atlas, but don’t know the width or have a caliper
 to measure.   With the multiple confirmations, I will be getting the RTP EL
 tires instead of the other two I had mentioned.

 Thanks.

 Tim

 On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM Rod Holland  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a
> 26"-wheeled LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at
> 53mm (2.08") on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims
> you'll be wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior
> measure of 22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You
> really might want to give them at try, if they're what you're really
> looking for. Of the two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the Naches
> Pass EL over the McClure. The McClure is the last of the "Compassela"
> tires, good as far as they go, but just not as supple as any of the EL
> variants.
>
> rod
>
>
> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>
>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want
>> to have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap 
>> Pass
>> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
>> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>>
>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It
>> doesn't currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  
>> I'd
>> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
>> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
>> rainy rides.
>>
>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[Patrick Moore]

I hear that there are other colors of Loctite that work better in shear,
but blue worked for me.

I'd like to see a photo of the Gilbert house. I haven't seen it since about
1966, age 11 or so, when the ancient Gilbert siblings still lived there in
all their Faulknerian eccentricity (Aunt Gus proclaimed with pride that she
hadn't been out of doors for 13 years; she was immensely fat, as you would
be if you ate 3 full ones a day, and snacked on hot buttered biscuits with
honey between courses), complete with cook and kitchen separated from the
house by a covered walkway.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Paul Clifton  wrote:

> Thanks for the tip Patrick. I'll give the loctite a try, since I have
> some, and it's way cheaper than a new seatpost.
>
> I found that historic house you were talking about back in the summer:
> https://goo.gl/maps/NfmsToEgUfL2
> It's less than a mile from where I used to live, but I didn't get a chance
> to ride down there. It's still close by. I'll snap a photo when I do make
> it.
>
> I'm looking forward to getting this bubbe set up more appropriately for
> the trail and giving a good report on how it does.
>
> Paul
>
> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 10:28:18 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> FWIW, I've found in the past that blue Loctite on the cradle stops the
>> slipping; I used it successfully twice, once on the cradle of a Ritchey
>> seatpost with considerable setback, and once on the slightly undersized
>> shaft of a Syncros titanium post that slipped down the seat tube at the
>> rate of about 1/2" per mile on one of my Rivs.
>>
>> I'll be interested to hear from other owners of Rivendell "cruisers" how
>> they do on more technical trails, appropriately built. I don't mean the
>> really steep, rocky/rooty stuff for which a real mountain bike is needed,
>> but nice winding and hilly paths like those in Paul's photos. It seems that
>> some of these bikes would be ideal for such riding, minus the very wide,
>> sweepback bars.
>>
>> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the tip. Torque-ing didn't work. I have a couple 2 bolt
>>> posts, but they aren't the right diameter. I'll see what I can come up
>>> with. I kinda like the look of the Thomson angled posts. I might even try
>>> one in black if I can find it for the right price. The S65 doesn't even
>>> have any knurling to keep it from tipping back. Seems like it should.
>>>
>>> It's fun rediscovering mountain biking around here. Finally having a
>>> bike that can handle it with just a tire swap will make that easier to do.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:53:00 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:

 Congrats on the bike!  Glad you're giving it a chance to show its
 "burly" side.

 You can try torque-ing down the saddle clamp bolt to prevent it from
 shifting.

 But, any two-bolt seatpost will clamp more securely than the Nitto S65
 Crystal Fellow (or clone) you're using.
 The Nitto S83 or lugged S84 are the Riv-supplied solutions.  I also see
 two-bolt posts in silver from Ritchey, Deda, and others.
 I like the clamp head on Thomson posts, but they only come in straight
 (not enough setback with a Brooks) or angled (proper setback, weird
 looks).  Soma's Zero post has the same problem (lack of setback).



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 wrote:
>
>
>> Any suggestions for a seat post that will keep my saddle from tilting
>> back when I bounce around on it?
>>
>> Paul in ATL
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Re: [RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Good stuff -- I'm looking forward to seeing more reports and photos as 
your build evolves.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Jan O.]

Thank you.

On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 8:35:27 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>
> Jan O-yes
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[RBW] Wide-ish Parigi-Roubaix Tires FS $50/Pair

[Eric Norris]

Brand new set of Challenge Parigi-Roubaix tires for sale. $50 shipped in the 
CONUS for the pair, or $30 each.

700x27 size. Never used, because they’re a very tight fit on the rims I wanted 
to use them on. Nice, supple tire.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Paul Clifton]

Hey Darin, just curious, how low is low pressure in this case?

Paul

On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 10:02:35 AM UTC-4, DarinM wrote:
>
> They will not be an issue but will be a little less than ideal. I rode 
> RTPs on 17mm inner rims and they were great but pretty floppy at low 
> pressure. 
>
> Darin

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bags, Parts, Accessories (lotsa)

[Minh]

**Updated and post-weekend price drops, FYI I’m out of town till 5/10, so 
nothing will be shipped until then.

Bike Parts for Sale
TLDR: (but make sure to read below on condtion of certain items!!)
Shipping not included.  Photos: https://goo.gl/photos/9NfCPWYZ6BJEL13f6

Brooks Challenge Tool Saddle Bag, Black, $20
Baggins Handlebar Bag: $60,

Shimano LX V-Brake, $7
Silver Bar-End Shifters and Pods New, $40
GranCompe Shifters on Silver Pods New, $40
IRD Top Shifter Mounts Only: $40
Shimano UN26 BB, 68x113: $5
Shimano Sora Front Derailleur (with plastic shim): $8

Panaracer Pasela (almost) matched Pair, 1 folding 700x38 new, 1 wire 
700x35, light-use: $33
Vittoria Randonneur Hyper 700X38 Pair New: $45

Brooks Team Pro (Eroica 2015) New:  $90
Velo Orange Grand Cru Quill Stem, 120mm New: $40

Weinman Single Pivot Brakes (Type 600 & 500): $12
Minoura Rear Triangle Kick Stand: $10
Mtn Compact Chainrings 94/58: 44/34/22: $12
SideTrack HD Accessory Mount: $7
Boulder Bike Under-Fork-Crown Fender Thingy (under-crown washer): $20

Halogen Package (Vistalight+Cateye):  Free for Shipping cost, see pics at 
link, contact me for more details

Details Below

Hi all, just starting the process of culling the closet, drop me a line if 
you’re interested in anything,  I’m in the Washington DC area.

All prices below are before shipping--if you want something please send me 
a message with your zipcode and i will calculate totals.  if you buy more 
than one item then i will combine shipping as best as i can, there is a 
photoset here -> https://goo.gl/photos/9NfCPWYZ6BJEL13f6

If you want more photos of an item, please let me know.   If you want to 
make me an offer I won’t be offended, but don’t be offended if i don’t 
reply.   Please send all messages privately.

For payment, i accept either Google Pay (preferred) or PayPal.  I will 
leave it up to you based on your comfort level on the type of paypal to use.

And a few terms to keep in mind.  


Prices do not include shipping (I will charge you actual USPS 
shipping)--I’m on the east coast so shipping will be less the closer you 
are to me.  Please email me directly with any questions, if you’re reading 
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Brooks Challenge Tool Saddle Bag, Black,
This is the small leather tool bag, i picked this up second hand and one of 
the bolts had come undone on one of the straps, i replaced it with a nut 
and bolt, you can see the bolt on the inside.  There is some scratches and 
wear on the leather, it could use a good polish. The straps are a little 
crunchy and stretched out, but it still feels like it will hold.

Baggins Handlebar Bag: 
I believe this is the pre-cursor to the hobo bag, it looks a little smaller 
then a true hobo bag and the pockets on the front are different, this one 
has 1 big pocket instead of two separate ones on the front, with a single 
flap.   Some light grease stains on the bottom where it got close to the 
tire (looks worst in pics). Otherwise in very good condition, the leather 
is still really dark. You can use this without a rack or decaleur (and i 
don’t think using a rack would actually help) the bag sways as you 
pedal--but there are d-rings on the corners in the front where you could 
secure it with some twine, will work with drop bars the best.  You can get 
this to work with alba and moustache bars but it will require some creative 
arrangements with twine to the brake levers to secure it.

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Shimano LX V-Brake, 
Single v-brake (1 wheel), the pads are nearly worn down so you’ll need to 
replace soon, no pics but will take some if you really need them.

Silver Bar-End Shifters and Pods,
A little bit of shop-wear but never mounted.

GranCompe Shifters on Silver Pods, 
New, never mounted

IRD Top Shifter Mounts Only: 
Used, sized for roadbars (25.4) so you will need shims to mount these to 
other (22.2) (not included, though $3 online)
please read-up on these and think about what shifters you want to use, 
as-is these would work with non Shimano shifters (Shimano shifters need a 
special washer, which Riv sell).  I mounted a set of Suntour DT shifters, 
right side was fine but left side was a little loose--would need an 
additional washer/shim. You may not have that problem but FYI. I’ve 
included a picture of these mounts with Suntour DT shifters mounted as an 
example.

Shimano UN26 BB, 68x113:
mounted and used, threads look clean

Panaracer Pasela (almost) matched Pair: 
This is an almost matching pair, 1 700X35 wirebead tire that’s been fitted 
and ridden a few miles, the center whisker is still there.  1 700X38 
folding tire that’s NIP. The protective plastic is still on the side 
printing, both are skinwall but one has red logo and one has blue if that 
affects your matching sensibilities!   The 700x35 wire one is mounted right 
now because when i took it out of the closet it was a funny shape (it was 
under some 

[RBW] Re: FS: Riv-approved Nitto cockpit

[Neil Doran]

Yep, wrapped up tightly with two-tone cloth tape. Pic below.




On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 5:47:22 PM UTC-7, Wesley Applequist wrote:
>
> Do you have any pictures of the setup? Also, are the bars wrapped?
>
> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:06:22 AM UTC-5, Neil Doran wrote:
>>
>> Got a new cockpit on my Sam, and selling the olde one. Would prefer to 
>> sell as a unit, but will part out if nobody wants the whole enchilada. 
>>
>> - Nitto noodle 44 cm 
>>
>> - Nitto Tallux 80mm, standard Riv issue (long one) 
>>
>> - TRP drillium levers, *new* gum hoods 
>>
>> - Silver Shifters, smooth as butter 
>>
>> Thinking $180 for this setup, let me know if I’m way off base. I’ll split 
>> shipping with you, or meet me somewhere east of Sacramento.
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Quickbeam - Orange - Complete

[jandrews]

*BUMP* - 
Lowering the price of this complete Quickbeam to $1125 plus shipping 


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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Reed Kennedy]

Thanks Tim, but I think we've got all those now. Just missing 40 and 44!


Best,
Reed

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 7:20 AM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> I have 1-39 in PDF. Always happy to share!
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[RBW] Re: Analog w(Right) stem presale, round 2

[Lester Lammers]

Perfect for running drops on the new Atlantis frames, a Joe App, Chev, 
etc.  Also solid for use with say, a Jones bar or riser bar on longer TT'd 
frames.  Lastly, and my favorite,* it allows shorter torso riders to ride 
the right size frame by shortening the reach to the hoods.  *


 I'm at the top pbh range of a 50 MIT Atlantis and the bottom of the 53 
with a 57.5cm ETT. It'll be drops for me and shifters on the brake levers 
is very cool.


On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 1:21:56 PM UTC-4, James / Analog Cycles wrote:

>
> Hey folks, the first batch of Analog's w(Right) stems sold out really 
> fast.  We were waiting for a while to see what alternative finishes we 
> could offer, and finally got some Ceramic Clear Coated stems back from the 
> finisher.  They look beyond great.  The ceramic coating is this gorgeous 
> semi gloss finish, super thin but durable.  Used on everything from high 
> end car parts to gun parts, so you know it can take a beating.  That's not 
> a pro or anti gun statement, it's just a fact.  
>
> This time around, we have all the options available is items on the 
> website.  Presale runs thru May, closes June 1.  25 will be made this 
> time.  ETA mid summer.  That's a loose ETA,cause things happen.
>
> Perfect for running drops on the new Atlantis frames, a Joe App, Chev, 
> etc.  Also solid for use with say, a Jones bar or riser bar on longer TT'd 
> frames.  Lastly, and my favorite, it allows shorter torso riders to ride 
> the right size frame by shortening the reach to the hoods.  
>
> More info on the presale here 
> .  Pics 
> of the new ceramic finish below.  If you wanna see it in person and you are 
> in the SF bay area, stop by Riv and ask to see Corey's Hunq, which will 
> have this on it in about a week.  
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have 1-39 in PDF. Always happy to share!

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Reed Kennedy]

Thanks so much to Shoji, we now have all but two(!) issues collected up
here:
http://notfine.com/rivreader/

Anyone have digital copies of Rivendell Reader 40 or 44?


Best,
Reed

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 6:38 AM, Shoji Takahashi 
wrote:

> I just checked and have 36-39, but I'm missing 40.
>
> Thanks,
> Shoji
>
>
> On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 9:32:02 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> Hi Reed,
>> I have them. I will DM you to add them to the archive.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Shoji
>> Arlington MA
>>
>> On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 4:32:44 PM UTC-4, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>>
>>> Heard back from Grant, and it sounds like he's fine with it! Here's what
>>> I've got:
>>> http://notfine.com/rivreader/
>>>
>>> Includes RR 12 - 35 from CDs I picked up at RBW HQ a while back, 1-11
>>> that Jim just posted, and 41-43 from when Riv made them available on the
>>> web a while back.
>>>
>>> Anyone have digital copies of 36 - 40 or 44? I'd be happy to add them
>>> and complete that collection.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Reed
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:47 PM, Cyclofiend Jim 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Probably a more well thought-out consideration...

 I'd ask him again. Though if he catches this thread and wants to
 comment here, that would be good.

 There were those cork (?) flash drives which had the pdf's.  Though
 since I had a stack of the print versions, I never thought to buy one.

 If you get the OK, let me know - be happy to land those in the same
 folder for now and host the archive.


 On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 4:42:22 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> Hey Jim,
>
> I have numbers 12 through 35 as PDFs. I’ve been hoping to share them,
> but didn’t feel great about doing so without Grant’s permission. I emailed
> him to ask a while ago, but never heard back. (No surprise, he’s busy!)
>
> I’m torn. I’d love to help out and make all these great stories and
> useful information available, but I’m not really sure they’re mine to
> give... Thoughts?
>
>
> Best,
> Reed
>
> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:27 PM Cyclofiend Jim 
> wrote:
>
>> There was a query yonder on the FB about specific editions of the
>> Rivendell Readers. (They were requesting RR#10, RR#41 and RR#42).
>>
>> Turns out that the latter two had been uploaded to a Cyclofiend.com
>> archive folder.  Toward the end of the Reader run, they would make a PDF
>> version of the readers available in addition to the print version. And I
>> stashed these two here -
>>
>> RR#42 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR42_web.pdf
>>
>> RR#41 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR41_web.pdf
>>
>> As i was searching to see if there were more of these around, I came
>> across the references and a thread to the sethdot.org project to set
>> up a Reader archive. I have to say that saddened me a bit, as I realized
>> how long it had been since Seth Vidal left us way too soon. Sigh. He was
>> quality guy who I am sad to say I never got to meet in person.
>>
>> Since my own collection of early Readers had been a bit sporadic (I
>> had enjoyed the first ones via copies borrowed from someone else, since
>> returned), I had bought the first CD of Readers way back when.  This
>> included RR#'s 1 through 11.  (Yes, it went up to 11...) Since 
>> surprisingly
>> fewer computers these days even can swallow CD's, I thought it prudent to
>> copy these to a dropbox folder, which should be accessible via this link
>> for now -
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5f0hbf4i5e5n2dq/II0rxQi1lpzCC
>> iU5JbeAa?dl=0
>>
>> I'll add to this thread as more items are unearthed.
>>
>> - Jim
>>
>> cyclo...@gmail.com / cyclofiend.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[Paul Clifton]

Thanks for the tip Patrick. I'll give the loctite a try, since I have some, 
and it's way cheaper than a new seatpost.

I found that historic house you were talking about back in the summer: 
https://goo.gl/maps/NfmsToEgUfL2
It's less than a mile from where I used to live, but I didn't get a chance 
to ride down there. It's still close by. I'll snap a photo when I do make 
it.

I'm looking forward to getting this bubbe set up more appropriately for the 
trail and giving a good report on how it does.

Paul

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 10:28:18 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> FWIW, I've found in the past that blue Loctite on the cradle stops the 
> slipping; I used it successfully twice, once on the cradle of a Ritchey 
> seatpost with considerable setback, and once on the slightly undersized 
> shaft of a Syncros titanium post that slipped down the seat tube at the 
> rate of about 1/2" per mile on one of my Rivs.
>
> I'll be interested to hear from other owners of Rivendell "cruisers" how 
> they do on more technical trails, appropriately built. I don't mean the 
> really steep, rocky/rooty stuff for which a real mountain bike is needed, 
> but nice winding and hilly paths like those in Paul's photos. It seems that 
> some of these bikes would be ideal for such riding, minus the very wide, 
> sweepback bars.
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Paul Clifton  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the tip. Torque-ing didn't work. I have a couple 2 bolt posts, 
>> but they aren't the right diameter. I'll see what I can come up with. I 
>> kinda like the look of the Thomson angled posts. I might even try one in 
>> black if I can find it for the right price. The S65 doesn't even have any 
>> knurling to keep it from tipping back. Seems like it should.
>>
>> It's fun rediscovering mountain biking around here. Finally having a bike 
>> that can handle it with just a tire swap will make that easier to do.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:53:00 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>>
>>> Congrats on the bike!  Glad you're giving it a chance to show its 
>>> "burly" side.
>>>
>>> You can try torque-ing down the saddle clamp bolt to prevent it from 
>>> shifting.
>>>
>>> But, any two-bolt seatpost will clamp more securely than the Nitto S65 
>>> Crystal Fellow (or clone) you're using.  
>>> The Nitto S83 or lugged S84 are the Riv-supplied solutions.  I also see 
>>> two-bolt posts in silver from Ritchey, Deda, and others.  
>>> I like the clamp head on Thomson posts, but they only come in straight 
>>> (not enough setback with a Brooks) or angled (proper setback, weird 
>>> looks).  Soma's Zero post has the same problem (lack of setback).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Paul Clifton  
>>> wrote:


> Any suggestions for a seat post that will keep my saddle from tilting 
> back when I bounce around on it?
>
> Paul in ATL
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[DarinM]

They will not be an issue but will be a little less than ideal. I rode RTPs on 
17mm inner rims and they were great but pretty floppy at low pressure.

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[RBW] Re: New cockpit change: Albatross to MAP/Ahearne

[blakcloud]

Ron, that was my thought also. With the super long top tube, I thought it 
might be overkill so I have a 100 mm stem just in case. The thing is the 
MAP/Ahearne bars come back a lot farther than I thought. Today will be my 
first real ride with them. 

On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 8:13:07 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I didn't think that would work with the long stem, but the reach looks 
> perfect
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Gavin]

And I should have added my own experience: 60 mm Super Motos and 54 mm
Thunder Burts on 17 mm internal rims, no problems in ~2000 miles of
gravel.


On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Paul Clifton  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> I've run 48mm and 58 mm (2.3") tires on my Atlas rims without any problems.
>
> Paul
>
> On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 12:58:39 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>
>>
>> I just looked it up.  I think this is the right ones.
>> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559
>>
>> If so, inside width is 19.8mm with max optimal tire width of 45mm, quite
>> a bit narrower than the RTP.  Hmmm.  Will the extra width of the RTP be an
>> issue with these rims?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Tim Butterfield 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know the rims are Atlas, but don’t know the width or have a caliper to
>>> measure.   With the multiple confirmations, I will be getting the RTP EL
>>> tires instead of the other two I had mentioned.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM Rod Holland  wrote:
>>>
 Tim,

 I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a
 26"-wheeled LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at
 53mm (2.08") on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims
 you'll be wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior
 measure of 22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You
 really might want to give them at try, if they're what you're really
 looking for. Of the two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the Naches
 Pass EL over the McClure. The McClure is the last of the "Compassela"
 tires, good as far as they go, but just not as supple as any of the EL
 variants.

 rod


 On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>
> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It
> doesn't currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  
> I'd
> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
> rainy rides.
>
> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Paul Clifton]

Tim,

I've run 48mm and 58 mm (2.3") tires on my Atlas rims without any problems.

Paul

On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 12:58:39 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
>
> I just looked it up.  I think this is the right ones.
> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559
>
> If so, inside width is 19.8mm with max optimal tire width of 45mm, quite a 
> bit narrower than the RTP.  Hmmm.  Will the extra width of the RTP be an 
> issue with these rims?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Tim Butterfield  > wrote:
>
>> I know the rims are Atlas, but don’t know the width or have a caliper to 
>> measure.   With the multiple confirmations, I will be getting the RTP EL 
>> tires instead of the other two I had mentioned.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM Rod Holland > > wrote:
>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a 
>>> 26"-wheeled LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at 
>>> 53mm (2.08") on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims 
>>> you'll be wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior 
>>> measure of 22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You 
>>> really might want to give them at try, if they're what you're really 
>>> looking for. Of the two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the Naches 
>>> Pass EL over the McClure. The McClure is the last of the "Compassela" 
>>> tires, good as far as they go, but just not as supple as any of the EL 
>>> variants. 
>>>
>>> rod 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:

 I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to 
 have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass 
 would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and 
 definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.

 Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
 currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd 
 probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of 
 the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require 
 rainy rides.

 What would your recommendations be for this tire?

 Thanks.

 Tim

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Re: [RBW] Has anyone attached a saddlesack to a front rack?

[Belopsky]

I don't really need to access it while riding, more for transport. The bag that 
MASH sells seems great and "only" 
$100.. https://shop.mashsf.com/ile-x-mash-rack-bag.html

Dave, I bought a Santa Cruz Chameleon

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>
> Yep, I've seen folks using the saddle loop straps to attach to a handle 
> bar.  Then you just need something to keep the bag away from the head tube 
> and tire.  Surly's platform rack looks good.
>
> However, I think a randonneur or porteur style front bag would be more 
> useful (in the long run), just because it's designed for access while 
> riding.  The flap of the saddlesack will open away from you.
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 6:25 AM, Belopsky  > wrote:
>
>> I am assuming it'll be fine.
>> I have this rack coming for my Surly and seems like the Saddlesack will 
>> fit
>>
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Re: [RBW] Your favorite Rivendell?

[Bruce Herbitter]

The lower top tube let’s me stand over a 54.5 frame instead of the usual 50 cm 
that a 700 wheel would require. Much better geometry.  Tim is right about the 
handling.  


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 7, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Tim Gavin  wrote:
> 
> Rich-
> 
> Like Bruce, I converted my 97 Road Standard to 650b.  650x38 (max width I can 
> fit in the rear) does not fully compensate for 700 x 25.  (622 + 25 + 25)/2 = 
> 336.  (584 + 38 + 38)/2 = 330.  So, a 650x38 wheel will lower the frame 6 mm 
> compared to a 700x25 wheel.  A 650x44 tire would compensate perfectly, but 
> the Riv Road frame won't fit wider than a 38.
> 
> Since the Riv Road has 80 mm of BB drop to begin with, it does have problems 
> with the low BB; pedal strike is always a danger.  But the benefit of an 
> ultra-low BB is very, very good handling (and low standover).
> 
> I'm just very conscious of where my pedals are--a very useful skill in 
> mountain biking (which I do on other bikes).  
> 
>> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 8:06 PM, R Shannon  wrote:
>> Bruce,
>> 
>> Interesting your Riv Road Standard works with 650b wheels. Low bb and no 
>> pedal strike? Maybe the 38 size tires compensate?
>> 
>> Thank you very much,
>> Richard
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On May 3, 2018, at 10:45 PM, Fullylugged  wrote:
>> > 
>> > From MOJO's post
>> > "The Road Standard has a unique quality that is indescribable. It 
>> > disappears underneath me. It accelerates well, carries light loads well, 
>> > handles superbly, has no toe overlap. I attribute this to Grant's design 
>> > for my body and riding style. It is my only bike with caliper brakes. The 
>> > Road Standard is my favorite Rivendell bike."
>> > 
>> > I had and sold a Saluki, and still have a Rambouillet to go with my 95 
>> > Road (a pre-production sample actually, with level top tube and different 
>> > dropouts. Same lugs and tubes) I agree that the Road has a super ride and 
>> > feel. The Reynolds 753, low BB, long stays and Waterford steering all add 
>> > up to a great ride. Mine is a 650B conversion that I did to fit 38s which 
>> > add to the ride quality. It is my favorite,  The Ram is a lovely bike and 
>> > great ride too. It's not as lively as the Road and handles more neutrally. 
>> > The Saluki was like this also.  I am liking the Ram more these days with 
>> > upside down mustache bars and an upright posture. It was always nice, now 
>> > nicer.
>> > 
>> > But I vote for the Road.  I like GP's early designs, through Glorius & 
>> > Wilbury best.
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Shoji Takahashi]

I just checked and have 36-39, but I'm missing 40.

Thanks,
Shoji


On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 9:32:02 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
> Hi Reed,
> I have them. I will DM you to add them to the archive.
>
> Thanks,
> Shoji
> Arlington MA
>
> On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 4:32:44 PM UTC-4, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> Heard back from Grant, and it sounds like he's fine with it! Here's what 
>> I've got:
>> http://notfine.com/rivreader/
>>
>> Includes RR 12 - 35 from CDs I picked up at RBW HQ a while back, 1-11 
>> that Jim just posted, and 41-43 from when Riv made them available on the 
>> web a while back.
>>
>> Anyone have digital copies of 36 - 40 or 44? I'd be happy to add them and 
>> complete that collection.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed
>>
>> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:47 PM, Cyclofiend Jim  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Probably a more well thought-out consideration... 
>>>
>>> I'd ask him again. Though if he catches this thread and wants to comment 
>>> here, that would be good.  
>>>
>>> There were those cork (?) flash drives which had the pdf's.  Though 
>>> since I had a stack of the print versions, I never thought to buy one.  
>>>
>>> If you get the OK, let me know - be happy to land those in the same 
>>> folder for now and host the archive. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 4:42:22 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:

 Hey Jim,

 I have numbers 12 through 35 as PDFs. I’ve been hoping to share them, 
 but didn’t feel great about doing so without Grant’s permission. I emailed 
 him to ask a while ago, but never heard back. (No surprise, he’s busy!)

 I’m torn. I’d love to help out and make all these great stories and 
 useful information available, but I’m not really sure they’re mine to 
 give... Thoughts?


 Best,
 Reed

 On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:27 PM Cyclofiend Jim  
 wrote:

> There was a query yonder on the FB about specific editions of the 
> Rivendell Readers. (They were requesting RR#10, RR#41 and RR#42).  
>
> Turns out that the latter two had been uploaded to a Cyclofiend.com 
> archive folder.  Toward the end of the Reader run, they would make a PDF 
> version of the readers available in addition to the print version. And I 
> stashed these two here - 
>
> RR#42 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR42_web.pdf
>
> RR#41 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR41_web.pdf
>
> As i was searching to see if there were more of these around, I came 
> across the references and a thread to the sethdot.org project to set 
> up a Reader archive. I have to say that saddened me a bit, as I realized 
> how long it had been since Seth Vidal left us way too soon. Sigh. He was 
> quality guy who I am sad to say I never got to meet in person. 
>
> Since my own collection of early Readers had been a bit sporadic (I 
> had enjoyed the first ones via copies borrowed from someone else, since 
> returned), I had bought the first CD of Readers way back when.  This 
> included RR#'s 1 through 11.  (Yes, it went up to 11...) Since 
> surprisingly 
> fewer computers these days even can swallow CD's, I thought it prudent to 
> copy these to a dropbox folder, which should be accessible via this link 
> for now - 
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5f0hbf4i5e5n2dq/II0rxQi1lpzCCiU5JbeAa?dl=0
>
> I'll add to this thread as more items are unearthed.
>
> - Jim
>
> cyclo...@gmail.com / cyclofiend.com
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Your favorite Rivendell?

[R Shannon]

Tim:

Thank you very much for your helpful and detailed reply. 

Have a good day!
Richard 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 7, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Tim Gavin  wrote:
> 
> Rich-
> 
> Like Bruce, I converted my 97 Road Standard to 650b.  650x38 (max width I can 
> fit in the rear) does not fully compensate for 700 x 25.  (622 + 25 + 25)/2 = 
> 336.  (584 + 38 + 38)/2 = 330.  So, a 650x38 wheel will lower the frame 6 mm 
> compared to a 700x25 wheel.  A 650x44 tire would compensate perfectly, but 
> the Riv Road frame won't fit wider than a 38.
> 
> Since the Riv Road has 80 mm of BB drop to begin with, it does have problems 
> with the low BB; pedal strike is always a danger.  But the benefit of an 
> ultra-low BB is very, very good handling (and low standover).
> 
> I'm just very conscious of where my pedals are--a very useful skill in 
> mountain biking (which I do on other bikes).  
> 
>> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 8:06 PM, R Shannon  wrote:
>> Bruce,
>> 
>> Interesting your Riv Road Standard works with 650b wheels. Low bb and no 
>> pedal strike? Maybe the 38 size tires compensate?
>> 
>> Thank you very much,
>> Richard
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On May 3, 2018, at 10:45 PM, Fullylugged  wrote:
>> > 
>> > From MOJO's post
>> > "The Road Standard has a unique quality that is indescribable. It 
>> > disappears underneath me. It accelerates well, carries light loads well, 
>> > handles superbly, has no toe overlap. I attribute this to Grant's design 
>> > for my body and riding style. It is my only bike with caliper brakes. The 
>> > Road Standard is my favorite Rivendell bike."
>> > 
>> > I had and sold a Saluki, and still have a Rambouillet to go with my 95 
>> > Road (a pre-production sample actually, with level top tube and different 
>> > dropouts. Same lugs and tubes) I agree that the Road has a super ride and 
>> > feel. The Reynolds 753, low BB, long stays and Waterford steering all add 
>> > up to a great ride. Mine is a 650B conversion that I did to fit 38s which 
>> > add to the ride quality. It is my favorite,  The Ram is a lovely bike and 
>> > great ride too. It's not as lively as the Road and handles more neutrally. 
>> > The Saluki was like this also.  I am liking the Ram more these days with 
>> > upside down mustache bars and an upright posture. It was always nice, now 
>> > nicer.
>> > 
>> > But I vote for the Road.  I like GP's early designs, through Glorius & 
>> > Wilbury best.
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Shoji Takahashi]

Hi Reed,
I have them. I will DM you to add them to the archive.

Thanks,
Shoji
Arlington MA

On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 4:32:44 PM UTC-4, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> Heard back from Grant, and it sounds like he's fine with it! Here's what 
> I've got:
> http://notfine.com/rivreader/
>
> Includes RR 12 - 35 from CDs I picked up at RBW HQ a while back, 1-11 that 
> Jim just posted, and 41-43 from when Riv made them available on the web a 
> while back.
>
> Anyone have digital copies of 36 - 40 or 44? I'd be happy to add them and 
> complete that collection.
>
>
> Best,
> Reed
>
> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:47 PM, Cyclofiend Jim  > wrote:
>
>> Probably a more well thought-out consideration... 
>>
>> I'd ask him again. Though if he catches this thread and wants to comment 
>> here, that would be good.  
>>
>> There were those cork (?) flash drives which had the pdf's.  Though since 
>> I had a stack of the print versions, I never thought to buy one.  
>>
>> If you get the OK, let me know - be happy to land those in the same 
>> folder for now and host the archive. 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 4:42:22 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Jim,
>>>
>>> I have numbers 12 through 35 as PDFs. I’ve been hoping to share them, 
>>> but didn’t feel great about doing so without Grant’s permission. I emailed 
>>> him to ask a while ago, but never heard back. (No surprise, he’s busy!)
>>>
>>> I’m torn. I’d love to help out and make all these great stories and 
>>> useful information available, but I’m not really sure they’re mine to 
>>> give... Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Reed
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:27 PM Cyclofiend Jim >> > wrote:
>>>
 There was a query yonder on the FB about specific editions of the 
 Rivendell Readers. (They were requesting RR#10, RR#41 and RR#42).  

 Turns out that the latter two had been uploaded to a Cyclofiend.com 
 archive folder.  Toward the end of the Reader run, they would make a PDF 
 version of the readers available in addition to the print version. And I 
 stashed these two here - 

 RR#42 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR42_web.pdf

 RR#41 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR41_web.pdf

 As i was searching to see if there were more of these around, I came 
 across the references and a thread to the sethdot.org project to set 
 up a Reader archive. I have to say that saddened me a bit, as I realized 
 how long it had been since Seth Vidal left us way too soon. Sigh. He was 
 quality guy who I am sad to say I never got to meet in person. 

 Since my own collection of early Readers had been a bit sporadic (I had 
 enjoyed the first ones via copies borrowed from someone else, since 
 returned), I had bought the first CD of Readers way back when.  This 
 included RR#'s 1 through 11.  (Yes, it went up to 11...) Since 
 surprisingly 
 fewer computers these days even can swallow CD's, I thought it prudent to 
 copy these to a dropbox folder, which should be accessible via this link 
 for now - 


 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5f0hbf4i5e5n2dq/II0rxQi1lpzCCiU5JbeAa?dl=0

 I'll add to this thread as more items are unearthed.

 - Jim

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Re: [RBW] Your favorite Rivendell?

[Tim Gavin]

Rich-

Like Bruce, I converted my 97 Road Standard to 650b.  650x38 (max width I
can fit in the rear) does not fully compensate for 700 x 25.  (622 + 25 +
25)/2 = 336.  (584 + 38 + 38)/2 = 330.  So, a 650x38 wheel will lower the
frame 6 mm compared to a 700x25 wheel.  A 650x44 tire would compensate
perfectly, but the Riv Road frame won't fit wider than a 38.

Since the Riv Road has 80 mm of BB drop to begin with, it does have
problems with the low BB; pedal strike is always a danger.  But the benefit
of an ultra-low BB is very, very good handling (and low standover).

I'm just very conscious of where my pedals are--a very useful skill in
mountain biking (which I do on other bikes).

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 8:06 PM, R Shannon  wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> Interesting your Riv Road Standard works with 650b wheels. Low bb and no
> pedal strike? Maybe the 38 size tires compensate?
>
> Thank you very much,
> Richard
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 3, 2018, at 10:45 PM, Fullylugged 
> wrote:
> >
> > From MOJO's post
> > "The Road Standard has a unique quality that is indescribable. It
> disappears underneath me. It accelerates well, carries light loads well,
> handles superbly, has no toe overlap. I attribute this to Grant's design
> for my body and riding style. It is my only bike with caliper brakes. The
> Road Standard is my favorite Rivendell bike."
> >
> > I had and sold a Saluki, and still have a Rambouillet to go with my 95
> Road (a pre-production sample actually, with level top tube and different
> dropouts. Same lugs and tubes) I agree that the Road has a super ride and
> feel. The Reynolds 753, low BB, long stays and Waterford steering all add
> up to a great ride. Mine is a 650B conversion that I did to fit 38s which
> add to the ride quality. It is my favorite,  The Ram is a lovely bike and
> great ride too. It's not as lively as the Road and handles more neutrally.
> The Saluki was like this also.  I am liking the Ram more these days with
> upside down mustache bars and an upright posture. It was always nice, now
> nicer.
> >
> > But I vote for the Road.  I like GP's early designs, through Glorius &
> Wilbury best.
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[RBW] Re: Has anyone attached a saddlesack to a front rack?

[Dave Grossman]

What did you end up buying as an MTB?

On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 6:25:01 AM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote:
>
> I am assuming it'll be fine.
> I have this rack coming for my Surly and seems like the Saddlesack will fit
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Gavin]

Tim-

St. Sheldon's dogma is pretty conservative in the regard of "proper tire
width for a given rim width".
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
(Width Considerations chart is the red/green one most of the way down the
page)

However, many folks have ridden many millions of miles on 2" (54 mm) tires
on 17 mm internal rims -- because that was pretty much all there were at
the dawn of MTB/ATB/Trekking bikes.

The risk with a too-wide tire is the same as that of an under-inflated
tire: risk of the tire folding over when turning aggressively.
Keep your PSI above ~25 and you shouldn't have that problem with RTPs on an
Atlas rim.

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 11:58 PM, Tim Butterfield 
wrote:

>
> I just looked it up.  I think this is the right ones.
> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559
>
> If so, inside width is 19.8mm with max optimal tire width of 45mm, quite a
> bit narrower than the RTP.  Hmmm.  Will the extra width of the RTP be an
> issue with these rims?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Tim Butterfield 
> wrote:
>
>> I know the rims are Atlas, but don’t know the width or have a caliper to
>> measure.   With the multiple confirmations, I will be getting the RTP EL
>> tires instead of the other two I had mentioned.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM Rod Holland 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a
>>> 26"-wheeled LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at
>>> 53mm (2.08") on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims
>>> you'll be wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior
>>> measure of 22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You
>>> really might want to give them at try, if they're what you're really
>>> looking for. Of the two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the Naches
>>> Pass EL over the McClure. The McClure is the last of the "Compassela"
>>> tires, good as far as they go, but just not as supple as any of the EL
>>> variants.
>>>
>>> rod
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:

 I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
 have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
 would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
 definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.

 Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't
 currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd
 probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
 the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
 rainy rides.

 What would your recommendations be for this tire?

 Thanks.

 Tim

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Re: [RBW] Has anyone attached a saddlesack to a front rack?

[Tim Gavin]

Yep, I've seen folks using the saddle loop straps to attach to a handle
bar.  Then you just need something to keep the bag away from the head tube
and tire.  Surly's platform rack looks good.

However, I think a randonneur or porteur style front bag would be more
useful (in the long run), just because it's designed for access while
riding.  The flap of the saddlesack will open away from you.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 6:25 AM, Belopsky  wrote:

> I am assuming it'll be fine.
> I have this rack coming for my Surly and seems like the Saddlesack will fit
>
> https://shop.mashsf.com/mash-front-rack.html
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[RBW] Re: New cockpit change: Albatross to MAP/Ahearne

[Ron Mc]

I didn't think that would work with the long stem, but the reach looks 
perfect

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[RBW] Re: Rivs with the Jones Loop/Bend H-Bar (Map/Ahearne too)

[Lester Lammers]

Bars are a very personal thing. What frame do you have?

On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 4:18:38 AM UTC-4, Tim O. (Portland, OR) 
wrote:
>
> Hey, Y'all-
>
> I got ants in my pants for some new handlebars. I've been riding the 
> Albatross bars since last spring and I love the upright riding position. 
> Plus, they're gorgeous/comfy. Although, ever since I've got them I wished 
> they were wider. Probably didn't help that I was riding the Bullmoose bars 
> before them or that I have wide shoulders. The Albatross performed well 
> some long rides and varied terrain,but I wish I could get out of the saddle 
> more comfortably. 
>
> Anyway, now that VO has their quill stem with 31.8 clamp, I'm considering 
> the Jones H-bar. I'm thinking of the loop or the bend in 710mm. My biggest 
> hesitation is that I think they look kind of funny! I hate to write that 
> out loud, but it's true. The shape and the 31.8 clamp seem like they could 
> clash on a Riv set up. I thought the Map/Ahearne bars would be a good 
> solution, but they hand position wouldn't really be wider that the 
> Albatross. 
>
> Anyone have the Jones loop or bend on their Riv that would be willing to 
> sharing photos/experiences? Convince me to stop putting fashion over 
> function? Or maybe you're Jones h-bar/Riv set up is gorgeous AND functional?
>
> Anyone want to convince me the Map/Ahearne bar is the way to go? Would the 
> angle of the hand position be enough to solve the issue even though they 
> aren't much wider?
>
> Thanks! 
> Tim
> Portland, OR
>
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[RBW] Has anyone attached a saddlesack to a front rack?

[Belopsky]

I am assuming it'll be fine.
I have this rack coming for my Surly and seems like the Saddlesack will fit

https://shop.mashsf.com/mash-front-rack.html

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[RBW] Re: FS: wheelset from Clem Smith L

[Belopsky]

UP

On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>
> BUMP while I have a wheelbox to ship these in :)
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Tim Bantham]

Thanks for posting these. I spent my Sunday evening reading #41 and #42. A 
wonderful read!

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Re: [RBW] Length of Quickbeam/SimpleOne track ends?

[Corwin]

40/32 x 18 may indeed be the platonic ideal for the Quickbeam.

However, my Quickbeam shipped with 40/32 x 22.

Thanks,


Corwin

On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 10:02:53 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> Yes. 40/32x18 is the platonic ideal of QB gearing. 
>
> Two chainrings let me run 44/39x17/21 and fenders and 38mm tires. 
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
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