Re: [RBW] 59 650b Hunqapillar-New F/F/HS/BB Day

[Stephen W.]

James,
   Thank you. Lol...I've watched that video about 50 times over the last two 
years...makes me wanna ride there every time I watch it. And, the 
double-non-diagatube-top-tube looks great!

Stephen 

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Re: [RBW] 59 650b Hunqapillar-New F/F/HS/BB Day

[James Warren]

Perfection! Congratulations! What a great photo!

In honor of the occasion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VR4KaDeAuI=35s 




> On Jul 12, 2018, at 6:25 PM, Stephen W.  wrote:
> 
> My 59 650b Hunqapillar arrived last Saturday. It was built up in a hurry with 
> the bits off my 56 Hunq and hit the trails as soon as possible. I strongly 
> feel that I've finally found a "forever bike". The increased 
> stand-over(86.5ish)+less stem showing+less seat post showing is exactly what 
> I was shootin' for. Also, to my surprise, it showed up sportin' the new 
> ball-and-socket seat lug. The new 59 Hunq rides like a dream and looks 
> flippin' spectacular.
> 
> Stephen Webster  
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[RBW] 59 650b Hunqapillar-New F/F/HS/BB Day

[Stephen W.]

Mr. Pondero,
  Exactamundo. It. just. feels. right. I "rolled" the dice and it worked 
out as I had hoped...otherwise I would have had a brand new 59 frame to sell. 
And a fine fella got himself a 56 Hunq outta the deal!

Best,

Stephen 

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[RBW] 59 650b Hunqapillar-New F/F/HS/BB Day

[Stephen W.]

Erl,
   I'll do my best to throw a few pics on IG. ;)

Stephen

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[RBW] 59 650b Hunqapillar-New F/F/HS/BB Day

[Stephen W.]

I wasn't gonna live a Hunq-less life. 

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[RBW] 59 650b Hunqapillar-New F/F/HS/BB Day

[Pondero]

Not too hard...not too soft...just right!

Chris Johnson
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[RBW] Re: 51cm Appaloosa frame for sale

[Ryan Merrill]

I contacted you privately through this group, Doug. If that doesn't come 
through you can reach me at ryan dot merrill at usbank dot com. Thanks.

On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 8:25:27 PM UTC-5, Doug H. wrote:
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> Doh! I did not realize that. Thanks Joe. 

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[RBW] 59 650b Hunqapillar-New F/F/HS/BB Day

[WETH]

That is perfect! I look forward to seeing many photos on Instagram of your 
adventures with this bike.
Erl

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[RBW] 59 650b Hunqapillar-New F/F/HS/BB Day

[John G.]

That bike looks like it just FITS. I saw your old Hunq for sale on Instagram, 
and got worried! Glad to see you are still stomping trails on a Hunq!

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[RBW] FS Rivendell Ram - Posting for a friend

[ctifusion]

Beautiful bike and a good deal.

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[RBW] 51cm Appaloosa frame for sale

[Doug H.]

Doh! I did not realize that. Thanks Joe. 

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[RBW] 51cm Appaloosa frame for sale

[Joe Bernard]

You gotta break up the address or it won't show the whole thing on Google 
Groups. Like thus: dhansford1967 at gmail dot com

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[RBW] 51cm Appaloosa frame for sale

[Doug H.]

Could you email me dhansford1...@gmail.com ? I can’t private message on my 
iPhone. 
Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I am about 150 lbs and think that the AHH that I have rides well with about
30 lbs of gear on my rear rack. If the Atlantis is a bit more stout than
the AHH, then I would lean toward an AHH or the Hillborne for you, since
you are about 25 lbs lighter than me.

I am favoring the Hillborne for gravel riding because it seems to handle a
little more tire clearance compared to the AHH.  I've ridden my AHH on
single-track and it rides fine, but if I had a load, then I might want
wider tires.

I think the Sam Hillborne seems like an ideal "one bike".

Toshi

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[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[Surlyprof]

Sean,

You may be on to something with 650b depending on what frame size you ride.  
I’m 5’10” and 162ish.  I ride an older 56 canti-Hillborne and love it.  It has 
the wonderful spritely ride that everyone identified.  The only issues that 
have raised desires for n+1 are (1) the desire to ride tires fatter than 45mm 
Smart Sams and (2) the desire to have 650b wheels and tires.  I think Riv 
started to really nail the proportional wheels to frames on the Clem with the 
52 (my size) having 650b tires.  I found 650b to be a great feel on trails 
given my size.  Clem, the new Atlantis and the 650b Hunq really felt great to 
me but not enough to justify ditching my Sam.  I’ve camped with the Hillborne 
and would be willing to try a short tour on it.  

That said, I have been considering a dedicated trail bike which, for me, would 
have to be 650b.  If I ever get to go there, I’d keep the lighter wheelset and 
Compass BP Els on the Hillborne and build the trail bike up for all my camping, 
touring and trail riding needs.  My ideal scenario would be a Roadini or Roadeo 
for roads and a 650b Hunq or MIT Atlantis for everything else.  I don’t see 
that as an affordable option and, even if I could swing it, I’d really struggle 
to give up my Sam.  The Hillborne has been the best bike I’ve ever had the 
pleasure of owning and I hope to always have it around to ride.

That’s my 2 cents...
John

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[RBW] FS 61cm Roadeo

[Kelly]

Selling this as my wife doesn't ride it anymore.   No kickstand, Dyno, 
racks etc.She rides her Betty Foy and Tours on her Atlantis. 


Firm price is 2500 for entire bike less saddle and pedals. 
2000 frame only with bottom bracket and headset.   


You can see it here.   

https://www.kickstandphoto.com/Other/Rodeo/

Thanks 

Kelly
314-799-4743

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[RBW] Re: 51cm Appaloosa frame for sale

[Doug H.]

I’m really considering buying it. It would be my first bike build but would be 
fun. 

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[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I don't have one, so can only speculate, but Sam Hillbornes are supposedly 
somewhere in between the Homer and the Atlantis on the stoutness scale. Now 
that they're offered with canti/V brake posts, they supposedly clear 48mm 
tires too. They also build up great as touring, trail, or road bikes.

I feel you on the featherweight thing. I'm between 5' 11" and 6 feet, at 
about 140 pounds or less. Most bikes my size these days are way sturdier 
than I need, even loaded. I wonder what people take with them touring. I've 
never brought more than 30 pounds, even in the mountains for 5 days. I 
guess cans of beer add up pretty quick!

Both my bikes are standard diameter tubing. A 1983 Trek 520, with 
.09/.06/.09 Reynolds 501 tubing, and a 1987 Trek Antelope with Tange 
unbutted .09 tubing. They feel pretty right to me, and I like the look of 
skinny tubes too.

Eamon
Seattle

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[RBW] Re: 51cm Appaloosa frame for sale

[Joe Bernard]

That's a good deal, Doug. I had one (same size) and sold it in a pique of cash 
flow deficit. I miss that bike. 

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[RBW] Re: 51cm Appaloosa frame for sale

[Ryan Merrill]

Yes, frame, fork, headset...same way you would get it from Rivendell. 

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[RBW] Re: 51cm Appaloosa frame for sale

[Doug H.]

I assume it comes with frame, fork, headset? Bottom bracket?
Doug

On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 4:28:15 PM UTC-4, Ryan Merrill wrote:

> I have a brand new 51 cm Rivendell Appaloosa frameset (grilver color) in 
> the box, never unpacked, never built up, never molested in any way that I 
> need to sell. My wife decided she doesn’t want a new bike after I bought 
> this for her, so I have no use for it anymore. My loss, your gain, I guess. 
> I’m selling it for $1150 shipped, so save yourself taxes, shipping, and a 
> hundred an fifty bucks off one from Rivendell. 
>
> If you send me an email on this could you reply here too; I think my email 
> from this list is getting thrown to junk mail.  Thanks. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 54 Hunqapillar Frameset & 58 Black Mtn Cycles Frameset (plus complete build options)

[Karl]

The new owner is in if there is a #HuskyMonth #HunksOnHunqs

Karl (Hunqin It Up Soon) Worley
Nashville, TN

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[RBW] 51cm Appaloosa frame for sale

[Ryan Merrill]

I have a brand new 51 cm Rivendell Appaloosa frameset (grilver color) in the 
box, never unpacked, never built up, never molested in any way that I need to 
sell. My wife decided she doesn’t want a new bike after I bought this for her, 
so I have no use for it anymore. My loss, your gain, I guess. I’m selling it 
for $1150 shipped, so save yourself taxes, shipping, and a hundred an fifty 
bucks off one from Rivendell. 

If you send me an email on this could you reply here too; I think my email from 
this list is getting thrown to junk mail.  Thanks. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Clearing out my stuff - Nitto, IRD, Dia Compe, PDW, VP, SRAM, Sunrace, Microshift, Wolftooth

[phil k]

all sold thanks!

On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 11:52:42 AM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>
> IRD brake levers are the only item left. Price dropped to $80 shipped.
>
> On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 1:45:34 PM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>>
>> Update on what's left & price drops:
>>
>> *Shifters & Brake Stuff*
>>
>> IRD Ratchet Brake Lever (pair) 
>> , brand new (actual pic 
>> ) - 
>> $85 shipped
>>
>> *Handlebar & Stem Stuff*
>>
>> PDW Whiskey grips, brown, pair 
>> , 
>> new - $45 shipped
>>
>> *Drivetrain Stuff*
>>
>> Microshift R10 short cage 
>>  - 
>> $20 shipped
>>
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Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[Garth]

 You're very welcome Rich !

Life is Good :) 



On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 1:55:33 PM UTC-4, RichS wrote:
>
> Garth,
>
> You’ve just described my childhood.
>
> Many thanks,
> Rich
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 12, 2018, at 1:43 PM, Garth > 
> wrote:
>
> "Way back when"  I and everyone else rode whatever you had. You didn't 
> need anything "special" then, nor do you now.  as a teen, I toured on a 
> middle of the road Trek 6something. The rims were probably narrow Rigidas 
> and I rode Specialized Touring Turbos in either 27 x 1-1/8 or 1-1/4. The 
> crank I believe was an SR double with 40/52 rings and a 6 speed 13-28 FW.  
> I never once thought of changing one damn thing.  Riding the big ass hills 
> of the Mississippi river was no problem loaded with panniers, tent and 
> sleeping bag. My buddy I rode with brought along his "portable" tape 
> recorder, yea, the big ass things that took D batteries, and we rocked out 
> along the way. 
>
>
> My neighbors rode their Treks from Rochester to Door Co. Wisconsin every 
> summer, no panniers, just backpacks yes backpacks. Worked for them 
> ... back when everyone(men *and* women *and *kids) was strong and tough 
> as F'n nails, not like whiny "I gotta have this that and the other to help 
> me" nonsense you see today. Kids played outside, rode their bikes around 
> town, we played "touch" football every Sunday after or before Vikings 
> games. "Touch" wasn't very polite or touchy, I tell you that , ha ha :) 
>
> We played outside in the ice 'f'n cold MN winter, walked here and there 
> and everywhere. Played boot hockey, skitched behind cars when it snowed and 
> threw snowballs at them. We had tomato fights in people gardens at night 
> and watched horror movies on TV 'tll the channel went off the air. Yes, 
> stations used to sign off, "see ya later folks, go to f'n bed cuz all we're 
> gonna do is emit this annoying tone all night long."
>
> Oh yeah  Gatorade came in bottles, as in GLASS bottles, and it was 
> fantastic.  Pop and beer came in "returnables" , a case of 24 reusable and 
> returnable bottle of which you paid a minimal deposit for and got back upon 
> return of the bottles. The bottles were cleaned at the bottler and refilled 
> and sold again. Everything tasted great out of returnables , it just did 
> and there is no use trying to explain it. . On weekends I'd go with my Dad 
> to get gas @ Earls one man service station, back when they really were 
> service stations. He had a glass door pop machine that didn't take money, 
> you paid Earl of course, who else is there, duh ?  On his chest freezer 
> with ice cream sandwiches was a kids dream. Gasoline, pop and ice cream 
> sandwiches  all the basics covered . Oh, and KFC down the street too 
> was a treat. Back when chicken was chicken, and what they didn't sell real 
> people hand picked the meat off the bones and made sandwiches covered in 
> home made gravy to sell the next day. 
>
>
> ah well . . . .   way back when  when everything was fresh and new and 
> special. Going out to eat was a REAL TREAT and infrequent. You could go to 
> any airport and run around and look at all the planes without assuming 
> you're a criminal for being born. Flying was a big deal, people wore nice 
> clothes and were polite. 
>
> Sorry for running about and all  stuff happens . 
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Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[R Shannon]

Garth,

You’ve just described my childhood.

Many thanks,
Rich

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2018, at 1:43 PM, Garth  wrote:
> 
> "Way back when"  I and everyone else rode whatever you had. You didn't need 
> anything "special" then, nor do you now.  as a teen, I toured on a middle of 
> the road Trek 6something. The rims were probably narrow Rigidas and I rode 
> Specialized Touring Turbos in either 27 x 1-1/8 or 1-1/4. The crank I believe 
> was an SR double with 40/52 rings and a 6 speed 13-28 FW.  I never once 
> thought of changing one damn thing.  Riding the big ass hills of the 
> Mississippi river was no problem loaded with panniers, tent and sleeping bag. 
> My buddy I rode with brought along his "portable" tape recorder, yea, the big 
> ass things that took D batteries, and we rocked out along the way. 
> 
> 
> My neighbors rode their Treks from Rochester to Door Co. Wisconsin every 
> summer, no panniers, just backpacks yes backpacks. Worked for them 
> ... back when everyone(men and women and kids) was strong and tough as F'n 
> nails, not like whiny "I gotta have this that and the other to help me" 
> nonsense you see today. Kids played outside, rode their bikes around town, we 
> played "touch" football every Sunday after or before Vikings games. "Touch" 
> wasn't very polite or touchy, I tell you that , ha ha :) 
> 
> We played outside in the ice 'f'n cold MN winter, walked here and there and 
> everywhere. Played boot hockey, skitched behind cars when it snowed and threw 
> snowballs at them. We had tomato fights in people gardens at night and 
> watched horror movies on TV 'tll the channel went off the air. Yes, stations 
> used to sign off, "see ya later folks, go to f'n bed cuz all we're gonna do 
> is emit this annoying tone all night long."
> 
> Oh yeah  Gatorade came in bottles, as in GLASS bottles, and it was 
> fantastic.  Pop and beer came in "returnables" , a case of 24 reusable and 
> returnable bottle of which you paid a minimal deposit for and got back upon 
> return of the bottles. The bottles were cleaned at the bottler and refilled 
> and sold again. Everything tasted great out of returnables , it just did and 
> there is no use trying to explain it. . On weekends I'd go with my Dad to get 
> gas @ Earls one man service station, back when they really were service 
> stations. He had a glass door pop machine that didn't take money, you paid 
> Earl of course, who else is there, duh ?  On his chest freezer with ice cream 
> sandwiches was a kids dream. Gasoline, pop and ice cream sandwiches  all 
> the basics covered . Oh, and KFC down the street too was a treat. Back when 
> chicken was chicken, and what they didn't sell real people hand picked the 
> meat off the bones and made sandwiches covered in home made gravy to sell the 
> next day. 
> 
> 
> ah well . . . .   way back when  when everything was fresh and new and 
> special. Going out to eat was a REAL TREAT and infrequent. You could go to 
> any airport and run around and look at all the planes without assuming you're 
> a criminal for being born. Flying was a big deal, people wore nice clothes 
> and were polite. 
> 
> Sorry for running about and all  stuff happens . 
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Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[Garth]

"Way back when"  I and everyone else rode whatever you had. You didn't need 
anything "special" then, nor do you now.  as a teen, I toured on a middle 
of the road Trek 6something. The rims were probably narrow Rigidas and I 
rode Specialized Touring Turbos in either 27 x 1-1/8 or 1-1/4. The crank I 
believe was an SR double with 40/52 rings and a 6 speed 13-28 FW.  I never 
once thought of changing one damn thing.  Riding the big ass hills of the 
Mississippi river was no problem loaded with panniers, tent and sleeping 
bag. My buddy I rode with brought along his "portable" tape recorder, yea, 
the big ass things that took D batteries, and we rocked out along the way. 


My neighbors rode their Treks from Rochester to Door Co. Wisconsin every 
summer, no panniers, just backpacks yes backpacks. Worked for them 
... back when everyone(men *and* women *and *kids) was strong and tough as 
F'n nails, not like whiny "I gotta have this that and the other to help me" 
nonsense you see today. Kids played outside, rode their bikes around town, 
we played "touch" football every Sunday after or before Vikings games. 
"Touch" wasn't very polite or touchy, I tell you that , ha ha :) 

We played outside in the ice 'f'n cold MN winter, walked here and there and 
everywhere. Played boot hockey, skitched behind cars when it snowed and 
threw snowballs at them. We had tomato fights in people gardens at night 
and watched horror movies on TV 'tll the channel went off the air. Yes, 
stations used to sign off, "see ya later folks, go to f'n bed cuz all we're 
gonna do is emit this annoying tone all night long."

Oh yeah  Gatorade came in bottles, as in GLASS bottles, and it was 
fantastic.  Pop and beer came in "returnables" , a case of 24 reusable and 
returnable bottle of which you paid a minimal deposit for and got back upon 
return of the bottles. The bottles were cleaned at the bottler and refilled 
and sold again. Everything tasted great out of returnables , it just did 
and there is no use trying to explain it. . On weekends I'd go with my Dad 
to get gas @ Earls one man service station, back when they really were 
service stations. He had a glass door pop machine that didn't take money, 
you paid Earl of course, who else is there, duh ?  On his chest freezer 
with ice cream sandwiches was a kids dream. Gasoline, pop and ice cream 
sandwiches  all the basics covered . Oh, and KFC down the street too 
was a treat. Back when chicken was chicken, and what they didn't sell real 
people hand picked the meat off the bones and made sandwiches covered in 
home made gravy to sell the next day. 


ah well . . . .   way back when  when everything was fresh and new and 
special. Going out to eat was a REAL TREAT and infrequent. You could go to 
any airport and run around and look at all the planes without assuming 
you're a criminal for being born. Flying was a big deal, people wore nice 
clothes and were polite. 

Sorry for running about and all  stuff happens . 

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Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[RichS]

Roadeo, not the San Marcos, is the lightest Riv.
Believe my 53 Roadeo is 645 on the ends and 4 in the middle.

Best,
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[RBW] Re: FS: Clearing out my stuff - Nitto, IRD, Dia Compe, PDW, VP, SRAM, Sunrace, Microshift, Wolftooth

[phil k]

IRD brake levers are the only item left. Price dropped to $80 shipped.

On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 1:45:34 PM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>
> Update on what's left & price drops:
>
> *Shifters & Brake Stuff*
>
> IRD Ratchet Brake Lever (pair) 
> , brand new (actual pic 
> ) - 
> $85 shipped
>
> *Handlebar & Stem Stuff*
>
> PDW Whiskey grips, brown, pair 
> , 
> new - $45 shipped
>
> *Drivetrain Stuff*
>
> Microshift R10 short cage 
>  - 
> $20 shipped
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Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[phil k]

I thought they were standard diameter with thicker tubing.

On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 9:01:27 AM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> What did people tour on back in the ‘60’s and 70’s? Did they build 
> specific beefy frames for touring? Or was only standard diameter reynolds 
> tubing (I am guessing it was thin walled)  available?

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Re: [RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[Patrick Moore]

Sean: I can't add much to the discussion, but I will add that very many
Rivendell riders find that even very stoutly built Rivendells ride
"nimbly."

Anecdote: I had a stripped down, minimal braze on (1 pr of bottle cage
braze ons on dt; that's all) gofast fixie road custom made by Riv in 1999.
I thought it was very light. I took it apart and gave frame and fork to
Chauncey Matthews, local builder, for alterations. He picked f/f/hs/bb up
and said, "Huh. Not very light." He built my dirt road bike using thin
gauge heat treated tubing, even though the total bike with all
accoutrements and encumbrances weighs 30.34 lb on my digital scale.

But -- the point -- it has always, always, over almost 20 years felt nimble
and fast even compared to at least 1 lighter frame, an all-531, standard
diameter 1973 Motobecane. But I'm 175.

Another point: I hear that the Roadeo is made from quite light gauge tubing
in the sub-large sizes with butts of just .7 mm and .4 mm bellies; is this
right?

I'll be interested to hear what you end up with. BTW, that lightweight
Motobecane racing bike? Of all the many bikes I've owned, it has been the
best carrier of heavyish rear loads, with less upset to handling than even
with much stouter frames.

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Sean Steinle  wrote:

> Everything that's been said has been super helpful! Chris, your post is a
> really good direct comparison for me, because our weight is nearly
> identical. I don't prefer a rock solid feel, lively would be much more the
> ticket. I think for a bike to feel lively to me, there aren't many Rivs
> that would fit the bill. Given that I already know I like the low trail of
> my Brommie, I'm thinking something like a Rambler would be more suitable
> for me.
>
> Honestly, it's kind of funny because I've gone full circle (owning
> probably the lightest-weight "Riv" bike out there in the San Marcos) to
> wanting the stoutest (Hunq/Bomba) back to wanting lightweight tubing (the
> San Marcos that I already have!) San Marcos isn't built up though, and I
> want to go 650B, and low-trail, which the SM is neither.
>
> I'd still like to own a Riv at some point, I think if I do, it will be a
> 650b MUSA AHH, or an old Atlantis (I think they were made with lighter
> tubing than the are now??).
>
> In the meantime, anyone have a Rambler they're looking to unload? :)
>
> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 10:21:57 PM UTC-5, Pondero wrote:
>>
>> Sean, this is exactly my dilemma.  I have learned that enjoy standard
>> diameter thin wall tubed framesets because they have more of a springy,
>> energetic feel.  Others might have different preferences.  For example,
>> even with a full touring load, my Hilsen was more fun (for me) to ride than
>> my Atlantis.  If you prefer that rock solid feel over what some might call
>> noodly, you might choose the Atlantis or Hunq over the Hilsen.
>>
>> I eventually purchased an Ocean Air Cycles with standard diameter 8/5/8
>> tubing, have loaded it up with touring gear, and it is even better (for
>> me).  My weight is around 130-135.  Sometimes I don't think average or
>> larger folk uunderstand how important that difference is to us small guys.
>> But there are wonderfully lively framesets available.
>>
>> Chris Johnson
>> Sanger, Texas
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 54 Hunqapillar Frameset & 58 Black Mtn Cycles Frameset (plus complete build options)

[Irving]

Dang, looks like I'll have to you kick you out of the #hunksonhunqs 
calendar shoot

On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 8:26:41 PM UTC-7, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> hunqapillar is sold
>
> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 10:33:58 AM UTC-7, Adam Leibow wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>>
>> Listing two green framesets for sale. Both are in good *used* condition 
>> with no dents. There might be scratches here or there, but both are priced 
>> to sell and have long lives ahead of them. 
>>
>>
>> I can provide a complete build for the black mountain (w/ shimano 105 
>> 5800, paul minimotos, thomson stem & post, h plus son/5800 wheels, etc). 
>>
>> I can provide a complete build for the hunqapillar, too (w/ riv standard 
>> velocity wheels, nitto post, sugino 3x9, nitto stem, several bar options, 
>> several tire options, etc)
>>
>>
>> Prices as follows:
>>
>> Hunqapillar frame+fork+headset=$1,450 
>>
>> Black Mountain frame+fork (no headset) - $400
>>
>>
>> If you want a complete(~ish) build, text me and we can discuss what I 
>> have and pricing. 
>>
>>
>> Thanks for looking - please text me at (310) nine six three 69-59
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[Sean Steinle]

Everything that's been said has been super helpful! Chris, your post is a 
really good direct comparison for me, because our weight is nearly 
identical. I don't prefer a rock solid feel, lively would be much more the 
ticket. I think for a bike to feel lively to me, there aren't many Rivs 
that would fit the bill. Given that I already know I like the low trail of 
my Brommie, I'm thinking something like a Rambler would be more suitable 
for me. 

Honestly, it's kind of funny because I've gone full circle (owning probably 
the lightest-weight "Riv" bike out there in the San Marcos) to wanting the 
stoutest (Hunq/Bomba) back to wanting lightweight tubing (the San Marcos 
that I already have!) San Marcos isn't built up though, and I want to go 
650B, and low-trail, which the SM is neither. 

I'd still like to own a Riv at some point, I think if I do, it will be a 
650b MUSA AHH, or an old Atlantis (I think they were made with lighter 
tubing than the are now??). 

In the meantime, anyone have a Rambler they're looking to unload? :)

On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 10:21:57 PM UTC-5, Pondero wrote:
>
> Sean, this is exactly my dilemma.  I have learned that enjoy standard 
> diameter thin wall tubed framesets because they have more of a springy, 
> energetic feel.  Others might have different preferences.  For example, 
> even with a full touring load, my Hilsen was more fun (for me) to ride than 
> my Atlantis.  If you prefer that rock solid feel over what some might call 
> noodly, you might choose the Atlantis or Hunq over the Hilsen.
>
> I eventually purchased an Ocean Air Cycles with standard diameter 8/5/8 
> tubing, have loaded it up with touring gear, and it is even better (for 
> me).  My weight is around 130-135.  Sometimes I don't think average or 
> larger folk uunderstand how important that difference is to us small guys. 
>  But there are wonderfully lively framesets available.
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V5.3 Gentian Blue

[Andrew Huston]

F/F/HS $525 plus shipping, all other add ons negotiable depending on build 
etc.

On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 9:44:39 AM UTC-4, Andrew Huston wrote:
>
> So I am selling my one and only bike to make funds for a BMC disc 
> So, as stated in the title 56 BMC Monstercross rim brake edition, full 
> build or frame/fork/hs, or something in between.
> Deore V brakes
> Cane Creek headset
> Vintage specialized triple
> Deore front/rear derailleur
> I have either flat bar or drop bar options, 9 speed, salsa cowchipper or 
> salsa salt flat, thomson 90 or FSA 70mm stem
> Silver Thomson post or black FSA post
> Velocity Dyad rims on 105 hubs
> email for photos while I try to upload a few.
> Located in Michigan
> Trades you say?  Maybe.
>

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Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[lconley]

Back in the 70s I toured on my 73 Schwinn P-15 Paramount. It was (is - I 
still have it) made of a somewhat heavier than standard duty Reynolds 531 
tubing set. It was not a full on touring bike, but did have a slightly 
longer wheelbase/chainstays than the P-10 racing Paramount - more of what 
would be called a sport-tourer. I still have the full matched set of 
Kirtland Tour Pack panniers - front, rear and handlebar bag all in red.

Laing
Cocoa, FL

On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 9:01:27 AM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote:

> What did people tour on back in the ‘60’s and 70’s? Did they build 
> specific beefy frames for touring? Or was only standard diameter reynolds 
> tubing (I am guessing it was thin walled)  available?

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V5.3 Gentian Blue

[Paul Choi]

Price?

On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 6:44:39 AM UTC-7, Andrew Huston wrote:
>
> So I am selling my one and only bike to make funds for a BMC disc 
> So, as stated in the title 56 BMC Monstercross rim brake edition, full 
> build or frame/fork/hs, or something in between.
> Deore V brakes
> Cane Creek headset
> Vintage specialized triple
> Deore front/rear derailleur
> I have either flat bar or drop bar options, 9 speed, salsa cowchipper or 
> salsa salt flat, thomson 90 or FSA 70mm stem
> Silver Thomson post or black FSA post
> Velocity Dyad rims on 105 hubs
> email for photos while I try to upload a few.
> Located in Michigan
> Trades you say?  Maybe.
>

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[RBW] FS 56 Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V5.3 Gentian Blue

[Andrew Huston]

So I am selling my one and only bike to make funds for a BMC disc 
So, as stated in the title 56 BMC Monstercross rim brake edition, full 
build or frame/fork/hs, or something in between.
Deore V brakes
Cane Creek headset
Vintage specialized triple
Deore front/rear derailleur
I have either flat bar or drop bar options, 9 speed, salsa cowchipper or 
salsa salt flat, thomson 90 or FSA 70mm stem
Silver Thomson post or black FSA post
Velocity Dyad rims on 105 hubs
email for photos while I try to upload a few.
Located in Michigan
Trades you say?  Maybe.

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Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[Lum Gim Fong]

What did people tour on back in the ‘60’s and 70’s? Did they build specific 
beefy frames for touring? Or was only standard diameter reynolds tubing (I am 
guessing it was thin walled)  available?

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Re: [RBW] WTT:(or FS) My 58 Cromo Bullmoose Bosco for your Nitto Stem and 58 Bosco

[frankie garcia]

I have many nitto bars and stems I’d be willing to trade? 
Specific sizes?
Frankie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2018, at 1:44 PM, gabriel luke thompson aspinwall 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looking to trade my bullmoose (set up for about a month) for just a regular 
> stem and bar setup. A nitto stem, (Dirt Drop or Tallux 25.4) and the 58 Bosco 
> Bars. Also if your interested in my Cromo Bullmoose Bosco Bars, I'm pricing 
> them at $110.
> 
> Pics on request. 
> 
> Thanks, Gabe.
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Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[John G.]

I'm 195 lbs and have owned a 58cm diagatube Hunq (now sold) and a 61cm 
Waterford Atlantis. I'm on the bigger end of the spectrum, I guess, but I 
think the Atlantis actually feels lively and cushy, especially compared to 
the Hunq. I took it out on a mixed surface 100K this weekend, and it was a 
delight. 

But if I could do it all over again, and was focused on as few bikes as 
possible, I'd buy a Homer.

On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 7:22:05 AM UTC-4, Hugh Flynn wrote:
>
> Some good points have been raised here, and I'll echo the advice to ride 
> what you have until it doesn't work for you. 
>
> I've been riding a Heron Road (bought from Riv in 1998 or so) over mixed 
> terrain (including gravel) with 700 x 28 tires 20 years and have only JUST 
> converted it to 650 x 38. While I'm super happy with it, I really can't say 
> I was ever crazy unhappy with the 28s.
>
> I have recently added an Appaloosa to the mix because I found the Heron 
> didn't handle well fully loaded with front/rear racks and bags. Start by 
> doing what you want on the San Marcos and see what you think. I'd be 
> willing to guarantee that you won't hurt the frame in any way doing so.
>
> Hugh "underbiking" Flynn
> Newburyport, MA
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:09 AM Drw > 
> wrote:
>
>> I’m about 180lbs, so not a featherweight. At one time I had a 
>> hunqapillar, Sam and 1983 specialized expedition. I loved the hunq loaded 
>> but didn’t like it unloaded. In comparison the expedition was great 
>> unloaded and wobbly with a heavy load. The Sam was a happy medium but I 
>> wanted bigger clearances, v brakes (this was before the new versions came 
>> out) and not 700c wheels, so I sold all of the above and got a Waterford 
>> Atlantis. It’s more hunqapillar than Sam, but it’s pretty close to a 1 bike 
>> for me.  If I was lighter, I probably would go with something g like the 
>> ocean air rambler or a crust lightning bolt. 
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Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[hugh flynn]

Some good points have been raised here, and I'll echo the advice to ride
what you have until it doesn't work for you.

I've been riding a Heron Road (bought from Riv in 1998 or so) over mixed
terrain (including gravel) with 700 x 28 tires 20 years and have only JUST
converted it to 650 x 38. While I'm super happy with it, I really can't say
I was ever crazy unhappy with the 28s.

I have recently added an Appaloosa to the mix because I found the Heron
didn't handle well fully loaded with front/rear racks and bags. Start by
doing what you want on the San Marcos and see what you think. I'd be
willing to guarantee that you won't hurt the frame in any way doing so.

Hugh "underbiking" Flynn
Newburyport, MA

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:09 AM Drw  wrote:

> I’m about 180lbs, so not a featherweight. At one time I had a hunqapillar,
> Sam and 1983 specialized expedition. I loved the hunq loaded but didn’t
> like it unloaded. In comparison the expedition was great unloaded and
> wobbly with a heavy load. The Sam was a happy medium but I wanted bigger
> clearances, v brakes (this was before the new versions came out) and not
> 700c wheels, so I sold all of the above and got a Waterford Atlantis. It’s
> more hunqapillar than Sam, but it’s pretty close to a 1 bike for me.  If I
> was lighter, I probably would go with something g like the ocean air
> rambler or a crust lightning bolt.
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