[RBW] Maynard Hershon

[Philip Williamson]

Do you have a transcript? 
I’m not an audio podcast person. It’s a neurological issue.

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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Re: [RBW] Bosco bullmoose stem length?

[Drw]

Awesome thanks!!

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[RBW] Re: Don't Miss Sights Around Las Vegas

[REC (Roberta)]

In case your plans are flexible and these might appeal to you:

I was at Valley of Fire two years ago with the wrong shoes.  You'll be 
hiking in red sand that once was part of the mountain.  I  recommend high 
top hiking boots to keep the sand out of your shoes.
Death Valley.  Bring a paper map.  You lose cell connection partway between 
LV and Death Valley.
Mob Museum.  VERY interesting (history of how LV came to be), more than I 
thought it would be.
Hoover Dam.  Take the longest tour you can.  Awesome. 
Red Rock Canyon.  Lots of good hikes, from easy to difficult.




On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 10:01:16 AM UTC-4, truegolden wrote:

> Well, tickets are purchased so this trip is scheduled. 
>
> Thanks for the input on things to see in the area. 
>
> The Valley of Fire sounds interesting. 
>
> Also it would great to see Death Valley. 
> I've never been there. 
>
> One day we will be driving nearJoshua Tree National Park so we may check 
> it out as well. 
>
> Thanks again. 
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: 61.5 A. Homer Hilsen complete

[tc]

Bump. $1900 shipped to CONUS. 

Tom

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Re: [RBW] Bosco bullmoose stem length?

[Drw]

Thanks David. I’m asking about extension I guess. Can’t find that measurement 
anywhere, though I suspect it’s in the 10-13cm range. The horizontal distance 
from the stem shaft out to the handlebar. Essentially I’m wondering what Tallux 
stem would give equivalent reach. 

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Re: [RBW] Bosco bullmoose stem length?

[David Bivins]

The bullmoose is 190mm stem per rivbike.com and looks the same. I have one
in the basement (which is four floors down) which I can measure if you'll
tell me how to "measure straight out like a normal stem:" to the very top?
Or to the base of where the bar is welded on?

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 9:34 PM Drw  wrote:

> Anyone know the length of the boscomoose stem? Measured straight out like
> a normal stem.
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Re: [RBW] Re: 5cm Stem or shorter

[jandrews]

Drew
I PM'd you 
Not sure if you received it
Just following up here

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[RBW] Bosco bullmoose stem length?

[Drw]

Anyone know the length of the boscomoose stem? Measured straight out like a 
normal stem.

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Mini Front Rack

[Steve Butcher]

I have a Nitto M18 front rack for sale.

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[RBW] WTB: 55cm ish Cheviot or Betty

[Karl]

The more used the better. Wanting to have some couplers added. Thanks!

Karl
Nashville, TN

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe v.2 geometry chart

[sameness]

Nevermind, I think you're talking about this one 

 maybe?

Details are still up at:

https://roscobubbe.tumblr.com/

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA


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[RBW] Re: WTB-Parts for my Bubbe Cargo Bike

[Peter H]

Thanks everyone who's reached out with parts! Here's what I'm still looking 
for...

-36 or 40 hole 650b wheelset Velocity Atlas or Cliffhanger or anything 
burly and cheap!

-Dynamo Hub (wishfully!)

-Cassette: Shimano CS-HG400 11-36

-Derailleur: 9 spd Shimano Deore RD M591 SGS

-Shifters: 9 spd Shimano Deore SL M590 or 9 spd Thumb 

As said before...I'm looking to do the build right, but also can't spend a 
ton of money... so not too worried about cosmetic condition as long as 
things work proper.

If you happen to have any of these parts please let me know, contact 
off-list via PM and thanks!







On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 4:21:41 PM UTC-4, Bob K. wrote:
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> This Bubbe Xtracycle is going to be sweet! Peter’s a good dude. Anyone 
> have some stuff for him? 
>
> Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Rosco Bubbe v.2 geometry chart

[Jim S.]

Hi, I was looking around for the geometry chart for this bike, and I can't 
seem to find it. 

This is sage green one, size 55.5

Does anyone happen to have a link or a copy of the chart? 

Thanks in advance.

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Mini Front Rack

[Howard Hatten]

DM sent

Howard
Livonia Mi

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[RBW] FS: mark’s hub area rack

[jamin orrall]

selling a rivendell hub area rack (version 2) with hoop.  Used on one 9 day 
tour, didn’t use the hoop, no bolts included. 

pics
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$110 shipped conus

thanks,
Jamin
Nashville, TN

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Re: [RBW] Re: Plus Tires for GBW

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Schwalbe Nobby Nic 27.5 x 2.8" Addix Apex Speedgrip SnakeSkin (Whew!) initial 
impressions (all of five miles in, pavement and dirt roads and trails, no 
technical single track yet).

Installing:
I was needlessly concerned when I received these that they would be way too 
stiff. The casing feels stiffer than the Maxxis Ikon+'s casing, the tire they 
replace, but the Maxxis have been ridden by me a few hundred miles and for 
whatever the demo bike did before heading my way and becoming Beorn. As 
esoteric as Schwalbe's rubber compounds are, they do know their stuff. I've 
also wondered with increased tire width how much more fortification is needed 
both for protection against sidewall rocks and just because there is more tire. 
I have no idea, and hope to one day try out a Rene Herse level supple 2.8" 
tire, whatever that may be. I installed these with tubes, as I don't do the 
tubeless slop shinnannigans (at least until they sort out the need for 
trailside fiddling and goop). 

No issues installing. As is often the case, I did need to go into the rim well 
with the tire bead to have room to get the last bit on.

Nobby Nic has a soft, pliable rubber feel, and though the casing feels beefy, 
it also feels compliant, much more so than the Ikon. The profile is rounder, 
with the knobbies and profile giving an impression of a plus sized Steilacoom.

Initial Ride
I rode at the same pressure front and rear as my Ikons had for this mornings 
ride for direct comparison (15 front, 20 rear). Compared with the Ikons, Nic is 
a plush ride and rides much more like a supple tire than I would have 
suspected. The nobs on pavement are quiet, possibly quieter than the Ikon, also 
a surprise, though I expected something similar to the Steilacooms because of 
the soft rubber and nobby pattern similarities. Nic didn't feel slower, though 
almost 200 grams heavier per tire. I'll see if I notice it when climbing well 
known trails next time I get that far out.

I am very hopeful this will be my tire of choice for daily riding and 
bikepacking. The big test was if it was more supple than the Ikon, and it is 
without a doubt. It is Steilacoomesque smooth on pavement, and the knob pattern 
is much the same, so I expect will grip rocks and roots well. Schwalbe designed 
this to be an aggressive all-rounder and that description fits so far.

With abandon,
Patrick

 

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[RBW] Re: FS 62cm Hunqapillar ff $1300

[Adam Leibow]

deal of a lifetime. 

On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 8:31:39 PM UTC-7, Kurt Manley wrote:
>
> Hey Rivsters,
>
> I guess this is a bit of a feeler post as it's a little contingent on 
> another bike I'd like to buy but I'm offering up my 62cm Hunqapillar 
> frame/fork hs for $1300 shipped.
>
> This bike is awesome. It's taken me to many far off lands and has plenty 
> of beusage to prove it but it still looks good and rides even better. 
> Notable flaws are, chain suck, lots of it, scuffs and scratches of the 
> normal variety, a paint chip on the middle downtube about the size of a 
> pencil diameter. No dents, rust, cracks, or other structural flaws, just 
> cosmetic stuff.
>
> Basically I'm testing waters to see if I've got anyone seriously 
> interested before I commit to buying another Riv. If you're interested drop 
> me a line and I can take and send you some proper photos. I'm in Oakland, 
> CA for a local inspection.
>
> A photo from today's ride is attached...
>

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[RBW] FS: riv sunrace thumb shifters

[jamin orrall]

these have been sold. 

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[RBW] FS: riv sunrace thumb shifters

[jamin orrall]

bought these from riv for a project but never used them. right and left side 
sunrace friction shifters.

$48 shipped conus

pics
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thanks,
Jamin
Nashville, TN 

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[RBW] Re: Buy a Clem (from Rivendel) and get a $750 store credit(!)

[Collin A]

It went well enough given the muddy conditions and the beer brakes, still been 
meaning to do a proper write-up but I've been slacking. Sadly no basket as I 
was trying to lighten the bike up a bit, ha

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[RBW] FS Nitto cockpit

[Adam]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bop/d/berkeley-nitto-cockpit/6886031890.html

Local pickup preferred. 

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[RBW] Re: stripped derailleur hanger threads

[jandrews]

Thanks for the info everyone 
Dropout Saver's have been ordered 




On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 12:52:38 PM UTC-4, Ian A wrote:
>
> Drop-out saver. Instal and forget it ever happened. All other options 
> remain open after using the drop-out saver. It's a cheap and effectively 
> guaranteed solution. The one issue could be the chain fouling on the d.o. 
> saver in the highest gear (smallest cog). I had to file my d.o. saver a mm 
> or two to make the flange thin enough to clear the chain. 
>
> On my afflicted drop out, I made the hole as small as possible in order to 
> achieve a press fit. Doesn't exactly keep the d.o. saver fully captive, but 
> makes it less fiddly when threading in the derailleur.
>
> IanA Alberta Canada
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Marks hub Area Rack & Olive Hub Area bags

[Rusty Click]

Forrest Harvey,
I have the hoop-less front area rack available for sale, but not the bags.

Rusty in Pgh,PA

On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 11:28:01 AM UTC-4, Forrest Harvey wrote:
>
> Does anyone else have a set like this they are thinking about getting rid 
> of?
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:26 AM phil k > 
> wrote:
>
>> These have sold quickly! Thanks to everyone who reached out.
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 10:28:27 AM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>>>
>>> I am selling these as a set. This is the version without the loop, and 
>>> includes straps to fasten the bags to the rack.
>>>
>>> $105 plus shipping.
>>>
>>> [image: hub area.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: hub area 2.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: 0mm offset Nitto Quill Stem

[sameness]

Related, there's a vintage Jack Taylor variant on Ebay 

.

Historical Reenactment + New Skool Kool FTW

Jeff Hagedorn
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Mini Front Rack

[Justin Schoop]

Looking for a used mini front rack 32f.

Thanks,
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[RBW] Maynard Hershon

[Christopher Wiggins]

Maynard came by the shop yesterday, and I talked him into coming back this 
morning to record episode 7 of the podcast.  Hopefully the link will work, 
but you can also listen wherever you consume your podcasts.  Enjoy!

https://www.buzzsprout.com/193775/1116446-7-maynard-hershon

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[RBW] Maynard Hershon

[Christopher Wiggins]

Maynard came by the shop yesterday, and I talked him into coming back this 
morning to record episode 7 of the podcast.  Hopefully the link will work, 
but you can also listen wherever you consume your podcasts.  Enjoy!


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[RBW] FS: Nitto/Analog flared drops cockpit

[Joe Bernard]

Bumpity. Maybe I'll keep the crazy stem if you want to make an offer on the 
wrapped bar with levers and shifter mounts. 

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[RBW] stripped derailleur hanger threads

[Ian A]

Drop-out saver. Instal and forget it ever happened. All other options remain 
open after using the drop-out saver. It's a cheap and effectively guaranteed 
solution. The one issue could be the chain fouling on the d.o. saver in the 
highest gear (smallest cog). I had to file my d.o. saver a mm or two to make 
the flange thin enough to clear the chain. 

On my afflicted drop out, I made the hole as small as possible in order to 
achieve a press fit. Doesn't exactly keep the d.o. saver fully captive, but 
makes it less fiddly when threading in the derailleur.

IanA Alberta Canada

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Re: [RBW] FS 62cm Hunqapillar ff $1300

[jandrews]

wish I could run that combo on my Appaloosa 



On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 10:08:55 AM UTC-4, Kurt Manley wrote:
>
> Yes, Jandrews is correct. Berthoud 700x60 over 60mm G-One tires. Great 
> combo
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 5:14:39 AM UTC-7, John McBurney wrote:
>>
>> I’m not in the market for a bike but I am curious about the fenders. Is 
>> this a 700c bike?
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:31 PM Kurt Manley  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Rivsters,
>>>
>>> I guess this is a bit of a feeler post as it's a little contingent on 
>>> another bike I'd like to buy but I'm offering up my 62cm Hunqapillar 
>>> frame/fork hs for $1300 shipped.
>>>
>>> This bike is awesome. It's taken me to many far off lands and has plenty 
>>> of beusage to prove it but it still looks good and rides even better. 
>>> Notable flaws are, chain suck, lots of it, scuffs and scratches of the 
>>> normal variety, a paint chip on the middle downtube about the size of a 
>>> pencil diameter. No dents, rust, cracks, or other structural flaws, just 
>>> cosmetic stuff.
>>>
>>> Basically I'm testing waters to see if I've got anyone seriously 
>>> interested before I commit to buying another Riv. If you're interested drop 
>>> me a line and I can take and send you some proper photos. I'm in Oakland, 
>>> CA for a local inspection.
>>>
>>> A photo from today's ride is attached...
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Re: [RBW] Re: stripped derailleur hanger threads

[Peter White]

Back when I was servicing bikes I used the dropout savers on several steel
frames. Worked as advertised.

PJW

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 9:44 AM Christopher Cote <
christopherjamesc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I should add that I've used similar thread inserts for other applications
> like a stripped oil pan drain threads. They work very well, and if done
> carefully, are better than the original threads.
>
> Chris
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lookie at my new to me Saluki!

[M G]

Ha! you're a multiplicity of  Saluki.
Interesting that you went back to it.
For sure it's a great 'light hauler'
I found i loved it when it had 20 - 40 lbs on it.
Unladen, it was less sprightly.
I used it a lot for work, which at the time involved carrying a lot of 
renovation supplies and tools.
I too would think about another one, but i still have my very similar 
Kogswell P/R which i use for same.
Enjoy the new one! (and vbrakes - so excellent)


On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:53:00 PM UTC-4, Justin Schoop wrote:
>
> Our past saluki.
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:30:59 PM UTC-4, Justin Schoop wrote:
>>
>> I'm the guy in Maryland. 
>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2019, 1:19 PM M G > wrote:
>>
>>> He sold it to a guy in Maryland (i just pinged him and asked). So
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 12:54:28 PM UTC-4, M G wrote:



 On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 10:13:44 AM UTC-4, Justin Schoop wrote:
>
> MG, did it by chance have a dent in the downtube near the top water 
> bottle cage bolt? If so, I owned that same frame. I believe I bought the 
> f/f/h, cranks and brakes. I can post a pic later.



 I don't remember a dent there;  though there might have been one.  I 
 think that when i shipped it to Rob (on the west coast) - i didn't do a 
 great packing job, and it arrived with a dent from a loose piece in the 
 box; and he was [rightly] upset, but it was ok.  Or that could have been 
 another dent, or something subsequent to my tenure. 

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[RBW] Re: Lookie at my new to me Saluki!

[Justin Schoop]

Phil, thanks. From what I understand, the original owners wife had a rive mixte 
painted the same green and had saluki stickers and head badge applied by Riv 
because they owned salukis(dogs). The color is outstanding, with a really light 
sparkle to it in the sunlight. 

I'm now trying to figure out racks/fenders/ and that sort of thing. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Steep but short hills on 2003 Custom using S3X hub

[Patrick Moore]

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:04 AM lconley  wrote:

> You do not have to buy a custom to get a lugged Riv frame, There are still
> non-TIGed production frames - Atlantis, etc.
>

That's true. Still, any Rivendell model, stock or not, that I personally
want, will cost more than a Rohlof -- which is not a big debating point,
since the Rohlof price is still more than I care to pay (tho' I reserve the
right to change my mind).

>
> The steel 3 speed Shimano is the only hub that I have ever had that broke
> spokes, but maybe it was the bike (Trek Belville).
>

The only Shimano 3-speed hub I recall riding was that on my daughter's 24"
wheel Electra Townie "3i"; that had a coaster brake and, honestly, was
rather nice. I sometimes think that, but for aesthetic scruples, one of
those would make a nice multiple gear + rear brake system for my 1999 Joe
Starck custom fixie, which doesn't have a rear brake.


> The Alfines make a lot of noise (even brand new) and are sensitive to
> exact adjustment - the "indexing" takes place in the shifter, not the hub.
> The gear spacing is uneven. The hubs are the same for belt or chain, just
> different sprockets. I have been told that the top of the line Jagwire
> Slick-Lube liner housing helps with the shifting, but have not tried it yet.
>

I'd be interested to hear of others' experience with the 8 speed Alfine.
I've read quite a few reports on Der Web and on the whole the reports are
positive; more so than for the 11. (Not that anyone really needs a 307%
range, right?)


>
> Certain models of Bendix two speed hubs are direct drive top gear - the
> stripe color on the hub is how you can tell. Not sure which is the color
> indicates the underdrive models.
>

I read up about those; unfortunately, the OL spacing and the spoking don't
fit. Otherwise, they might be the ticket for an occasional rear wheel.



>
> Laing
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 8:07:05 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I don't agree; someone else pointed out the RS RF3 or somesuch which is
>> basically an AW with aluminum shell, 129 OL spacing, and 32 holes. And the
>> price I just saw -- #1,239.99 or so -- is certainly less than a Riv custom
>> frame!
>>
>> Why do you dislike the Shimano 3 speed and the Alfines? (Note: No
>> interest in belts.)
>>
>> The various kickbacks would be very worth considering, for my needs,
>> except that high is overdrive, not direct; the reverse would suit me fine
>> -- 70 and 51 would be very nice.
>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 4:43 PM lconley  wrote:
>>
>>> Low drag IGH + Wide Range + 135OLD + 32 hole + Reliable + aluminum +
>>> Cost Not Important = Rolhoff (even available in fancy anodized finish to
>>> match SON front dyno hubs)
>>>
>>> Very expensive - you can get a new lugged Rivendell frame for the cost
>>> of a Rolhoff.
>>>
>>> I have a Shimano 3 speed IGH - not recommended, a Nexus and two Alfine 8
>>> speed hubs (belt drive), not really recommended either, but the less
>>> expensive Nexus works better (quieter) than either of the Alfines. I think
>>> I may need to disassemble the Alfines and re-lubricate - I have read that
>>> they do not necessarily come properly lubricated out of the box.
>>>
>>> I also have a couple of Sturmey Archer 2 speed kickback coaster brake
>>> hubs - not recommended for going down steep hills.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Cocoa FL
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 5:49:17 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 I took a brief but rather nice ride this afternoon between projects,
 choosing the 2003 errand Riv so I could pick up some books from the
 library, but also because after badmouthing it for a couple of year, I've
 recently been riding the S3X, but with freewheel (17 t, 48 t ring, 24.75"
 tire, 70-53-44 gi).

 I'm out of shape for hills -- I generally ride mostly N-S along the
 River valley (at just about exactly 1 mile high; 4980 at lowest point near
 me, IIRC), which is dead flat, eking out my workload in strong southwestery
 winds.

 So on the way to the library I decided to try a nice detour west of me
 toward Boca Negra canyon, and see what I could do to the short but sharp
 climb. In "hill shape" I can make it 2/3 of the way in a 67" gear on a
 light bike; but I've not yet cleared teh steepest part.

 It went well. The grade starts out at 3 or 4% and then quickly steepens
 to 9 10, 13 before decreasing to 10 and then again 4 near the summit.

 In shape I could easily do the steep bit in the 53" with effort, but
 the 44 allowed me to clear it -- standing, of course -- with only moderate
 exhaustion, so to speak: I was tired, but I could have done at least a bit
 more.

 I'd love to replace the fw with a fixed cog, but 70" is just too low to
 spin at any downhills speed, and for me, at least, the huge lash is just
 too annoying to tolerate. So fw it is.

 Segueing: Give me advice on hub gears with these qualities:

 1. 

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Marks hub Area Rack & Olive Hub Area bags

[Forrest Harvey]

Does anyone else have a set like this they are thinking about getting rid
of?

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:26 AM phil k  wrote:

> These have sold quickly! Thanks to everyone who reached out.
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 10:28:27 AM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>>
>> I am selling these as a set. This is the version without the loop, and
>> includes straps to fasten the bags to the rack.
>>
>> $105 plus shipping.
>>
>> [image: hub area.jpg]
>>
>> [image: hub area 2.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: FS: Marks hub Area Rack & Olive Hub Area bags

[phil k]

These have sold quickly! Thanks to everyone who reached out.

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>
> I am selling these as a set. This is the version without the loop, and 
> includes straps to fasten the bags to the rack.
>
> $105 plus shipping.
>
> [image: hub area.jpg]
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Marks hub Area Rack & Olive Hub Area bags

[maxcr]

PM sent

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[RBW] Re: FS: Marks hub Area Rack & Olive Hub Area bags

[Reid Echols]

PM sent 

On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 9:28:27 AM UTC-5, phil k wrote:
>
> I am selling these as a set. This is the version without the loop, and 
> includes straps to fasten the bags to the rack.
>
> $105 plus shipping.
>
> [image: hub area.jpg]
>
> [image: hub area 2.jpg]
>
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[RBW] Re: Lookie at my new to me Saluki!

[phil k]

Nice! I've always been on the look out for a green canti Saluki. I almost 
ordered a Waterford AHH, and requested Riv to put Saluki decals, canti, and 
paint it Saluki green. But the modifications added up, and I decided 
against it.

Hope you have fun with it!

On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 7:56:50 PM UTC-4, Justin Schoop wrote:
>
> Received this beautiful Saluki today. My favorite frame that Rivendell has 
> produced and I'm so thankful to have this canti Saluki. I love the setup 
> for kid hauling and family cruises. I intend on adding a few things like 
> fenders and a dynamo but other than that, I think it's perfect for what I 
> was looking for. It's serial # is SA0013, lucky 13! I'll take some time 
> this weekend to take nice pictures if the weather cooperates. 
>
> Justin
>

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[RBW] Re: Brifter setup for my Sam: looking for options

[phil k]

If you ride predominantly on the hoods, I'd look at gevenalle. They are 
indexed, but also have a friction mode should you ever need it. Super 
comfortable and convenient. Also allows you to dump your cassette when 
shifting, instead of shifting each gear one by one.

On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 4:20:42 PM UTC-4, Neil Doran wrote:
>
> I love how my Sam is set up right now: Shimano Sora 3x9 brifters on 44 cm 
> Salsa Cowchipper. Haven't had a hankering to change this in over a year, so 
> I think I am sold.
>
> However, I purchased the Sora brifters used, and they are worn. Time for 
> an upgrade.
>
> When I last looked, Sora and I think Micro Shift were the only 3 x 9 
> brifters on the market. Should I be thinking about other options, such as 
> 10 sp?
>
> My modest requirements...
>
> - Must be indexed, don't wanna go back to friction.
>
> - Need to use existing rear wheel (standard LX hub).
>
> - Need at least a double up front, cuz of hills and I frequently bike-camp 
> and otherwise load the bike up.
>
> - Need to be compatible with sidepull brakes.
>
> - Would prefer to reuse the crank (standard RIv Sugino triple) but not 
> necessary.
>
> What I'm thinking is a wide-low double (28 x 46 ish) and an expanded rear 
> cassette (likely 10 sp) (11 x 38 ish)...has anybody done a setup like this 
> before?
>
> Kinda looking for an integrated solution that plays well together and 
> delivers very good shifting performance. Thanks all!
>

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[RBW] Re: Brifter setup for my Sam: looking for options

[Adam in Indiana]

That SRAM setup Nick posted sounds like an awesome solution, I may try that in 
the future.

On my Sam I currently have Shimano's 11 speed SLX mountain cassette (11-40) and 
derailleur with a single ring up front.  I use Microshift's bar-end shifter 
made especially for them, since Shimano doesn't make a drop bar shifter for 
that derailleur.  This is the same shifter Gevenalle uses on some of their 
brake levers.

Though it's 11 speed, as mentioned, it fits on an 8-10 speed hub, since the 
largest gears can fit out over the lip of the hub on the spoke side.

As a side note, I use mine in friction mode...feels much better than indexed, 
and I've never had problems finding a gear.



On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 4:20:42 PM UTC-4, Neil Doran wrote:
> I love how my Sam is set up right now: Shimano Sora 3x9 brifters on 44 cm 
> Salsa Cowchipper. Haven't had a hankering to change this in over a year, so I 
> think I am sold.
> 
> 
> However, I purchased the Sora brifters used, and they are worn. Time for an 
> upgrade.
> 
> 
> When I last looked, Sora and I think Micro Shift were the only 3 x 9 brifters 
> on the market. Should I be thinking about other options, such as 10 sp?
> 
> 
> My modest requirements...
> 
> 
> - Must be indexed, don't wanna go back to friction.
> 
> 
> - Need to use existing rear wheel (standard LX hub).
> 
> 
> - Need at least a double up front, cuz of hills and I frequently bike-camp 
> and otherwise load the bike up.
> 
> 
> - Need to be compatible with sidepull brakes.
> 
> 
> - Would prefer to reuse the crank (standard RIv Sugino triple) but not 
> necessary.
> 
> 
> What I'm thinking is a wide-low double (28 x 46 ish) and an expanded rear 
> cassette (likely 10 sp) (11 x 38 ish)...has anybody done a setup like this 
> before?
> 
> 
> Kinda looking for an integrated solution that plays well together and 
> delivers very good shifting performance. Thanks all!

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[RBW] Re: Closest geared Riv to QuickOne?

[Eric Karnes]

Exactly.

Eric

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Re: [RBW] FS 62cm Hunqapillar ff $1300

[Kurt Manley]

Yes, Jandrews is correct. Berthoud 700x60 over 60mm G-One tires. Great combo

On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 5:14:39 AM UTC-7, John McBurney wrote:
>
> I’m not in the market for a bike but I am curious about the fenders. Is 
> this a 700c bike?
>
> John
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:31 PM Kurt Manley  > wrote:
>
>> Hey Rivsters,
>>
>> I guess this is a bit of a feeler post as it's a little contingent on 
>> another bike I'd like to buy but I'm offering up my 62cm Hunqapillar 
>> frame/fork hs for $1300 shipped.
>>
>> This bike is awesome. It's taken me to many far off lands and has plenty 
>> of beusage to prove it but it still looks good and rides even better. 
>> Notable flaws are, chain suck, lots of it, scuffs and scratches of the 
>> normal variety, a paint chip on the middle downtube about the size of a 
>> pencil diameter. No dents, rust, cracks, or other structural flaws, just 
>> cosmetic stuff.
>>
>> Basically I'm testing waters to see if I've got anyone seriously 
>> interested before I commit to buying another Riv. If you're interested drop 
>> me a line and I can take and send you some proper photos. I'm in Oakland, 
>> CA for a local inspection.
>>
>> A photo from today's ride is attached...
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Re: [RBW] Re: Steep but short hills on 2003 Custom using S3X hub

[lconley]

You do not have to buy a custom to get a lugged Riv frame, There are still 
non-TIGed production frames - Atlantis, etc.

The steel 3 speed Shimano is the only hub that I have ever had that broke 
spokes, but maybe it was the bike (Trek Belville).

The Alfines make a lot of noise (even brand new) and are sensitive to exact 
adjustment - the "indexing" takes place in the shifter, not the hub. The 
gear spacing is uneven. The hubs are the same for belt or chain, just 
different sprockets. I have been told that the top of the line Jagwire 
Slick-Lube liner housing helps with the shifting, but have not tried it yet.

Certain models of Bendix two speed hubs are direct drive top gear - the 
stripe color on the hub is how you can tell. Not sure which is the color 
indicates the underdrive models.

Laing

On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 8:07:05 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

> I don't agree; someone else pointed out the RS RF3 or somesuch which is 
> basically an AW with aluminum shell, 129 OL spacing, and 32 holes. And the 
> price I just saw -- #1,239.99 or so -- is certainly less than a Riv custom 
> frame!
>
> Why do you dislike the Shimano 3 speed and the Alfines? (Note: No interest 
> in belts.)
>
> The various kickbacks would be very worth considering, for my needs, 
> except that high is overdrive, not direct; the reverse would suit me fine 
> -- 70 and 51 would be very nice.
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 4:43 PM lconley > 
> wrote:
>
>> Low drag IGH + Wide Range + 135OLD + 32 hole + Reliable + aluminum + Cost 
>> Not Important = Rolhoff (even available in fancy anodized finish to match 
>> SON front dyno hubs)
>>
>> Very expensive - you can get a new lugged Rivendell frame for the cost of 
>> a Rolhoff.
>>
>> I have a Shimano 3 speed IGH - not recommended, a Nexus and two Alfine 8 
>> speed hubs (belt drive), not really recommended either, but the less 
>> expensive Nexus works better (quieter) than either of the Alfines. I think 
>> I may need to disassemble the Alfines and re-lubricate - I have read that 
>> they do not necessarily come properly lubricated out of the box.
>>
>> I also have a couple of Sturmey Archer 2 speed kickback coaster brake 
>> hubs - not recommended for going down steep hills.
>>
>> Laing
>> Cocoa FL
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 5:49:17 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I took a brief but rather nice ride this afternoon between projects, 
>>> choosing the 2003 errand Riv so I could pick up some books from the 
>>> library, but also because after badmouthing it for a couple of year, I've 
>>> recently been riding the S3X, but with freewheel (17 t, 48 t ring, 24.75" 
>>> tire, 70-53-44 gi). 
>>>
>>> I'm out of shape for hills -- I generally ride mostly N-S along the 
>>> River valley (at just about exactly 1 mile high; 4980 at lowest point near 
>>> me, IIRC), which is dead flat, eking out my workload in strong southwestery 
>>> winds. 
>>>
>>> So on the way to the library I decided to try a nice detour west of me 
>>> toward Boca Negra canyon, and see what I could do to the short but sharp 
>>> climb. In "hill shape" I can make it 2/3 of the way in a 67" gear on a 
>>> light bike; but I've not yet cleared teh steepest part.
>>>
>>> It went well. The grade starts out at 3 or 4% and then quickly steepens 
>>> to 9 10, 13 before decreasing to 10 and then again 4 near the summit.
>>>
>>> In shape I could easily do the steep bit in the 53" with effort, but the 
>>> 44 allowed me to clear it -- standing, of course -- with only moderate 
>>> exhaustion, so to speak: I was tired, but I could have done at least a bit 
>>> more.
>>>
>>> I'd love to replace the fw with a fixed cog, but 70" is just too low to 
>>> spin at any downhills speed, and for me, at least, the huge lash is just 
>>> too annoying to tolerate. So fw it is.
>>>
>>> Segueing: Give me advice on hub gears with these qualities:
>>>
>>> 1. Lowest drag (my reading indicates that this is the AW or, at least, 3 
>>> speed hubs with single planetary systems; ami right?
>>>
>>> 2. Biggest gaps. Again, while I know that SA made very wide ratio hubs, 
>>> the standard 3 speed today is 1.33, 1.0. 0.75 -- or have I missed one?
>>>
>>> 3. 130 or at least ~127 OL spacing.
>>>
>>> 4. 32 or 40 holes -- I want to use 32 hole rims, not 36.
>>>
>>> 5. Aluminum shell if possible.
>>>
>>> 6. Reputation for durability and reliability of operation -- doesn't 
>>> creep out of adjustment and leave you straddling the top tube after it 
>>> slips in 1st while you are honking hard and slow up a steep hill.
>>>
>>> Cost is a very, very distant #7.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And 
>>> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the 
>>> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.*
>>> 

[RBW] Don't Miss Sights Around Las Vegas

[in Dallas nick]

Well, tickets are purchased so this trip is scheduled. 




Thanks for the input on things to see in the area. 




The Valley of Fire sounds interesting. 




Also it would great to see Death Valley. 


I've never been there. 




One day we will be driving nearJoshua Tree National Park so we may check it out 
as well. 




Thanks again. 




Paul in Dallas 







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[RBW] Re: Closest geared Riv to QuickOne?

[ted]

Dave, how do you find your SO different from your QB and AHH?

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[RBW] Re: stripped derailleur hanger threads

[Christopher Cote]

I should add that I've used similar thread inserts for other applications like 
a stripped oil pan drain threads. They work very well, and if done carefully, 
are better than the original threads.

Chris

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Re: [RBW] Re: F.S 56 cm. Simpleone

[jandrews]

I don’t think it was a discount QB
I honk it actually cost more than the latest QB when it was released. It was 
made in Taiwan instead of in Japan by  Panaracer.  According to GP in one of 
the blogs, geometry is “nearly identical”. It had a slightly fancier fork and a 
kickstand plate.  Not sure if he tubing is a touch stouter or not but I suspect 
it could be

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Re: [RBW] Re: F.S 56 cm. Simpleone

[Patrick Moore]

What is the difference (geometry, ride and feel) between the QB and the SO?
I was under the impression that the SO was a discount QB, but it's not
impossible (barely) that I was mistaken.

Patrick Moore, riding 2 Riv fixed gears in rainy ABQ, NM

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 5:28 AM jandrews  wrote:

> I agree about the SO.
> I had a 58 QB and a 58 SO and I sold the QB.
> There's something about that frame that rides like a Riv but also is alive
> and springy.
> I'm waiting to get mine back from Bilenky where's its having a tube repair
> and repaint.
>


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[RBW] Re: FS: 700C wheel sets, tires, old school brake set and shifters

[John Casteen]

Bump, prices negotiable.  

John

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:05:40 AM UTC-4, John Casteen wrote:
>
> After a couple years of trying various wheel and tire combinations, here's 
> spring cleaning.  Selling these wheels because I switched to dyno hubs.  
> These have low miles, no issues.  All prices negotiable & exclusive of 
> shipping.  
>
> Wheels 1: 700C Alex DM18 rims, Silver Hubs, skewers.  OEM from stock 
> Appaloosa build.  $200
>
> Wheels 2: 700C Mavic CXP rims, Shimano Claris hubs, skewers.  $150
>
> 700C Little Big Bens Performance Line RaceGuard LiteSkin, black, w/ tubes, 
> $50
>
> Dia-Compe 500 brakes and matching levers, vintage 1985, $25
>
> SunTour downtube shifters, ditto, $25
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: stripped derailleur hanger threads

[John Casteen]

I agree with Chris-- the dropout saver looks like it should work.

Another approach, if for whatever reason you decide not to go that route: 
step up to the next size mounting bolt, drill and tap the dropout to accept 
it, and if necessary drill the derailleur mounting hole to the appropriate 
diameter.  If you decide down the road that you want a different 
derailleur, you still have the dropout saver as an option.

John

On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 8:53:45 AM UTC-4, Christopher Cote wrote:
>
> I've never had to use the Wheels dropout saver, but it seems a perfectly 
> reasonable solution. The only thing you're drilling out are threads that 
> are so damaged as to be worthless.
>
> Another, possibly more invasive, solution is to have someone braze some 
> brass into the threads, and tap threads into that. It will burn some paint 
> off, and brass is softer than steel, so those threads won't be very strong.
>
> Chris
>
>

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[RBW] FS extra small grey grid and small olive saddleback

[Carla Waugh]

Med. bag sold 

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[RBW] Re: F.S 56 cm. Simpleone

[maxcr]

Love my SimpleOne (bought from list member tc) and also can’t believe no one 
has jumped to buy this one!

Someone please get it before I buy it because it’s just such a good deal and 
with the excuse that it’s for my wife even though it’s probably too big for her.

Max

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[RBW] stripped derailleur hanger threads

[Christopher Cote]

I've never had to use the Wheels dropout saver, but it seems a perfectly 
reasonable solution. The only thing you're drilling out are threads that are so 
damaged as to be worthless.

Another, possibly more invasive, solution is to have someone braze some brass 
into the threads, and tap threads into that. It will burn some paint off, and 
brass is softer than steel, so those threads won't be very strong.

Chris

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[RBW] WTB: Dia-Compe 287V - Drop Bar Levers for Long Pull

[jandrews]

Looking for a gently used pair of these.
Brown hoods preferred but Black will do too
Thanks

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[RBW] stripped derailleur hanger threads

[jandrews]

Surprisingly this topic hasn't been covered all that much on this list.
my 2009 Sam has stripped threads in the derailleur hanger tab.
I noticed it when doing some recent drivetrain work on it and realize I was 
probably riding it with a loose derailleur for some time.
I was replacing installing a Wolftooth Roadlink when I discovered I 
couldn't sink the bolt in far enough to make a secure connection.  When I 
reverted back to my original derailleur, the same issue presented itself. 
 It seems like the most outboard threads are the ones that are stripped and 
the very inner threads still have grip.
So, my query here is , what should I do.
I've been recommended the Wheels Mfg. Dropout Savers which seem like a very 
smart, very strong fix to this problem, but the thought of drilling out the 
hanger tab feels like almost a last resort.
I guess the real last resort is taking it to a builder to put on a new rear 
dropout but I don't really want to do that right now either.

Are there any other fixes to this problem besides the Dropout Savers?
And...has anyone here used the Dropout Savers successfully?
thanks 

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Re: [RBW] FS 62cm Hunqapillar ff $1300

[jandrews]

looks like stainless Berthoud 700x60's

On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 8:14:39 AM UTC-4, John McBurney wrote:
>
> I’m not in the market for a bike but I am curious about the fenders. Is 
> this a 700c bike?
>
> John
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:31 PM Kurt Manley  > wrote:
>
>> Hey Rivsters,
>>
>> I guess this is a bit of a feeler post as it's a little contingent on 
>> another bike I'd like to buy but I'm offering up my 62cm Hunqapillar 
>> frame/fork hs for $1300 shipped.
>>
>> This bike is awesome. It's taken me to many far off lands and has plenty 
>> of beusage to prove it but it still looks good and rides even better. 
>> Notable flaws are, chain suck, lots of it, scuffs and scratches of the 
>> normal variety, a paint chip on the middle downtube about the size of a 
>> pencil diameter. No dents, rust, cracks, or other structural flaws, just 
>> cosmetic stuff.
>>
>> Basically I'm testing waters to see if I've got anyone seriously 
>> interested before I commit to buying another Riv. If you're interested drop 
>> me a line and I can take and send you some proper photos. I'm in Oakland, 
>> CA for a local inspection.
>>
>> A photo from today's ride is attached...
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Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bar Appaloosa's?

[Sky Coulter]

I sized slightly down to go with drops:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjD3twihvqBnoo8cJBCYKq4vOxQvO5Rz-biVWQ0/

Sky in new west

On Friday, 10 May 2019 05:22:51 UTC-7, Hugh Flynn wrote:
>
> Been thinking about going towel rack on mine. Good to know! 
>
> Nice looking bike too!
>
> Hugh 
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:14 AM Reid Echols  > wrote:
>
>> Here's my 62 with the "small" Crust Towel Rack bar. I really like it so 
>> far, though the back sweep of the ramps may necessitate a slightly longer 
>> stem in the long run. 
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_3473 copy.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] FS 62cm Hunqapillar ff $1300

[John McBurney]

I’m not in the market for a bike but I am curious about the fenders. Is
this a 700c bike?

John

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:31 PM Kurt Manley  wrote:

> Hey Rivsters,
>
> I guess this is a bit of a feeler post as it's a little contingent on
> another bike I'd like to buy but I'm offering up my 62cm Hunqapillar
> frame/fork hs for $1300 shipped.
>
> This bike is awesome. It's taken me to many far off lands and has plenty
> of beusage to prove it but it still looks good and rides even better.
> Notable flaws are, chain suck, lots of it, scuffs and scratches of the
> normal variety, a paint chip on the middle downtube about the size of a
> pencil diameter. No dents, rust, cracks, or other structural flaws, just
> cosmetic stuff.
>
> Basically I'm testing waters to see if I've got anyone seriously
> interested before I commit to buying another Riv. If you're interested drop
> me a line and I can take and send you some proper photos. I'm in Oakland,
> CA for a local inspection.
>
> A photo from today's ride is attached...
>
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[RBW] Re: Buy a Clem (from Rivendel) and get a $750 store credit(!)

[Christopher Cote]

Collin, how did the race go? Please tell us you kept the basket on!

Chris

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[RBW] Re: F.S 56 cm. Simpleone

[jandrews]

I agree about the SO.
I had a 58 QB and a 58 SO and I sold the QB.
There's something about that frame that rides like a Riv but also is alive 
and springy.
I'm waiting to get mine back from Bilenky where's its having a tube repair 
and repaint.




On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 12:08:43 AM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> I'm shocked that this is still available! My SimpleOne is hands down the 
> best bike I have ever ridden in my life. It's one of the few personal 
> possessions I'm putting in storage (i.e. long-term loan to a good friend) 
> when I move across the pond. The absolute perfect mix of stability and 
> sprightliness.
>
> Somebody snatch this one up!
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 11:36:54 PM UTC-4, Steve Butcher wrote:
>>
>> Bumping this and sweetening the deal with the addition of two bags 
>> including a Waxwing seat wedge and a Gilles Berthoud Alex Singer mini front 
>> rack bag. Both bags are excellent like new condition.  Both are light 
>> bluish grey color with honey leather trim. Funds from sale of this bike 
>> will go towards purchase of another bike. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB 52cm Clementine frame and fork

[REC (Roberta)]

Hi, Mark.

I just sent you a PM. 

Roberta

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[RBW] Re: Closest geared Riv to QuickOne?

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yes, that's his question.  

I'm not the font of Riv-knowledge that others on this forum are, but I have 
a Quickbeam, a Simpleone, and a Hilsen, and I lovelovelove the QB and the 
Hilsen and think their ride qualities are similar.  I don't know if they 
*should* be similar---seems to me the Hilsen should be a bit stouter---but 
to me they feel similar.  

Dave

On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 5:35:39 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
>
> I believe Eric is inquiring as to another Riv frame that has a similar *ride 
> quality *to the QB, independent of any gearing method.  Just the frame 
> itself. 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Closest geared Riv to QuickOne?

[Garth]

I believe Eric is inquiring as to another Riv frame that has a similar *ride 
quality *to the QB, independent of any gearing method.  Just the frame 
itself. 



On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 12:21:16 AM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> The SimpleOne up for sale (someone snatch it up!) brought up a question: 
> What's the closest geared Riv to the Quickbeam / SimpleOne? The 
> Rambouillet? Hilsen? Can anyone with experience comment on the ride quality 
> between the single (or double) speeds and the closest geared cousin?
>
> Eric
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