Re: [RBW] First Rivendell — sizing question

[Joe Bernard]

Mark probably got a Roadeo in his size down to 18 pounds, he's a little guy and 
that frame in all sizes seems built to be a Mark's Bike, i.e, thin light tubes. 
You won't get there with any other production Rivs, so pick the one you like 
looking at the most. 

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Re: [RBW] First Rivendell — sizing question

[bruce.herbit...@gmail.com]

 I recall that RBW advertised an 18 lb build by Mark on either the Roadini or 
Roadeo a few years ago. My '95 Road is currently 18 lbs. My Ram is 22.  I don't 
think a Hillborne could get that light. I used to have a Saluki and it ws in 
the 25 - 27 range. My point was that no steel bike was going to be super light 
as the OP mentioned weight for carrying on and off public transport.
On Wednesday, June 5, 2019, 04:28:21 PM CDT, 'jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners 
Bunch  wrote:  
 
 You'd have to work pretty damn hard to get either of those three models 
anywhere near 18lbs 
  



  

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell tandem builds

[M G]

@Paul BurnsI'm in the Berkshires, near GB / you can take a look in person.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: inexpensive silver or grey thin-ish pedals with reflectors for riding in sneakers

[REC (Roberta)]

Thank you, everyone.  I got a pair from a member here.  I appreciate all 
your information.  

Roberta

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 4:27:17 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:

> I think I have a pair (probably more) of a silver "campus pedal".  REI 
> used to carry these & my wife still has them on her Atlantis.  Reflectors, 
> squarish, some grippy bumps (not sharp spikes).  I'll check the parts stash 
> in a bit & let you know.
>
> dougP, collecting pedals since the toe strap days
>
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 8:37:35 AM UTC-7, REC (Roberta) wrote:
>>
>> Phil and I agreed to the sale of his AHH,  
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/bLEiFQYqK0c , 
>> and now I need pedals.  These $22 Clem Smith pedals, 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/vp-538-black-pedal , 
>> would be perfect if they came in grey or silver.  I ride in sneakers.
>>
>> Does anyone have similar inexpensive (but not cheaply made) thin grey or 
>> sliver pedals with reflectors that you want to sell?  They should be 
>> mechanically good, but doesn't matter if they are visually not perfect 
>> (they are pedals, after all).  If not, I'll order the Riv ones this Friday, 
>> June 7.  Other than esthetics, they are just what I'm looking for and if no 
>> one has anything I'll buy these and will be perfectly happy with them.
>>
>> I'm not looking to spend more than $30 including freight and they need to 
>> get to Philadelphia 19154 by June 14.  I'll be getting the bike on June 15 
>> and Phil has graciously offered to install them for me.
>>
>> Please PM me.  I'll be checking my spam folder too and will reply to all 
>> PMs that I received them.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roberta
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] First Rivendell — sizing question

[Bruce Herbitter]

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> On Jun 5, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> 
> "Racy?"  Surely not "racist."  
> 
>> On 6/5/19 4:56 PM, Fullylugged wrote:
>>  A racist build will be down to 18 lbs or so. 
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[RBW] Re: First Rivendell — sizing question

[Drw]

i agree that the weight between these frames is negligible in comparison to 
other components, racks, wheels, tires saddles etc. for me, this decision 
would come down to brake type. i like v's or canti's and slightly wider 
tire clearance, so i'd go with a sam. 

You and i have the same pbh. I rode a 56 sam (not sure they make them in 
that size anymore) and was very happy with drop bars. When i tried 
albatross bars, they made the bike feel too small. so if you were going 
with swept back bars, id size up to a 58cm.  i dont know how san marcos' 
are sized, but not  all rivs are sized similarly, so its worth a call to 
them to get on the proper size. 

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[RBW] Re: Suggestions for best cycling shades?

[Garth]

   This year I bought a set of Wiley X Saber Advanced sun-glasses and they 
offer a great wrap and shield. The nosepiece is and temples are adjustable 
so they can fit a wide range of faces. They may be marketed as 
shooting/safety/bulletproof glasses but they make great riding glasses. I 
bought the 3 lens kit model #308 that included a Light Rust, Grey and Clear 
interchangeable lenses plus hard case. I pretty much just wear the Light 
Rust which is about 50% VLT as it's nice even in full sun. You'd like the 
Grey option which are sold with that lens alone as model #302.  These are 
not flyweight flexy glasses so if that's what you prefer look elsewhere. 
The quality is top notch and I don't say that lightly. They stay where you 
put them, and even come with an optional strap if you want to use it 
instead of the arms. All the parts of these are replaceable, the most 
expensive being the lenses for $22. These beat the heck out of anything 
I've ever tried marketed for cycling and such. While scratch resistant, 
they warn you the lenses are not scratch proof as their primary purpose is 
protection from high velocity objects. They have no funny coating on the 
lenses either so they are very easy to clean. 

https://wileyx.com/saber-advanced-sunglasses-302


On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 4:52:24 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Asking on the RBW list after having asked on the Boblist, in case this 
> list has cycling glasses periti who don't read the Boblist.
>
> I've been using 2 pr Tifosi shades. One is photochromatic, and that one 
> seems to block the wind sufficiently to keep my eyes from turning red after 
> 10 miles; it also stays put securely on my Asian-ish* nose. But this pair 
> doesn't get dark enough for our mile-high sun in mid summer at noon -- when 
> the light makes the Santa Monica boardwalk at summer noon feel like the 
> winter solstice, and I'm not kidding. I use this pair on cloudy days and at 
> night.
>
> The other pair is also Tifosi, and dark enough, and this is my go-to pair, 
> but it doesn't block the wind sufficiently, and it doesn't stay on my nose. 
> This pair may be older, as it was at least second hand, original source 
> unknown. My eyes turn red, especially on windy days which kick up dust and 
> pollen; out here, we don't have twee little green grass verges, the sides 
> of the roads are gravel and sand.
>
> I realize that, after saddles and bars, shades are probably the most 
> personal choice in riding kit, but can anyone, particularly anyone of east 
> Asian ancestry, suggest some options?
>
> I'd happily ride bare-eyed, but again, dust and pollen and wind make that 
> impractical.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> *Filipino with a bit of Chinese and even a dash (so I was told) of Arab, 
> plus Scots Irish English.
>
> -- 
>
>
>
>
> **
>
>
>
>
>
> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And 
> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the 
> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.*
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[RBW] Re: First Rivendell — sizing question

[Ed Carolipio]

Just wanted to note that using a bike through multimodal transport isn't 
driven by the weight of the frame so I advise against using that factor to 
make a final decision.

Also, if you're considering the (now retired Soma) San Marcos, I suggest 
also considering the (mostly retired) Roadini as well. No 57cms on 
rivbike.com, but check these boards as they do come up for sale or call Riv 
since sometimes they have stock which they haven't posted.

Finally, I agree with other folks who've said to go bigger when in between 
two sizes.

--Ed C.

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Re: [RBW] First Rivendell — sizing question

[Eric Karnes]

Regarding weight, I agree with Jeffrey. I'm not familiar with the San 
Marcos, but I've had a 61cm MUSA Homer. Built up with reasonably light 
components (dura-ace / open pro wheels, old ultegra drivetrain, compass 
tires) it was around 24ish pounds without bags and water bottles. I 
personally found it nice and light for my tastes and honestly I don't think 
you'd notice a sizable difference vs the San Marcos (or the Hilsen) carting 
it on and off the train. I carried mine up and down two flights of stairs 
everyday with no problem. So get the frame you like best.

Regarding sizing, I will say that I too was in between sizes (a 62cm is my 
sweet spot) on the AHH and I regret going with the smaller 61cm. I've since 
sold it, and if I wasn't moving overseas, I would snatch up that 63cm that 
Bill has for sale. Although if it stays up for sale, I might buy it anyway 
and ship it over. Someone remove that temptation please!

Eric


On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 5:28:16 PM UTC-4, jeffrey kane wrote:
>
> You'd have to work pretty damn hard to get either of those three models 
> anywhere near 18lbs and fitted for practical commuting. I'd wager it's 
> impossible, actually .. and anyway, that's not the Riv ethos. The Sam or 
> Homer with fenders, at least one rack and a basket and a full compliment of 
> mid to upper tier parts: drive train, cockpit, rim, hubs, tires, etc. is at 
> best going to run 25 lbs (+) minimum. Nothing wrong with that ... but by 
> minimum I mean closer to 28 to 30 in real world weight.
>
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 5:07:40 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> "Racy?"  Surely not "racist."  
>> On 6/5/19 4:56 PM, Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>>  A racist build will be down to 18 lbs or so. 
>>
>> -- 
>> Steve Palincsar
>> Alexandria, Virginia 
>> USA
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Suggestions for best cycling shades?

[Ed Carolipio]

The Smith Pivlock Overdrive works really well for my very East Asian face: 
https://www.smithoptics.com/us/c/PivLock%E2%84%A2-Overdrive/p/OVPCDMMOB 
Lightweight, 
swappable lenses, and has really good grip when wet with sweat. Currently 
on my second pair.

I also ran the Oakley half jacket "Asian fit" for a long time: 
https://www.oakley.com/en-us/product/W0OO9153 IMO that sits better on the 
nose than the Smiths but they're a bit heavier and slips more when wet than 
the Smiths.


--Ed C.

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 1:52:24 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Asking on the RBW list after having asked on the Boblist, in case this 
> list has cycling glasses periti who don't read the Boblist.
>
> I've been using 2 pr Tifosi shades. One is photochromatic, and that one 
> seems to block the wind sufficiently to keep my eyes from turning red after 
> 10 miles; it also stays put securely on my Asian-ish* nose. But this pair 
> doesn't get dark enough for our mile-high sun in mid summer at noon -- when 
> the light makes the Santa Monica boardwalk at summer noon feel like the 
> winter solstice, and I'm not kidding. I use this pair on cloudy days and at 
> night.
>
> The other pair is also Tifosi, and dark enough, and this is my go-to pair, 
> but it doesn't block the wind sufficiently, and it doesn't stay on my nose. 
> This pair may be older, as it was at least second hand, original source 
> unknown. My eyes turn red, especially on windy days which kick up dust and 
> pollen; out here, we don't have twee little green grass verges, the sides 
> of the roads are gravel and sand.
>
> I realize that, after saddles and bars, shades are probably the most 
> personal choice in riding kit, but can anyone, particularly anyone of east 
> Asian ancestry, suggest some options?
>
> I'd happily ride bare-eyed, but again, dust and pollen and wind make that 
> impractical.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> *Filipino with a bit of Chinese and even a dash (so I was told) of Arab, 
> plus Scots Irish English.
>
> -- 
>
>
>
>
> **
>
>
>
>
>
> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And 
> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the 
> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.*
> --- J.R.R. Tolkien
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Re: [RBW] RD compatible with index shifters?

[Bill Lindsay]

Yes, it's an internal reset.  It's either fixable or it isn't.  If it's 
fixable I'm confident I can fix it.  I have no clue what your LBS can 
handle.  If you installed it and brought it to me, I would know what to do 
and would do it in under a minute.  Your mech not fixing it immediately 
tells me it's permanently broken or your mechanic is not experienced.  If 
it's not fixable, I'll tell you and send it back.

Bill

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 11:11:25 AM UTC-7, Dave Redmon wrote:
>
> Thanks for your offer, Bill. Is an internal "reset" of that inner ring  
> required? (I can't budge it even a little.)  Is that something my LBS can 
> handle?  To be fair, my LBS mech did not install the shifters on the 
> handlebars--I did.
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, 12:41 PM Bill Lindsay   wrote:
>
>> Dave 
>>
>> No problem. Just mail it to me and I’ll fix it and mail it back to you. 
>>
>> Bill
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Re: [RBW] First Rivendell — sizing question

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

You'd have to work pretty damn hard to get either of those three models 
anywhere near 18lbs and fitted for practical commuting. I'd wager it's 
impossible, actually .. and anyway, that's not the Riv ethos. The Sam or 
Homer with fenders, at least one rack and a basket and a full compliment of 
mid to upper tier parts: drive train, cockpit, rim, hubs, tires, etc. is at 
best going to run 25 lbs (+) minimum. Nothing wrong with that ... but by 
minimum I mean closer to 28 to 30 in real world weight.

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 5:07:40 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> "Racy?"  Surely not "racist."  
> On 6/5/19 4:56 PM, Fullylugged wrote:
>
>  A racist build will be down to 18 lbs or so. 
>
> -- 
> Steve Palincsar
> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA
>
>

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Re: [RBW] First Rivendell — sizing question

[Steve Palincsar]

"Racy?"  Surely not "racist."

On 6/5/19 4:56 PM, Fullylugged wrote:

  A racist build will be down to 18 lbs or so.


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[RBW] Re: First Rivendell — sizing question

[Will]

You may want to look at the $2000 Appaloosa here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/munGLjuSj9I

It fits your PBH and the price is great. 

You will love riding a Rivendell. They are wonderful. And beautiful. 



On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 2:01:07 PM UTC-5, Pathfinder wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
>
> I am in the process of trying to figure out which Rivendell will best suit 
> my PBH and needs. I intend to use it primarily for commuting (~10 miles per 
> day), getting around town, plus longer weekend rides. 
>
> The three bikes I’ve been considering are the Soma San Marcos (I know not 
> technically Rivendell), AHH, and Sam Hillborne. 
>
> My height is 5’9” and PBH is 85.5. This puts me between sizes on the AHH, 
> in the middle with Sam Hillborne, and unclear on the San Marcos. 
>
> At this point I would prefer a San Marcos if it fits well as it seems to 
> be a bit lighter which would be helpful for getting it on and off the 
> train, as well as price. The Sam seems to be the heaviest, but I’m square 
> in the middle of the PBH range for the 55 which sounds like it would fit 
> well. 
>
> Would the San Marcos 57cm be too large? If one is between sizes on an AHH, 
> would bigger or small be better? 
>
> Thank you!

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Re: [RBW] Suggestions for best cycling shades?

[Keith Weaver]

I wear Native Nanos, and bought a pair of the Nano2 (squared) a little
later. It seems like these have been discontinued, but Native has similar
frames available now. Many of their models include their sportflex (light
orange) lens as well as a dark lens. Lots of their frame styles provide
good wind protection, and the lens interchangeability can be handy.

REI carries them, you may be able to find the brand elsewhere as well.

Cheers,
Keith

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 1:52 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Asking on the RBW list after having asked on the Boblist, in case this
> list has cycling glasses periti who don't read the Boblist.
>
> I've been using 2 pr Tifosi shades. One is photochromatic, and that one
> seems to block the wind sufficiently to keep my eyes from turning red after
> 10 miles; it also stays put securely on my Asian-ish* nose. But this pair
> doesn't get dark enough for our mile-high sun in mid summer at noon -- when
> the light makes the Santa Monica boardwalk at summer noon feel like the
> winter solstice, and I'm not kidding. I use this pair on cloudy days and at
> night.
>
> The other pair is also Tifosi, and dark enough, and this is my go-to pair,
> but it doesn't block the wind sufficiently, and it doesn't stay on my nose.
> This pair may be older, as it was at least second hand, original source
> unknown. My eyes turn red, especially on windy days which kick up dust and
> pollen; out here, we don't have twee little green grass verges, the sides
> of the roads are gravel and sand.
>
> I realize that, after saddles and bars, shades are probably the most
> personal choice in riding kit, but can anyone, particularly anyone of east
> Asian ancestry, suggest some options?
>
> I'd happily ride bare-eyed, but again, dust and pollen and wind make that
> impractical.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> *Filipino with a bit of Chinese and even a dash (so I was told) of Arab,
> plus Scots Irish English.
>
> --
>
>
>
>
> **
>
>
>
>
>
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> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the
> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.*
> --- J.R.R. Tolkien
> ---
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[RBW] First Rivendell — sizing question

[Fullylugged]

The comparative weight of the frames matters much less than the weight of the 
components (especially the tires, which can get quite heavy) that you assemble 
on to it.  A reasonable steel bike build will be 22 lbs or more. A racist build 
will be down to 18 lbs or so. Of the models you mention and the use you 
describe, the Hillborne might be your best choice with plush fabric bead tires. 
Gravel Kings even.  But as a song goes, "You're a winner either way."  ("I Feel 
Lucky"  M. C. Carpenter)

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[RBW] Suggestions for best cycling shades?

[Patrick Moore]

Asking on the RBW list after having asked on the Boblist, in case this list
has cycling glasses periti who don't read the Boblist.

I've been using 2 pr Tifosi shades. One is photochromatic, and that one
seems to block the wind sufficiently to keep my eyes from turning red after
10 miles; it also stays put securely on my Asian-ish* nose. But this pair
doesn't get dark enough for our mile-high sun in mid summer at noon -- when
the light makes the Santa Monica boardwalk at summer noon feel like the
winter solstice, and I'm not kidding. I use this pair on cloudy days and at
night.

The other pair is also Tifosi, and dark enough, and this is my go-to pair,
but it doesn't block the wind sufficiently, and it doesn't stay on my nose.
This pair may be older, as it was at least second hand, original source
unknown. My eyes turn red, especially on windy days which kick up dust and
pollen; out here, we don't have twee little green grass verges, the sides
of the roads are gravel and sand.

I realize that, after saddles and bars, shades are probably the most
personal choice in riding kit, but can anyone, particularly anyone of east
Asian ancestry, suggest some options?

I'd happily ride bare-eyed, but again, dust and pollen and wind make that
impractical.

Thanks


*Filipino with a bit of Chinese and even a dash (so I was told) of Arab,
plus Scots Irish English.

-- 



**





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---
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[RBW] First Rivendell — sizing question

[Jeffrey B]

Are the Somas still available? 
Everywhere I looked is sold out.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: inexpensive silver or grey thin-ish pedals with reflectors for riding in sneakers

[dougP]

I think I have a pair (probably more) of a silver "campus pedal".  REI used 
to carry these & my wife still has them on her Atlantis.  Reflectors, 
squarish, some grippy bumps (not sharp spikes).  I'll check the parts stash 
in a bit & let you know.

dougP, collecting pedals since the toe strap days

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 8:37:35 AM UTC-7, REC (Roberta) wrote:
>
> Phil and I agreed to the sale of his AHH,  
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/bLEiFQYqK0c , 
> and now I need pedals.  These $22 Clem Smith pedals, 
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/vp-538-black-pedal , 
> would be perfect if they came in grey or silver.  I ride in sneakers.
>
> Does anyone have similar inexpensive (but not cheaply made) thin grey or 
> sliver pedals with reflectors that you want to sell?  They should be 
> mechanically good, but doesn't matter if they are visually not perfect 
> (they are pedals, after all).  If not, I'll order the Riv ones this Friday, 
> June 7.  Other than esthetics, they are just what I'm looking for and if no 
> one has anything I'll buy these and will be perfectly happy with them.
>
> I'm not looking to spend more than $30 including freight and they need to 
> get to Philadelphia 19154 by June 14.  I'll be getting the bike on June 15 
> and Phil has graciously offered to install them for me.
>
> Please PM me.  I'll be checking my spam folder too and will reply to all 
> PMs that I received them.
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta
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[RBW] First Rivendell — sizing question

[Karl]

I would ride a 59 San with a 84 PBH... so I would look there. My preference is 
to go bigger. Every time I have went smaller, it’s made me regret my purchase. 
What kind of riding would be more what would steer the decision than lifting to 
the train. Also, it would be worth a call to Will over at Rivendell. I see this 
as a life purchase, so spending an extra $400 for a true Rivendell matched by 
an employee who knows is totally worth it in my opinion. Hope this helps!

Karl
Nashville, TN

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Re: [RBW] RD compatible with index shifters?

[sameness]

Here's an exploded diagram 
 for the SL-BS77, and 
installation 
instructions  for the 
SL-BS78.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] First Rivendell — sizing question

[littlerico]

Hi all, 

I am in the process of trying to figure out which Rivendell will best suit my 
PBH and needs. I intend to use it primarily for commuting (~10 miles per day), 
getting around town, plus longer weekend rides.

The three bikes I’ve been considering are the Soma San Marcos (I know not 
technically Rivendell), AHH, and Sam Hillborne. 

My height is 5’9” and PBH is 85.5. This puts me between sizes on the AHH, in 
the middle with Sam Hillborne, and unclear on the San Marcos. 

At this point I would prefer a San Marcos if it fits well as it seems to be a 
bit lighter which would be helpful for getting it on and off the train, as well 
as price. The Sam seems to be the heaviest, but I’m square in the middle of the 
PBH range for the 55 which sounds like it would fit well. 

Would the San Marcos 57cm be too large? If one is between sizes on an AHH, 
would bigger or small be better?

Thank you!

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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Anthony Childs]

I love your Atlantis! What size frame is that?

Anthony Childs

> On Jun 4, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Kellie  wrote:
> 
> New iteration; Cowchipper bars, IRD levers with Shimano shifters and turkey 
> vulture gearing. Thanks Analog Cycles for all your help.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 11:29:13 AM UTC-8, Adam Leibow wrote:
>> hi all, i want to create a thread where you just post a picture of your 
>> rivendell(s) whenever you feel like it. hope this is OK w/ the mods. i love 
>> lookin at pics of em all day. i will start with my sam hillborne.
>> 
>> 
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[RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary not-meeting, Entmoot, Fellowship of the Rigs, get together and ho-down

[Matt Jacobs]

Hey Justin, any updates?

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 6:43:11 AM UTC+8, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> It was mentioned in the other thread that this is year 25! 
>
> There should be a gathering of some sort. Bay Area hopefully. Samuel P 
> Taylor? China Camp? 
>
> When? 
>
> Let’s plan! 
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Re: [RBW] Re: WT: 66cm Riv Ramboulliet for a 62-64cm Riv

[Sean Conroy]

Bike was purchased by another list member.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell tandem builds

[Jonathan K.]

Paul, I'm glad you revived this thread. I'm on the preorder list for a 
medium orange Hubbuhubbuh. I also ordered the Silver cranks and the 
Velocity wheels. 

As far as steerer length, why not leave it uncut for now? Just throw some 
spacers on there and cut it later on once you have the bar position dialed 
in.

MG, thanks for the detailed write up and picture. Most builds I've seen 
have some sort of swept back bar. Good to know other bars work well, too. I 
was leaning toward the new Wavie bar for mine. I recently put a set on my 
Surly Big Dummy and really like them on there, so I think I might try them 
on the tandem too. 

I'd like to echo Paul in requesting any build ideas, advice, reviews, 
pictures, etc. The new batch of frames are supposed to be shipping this 
month. Anyone else expecting/planning?

Thanks,
Jonathan

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell tandem builds

[Paul Burns]

Thanks, MG—beautiful bike and very helpful description.  Anyone else have an 
update/suggestions/advice/pics?  I’d be looking to ride it 80% on tarmac and 
20% on dirt roads in the rural hills of Berkshire County, Massachusetts, 
ideally with some sort of baskets/panniers to get groceries.

Also:  have PBH of 85, saddle height 75 and am 5’11” tall.  With a small 
Hubbuhubbuh, how much steerer tube do you think I should leave on to get Bosco 
bars (from Riv with stem built in) above the saddle??

Thanks,all

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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Those are Nitto Mustache bars perched on a Nitto 80mm Dirt Drop stem.
Paul
Midlothian, Va.

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> JA fenderless. Bars jacked up and fresh tape. Ready for summer. 
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Re: [RBW] RD compatible with index shifters?

[Joseph Bernard]

Dave, can you post a pic of the pieces as you see them now? I/we should be
able to tell you how it needs to go back together, or determine something's
drastically wrong with it.

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, 11:11 AM Dave Redmon  wrote:

> Thanks for your offer, Bill. Is an internal "reset" of that inner ring
> required? (I can't budge it even a little.)  Is that something my LBS can
> handle?  To be fair, my LBS mech did not install the shifters on the
> handlebars--I did.
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, 12:41 PM Bill Lindsay 
>> Dave
>>
>> No problem. Just mail it to me and I’ll fix it and mail it back to you.
>>
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Re: [RBW] RD compatible with index shifters?

[Dave Redmon]

Thanks for your offer, Bill. Is an internal "reset" of that inner ring
required? (I can't budge it even a little.)  Is that something my LBS can
handle?  To be fair, my LBS mech did not install the shifters on the
handlebars--I did.

Dave

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, 12:41 PM Bill Lindsay  Dave
>
> No problem. Just mail it to me and I’ll fix it and mail it back to you.
>
> Bill
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[RBW] Re: WTB: inexpensive silver or grey thin-ish pedals with reflectors for riding in sneakers

[Johnny Alien]

I have a set of those clem pedals that I would be happy to send you for 
free if you can't find a grey or silver set.  Mine are like the Riv kind in 
black and worn but in pretty good shape.  Spin great with no issues.  I am 
in central PA so no problem mailing them off to you if you decide to go 
that way.

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 11:37:35 AM UTC-4, REC (Roberta) wrote:
>
> Phil and I agreed to the sale of his AHH,  
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/bLEiFQYqK0c , 
> and now I need pedals.  These $22 Clem Smith pedals, 
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/vp-538-black-pedal , 
> would be perfect if they came in grey or silver.  I ride in sneakers.
>
> Does anyone have similar inexpensive (but not cheaply made) thin grey or 
> sliver pedals with reflectors that you want to sell?  They should be 
> mechanically good, but doesn't matter if they are visually not perfect 
> (they are pedals, after all).  If not, I'll order the Riv ones this Friday, 
> June 7.  Other than esthetics, they are just what I'm looking for and if no 
> one has anything I'll buy these and will be perfectly happy with them.
>
> I'm not looking to spend more than $30 including freight and they need to 
> get to Philadelphia 19154 by June 14.  I'll be getting the bike on June 15 
> and Phil has graciously offered to install them for me.
>
> Please PM me.  I'll be checking my spam folder too and will reply to all 
> PMs that I received them.
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta
>

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Re: [RBW] RD compatible with index shifters?

[Bill Lindsay]

Dave 

No problem. Just mail it to me and I’ll fix it and mail it back to you. 

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Re: [RBW] RD compatible with index shifters?

[Dave Redmon]

Hey Bill--

When I try to follow your directions, the lever is sticking almost straight
up just before the jacked up movable part of the mechanism comes up against
the fixed part, blocking access to a full joining of the two halves. This
doesn't look right to me, but I seem to be unable to "reset/adjust" the
movable section so it is oriented correctly.

Dave

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019, 6:43 PM Bill Lindsay  Dave
>
> The bar end "pod", the part that goes into the handlebar, has a square
> shaped protuberence on it.  The first piece you put on is a chrome base
> piece.  It looks like this:
>
>
> See how the external shape of that washer piece is round?  See how there's
> a raised inner part that is round, but it has a bump, a keyway part off
> that raised part.  See it?  When you put that chrome washer piece onto the
> square protuberance on the barcon pod, that bump, that key part is pointing
> DOWN.  It's not totally straight down, because that square thing will have
> a bit of an angle to it, but it is absolutely the MOST DOWN of the four
> possible choices.  When the washer is in that position, the shifter will
> fit onto the washer in only one position.  From there, you should find all
> your clicks.  You will conclude that you previously had that washer rotated
> 90 degrees and you lost 90 degrees of your clicks.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 4:12:24 PM UTC-7, Dave Redmon wrote:
>>
>> Joe, you may be onto something important. With the cable released from
>> the RD and the 9 speed bar end shifter in index mode, I hear only 3 or 4
>> clicks as I move the shifter from bottom to top.
>>
>> I've used similar Shimano BES over the years (mostly 7 speed), so I felt
>> comfortable installing this 9 speed shifter on the right side of the
>> handlebar.
>>
>> I took the BES apart and put it back together in the same way I've
>> successfully installed 7 speed units, but I get the same results. Where can
>> I find accurate instructions on how to do this?
>>
>> Btw, I've removed the barrel adjuster and installed the cable on the side
>> of the bolt nearest me--not behind the bolt as I usually do. (Bill from El
>> Cerrito had advised this in a similar situation some time earlier on this
>> board.)
>>
>> This us quite a learning experience for me.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019, 9:20 AM Joe Bernard >
>>> Going back over your original post, it sounds like it's indexing
>>> correctly, just not all the way across the cassette. I think your LBS
>>> mounted the bar-end in the wrong orientation and it's not clicking through
>>> all 9 steps. Everyone who's used these has made this mistake at least once.
>>>
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[RBW] WTB: inexpensive silver or grey thin-ish pedals with reflectors for riding in sneakers

[REC (Roberta)]

Phil and I agreed to the sale of his AHH,  
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/bLEiFQYqK0c , and 
now I need pedals.  These $22 Clem Smith pedals, 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/vp-538-black-pedal , 
would be perfect if they came in grey or silver.  I ride in sneakers.

Does anyone have similar inexpensive (but not cheaply made) thin grey or 
sliver pedals with reflectors that you want to sell?  They should be 
mechanically good, but doesn't matter if they are visually not perfect 
(they are pedals, after all).  If not, I'll order the Riv ones this Friday, 
June 7.  Other than esthetics, they are just what I'm looking for and if no 
one has anything I'll buy these and will be perfectly happy with them.

I'm not looking to spend more than $30 including freight and they need to 
get to Philadelphia 19154 by June 14.  I'll be getting the bike on June 15 
and Phil has graciously offered to install them for me.

Please PM me.  I'll be checking my spam folder too and will reply to all 
PMs that I received them.

Thanks,
Roberta

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 54.5 MIT AHH

[phil k]

The AHH is spoken for!

On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 11:17:33 PM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
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> I replied hopefully it went thru

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[RBW] Ergon grips/ map, waive, Jones bars

[Christopher Cote]

Correction, it's the Kalloy "Tourist" bar.

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[RBW] Ergon grips/ map, waive, Jones bars

[Christopher Cote]

I have the Ergon GP1 Biocork grips on Kalloy "Trekking" bars on my Atlantis. 
That's a 40-ish degree swept bar. I like it very much, but wish it was a tad 
wider. The grips are perfect, though. If whatbars.com ever gets the Wavie bar 
uploaded, I may see if that will give me a similar sweep, but more width.

Chris

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[RBW] Re: Ergon grips/ map, waive, Jones bars

[Sean Steinle]

I've found them excellent on Jitensha bars, which are shorter than the rest 
mentioned here, but similar shape. I do wonder about them on bars with a 
little more sweep, though. I feel like the design is optimisted for 
straight bars, but I've seen plenty on Map type bars. 

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Re: [RBW] Ergon grips/ map, waive, Jones bars

[Jeff Lesperance]

Ergon grips have become my first choice for any bar that will take them.
Ergon makes a grip specifically for bars that sweep back, wavie bars and
similar - I think it's the GC1 model - I've found it in both synthetic cork
and standard rubber.

That said, I've found sweep angle to be important for my wrists - I either
need a lot of sweep, nearly straight back, or not too much. I've used a
Jones bar, with Ergon grips, and the grips improved the experience for me,
but the sweep angle was still problematic and presented issues over long
rides. I gave up on my first set of Jones bars, but recently brought them
back into the picture when I bought a Jones bike - they've been working
well this time around with a reduced stem length, bringing the swept
portion of the bar closer to me. These are just some data points, both in
support of Ergon grips, but also for consideration of other elements that
may inform your comfort on wavie-like bars.

-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:41 PM Drw  wrote:

> I have a set of Jones copied soma bars on my bubbe (Jones was out of
> stock). They are similar to the wavie and map/ahearne bars. The latter I
> had on a different bike and loved.
> I can’t ride the bubbe even on short rides without wrist pain though.
> I’ve recently put Ergon grips on my brompton and they’ve been surprisingly
> revelatory, so I’m wondering if anyone uses them on a wavie shaped bar.
> Also, If so, did it solve any problems for you?
> The subtext of this is that my bubbe has a threadless crust cargo fork on
> it, so raising and lowering the bars is not as easy as with a quill. It
> does have a relatively short and up-jutting stem on it though, set at
> saddle height roughly.
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Re: [RBW] Ergon grips/ map, waive, Jones bars

[John McBurney]

I have Jones HBar on a Soma Wolverine that I commute on. I too had wrist
pain when the bar was taped and have put Ergon grips on with excellent
results.

John

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:41 PM Drw  wrote:

> I have a set of Jones copied soma bars on my bubbe (Jones was out of
> stock). They are similar to the wavie and map/ahearne bars. The latter I
> had on a different bike and loved.
> I can’t ride the bubbe even on short rides without wrist pain though.
> I’ve recently put Ergon grips on my brompton and they’ve been surprisingly
> revelatory, so I’m wondering if anyone uses them on a wavie shaped bar.
> Also, If so, did it solve any problems for you?
> The subtext of this is that my bubbe has a threadless crust cargo fork on
> it, so raising and lowering the bars is not as easy as with a quill. It
> does have a relatively short and up-jutting stem on it though, set at
> saddle height roughly.
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[RBW] Re: Grip Monarchs?

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I got a silver pair from Rivendell a few weeks ago to use with my new-to-me 
Joe Appaloosa. I had a pair of $20 Clem pedals installed as a place holder 
and these are a big improvement. I'm used to retention of some sort: toe 
clips and straps or SPD or Look/SL style. It is amazing how well the little 
pedal spikes retain your feet over all but the biggest bumps. The overall 
length of the pedals, 4 ½ ", makes for great support and I feel less like I 
need to wear SPD compatible shoes. Indeed, softer, running shoes do a 
better job of holding a position and the long, wide platform of the pedal 
obviates the need for a stiff soled shoe. 

Still getting used to them but very happy so far!
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

Interesting pedal arguments in this advertising heavy promotion of the 
Catalyst pedal:
https://pedalinginnovations.com
The Catalyst is a little longer than the Monarch at 5".

On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 10:57:48 AM UTC-7, Sean Steinle wrote:
>
> Haven't seen these talked about at all. Anyone tried 'em? I need pedals 
> for my Homer. https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedals-mks-new-2018 I 
> never tried Grip Kings, but have heared mixed reviews on them. 
>

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