[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Mark Schneider
So I see some people don't understand that a lighter tubing =a more responsive ride and more give when you hit large bumps.If they make a lighter tubed version there's a reason. If you plan on carrying more weight (or you weigh more)you get the heavier tubing, if you weigh less get the light

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Mark Schneider
Hi All, Yes I did order a Susie today. I talked to Vince who was, as always very helpful. I talked size mostly, my longish PBH for my height and my large feets but relatively light weight put me on a large Susie. I'm pretty excited obviously.this will make us a 4 Riv household and my first

[RBW] FS 51cm Joey Appaloosa

2019-11-18 Thread Joe Bernard
We'll need a location if you're interested in local pick up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] FS 51cm Joey Appaloosa

2019-11-18 Thread Denise Granger
I bought this Joey Frameset after selling my Sam Hillborne Frameset (too small). Used most of the parts from the original Sam build except for the Albatross bars, cork & bar end shifters, brake levers, seat, fenders (honjo replaced the ones that came with the Sam), pedals and the crankset

Re: [RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread David Bivins
Wow - thanks! I’ll be in touch. > On Nov 18, 2019, at 10:19 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY > wrote: > > Moose anything is great! As for NYC and their superior triangulation, the > moose triangle gives a solid spot to send a cable through, protecting your > bars, stem, shifters, brake levers,

[RBW] Re: Great Allegheny Passage and C.

2019-11-18 Thread Tom Horton
jacob, I'll second your endorsement. just rode my atlantis back to maryland from colorado and when people ask best part of the route, I have to say it was the GAP! C not shabby either, and is being increasingly upgraded for bikes vs its original footpath intent. and yeah, colorado was kinda

Re: [RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
Moose anything is great! As for NYC and their superior triangulation, the moose triangle gives a solid spot to send a cable through, protecting your bars, stem, shifters, brake levers, and bells. David, if you're looking to test the bars you're welcome to mine for a couple weeks, they're not

Re: [RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread David Bivins
I'm one of those who act like "bars bend and flex in hands like wet noodles." Well, not exactly, but I've been in two near-collisions in NYC traffic where I exerted enough force on the bars to twist them downward in the clamp. I love the stability of my boscomoose bars and I'm considering getting

[RBW] Wanted - 59cm Clem H

2019-11-18 Thread Jeffrey B
Ideally looking for a mustard or green complete but open to other ideas. Please PM me with what you have - thanks! Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread Joe Bernard
I'll think of a good one. I didn't mean to hijack this guy's Choco thread, sorry about that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch
Joe, Leah is secretly wishing that you do it in her desired red metallic sparkle paint. Some day down the road your step over Custom will process to her as a non top tube bike and she will be the eventual purchaser of it after all her Clem’s are gone and she looks for a new bike to compliment

[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread DHans
Joe, I really like British Racing Green. You could accent it with the cream color Riv uses on some models. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread Joe Bernard
Not bad eh? But I don't know what the wait is at Joe Bell, it's headed there tomorrow. Which means I have to pick a color..I cant decide! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread WETH
That was fast turn around for your custom! Congrats! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view

[RBW] IC: 62 CM Hunqapillar F/F/HS

2019-11-18 Thread Zack
Hey all - Am thinking about selling my 62 cm Hunq frameset. It's in great condition with a bit of beusage. Kidney bean and grey paint. Have some other things I could throw in (seatpost, crank, Paul brakes) if you are going to build it up from scratch and want a head start. Can add pics soon.

[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread Garth
A bullmoose is great if it's the set angle downward that you prefer, if not, not so much. Stiffness isn't everything, it depends on the rider preference. It's never as if bars bend and flex in hands like wet noodles, though some act like it does ! On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 1:43:02

[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread Joe Bernard
Oops, the ChocoMoose offer is cancelled. I just got word my custom is on the way, I may need these bars for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Garth
FWIW, The original orange Clementine is PERFECT , just utterly the perfect name and color to go with it. It is womans name, a fruit ? Either/or, it doesn't matter to me. Calling it a Clem-L(in this case it stands for LESS the Whole name !) seems like it was edited to suit some agenda

[RBW] Re: Great Allegheny Passage and C.

2019-11-18 Thread Steve Cole
Jacob, Sounds like a fabulous 4+ days. I don't generally think of record-setting cold days in November as very desirable. Since they allowed you to cycle the C without mud on a frozen, leaf-covered surface, I might change my mind. I'm wondering how cold it got at night and what kind of

Re: [RBW] Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread PaulS
The weight difference may not be significant; however, I've ridden stock frames (i.e. Surly) at 5lbs and custom frames at 4lbs. Not much difference. Surly is butted, but probably 9/6/9? Or something like that. Custom frame was at 8/5/8. It was a delight to ride. Felt so much more lively

[RBW] FS: Parts from the Part Bin

2019-11-18 Thread MCT
Cleaning out the parts bin and selling a few items. All prices include shipping. All parts have about 600 miles on them. Please let me know if you have any questions. Pictures at the following link - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kTQOo1R6Evv-ytwcnNHy9by2Xu65cpTS 1. Sugino Mighty

Re: [RBW] Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Mark Roland
Back when they decommissioned "Clementine" I wondered here why they didn't decommission "Clem Smith Jr." instead. But they probably sell more this way. To the OP's question, I think the weight differences will get lost in the laundry. (Or the sauce. It comes out in the laundry in the end). Some

[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread Adam Leibow
IME anything "-moose" is triangulated and therefore stiffer (can equate to harsher riding); the benefit is it's more rugged for heavy duty riding and stiffer (if you are a bigger rider with a heavy pedal this can be a pro). one other benefit of "-moose" is your bars will never slip down. On

[RBW] Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread Joe Bernard
The only differences are the Moose locks you into a 12cm stem reach and the bars in the 'flipped down' position (I've used both). The separate version gives you lots more options. If you might be interested in a used ChocoMoose gimme a holler, I have one hanging around here without a bike to

Re: [RBW] Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Leah Peterson
I hear that, Keith, I do. It’s a lot of money and a person should really love something to drop big money on it. But if I held to that way of thinking I wouldn’t be able to get the bike I want from Rivendell. They removed Clementine and put Clem L. If I said “I don’t know if I can live with

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Andy Beichler
I found the draft brochure on Grant's blahg and magnified it enough to read that he did not want to publicize the numbers because people make ill informed decisions based on them. I can understand that but if/when I pay $1600 for a frame I have never seen in person, I need something to base it

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Andy Beichler
Thanks, Patrick. I really like the looks of this frame. On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 1:03:43 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Andy asked if Gus would make a good all rounder. Yes. Absolutely. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 9:16:51 AM UTC-7, Andy Beichler

[RBW] 59 Clem L

2019-11-18 Thread Christopher Murray
And another $200 off with the email promo! Do it! Cheers, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread 'Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch
I can see Leah’s perspective on the names, but I have to agree with Paul that it should be exactly the bike he wants. I understand completely as for some reason I do not particularly care for the name Atlantis so am waiting for a Joe Appaloosa (I prefer the head badge as well) although I think

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Weston Hein
The Gus and Susie are showing up for me on the Geometries and Sizing page on Riv's site. Looks like 71.5 degree seat tube angles and 69 degree head tube across the whole size range. I really appreciate them posting this! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: tubeless tire repair & maint Q

2019-11-18 Thread James / Analog Cycles
Here's a set up guide I wrote: https://www.analogcycles.com/true-facts-components/analogs-tubeless-set-up-guide/ And a maintenance guide: https://www.analogcycles.com/true-facts-components/tubeless-maintainence-repairs/ and for folks just getting started, a parts guide:

[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-11-18 Thread ScaD
Nice! Is that Stanley Park? I rode that a couple weeks ago, but with a rental e-assist bike. Wish I had my Hillbourne for it, I felt like I was blowing past all the views and scenery. On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 9:23:21 PM UTC-5, Jason Fuller wrote: > > A couple snaps from today's ride

[RBW] Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread 'Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch
Can anyone speak to the practical difference riding between the choco and choco-moose bars? I've read the description on the Rivendell site but am curious to hear from others. I've recently switched from a drop bar Sam to a Clem L with a bosco bar and assume the choco would be somewhere in

[RBW] Re: compatibility question: double FD on triple

2019-11-18 Thread James / Analog Cycles
Best wide range triple for rings under 46t out there is the Shimano CX70, which Riv used to spec on completes. It still works great. Ultegra level, but technically designed for a CX bike. You can get it lower than any road triple mech out there, and it will shift down to a 20t. We've run it

RE: [RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Laing Conley
Green Gus – 54. Now I need to unlace the 48 spoke 700c Chukker rims from my 48 spoke 9 sp Phil/SON hubs and lace the polished 48 spoke 650b Cliffhangers on (special ordered these a while ago in anticipation). Let the parts reconfigurations begin! Laing Delray Beach FL From:

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Garth
Me too Alex . Bright Sun shiney popsicley ORANGE Now all I need is some warmth with the Sun Oh Summer where are you ? On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 12:27:07 PM UTC-5, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote: > > > > I scored an orange Susie!! > -- You

[RBW] Re: Various Gus Boots Willsen Protobike Photos

2019-11-18 Thread Wally Estrella
Links, Gusses and Bear (headbadge), OH MY! On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 10:34:21 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > To aid those curious about GBW, here are various photos and adventures > from my 9 months of riding. > > New Bike Day: > https://deaconpatrick.org/new-bike-day > > Spring

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Wally Estrella
On-the-fence? Yes, indeed I was. Off-the-fence now. And standing on the metalic green side of the pasture with an XL Gus! On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 7:18:48 AM UTC-5, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote: > > Last winter I had about a week on a Gus Boots Willsen. Here's the >

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
I scored an orange Susie!! [image: officegif.gif] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Joe Bernard
Thanks! Now back to your regularly scheduled thread, sorry for the tubeless hijack ‍♂️ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread PaulS
https://youtu.be/Omj1_-TNovg Start at 2:20. No need for the camping mattress garbage (more beneficial for fat bikes). Just rim tape and tube over it. I don’t inflate it prior to cutting like this guy. Just cut down the middle, wash off the powder, spray with soapy water, mount tire and

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Joe Bernard
What is split tubeless? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web

[RBW] Preorder For Gus & Susie is Up

2019-11-18 Thread Charlie R
At age 71, Susie is my 6th and probably last Rivendell bike purchase... Charlie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread PaulS
Thanks Alex. I forgot the original was 27.5, not 29. 70mm BB drop isn’t bad at all. 2.2” tires should work very well on it. I know some complain about the low BB on the ECR but I love it. Just watch the pedals riding through rock gardens. No issues. Tubeless is simple. Good rim tape (Stans

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Joe Bernard
No compressor. I gave mine away because the neighbors and the cat weren't impressed with the amazing amount of noise; if I can't pump a tire with a good floor pump then I'm dealing with something outside the range of how I understand working on bicycles. -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
What size compressor were you using when you tried to seat tires on your Cliffhanger rims without tubes? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 8:13:18 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I can confirm the tubeless madness with Cliffhangers. My 27.5 set came > (used) with

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Joe Bernard
I can confirm the tubeless madness with Cliffhangers. My 27.5 set came (used) with tubeless tires mounted and one time I let the air get too low..can't get the front to seal up again. Now I've switched to bigger WTB Byways and they won't tubeless, either, I bought tubes. I give up! -- You

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Chris L
Definately a trail bike! 70mm of BB drop for a 29 x 2.8 tire! On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 9:47:15 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote: > > > The Geometry page has been updated with Susie and Gus ! > > https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry > > > Myself I'll likely go with the Alex DM24 rims and T610

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Garth
The Geometry page has been updated with Susie and Gus ! https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry Myself I'll likely go with the Alex DM24 rims and T610 hubs from Rich@Riv as I don't ride tubeless and the Cliffhanger's tubeless design can be difficult to mount/dismount tires, according to a

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
Deacon Patrick, you Wile E. Coyote. I thought that might have been you. When I tried to convince Riv it would make more sense to just let me ship that bike home, they indicated it was already spoken for. Outsmarted by another enthusiast  Paul, I won’t pretend to be able to make an educated

[RBW] Various Gus Boots Willsen Protobike Photos

2019-11-18 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
To aid those curious about GBW, here are various photos and adventures from my 9 months of riding. New Bike Day: https://deaconpatrick.org/new-bike-day Spring Snow: https://deaconpatrick.org/spring-snow Riding Kings Crown Easter Morn https://deaconpatrick.org/riding-kings-crown-easter-morn I

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yes, Paul. Cliffhanger rims. (I bought the prototype Alex test rode). They are plenty wide (you may want to read Jan's take on rim width being a near non-issue in terms of squirmyness.). With abandon, Patrick On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 6:57:57 AM UTC-7, PaulS wrote: > > What rims were

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread PaulS
How was the Bb height compared to the ECR (which already has a low low BB). I’m sure it added to the feeling of stability as you said in the blog. Wondering how this bike would feel with 2.2” tires. If that would drop the BB too much. Great write up, by the way. -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
Paul, I'm 99% certain that's right. They would certainly be a good choice for this bike. Also, a less fancy/expensive non-MUSA choice would be an Alex DM25. On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 8:57:57 AM UTC-5, PaulS wrote: > > What rims were on the Gus? Cliffhanger? > > Contemplating putting

[RBW] Re: Reccomendation for a car rack

2019-11-18 Thread PaulS
I would really recommend reconsidering a hitch rack. Easier to install, secure, no paint rub/marks on the car, and they perform so much better. One big issue you may run into is locking your bike. With a hitch rack, it’s easy to do. My rack came with integrated locks. Others, just cable lock to

[RBW] Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread PaulS
What rims were on the Gus? Cliffhanger? Contemplating putting down for a Gus myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: 68 cm Rambouillet--Blue and lovely

2019-11-18 Thread 'Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch
Al, I sent you a PM. I am interested if you are interested in shipping. Thanks, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
Last winter I had about a week on a Gus Boots Willsen. Here's the blogI think it'll help if you're in the market or on-the-fence. http://www.yellow.haus/blaaag Cheers, Alex in Rochester, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"