Re: [RBW] Of Bikes and Bread

[tuolumne bikes]

Sourdough pancake recipe attached. The pancakes are on the thin side and 
far tastier than the norm, and making them includes feeding the starter. My 
wife is a sourdough nut--crust, crumb, size of the holes, whole 
wheat...always experimenting and rarely completely satisfied. It's all 
great bread to me.

Carl

On Tuesday, January 21, 2020 at 5:26:37 PM UTC-8, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Gah, Philip, we’d be 400 pounds and diabetic if we did that. I do not know 
> how the settlers brought their starter along, but I know they slept with it 
> at night to keep it warm. There’s a guy somewhere in the PNW who died many 
> years ago, but his starter lives on. He used to have a mail-order starter 
> club. He’d send you his starter in the mail! His friends have kept it alive 
> and distribute it out for nothing but the cost of shipping, just as he did. 
>
> I bake bread twice per week. 
>
> Joe - #clemsaregems is totally my hashtag and you know it. 
>
> PS I decided we can grow Rivendell one Clem at a time. I just need some 
> really exciting hashtags. So far I have: #clemsaregems and 
> #betterlivingthroughclemistry... 
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad 
>
> > On Jan 21, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Philip Williamson  > wrote: 
> > 
> > That’s awesome! Shame the school can’t provide a vegetarian cheese 
> sandwich or something on Hamburger Day. 
> > 
> > How often do you bake bread? It looks from the recipe like the starter 
> rhythm could work without discarding any if you baked twice a day? Or no? 
> > 
> > I’m not suggesting we SHOULD, just imagining how the people-and-yeast 
> symbiosis might have worked a few generations ago. 
> > 
> > Philip who doesn’t need another hobby 
> > Santa Rosa, CA 
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[RBW] Winter Cleaning Grab-Bag: Bike Stuff, Camera, Electronics, more!

[Brett Callahan]

Shawn, is the saddlebag support from YBS silver or black? 
Thanks, 
Brett  

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Re: [RBW] 69 cm A Homer Hilsen for $1100 on eBay (not mine)

[Ian A]

Good research and decisiveness, Reid. Looks like you acquired a Toyo (or 
Waterford?) Hilsen for less than Cross Check money. The photos aren't well 
shot, but the frame and paint look nice. Seat tube decal might be slightly 
marred if I'm seeing that properly, but that will save you the trouble of 
marring it. Components look great too.

Looking forward to seeing photos. 

IanA Alberta Canada



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[RBW] Re: If you need a smallish footprint front rack tested to hold up to 22lbs/10kg...

[Jason Fuller]

I'll be putting one on my Hillborne this spring, so I can move my Rawland 
demi-porteur rack to my Clem. Rene Herse stuff is all beautifully made, 
practical and functional stuff - but you certainly pay for it. 

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[RBW] Winter Cleaning Grab-Bag: Bike Stuff, Camera, Electronics, more!

[Shawn Granton]

Happy Tuesday, RBW List! It’s time for the never-ending sorting out what I 
need and don’t, and purging the don’t. Check out what I got, get in touch 
if you want.

Important Notes:

   - All prices listed DO NOT include shipping. Shipping will be done via 
   USPS First-Class, Priority, or Parcel Post, depending. I’ll ship anywhere, 
   but you’ll pay a lot if you are outside the US. In the US, the minimum 
   shipping price will be $4 and go up from there. The more you buy, the 
   better the shipping rate. Please include your Zip Code in the query so I 
   can sort shipping prices.
   - Payment can be done via PayPal or Square Ca$h.
   - All photos for items can be found here: 
   
https://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/albums/72157712760193717


If you are interested in something or have questions, private message me, 
or email me at urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com and include your zip code.

*Free for postage:*

   - Velo Orange “Kraton” basket weave grips.
   - Sony Walkman, WM-FX488. Cassette deck plus four band radio: 
   AM/FM/Weather/VHF TV (fwiw). Battery door broken off, you can still power 
   it if you rubber band the battery in the compartment. Radio works, don’t 
   know about the tape deck.


*$5*

   - Saddle cover: White with blue bicycles, made by “Hippie Thread”. Fits 
   a B17 snugly.
   - Steel lunch box/food tin: Like a Trangia mess tin, except: steel, with 
   side-clasps, and made in Thailand. 1-3/4″x6″-1/4×5″
   - Eton Raptor Radio. Emergency radio that is recharged either by solar 
   panel or via USB. AM/FM/Weather. Antenna and clip have broken off, but 
   radio still works.
   - Johnson fanny pack. Green check, comes with strap. (Came from Rivelo 
   "garage sale" awhile back, I believe it was a Riv prototype.)


*$10*

   - Rustines Constructeur Grips, white rubber. Never mounted/used.
   - Dia-Compe ENE water bottle cage. Stainless steel, has tabs so it can 
   be mounted to frames without bosses (mounting equipment NOT included.)
   - Barska 10×25 waterproof binoculars/field glasses. Comes with case.
   - REI Co-op Sit Pad. Self-inflating and insulated, no leaks as far as I 
   can tell. 16.5 x 12 x 1.5 in. Packs to 3.5 x 8 in. Comes with packing pouch.


*$20*

   - Velo Orange Leather Saddle. I believe it’s a Model 6 
   

 
   (VO don’t make ’em anymore), a narrow racy saddle that’s trimmed on the 
   edges. Please note the “bulge” in the leather near the nose, hence the low 
   price.
   - Ideale faux-leather saddle. Nope, not leather, but a coated fabric, 
   sort of like the Brooks Cambium but I can’t say for sure. Wider, touring 
   style saddle comparable to a B-67/B-68. Wolber stamped on side.
   - Yellow Bird Society saddle bag support. Similar to those made by 
   Carradice, but made in Camas, Washington. Mounts to saddle rails via 
   included clamp.


*$25*

   - Nitto Saddlebag Wire Guard. The type sold by Rivendell, mounts to seat 
   stays. Prevents saddle bag from rubbing against brake cable (if you have 
   cantis, esp.)
   - Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS6 Digital Camera. Nice li’l digital 
   point-and-shoot, 12 megapixels. Includes blank SD card, battery, battery 
   charger, and case.

Best,
Shawn

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Re: [RBW] Of Bikes and Bread

[Joe Bernard]

"Joe - #clemsaregems is totally my hashtag and you know it."

I may have seen it somewhere and borrowed it for a minute 來

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Re: [RBW] Of Bikes and Bread

[Leah Peterson]

Gah, Philip, we’d be 400 pounds and diabetic if we did that. I do not know how 
the settlers brought their starter along, but I know they slept with it at 
night to keep it warm. There’s a guy somewhere in the PNW who died many years 
ago, but his starter lives on. He used to have a mail-order starter club. He’d 
send you his starter in the mail! His friends have kept it alive and distribute 
it out for nothing but the cost of shipping, just as he did.

I bake bread twice per week. 

Joe - #clemsaregems is totally my hashtag and you know it.

PS I decided we can grow Rivendell one Clem at a time. I just need some really 
exciting hashtags. So far I have: #clemsaregems and 
#betterlivingthroughclemistry... 



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> On Jan 21, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Philip Williamson  
> wrote:
> 
> That’s awesome! Shame the school can’t provide a vegetarian cheese sandwich 
> or something on Hamburger Day.
> 
> How often do you bake bread? It looks from the recipe like the starter rhythm 
> could work without discarding any if you baked twice a day? Or no? 
> 
> I’m not suggesting we SHOULD, just imagining how the people-and-yeast 
> symbiosis might have worked a few generations ago.
> 
> Philip who doesn’t need another hobby
> Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: [RBW] Of Bikes and Bread

[Joe Bernard]

Of course! #clemsaregems 

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[RBW] If you need a smallish footprint front rack tested to hold up to 22lbs/10kg...

[tc]

...then you might look at the Rene Herse UD-1 
 
(disc) or UD-2 

 
(canti).  Nice looking, weighs not a lot, can get 2 diff length struts.  
Per Jan, on *this page, 
*  "We 
test all Rene Herse racks to 22 pounds (10 kg) – each rack has to survive 
100,000s of cycles on a test rig with the weight strapped tightly onto the 
rack. In the real world, the tires absorb the shocks, and the load can move 
a bit, too, so the stresses on the rack are lower. Basically, we guarantee 
that a Rene Herse rack won’t fail even in very hard use. We back that up 
with a 5-year warranty 
."

Tom

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[RBW] Of Bikes and Bread

[Philip Williamson]

That’s awesome! Shame the school can’t provide a vegetarian cheese sandwich or 
something on Hamburger Day.

How often do you bake bread? It looks from the recipe like the starter rhythm 
could work without discarding any if you baked twice a day? Or no? 

I’m not suggesting we SHOULD, just imagining how the people-and-yeast symbiosis 
might have worked a few generations ago.

Philip who doesn’t need another hobby
Santa Rosa, CA

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Re: [RBW] Of Bikes and Bread

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Joe - me, too. I was allowed to ride back home (and so was Baby Bear) with the 
boys to drop E off. I could tell he was telling the truth about being a biker. 
Most kids don’t know how to ride bikes well; they don’t have polite etiquette 
or street smarts, and they can never keep up. Not so with E. He did scare both 
The Clem Rider and me at the start. He was so excited about going DOWN Killer 
Hill he decided he should start by pedaling as fast as he could as we began our 
descent. He did this with my sons and me screaming from behind, “Nooo!! 
Don’t! Slow down!!!” 

He’s got a well-enjoyed Roadmaster that was pretty rickety. I’ve taken school 
kids down that hill before and witnessed pieces of their bikes fly off. 

The Clems were gems, of course.  

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Re: [RBW] Of Bikes and Bread

[Leah Peterson]

JAS, thanks, I do love The Clem Rider. I keep waiting for him to really give me 
trouble but there is no hint of it yet. He’s nearly 14, but he still has time! 
I know that no woman will ever be good enough for him, though he would 
disagree. Pity my future daughter-in-law! 藍

Roberta, such a great way to spend an afternoon! That kid is a genius; I 
couldn’t believe how much he knew - he had done so much reading before coming 
for his lesson. I started to introduce concepts and terminology and he was 
finishing my sentences. He was an absolute joy to teach. 

He asked for a slice of sourdough toast with butter so The Clem Rider served it 
to him. E asked me, “What is this butter? This is not like my butter!” 

“It’s Irish butter from grass fed cows,” I said. “See how yellow it is? That’s 
good butter.” 
What 8th grader do you know who would be so discerning? !?

Phil - have you gotten your recipe right? You are a total love for helping your 
wife this way. Food sensitivities and allergies can be so alienating. 

Kent - if you’ve got good haunts for sourdough, that is hard to beat! I know 
it’s an art. I can’t pretend mine is as quality as theirs; I have watched so 
many bakers work with their sourdough - like 48 hours and several rise times. 
Per loaf. I’m not that committed. Plus, it seems like you either love to cook 
or love to bake, but few are masters at both. It’s cooking for me!

If only we all were neighbors and could share starter and bike rides, life 
would be perfect. ❤️



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> On Jan 21, 2020, at 2:15 PM, JAS  wrote:
> 
> Not only is ClemRider a cool, good looking young man, he’s a sweetheart as 
> well. What a compassionate friend.  Good going, Mom and Dad!  Can’t wait to 
> hear how the baking lesson went. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Of Bikes and Bread

[Leah Peterson]

Mas, I’m up to my same old tricks, and a couple new ones. Instagram folks are 
in the know about my recent misadventures on a hiking trip, but all is well! 

There’s a lot of difference in quality and flavor of commercial yeast vs 
starter. Some would say starter has a lot more health benefits as well; I 
generally find this to be true of most homemade things. 

It took me, a complete novice, one month to get my starter going. That was 5 
years ago. Keep at it; it’s worthwhile. 

Once, I relented and bought hamburger buns. I made a real show of reading the 
science experiment that was the ingredient list. After stumbling through the 
complex chemicals - er - ingredients on the label, I asked the boys, “Do you 
know the ingredient list in my bread?” 

“Flour. Water. Salt.”

I bet I’ve purchased bread 5 times in 5 years. Baking bread is just part of my 
routine now. You can do it!

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> On Jan 21, 2020, at 1:40 PM, masmojo  wrote:
> 
> I wondered what you've been up to!
> 
> I've tried a couple times to get my "starter" started using recipes off you 
> tube and failed miserably will try again in a month or two. 
> I was trying to figure out what the difference between a sourdough started 
> and yeast for pizza dough!?
> I'll try your recipe next!
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[RBW] Re: Narrow-wide 1x chain ring question

[Joe Bernard]

That's the setup on my Clem L: Regular 42t ring and Paul Chainkeeper. Works 
great and I'm not convinced I even need the keeper for street riding (but it's 
Paul and looks cool ).

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Re: [RBW] 69 cm A Homer Hilsen for $1100 on eBay (not mine)

[James Warren]

Awesome. Can’t wait too see your good photos! There is little better than a 
FULLY LUGGED original HIlsen. And yours will be orange!

Outstanding buy. Have fun.


> On Jan 20, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Reid Echols  wrote:
> 
> Welp, I suppose I made a bad investment, then. Offer made and accepted...
> 
> If the 65cm size (ideal for me) winds up to be off, I can at least promise 
> better photos :) 
> 
> Reid in Austin 
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[RBW] Re: NOS Rivet Leather Saddle w/Ti rails $135

[Paul M]

The saddle sold. Thanks.

On Tuesday, 21 January 2020 04:15:32 UTC-8, WETH wrote:
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> Replied off list yesterday. 

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[RBW] Re: Narrow-wide 1x chain ring question

[Clayton.sf]

If silver is a priority a basic (not narrow wide) non-pinned and ramped 
ring will likely work just fine. If you end up dropping chains frequently 
adding a chainkeeper would help keep it on. 

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 5:54:56 AM UTC-8, tc wrote:
>
> I'm contemplating a 1x8/9 setup, and cannot seem to find a narrow-wide 
> chain ring that meets all of these criteria:
>
>- 36+ teeth
>- 5-bolt 110 bcd (not deal breaker, but nice to reuse existing arms)
>- Fits non-direct mount, square taper JIS crank arms, like the Silver 
>or Sugino brand cranks many of of us have already
>- 8/9/10 spd chain compatibility
>- Silver color (anodized or polished)
>- Good quality
>
> Hopefully some of you have searched for something like this before and 
> found it.
>
> Sugino doesn't seem to make narrow-wide rings, or at least Google 
> Translator and their pictures lead you to believe that.
>
> Raceface & Wolftooth don't make this in silver.  As an aside: Wolftooth 
> recommends using a 10spd chain in 1x9 setups so the (slightly tighter) 
> chain holds their ring better.
>
> VO doesn't seems to offer a narrow-wide ring.
>
> Hope doesn't offer this in silver.
>
> I love White Ind. cranks and rings, but they're direct-mount arms.
>
> Some company could fill a niche here, I'm thinking...
>
> I have a Sugino XD3BX-701D 
>  46/36 on order, 
> which I may end up using for a 2x setup instead, but wanted to see if any 
> of you have found a 1x crank and narrow-wide ring per above. 
>
> Thanks for your thoughts, and Happy New Year!
> Tom
>
>
>

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[RBW] Of Bikes and Bread

[JAS]

Not only is ClemRider a cool, good looking young man, he’s a sweetheart as 
well. What a compassionate friend.  Good going, Mom and Dad!  Can’t wait to 
hear how the baking lesson went. 

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[RBW] Re: Of Bikes and Bread

[masmojo]

I wondered what you've been up to!

I've tried a couple times to get my "starter" started using recipes off you 
tube and failed miserably will try again in a month or two. 
I was trying to figure out what the difference between a sourdough started and 
yeast for pizza dough!?
I'll try your recipe next!

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[RBW] Re: Narrow-wide 1x chain ring question

[Adam Leibow]

IME oven cleaner was not strong enough to remove the black finish from a 
Raceface chainring, so someone recommended lye, which is serious stuff. I 
never ended up buying/using lye, but it's probably a strong bet to remove a 
finish from an anodized part. 

Also IME most or all narrow wide chainrings are all branded for no fewer 
than 10 speeds; you will probably not find one stamped 9speed or 8speed. 
They'll still work fine with an 8spd or 9spd chain, just make sure your 
drivetrain is clean and lubricated adequately. 

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 5:54:56 AM UTC-8, tc wrote:
>
> I'm contemplating a 1x8/9 setup, and cannot seem to find a narrow-wide 
> chain ring that meets all of these criteria:
>
>- 36+ teeth
>- 5-bolt 110 bcd (not deal breaker, but nice to reuse existing arms)
>- Fits non-direct mount, square taper JIS crank arms, like the Silver 
>or Sugino brand cranks many of of us have already
>- 8/9/10 spd chain compatibility
>- Silver color (anodized or polished)
>- Good quality
>
> Hopefully some of you have searched for something like this before and 
> found it.
>
> Sugino doesn't seem to make narrow-wide rings, or at least Google 
> Translator and their pictures lead you to believe that.
>
> Raceface & Wolftooth don't make this in silver.  As an aside: Wolftooth 
> recommends using a 10spd chain in 1x9 setups so the (slightly tighter) 
> chain holds their ring better.
>
> VO doesn't seems to offer a narrow-wide ring.
>
> Hope doesn't offer this in silver.
>
> I love White Ind. cranks and rings, but they're direct-mount arms.
>
> Some company could fill a niche here, I'm thinking...
>
> I have a Sugino XD3BX-701D 
>  46/36 on order, 
> which I may end up using for a 2x setup instead, but wanted to see if any 
> of you have found a 1x crank and narrow-wide ring per above. 
>
> Thanks for your thoughts, and Happy New Year!
> Tom
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Of Bikes and Bread

[phil k]

Awesome! I've been trying to make einkorn sourdough bread for my wife due 
to her wheat sensitivity. It's been quite a year long challenge to get it 
right.

On Monday, January 20, 2020 at 6:43:23 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> This is a bike story that starts out as a school lunch story. 
>
> School lunch is always a crapshoot - we all remember the days, don’t we? 
> The rise and fall of my elementary school happiness could be determined by 
> the menu in the school cafeteria. Would it be the celebrated chicken patty 
> on a bun? Or would we suffer through the dreaded sauerkraut and sausage? 
> Yes, school lunch is a crapshoot alright, and all the more so if you come 
> from a religious background that necessitates a vegetarian tray. 
>
> My son, whom we’ll call #TheClemRider, sits next to one such kid, who 
> we’ll call E. Inevitably, the evil trolls of the school lunch program will 
> serve  E something decidedly non-veg - like a hamburger. E will dump his 
> tray and look longingly into #TheClemRider’s lunchbox of fresh and homemade 
> things and beg a morsel or two. #TheClemRider, who has a golden heart, will 
> always share. And sometimes, we pack extra for E. And this is the pattern 
> we have had for their entire 8th grade year. 
>
> The thing that E wants most out of my son’s lunchbox is his sourdough 
> bread. I’ve been baking sourdough for years, and I use it to make the boys’ 
> sandwiches. So much does E love this bread that he asked for the recipe. If 
> you know about sourdough, you know you’ve got to have and keep a starter. 
> So, I finagled a way to send the recipe and the starter with #TheClemRider. 
> The first day, E threw the starter in the trash. He would need to clear 
> this with his mother, he said, so she wouldn’t “think it was crack.” On our 
> second attempt, the starter made it home with E where he attended to it and 
> promptly killed it. He came back to my son asking for a 3rd dose of 
> starter. 
>
> I said no more. New deal: E comes to our house and I will give him a 
> one-on-one lesson in my kitchen and THEN send him home with his 3rd 
> attempt. Surprisingly, E agreed. 
>
> E told #TheClemRider that he is not the only one who bikes - he considers 
> himself *quite* accomplished and rides his bike all over his neighborhood. 
> Killer Hill would not be a big deal for him. It’s a school holiday, and E 
> got permission to ride his bike to our house and get his sourdough lesson. 
>
> But what stands between E and his sourdough lesson is a monster we call 
> Killer Hill. Killer Hill is a mile long punisher with several hundred feet 
> of elevation gain. The roadies use it as a challenging workout. The rest of 
> the population avoids it. We use it to get to and from school. We know the 
> burning of lungs and straining of legs required to conquer Killer Hill. I 
> am not optimistic. 
>
> #TheClemRider worries. He knows the trials of that hill and has rarely 
> seen any other kid ride it. He told E he would bike down to E’s 
> neighborhood and ride up Killer Hill with him. I wonder what type of bike E 
> will be using, and if he can carry anything. I tell #TheClemRider to look 
> out for E at the crossings for the side neighborhoods.  I have been told I 
> am not allowed to check on them - #TheClemRider was very strict about this 
> - but I’m tracking his iPhone and they appear to be moving very, very, VERY 
> slowly. 
>
> ***Update! They have arrived! E made a fine showing with a final burst of 
> speed at the end, and then, heaving, asked me, “HOW do you DO that hill?!? 
> That was terrifying.” 
>
> Gotta go, Friends. We’ve got sourdough to make! 
>
>   
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Narrow-wide 1x chain ring question

[tom coppedge]

Glad it was useful, Joe. For me, finding a 5-bolt 110bcd narrow wide with a
silver finish (chrome or anodized) proved difficult.

Tom

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:18 PM Joe Bunik  wrote:

> Thanks Tom for that link to Garbaruk - hadn't heard of them, and they
> have some interesting niche rings (like direct-mount N-W for XTR
> M950!).
>
> Here's a USA-based company which has their own spin on things - I
> don't know quite how I feel about a sharktooth profile!
> https://usamadeco.com/collections
>
> =- Joe Bunik
> Walnut Creek, CA
>
> On 1/19/20, tc  wrote:
> > *Garbaruk *
> > <
> https://www.garbaruk.com/110-bcd-5-bolt-round.html?category=3=10-58=
> >makes
> >
> > chainrings that meet all of the requirements I listed.
> >
> > Free shipping to U.S. (from Poland).
> >
> > They also have a good blog post about narrow/wide chainrings
> > <
> https://www.garbaruk.com/blog/articles-1/post/the-state-of-narrow-wide-chainrings-1
> >
> > .
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 8:54:56 AM UTC-5, tc wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm contemplating a 1x8/9 setup, and cannot seem to find a narrow-wide
> >> chain ring that meets all of these criteria:
> >>
> >>- 36+ teeth
> >>- 5-bolt 110 bcd (not deal breaker, but nice to reuse existing arms)
> >>- Fits non-direct mount, square taper JIS crank arms, like the Silver
> >>or Sugino brand cranks many of of us have already
> >>- 8/9/10 spd chain compatibility
> >>- Silver color (anodized or polished)
> >>- Good quality
> >>
> >> Hopefully some of you have searched for something like this before and
> >> found it.
> >>
> >> Sugino doesn't seem to make narrow-wide rings, or at least Google
> >> Translator and their pictures lead you to believe that.
> >>
> >> Raceface & Wolftooth don't make this in silver.  As an aside: Wolftooth
> >> recommends using a 10spd chain in 1x9 setups so the (slightly tighter)
> >> chain holds their ring better.
> >>
> >> VO doesn't seems to offer a narrow-wide ring.
> >>
> >> Hope doesn't offer this in silver.
> >>
> >> I love White Ind. cranks and rings, but they're direct-mount arms.
> >>
> >> Some company could fill a niche here, I'm thinking...
> >>
> >> I have a Sugino XD3BX-701D
> >>  46/36 on
> order,
> >>
> >> which I may end up using for a 2x setup instead, but wanted to see if
> any
> >>
> >> of you have found a 1x crank and narrow-wide ring per above.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your thoughts, and Happy New Year!
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [RBW] Of Bikes and Bread

[Roberta]

Yes!  It shows how much we can do if we REALLY want to.  Also, what a 
fabulous way to spend a day.  BBDD, did E let you know how his bread turned 
out, or at least how much he liked making it?

On Monday, January 20, 2020 at 8:56:52 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> E made it! I'm so impressed 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Narrow-wide 1x chain ring question

[Joe Bernard]

Speaking of such matters, I have one of these things I'm not using. Joe Bunik 
sold it to me for probably too low a price cuz I asked, then it turns out I 
don't know what the heck 4-bolt bcd cranks I have! This one is 94bcd, 32t NW, 
black, brand new, will sell for whatever shipping is. 

Text me for pics and brand (I can't remember right now). 
Joe Bernard
415 786 4623 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Narrow-wide 1x chain ring question

[Joe Bunik]

Thanks Tom for that link to Garbaruk - hadn't heard of them, and they
have some interesting niche rings (like direct-mount N-W for XTR
M950!).

Here's a USA-based company which has their own spin on things - I
don't know quite how I feel about a sharktooth profile!
https://usamadeco.com/collections

=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 1/19/20, tc  wrote:
> *Garbaruk *
> makes
>
> chainrings that meet all of the requirements I listed.
>
> Free shipping to U.S. (from Poland).
>
> They also have a good blog post about narrow/wide chainrings
> 
> .
>
> Tom
>
> On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 8:54:56 AM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>>
>> I'm contemplating a 1x8/9 setup, and cannot seem to find a narrow-wide
>> chain ring that meets all of these criteria:
>>
>>- 36+ teeth
>>- 5-bolt 110 bcd (not deal breaker, but nice to reuse existing arms)
>>- Fits non-direct mount, square taper JIS crank arms, like the Silver
>>or Sugino brand cranks many of of us have already
>>- 8/9/10 spd chain compatibility
>>- Silver color (anodized or polished)
>>- Good quality
>>
>> Hopefully some of you have searched for something like this before and
>> found it.
>>
>> Sugino doesn't seem to make narrow-wide rings, or at least Google
>> Translator and their pictures lead you to believe that.
>>
>> Raceface & Wolftooth don't make this in silver.  As an aside: Wolftooth
>> recommends using a 10spd chain in 1x9 setups so the (slightly tighter)
>> chain holds their ring better.
>>
>> VO doesn't seems to offer a narrow-wide ring.
>>
>> Hope doesn't offer this in silver.
>>
>> I love White Ind. cranks and rings, but they're direct-mount arms.
>>
>> Some company could fill a niche here, I'm thinking...
>>
>> I have a Sugino XD3BX-701D
>>  46/36 on order,
>>
>> which I may end up using for a 2x setup instead, but wanted to see if any
>>
>> of you have found a 1x crank and narrow-wide ring per above.
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts, and Happy New Year!
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: New 55cm 700c Atlantis. Same as my 55cm 700c Appaloosa?

[j.schwartz]

Anyway, it will be interesting to see the new Appaloosa's too.
This new 55, 700c Atlantis looks to my untrained eye to be a slightly 
longer Appaloosa with a more than slightly longer wheelbase.




On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 7:14:25 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> 5.4mm of rake?  LOL. 54mm, also known as 5.4cm, is correct
>
> Bill metric Lindsay
> El Cerrito Ca
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Re: [RBW] Of Bikes and Bread

[Kent Peterson -- Eugene, Oregon]

Great story. The recipe and starter care tips give me added respect for all 
the bakers out there.

I can barely keep houseplants alive so I'm happy to leave the sour dough 
care to several of the fine local bakeries we have here in Eugene.

Kent Peterson
Eugene, OR USA

On Monday, January 20, 2020 at 3:48:29 PM UTC-8, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> And in case you wanted the recipe: 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] 69 cm A Homer Hilsen for $1100 on eBay (not mine)

[Reid Echols]

It’s the Goldilocks dilemma, Mark :) 

I could set up most of them to be most things, but I like bikes set up for 
specific things. If Homer is fast enough, it’ll be a drop bar quick bike that 
fits me a bit better than the Ram. If not, and it clears my preferred tire, 
it’ll take the Sam’s commuting gig. Not the worst problem to have to solve...

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Re: [RBW] 69 cm A Homer Hilsen for $1100 on eBay (not mine)

['Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Isn't the AHH most similar to the Sam, but in between them?  Looks like 
your choices are get rid of both or keep all three. 
>
>
>
> The trick now will be to decide whether I sell the Sam or my Ram if the 
> AHH works out...
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: For Sale: high-end Paul/Nitto/Shimano parts

[Jeffrey B]

All sold, thanks!

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Re: [RBW] 69 cm A Homer Hilsen for $1100 on eBay (not mine)

[Reid Echols]

Hi Mark, 

We will indeed, if it ends up being too large. I had the seller send me a 
photo, though, and it looks like he was measuring to the lug point for the 
67cm number. Center to center is spot on at 65, to my eyes. At the price I 
offered, I figured it was worth the risk, so we shall see what we shall 
see. 

The trick now will be to decide whether I sell the Sam or my Ram if the AHH 
works out...

Reid 

On Tuesday, January 21, 2020 at 7:20:36 AM UTC-6, Mark Etze wrote:
>
> I see the seller changed the title description from 69cm to 67cm. Did you 
> ask him to measure it again Reid?  I think you're safe with it being a 
> 65cm, it just didn't look that big to me but that could be do to the bad 
> camera angles. If ends up being a 67cm, let's talk.
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Re: [RBW] 69 cm A Homer Hilsen for $1100 on eBay (not mine)

['Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I see the seller changed the title description from 69cm to 67cm. Did you 
ask him to measure it again Reid?  I think you're safe with it being a 
65cm, it just didn't look that big to me but that could be do to the bad 
camera angles. If ends up being a 67cm, let's talk.

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[RBW] Re: NOS Rivet Leather Saddle w/Ti rails $135

[WETH]

Replied off list yesterday. 

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