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[RBW] Re: Dyno light installation, which side of the do you prefer?

2020-04-25 Thread Metin Uz

Depends a little on your dynamo hub. Some hubs have the connector on the 
right side, so mounting the lamp on the left requires a longer cable run, 
and potentially exposes it to damage. Latest SON hubs can be flipped, so 
the connector can be on the left.

--Metin

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:18:20 AM UTC-7, Jeffery S wrote:
>
> I'm installing a Son Edelux light to a Nitto M12 front rack running with a 
> basket and can't decide if the light should be mounted on the left or right 
> side of the wheel. The mounts are a little low, so there is going to be a 
> shadow from the wheel/basket on either side. A front center mount would 
> sort this issue out by itself, but there isn't one on this rack.
>
> Most lights I've seen on the web are mounted on the left (towards oncoming 
> traffic in the US). However, I've also read about some who prefer it on the 
> right (curb side) to be better seen by drivers stopped at the right of an 
> upcoming intersection. I've had a driver only glance left and turn into me 
> like this (in daylight) so this kind of makes sense IMO.
>
> Any experience/thoughts/preferences for this situation?
> Thanks, Jeff
>

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Re: [RBW] Fancy Cheviot!

2020-04-25 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 8:10:51 PM UTC+8, Mark Roland wrote:
>
>
> But if the almost timid bend at the end of the stay on the Glorius is like 
> clearing the throat, I guess the new Chev is full burst of song. …
>

It depends on size. The pic you have is a smaller Glorius/Wilbury. The 
larger ones have more pronounced swoops.


I'm slightly mystified as to the 700c wheel size, as in the past, 
> increasing chainstay length and wheel size as the bike frame get bigger has 
> been a design consideration. But I know Grant favors the 60cm Chev and the 
> 59cm Clem L, and I suspect part of that attraction is the large, roll over 
> it, 29er-esque feel of the wheels with fat tires. That extra bit of inertia 
> goes well with the longer wheelbases on these bikes. I just can't fit the 
> 59 Clem in my living room.
>

Are all sizes using 700C?

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Re: [RBW] 30 Days of Biking!

2020-04-25 Thread Leah Peterson

My northern blood wanted to call it a culvert. A really, really big culvert. 
But I looked up arroyo, and you were RIGHT! 

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> On Apr 25, 2020, at 9:46 PM, masmojo  wrote:
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> 
> 
> That "Wash" makes an old Skateboarder like me's mouth water. Looks very Clean 
> & Smooth with good transition. In LA that would be a river, In Houston it's 
> Bayou, in New Mexico it's an arroyo (I believe) ;-)
> 
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Re: [RBW] 30 Days of Biking!

2020-04-25 Thread Joe Bernard

Yep, we called it the river bed in LA. I remember it as a very isolated and 
spooky place when I was a kid, but that may reflect on what LA/Long Beach was 
like as a whole in the '70s. I saw that pic of Leah trying to walk down into it 
and I was like, "Don't go in there, Leah!"

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Re: [RBW] 30 Days of Biking!

2020-04-25 Thread masmojo


That "Wash" makes an old Skateboarder like me's mouth water. Looks very 
Clean & Smooth with good transition. In LA that would be a river, In 
Houston it's Bayou, in New Mexico it's an arroyo (I believe) ;-)



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[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?

2020-04-25 Thread Ian A

LBleriot wrote: "Having participated in another online memorial for a friend 
lost to the pandemic, I’ve learned to appreciate every day I get to spend with 
my family.  I work for a healthcare system in the middle of the crisis, and 
I’ve learned from doctors and nurses what brave really means.  I’ve learned 
that riding my bike is both meaningless and means everything right now."

Healthcare workers are taking such risks and paying the price of those risks. 
I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Thank you for all you do.

IanA

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Re: [RBW] What have you learned during the isolation?

2020-04-25 Thread Ray Varella

I encounter walkers taking up entire paths quite frequently. 
Some ignore bells. 
So far, none of them have ignored a skidding tire. 
I lock up my rear brake when I’m way behind them, they always turn around and 
then move to the side. 
I think it’s the impending possibility that someone is about to crash into them 
that alerts them. 

Bells are friendly and they work with civilized people. 

Ray

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

2020-04-25 Thread Drw

I’ll also just chime in and say I also have a 56cm 650b MUSA Atlantis with 
longish but not super long chainstays. It’s the best bike I’ve ever owned.  
Unless it didn’t fit, I can’t imagine anyone regretting this. 

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-04-25 Thread Joe Bernard

It's spelled correctly like Sheldon told us to do it, it's a derailer, it 
derails things. The French are so... FRENCH

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Re: [RBW] What have you learned during the isolation?

2020-04-25 Thread Andrew Erman

I am finding people walking in the middle of the streets of residential 
neighborhoods (even ones that are all apartment buildings) - not to avoid 
anyone, just walking in the middle of the street.  I am presented with the 
dilemma of how to get by them and keep social distance.  I am frankly at a loss 
why people are doing this.  I presume they are afraid of contracting the virus, 
but not of getting hit by a car?  The big bike bell from RBW gets people’s 
attention.  

I am trying not to get too irritated because it ruins my ride.

Andy



> On Apr 25, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> Interesting new scars?! Did you get hit by a car???
> 
> I’ve been wanting to chime back in here again about more new things I’m 
> learning. 
> 
> 1. I despise vehicles. I thought I disliked them before but I despise them 
> now. It’s been quieter on the roads and I’ve been enjoying audiobooks with my 
> air pods, and you know what? Cars go screaming by me so loudly that I can’t 
> hear my books. And my Apple Watch alerts me that the decibels I’m 
> experiencing will cause eventual hearing loss. I wonder how many of us have 
> or will have some damage to our hearing from the noise of traffic.
> 
> 2. While I’d never hurt a pedestrian, I am in favor of making them 
> uncomfortable when they deserve it. Now, I am sure some of you will want to 
> chastise me, but don’t bother because it will fall on my increasingly deaf 
> ears.
> 
> I usually have the paths to myself, but in quarantine people are out in 
> droves. Initially, I’d smooth over all the situations where pedestrians were 
> wildly out of etiquette. I was out there apologizing when they were in the 
> wrong lane and I was approaching, more apologizing when they didn’t 
> understand the bell, apologizing when their off-leash dog lunged for me in 
> passing, apologizing if they startled as I passed by...  Now I’m getting 
> tougher out there, because I’ve had enough.
> 
> Last night, I’m on a paved MUP and the couple in front of me (and their dog) 
> are taking up the ENTIRE path. This path is WIDE, meant for two-way traffic, 
> and the couple’s roving was extreme. He’s one one side, she and the dog are 
> on the other and all 3 of them are weaving. Though this MUP is a 2-way, I 
> cannot pass by.  I’m riding uphill and hate to break momentum, but I slow 
> w down and wait for them to notice me. The husband darts off to the 
> right and the wife looks irritated with me and freezes. I ride by silently 
> and slowly, refusing to diffuse the situation with words or a smile.  I’m 
> sure they felt caught off-guard. I’m sure it was uncomfortable. Good. They 
> are on a shared path and they aren’t sharing. After being startled maybe 
> they’ll pay attention and be courteous.
> 
> Now, if you are a child, anything goes. Those little buggers are out there 
> with their scooters, bikes, plasma cars, strollers, wagons and Power Wheels. 
> They’re careening all over and veering and swerving and causing mayhem. 
> 
> And I will smile and wave at them all. 殺 Go wild, munchkins!
> Leah
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:57 PM, aeroperf  wrote:
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:57 PM, aeroperf  wrote:
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

2020-04-25 Thread Matthew P

Thanks Nate!
Yes, I have 2.35" Knobby Nicks and Magic Mary's on the 56 cm 650b so G Ones 
measuring 2.4" fitting I believe.
In my response to Karl I mentioned a 58 cm Atlantis that also differs from 
my and Nate's 56's in that it was Toyo made, 700c.
I'm trying to get a finger on its max tire width.  The latest Atlantis 
seems to max out at 700c x 2.2"
https://theradavist.com/2019/01/ultra-romance-and-his-rivendell-atlantis-mountain-bike/
-Matthew
P.S. Buy Andrew's Clem  :-)



On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 4:49:40 PM UTC-7, Andrew Huston wrote:
>
> Someone buy my Clem and I'll get this thread closed out!
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 7:34:28 PM UTC-4, Nate in Oakland wrote:
>>
>> I just measured my g-one speeds (on my 56 650b musa Atlantis) at 2.4 
>> inches with my calipers.
>>
>> Nate
>>
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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-04-25 Thread Mark Roland

I don't know. Grant doesn't strike me as much of a Francophile. He won't 
even spell derailleur correctly.

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 4:58:58 PM UTC-4, Jan O. wrote:
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> "Deux Chevuit", how perfect.
>
> Jan
> San Francisco, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?

2020-04-25 Thread Leah Peterson

Interesting new scars?! Did you get hit by a car???

I’ve been wanting to chime back in here again about more new things I’m
learning.

1. I despise vehicles. I thought I disliked them before but I despise them now.
It’s been quieter on the roads and I’ve been enjoying audiobooks with my air
pods, and you know what? Cars go screaming by me so loudly that I can’t hear my
books. And my Apple Watch alerts me that the decibels I’m experiencing will
cause eventual hearing loss. I wonder how many of us have or will have some
damage to our hearing from the noise of traffic.

2. While I’d never hurt a pedestrian, I am in favor of making them
uncomfortable when they deserve it. Now, I am sure some of you will want to
chastise me, but don’t bother because it will fall on my increasingly deaf ears.

I usually have the paths to myself, but in quarantine people are out in droves.
Initially, I’d smooth over all the situations where pedestrians were wildly out
of etiquette. I was out there apologizing when they were in the wrong lane and
I was approaching, more apologizing when they didn’t understand the bell,
apologizing when their off-leash dog lunged for me in passing, apologizing if
they startled as I passed by... Now I’m getting tougher out there, because
I’ve had enough.

Last night, I’m on a paved MUP and the couple in front of me (and their dog)
are taking up the ENTIRE path. This path is WIDE, meant for two-way traffic,
and the couple’s roving was extreme. He’s one one side, she and the dog are on
the other and all 3 of them are weaving. Though this MUP is a 2-way, I cannot
pass by. I’m riding uphill and hate to break momentum, but I slow w
down and wait for them to notice me. The husband darts off to the right and the
wife looks irritated with me and freezes. I ride by silently and slowly,
refusing to diffuse the situation with words or a smile. I’m sure they felt
caught off-guard. I’m sure it was uncomfortable. Good. They are on a shared
path and they aren’t sharing. After being startled maybe they’ll pay attention
and be courteous.

Now, if you are a child, anything goes. Those little buggers are out there with
their scooters, bikes, plasma cars, strollers, wagons and Power Wheels. They’re
careening all over and veering and swerving and causing mayhem.

And I will smile and wave at them all. 殺 Go wild, munchkins!
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:57 PM, aeroperf wrote:

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:57 PM, aeroperf wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Bill Schairer

Patrick, lots of questions, may I answer below?

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 6:07:39 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Bill L, that's a nice Roadeo, even nicer with the new wheels. Bill S, 
> thanks for these apercus, and I welcome your enthusiasm; *I* think 
> *exalte's* are *nice* people! 
>
> It won't be this year, since the very long-maturing 3-speed road bike 
> project is now under way and my money and time will be spent sorting that 
> one out, but I do very much want to resurrect my old Libertas (60 X 56 c-c, 
> exactly my size in level top tubes, and 5.9 lb f + f with steel campy 
> headset!), and at just-turned-65, I believe I must commit to riding 
> top-line tubulars before I die. It's good to hear that they ride so well, 
> and I am looking forward -- into the distance -- to eventually riding them.
>
> Bill S: I was very pleased to hear that a few goatheads didn't result in 
> leaks even without sealant. I've had this happen with very stout tires, Big 
> Apples, but not with light tires; so does one say that the thorns didn't 
> penetrate the latex tubes, or that the thorns did penetrate but the latex 
> kept close around them and blocked leakage?
>

I assume that the thorns did not penetrate the latex tubes.  My assumption 
is the latex is far more flexible than the butly and only deformed rather 
than punctured.  In each case I expected the tire to deflate after pulling 
the goathead out but that never happened.  Since you are in goathead 
country, I should probably add that all three were picked up in my front 
tire and I became aware of them within only a few rotations, apparently 
before they could do their real damage. 

>
> Another question: One PITA of riding tubes filled with sealant is getting 
> a puncture that the sealant doesn't seal. You are left with a casing full 
> of spludge, which of course splatters all over you and the nearby landscape 
> when you remove the tube. (I carry a rag precisely to wipe up such 
> messes.)* 
>
The reason I ultimately decided to do my sealant injections at home.  
Initially, I rode with one spare and sealant but switched to two spares and 
no sealant.  Although, when I toured I carried 4 spares and sealant but 
never needed any of it.  I was paranoid. 

>
> Thus, when you have a tire where the tube is sewn up inside the casing, 
> and you get a puncture that the sealant doesn't seal -- doesn't the sealant 
> leak out into the casing? And when casing is sewn shut over tube -- what 
> then? I'd imagine you have a plus-que-bloody mess, right? 
>

I encountered this with my used FMB and thus came to a couple conclusions.  
First, if the tire doesn't hold air long enough to be able to ride at least 
a little bit, don't use sealant because then you will, yes, get a mess.  I 
was foolish enough to administer sealant more than once thinking maybe 
another dose would do the trick.  The resulting mess made my subsequent 
repairs much more difficult but not necessarily messy.  I use effetto 
mariposa sealant because it has no ammonia.  I was told by LBS that ammonia 
in sealant will eventually dissolve latex tubes.  I have no idea if that is 
true but they lost a sale because all their sealant had ammonia.  Anyway, 
it was this mistake and mess that is largely responsible for the lumpiness 
of my repair.  First I had trouble extracting the old tube and also pulling 
the new tube through.  I finally had to open up the tire in several places 
and use a dowel to fish/force out the solidified sealant mess.  Naturally, 
I had to do a lot more sewing and being that this was my very first sew 
job, well, it is lumpy.  But, hey, this was after all a learning 
experience.  From reading, it does seem different products have different 
messiness properties which is why I specified which I use. 

>
> And more than this, when you go to remove the punctured tube, at least in 
> my clincher experience, the ongoing minor leakage as the sealant takes its 
> time to seal recurrent punctures means that you are faced, when time comes 
> to remove the tube, with a tube that is firmly glued to the inside of the 
> casing. Does this happen with tubulars, or are tube and casing so tightly 
> pressed that the sealant can't get out and roam around inside the tire, so 
> that leakage is minimal?
>

I have no experience with this yet.  In the above experience, I didn't feel 
my difficulties were a result of any gluing properties but more an issue of 
clogged passages.  I kind of removed some balls of dried up sealant, enough 
to get the old tube out and new tube in.  Maybe there is still some left in 
the tire?

>
> My remarks bear on sealants even more than on tubulars, but my principal 
> interest is whether sealants make tubulars viable. List traffic seems to 
> weigh "pro." I'd be interested in hearing more from others who ride top 
> line tubulars in goat head areas.
>
> My experience is definitely positive.  I'm PRO! I have read that others 
> have had less satisfactory

[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?

2020-04-25 Thread LBleriot

Having participated in another online memorial for a friend lost to the 
pandemic, I’ve learned to appreciate every day I get to spend with my 
family.  I work for a healthcare system in the middle of the crisis, and 
I’ve learned from doctors and nurses what brave really means.  I’ve learned 
that riding my bike is both meaningless and means everything right now.

On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 7:20:52 PM UTC-4, aeroperf wrote:
>
>
> It’s the first time I’ve started a thread, but I’d be interested to hear 
> about what you’ve learned that’s new to you.
>
> I live on a 93 mile bike trail that’s now closed.   The bike trail, being 
> rails-to-trails, had no corners (or real hills).  So for five years I’ve 
> been cranking away in relatively straight lines.
>
> Now that I’m riding 4 laps through a small neighborhood, I’m learning how 
> to take corners at speed without pedal strikes.
> My 2015 Sam had no problem.  My 2019 Homer taught me that you had to 
> either open up the corner a little or “outside foot down, inside foot up” 
> coast through it.  They have the same 170mm crank arms, so it is probably 
> both the bottom bracket drop and the smaller wheels - 650 vs 700 - that put 
> me lower.  And 15mph might not be “speed” for others, but it is interesting 
> in tight quarters for me.
>
> So what have you learned?  Riding Zwift is fun?  Riding solo is no fun?  
> Cleaning clothes is easier without chain grease?
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Patrick Moore

Ted: As I said in an earlier post, my Libertas + tubular wheel project is
scheduled for 2021, if I and the world last that long, but I'd be
interested in seeing a photo of and hearing your price for your tubular
wheelset -- if you'll consider shipping them. If the price is low, I might
be interested even if it means paying a shop to pack.

Would you consider selling and shipping just the rims?

Others: what can all y'all tell me about Arc en Ciel rims?

Thanks.

Patrick "but it's really too early" Moore

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 7:17 PM ted  wrote:

> Re: association of tubulars with "roadies"
> I guess really the association should be with "racers" though I think some
> folks use of the term "roadie" implies a MCFRB riding racer wana be. Back
> in the day high performance meant tubulars, but mostly only racers or racer
> wana bees bothered with them (or even knew of them). Back then racing
> pretty much meant road racing, though of course "road" racing includes
> things like Paris - Roubaix and strada bianca. There was always cyclocross
> too and from what I understand tubulars ruled there as well and still do.
> But isn't cyclocross almost by definition racing? Most folks not racing
> oriented didn't bother with the expense and perceived trouble of tubulars.
> Over time narrower and higher performance clinchers became available and
> most amateur racers and wana-bee types moved to those. By the early 90s
> when I wanted to get my campi high flange / arc-enciel tubular wheels
> rebuilt I had to traipse all over silicon valley before I found a shop that
> wanted to do it instead of trying to convince me to just go to clinchers.
> These days I don't know what a typical tubular rider would be except
> perhaps a professional racer.
>
> Anybody in the sf bay area interested in a pair of old lightly used light
> tubular wheels? Mavic hubs (freewheel rear)  gl280 front gl330 rear rims.
> There's an AC aluminum freewheel on the rear at the moment.
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 4:48:04 PM UTC-7, Bill Schairer wrote:
>>
>> Also being a Bill, I’ll volunteer my answer to Ted’s question.  I have
>> two sets of the Vlaanderen tires, each set with about 1800 miles times 4
>> gives me about 7200 tire miles? I have had one puncture too large for
>> sealant -glass cut.  The tire was at about the rated mileage limit and well
>> worn but, unlike Bill L, I had no previous experience repairing tubulars so
>> doing the repair was my opportunity for a learning experience.  REMA patch
>> and glue worked and the tire is still in service.  All other punctures (not
>> sure how many but not a lot) have been fixed with sealant.  I’ve opted to
>> ride with 2 spares and save sealant injections for home.  I’ve changed
>> exactly one tire on the road, the aforementioned flat. All other punctures
>> were slow enough that I got home or they sealed from previously
>> administered sealant.  So far, I’ve come to the conclusion that latex tubes
>> are more puncture resistant than butyl and leak more slowly when
>> punctured.  I’ve also pulled 3 goat heads out of tires with no sealant
>> without any resulting loss of pressure.  I don’t think I can ever remember
>> doing that with a clincher.
>>
>> I also did a complete tube replacement on a used FMB tire that I acquired
>> with a leak.  That involved cutting a new $15 tube in half, pulling it
>> through and gluing it back together. Probably got the instructions on that
>> from Sheldon Brown.  It took a long time but, again, this was a learning
>> experience.  That tire has about 90 of my miles on it.  Not the greatest
>> repair job - a little lumpy - but definitely worth it.
>>
>> I am also puzzled by a couple comments I’ve seen regarding these tires
>> being for “roadies.”  I don’t consider myself a roadie - never raced -
>> always been a commuter, tourer and now recreational rider too.  I’ve ridden
>> my tubulars on and off road and will ride them under any conditions I would
>> ride a clincher.  Besides that, I believe many cyclocross racers use
>> tubulars and I shouldn’t think they are roadies.  Just saying.
>>
>> I apologize as I know I have a tendency to get carried away with my
>> enthusiasm but reading the positive experiences of others who debunked the
>> notion that tubulars are something exotic not worth the trouble finally
>> pushed me to give them a try.  I mean, there are similar discussions
>> regarding tubeless? Besides, the more people who will give them a shot, the
>> better chance we will get or keep more choices.  I highly recommend them
>> for anyone who enjoys working on their bicycles.  If somebody else does all
>> your work, maybe not the right choice.
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[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?

2020-04-25 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch

I see people discovering they can move in normal clothes: hiking, running, 
biking in non-athletic apparel. That is a delight to see!

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread ted

Re: association of tubulars with "roadies"
I guess really the association should be with "racers" though I think some 
folks use of the term "roadie" implies a MCFRB riding racer wana be. Back 
in the day high performance meant tubulars, but mostly only racers or racer 
wana bees bothered with them (or even knew of them). Back then racing 
pretty much meant road racing, though of course "road" racing includes 
things like Paris - Roubaix and strada bianca. There was always cyclocross 
too and from what I understand tubulars ruled there as well and still do. 
But isn't cyclocross almost by definition racing? Most folks not racing 
oriented didn't bother with the expense and perceived trouble of tubulars. 
Over time narrower and higher performance clinchers became available and 
most amateur racers and wana-bee types moved to those. By the early 90s 
when I wanted to get my campi high flange / arc-enciel tubular wheels 
rebuilt I had to traipse all over silicon valley before I found a shop that 
wanted to do it instead of trying to convince me to just go to clinchers. 
These days I don't know what a typical tubular rider would be except 
perhaps a professional racer.

Anybody in the sf bay area interested in a pair of old lightly used light 
tubular wheels? Mavic hubs (freewheel rear)  gl280 front gl330 rear rims. 
There's an AC aluminum freewheel on the rear at the moment.

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 4:48:04 PM UTC-7, Bill Schairer wrote:
>
> Also being a Bill, I’ll volunteer my answer to Ted’s question.  I have two 
> sets of the Vlaanderen tires, each set with about 1800 miles times 4 gives 
> me about 7200 tire miles? I have had one puncture too large for sealant 
> -glass cut.  The tire was at about the rated mileage limit and well worn 
> but, unlike Bill L, I had no previous experience repairing tubulars so 
> doing the repair was my opportunity for a learning experience.  REMA patch 
> and glue worked and the tire is still in service.  All other punctures (not 
> sure how many but not a lot) have been fixed with sealant.  I’ve opted to 
> ride with 2 spares and save sealant injections for home.  I’ve changed 
> exactly one tire on the road, the aforementioned flat. All other punctures 
> were slow enough that I got home or they sealed from previously 
> administered sealant.  So far, I’ve come to the conclusion that latex tubes 
> are more puncture resistant than butyl and leak more slowly when punctured. 
>  I’ve also pulled 3 goat heads out of tires with no sealant without any 
> resulting loss of pressure.  I don’t think I can ever remember doing that 
> with a clincher. 
>
> I also did a complete tube replacement on a used FMB tire that I acquired 
> with a leak.  That involved cutting a new $15 tube in half, pulling it 
> through and gluing it back together. Probably got the instructions on that 
> from Sheldon Brown.  It took a long time but, again, this was a learning 
> experience.  That tire has about 90 of my miles on it.  Not the greatest 
> repair job - a little lumpy - but definitely worth it. 
>
> I am also puzzled by a couple comments I’ve seen regarding these tires 
> being for “roadies.”  I don’t consider myself a roadie - never raced - 
> always been a commuter, tourer and now recreational rider too.  I’ve ridden 
> my tubulars on and off road and will ride them under any conditions I would 
> ride a clincher.  Besides that, I believe many cyclocross racers use 
> tubulars and I shouldn’t think they are roadies.  Just saying. 
>
> I apologize as I know I have a tendency to get carried away with my 
> enthusiasm but reading the positive experiences of others who debunked the 
> notion that tubulars are something exotic not worth the trouble finally 
> pushed me to give them a try.  I mean, there are similar discussions 
> regarding tubeless? Besides, the more people who will give them a shot, the 
> better chance we will get or keep more choices.  I highly recommend them 
> for anyone who enjoys working on their bicycles.  If somebody else does all 
> your work, maybe not the right choice.

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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Patrick Moore

Bill L, that's a nice Roadeo, even nicer with the new wheels. Bill S,
thanks for these apercus, and I welcome your enthusiasm; *I* think
*exalte's* are *nice* people!

It won't be this year, since the very long-maturing 3-speed road bike
project is now under way and my money and time will be spent sorting that
one out, but I do very much want to resurrect my old Libertas (60 X 56 c-c,
exactly my size in level top tubes, and 5.9 lb f + f with steel campy
headset!), and at just-turned-65, I believe I must commit to riding
top-line tubulars before I die. It's good to hear that they ride so well,
and I am looking forward -- into the distance -- to eventually riding them.

Bill S: I was very pleased to hear that a few goatheads didn't result in
leaks even without sealant. I've had this happen with very stout tires, Big
Apples, but not with light tires; so does one say that the thorns didn't
penetrate the latex tubes, or that the thorns did penetrate but the latex
kept close around them and blocked leakage?

Another question: One PITA of riding tubes filled with sealant is getting a
puncture that the sealant doesn't seal. You are left with a casing full of
spludge, which of course splatters all over you and the nearby landscape
when you remove the tube. (I carry a rag precisely to wipe up such
messes.)*

Thus, when you have a tire where the tube is sewn up inside the casing, and
you get a puncture that the sealant doesn't seal -- doesn't the sealant
leak out into the casing? And when casing is sewn shut over tube -- what
then? I'd imagine you have a plus-que-bloody mess, right?

And more than this, when you go to remove the punctured tube, at least in
my clincher experience, the ongoing minor leakage as the sealant takes its
time to seal recurrent punctures means that you are faced, when time comes
to remove the tube, with a tube that is firmly glued to the inside of the
casing. Does this happen with tubulars, or are tube and casing so tightly
pressed that the sealant can't get out and roam around inside the tire, so
that leakage is minimal?

My remarks bear on sealants even more than on tubulars, but my principal
interest is whether sealants make tubulars viable. List traffic seems to
weigh "pro." I'd be interested in hearing more from others who ride top
line tubulars in goat head areas.

*(I *think *that my recent problems of sealant not sealing is because I've
been using Orange Seal Endurance -- skim milk version -- in my tubes, not
the full cream version -- "regular." OS Endurance works very well in my
fat, thinwall, low pressure Big Ones, but I've just switched back to
regular for tubes and, sample size of 1 ride, all well -- after 2
consecutive rides of OSE and flats and mess.  -- All in all, even the best
sealants are nasty, messy PITAs. I was struggling with the crust built up
around the underside of the bb and lower dt on the Matthews just now --
practically ineradicable. But they allow nice tires in thorn country, so I
quietly offer it up.)

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 5:48 PM Bill Schairer  wrote:

> Also being a Bill, I’ll volunteer my answer to Ted’s question.  I have two
> sets of the Vlaanderen tires, each set with about 1800 miles times 4 gives
> me about 7200 tire miles? I have had one puncture too large for sealant
> -glass cut.  The tire was at about the rated mileage limit and well worn
> but, unlike Bill L, I had no previous experience repairing tubulars so
> doing the repair was my opportunity for a learning experience.  REMA patch
> and glue worked and the tire is still in service.  All other punctures (not
> sure how many but not a lot) have been fixed with sealant.  I’ve opted to
> ride with 2 spares and save sealant injections for home.  I’ve changed
> exactly one tire on the road, the aforementioned flat. All other punctures
> were slow enough that I got home or they sealed from previously
> administered sealant.  So far, I’ve come to the conclusion that latex tubes
> are more puncture resistant than butyl and leak more slowly when
> punctured.  I’ve also pulled 3 goat heads out of tires with no sealant
> without any resulting loss of pressure.  I don’t think I can ever remember
> doing that with a clincher.
>
> I also did a complete tube replacement on a used FMB tire that I acquired
> with a leak.  That involved cutting a new $15 tube in half, pulling it
> through and gluing it back together. Probably got the instructions on that
> from Sheldon Brown.  It took a long time but, again, this was a learning
> experience.  That tire has about 90 of my miles on it.  Not the greatest
> repair job - a little lumpy - but definitely worth it.
>
> I am also puzzled by a couple comments I’ve seen regarding these tires
> being for “roadies.”  I don’t consider myself a roadie - never raced -
> always been a commuter, tourer and now recreational rider too.  I’ve ridden
> my tubulars on and off road and will ride them under any conditions I would
> ride a clincher.  Besides that, I believe many

[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?

2020-04-25 Thread aeroperf

Cobb and Paulding counties, GA, re-opened the Silver Comet Trail today.
I’ll avoid talking about the wisdom of re-opening Georgia, but re-opening
the Comet was definitely interesting.

I suddenly understand the comments about trails being crowded.
Leah’s comment about “roving cattle” who “don’t understand bells” suddenly
makes a LOT of sense.
There were a LOT of new bikers out. People with new shiny bikes and no
clue how to ride them - and that’s kind of OK because the more people that
come out with bikes, even badly, the better chance of more bike trails.
But… whew.

On the other hand, Atlanta is so bike-unfriendly on the roads… my chances
of getting hit by a car on the roads dropped from 50% to 49% during the
shelter-in-place. I have some interesting new scars, and I’m glad the
Comet is open again.
So what I learned is that, in Atlanta, ride on the paths/sidewalks, not on
the roads, and appreciate the trails.

While the shelter-in-place was in effect, I’ve been building up a new bike
with help from my LBS. This week they told me to do it myself because they
were getting swamped with building new orders. This is a good thing, too,
because If even a few percent stick with it, that, too, increases the user
base.

Re: [RBW] In Praise of the Roadini

2020-04-25 Thread Andrew Erman

I love the way your bike looks!  I have a grilvered colored Roadini with 
Albastache bars.  My bike a joy to ride with the more upright positioning 
compared to the drops I used to have.  May your girlfriend have much joy in 
riding this beauty.  Great color.

Andy

> On Apr 21, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Eric G@rs  wrote:
> 
> Your Roadini looks great, Robert. I recently finished building my 
> girlfriend's 47cm Roadini and she loves it. She isn't a fan of drop bars so 
> we opted for Wavie bars. I jacked up the saddle and road it a while as well. 
> Kind of makes me want one for myself... 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

2020-04-25 Thread Andrew Huston

Someone buy my Clem and I'll get this thread closed out!

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 7:34:28 PM UTC-4, Nate in Oakland wrote:
>
> I just measured my g-one speeds (on my 56 650b musa Atlantis) at 2.4 
> inches with my calipers.
>
> Nate
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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Bill Schairer

Also being a Bill, I’ll volunteer my answer to Ted’s question. I have two sets
of the Vlaanderen tires, each set with about 1800 miles times 4 gives me about
7200 tire miles? I have had one puncture too large for sealant -glass cut. The
tire was at about the rated mileage limit and well worn but, unlike Bill L, I
had no previous experience repairing tubulars so doing the repair was my
opportunity for a learning experience. REMA patch and glue worked and the tire
is still in service. All other punctures (not sure how many but not a lot)
have been fixed with sealant. I’ve opted to ride with 2 spares and save
sealant injections for home. I’ve changed exactly one tire on the road, the
aforementioned flat. All other punctures were slow enough that I got home or
they sealed from previously administered sealant. So far, I’ve come to the
conclusion that latex tubes are more puncture resistant than butyl and leak
more slowly when punctured. I’ve also pulled 3 goat heads out of tires with no
sealant without any resulting loss of pressure. I don’t think I can ever
remember doing that with a clincher.

I also did a complete tube replacement on a used FMB tire that I acquired with
a leak. That involved cutting a new $15 tube in half, pulling it through and
gluing it back together. Probably got the instructions on that from Sheldon
Brown. It took a long time but, again, this was a learning experience. That
tire has about 90 of my miles on it. Not the greatest repair job - a little
lumpy - but definitely worth it.

I am also puzzled by a couple comments I’ve seen regarding these tires being
for “roadies.” I don’t consider myself a roadie - never raced - always been a
commuter, tourer and now recreational rider too. I’ve ridden my tubulars on
and off road and will ride them under any conditions I would ride a clincher.
Besides that, I believe many cyclocross racers use tubulars and I shouldn’t
think they are roadies. Just saying.

I apologize as I know I have a tendency to get carried away with my enthusiasm
but reading the positive experiences of others who debunked the notion that
tubulars are something exotic not worth the trouble finally pushed me to give
them a try. I mean, there are similar discussions regarding tubeless? Besides,
the more people who will give them a shot, the better chance we will get or
keep more choices. I highly recommend them for anyone who enjoys working on
their bicycles. If somebody else does all your work, maybe not the right
choice.

Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

2020-04-25 Thread Nate in Oakland

I just measured my g-one speeds (on my 56 650b musa Atlantis) at 2.4 inches 
with my calipers.

Nate

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-04-25 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch

I like it too.  Especially if it means the bike gets to keep the Chevoit 
head badge (which is absolutely awesome).

 

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[RBW] 30 Days of Biking!

2020-04-25 Thread Roberta

Thanks Paul.

 I removed the Avocet Touring II that I bought NOS in November and put the 
original stock  saddle on my She-Devil. If I end up not liking that one, I’ll 
try the Origins 8. The Avocet is not quite right for me and I’ll be selling it. 

So, with all the excitement of the new fancy Chev, I did THREE rides today, 
starting and ending with my She-Devil, which looks like a distant cousin to the 
fancy Chev, but more compact!

First ride was 5 miles around the city in the bike lanes. Philadelphia now has 
bike lanes on the left on some one way Streets. On the way home,  I stopped by 
LBS to add Myrrcycle mirror to the right handlebar end to match the one on the 
left. “OK, we’ll have it done for you in 45 minutes “  

Hmmm... 4 minutes to walk home, and 4 to walk back, with 35 minutes between. As 
soon as I got home , I jumped on my Joe Appaloosa for another 5 miles ride. I 
love that bike, and am looking forward to improvements I’ll be having Analog do 
for me. 

I then picked up my She-Devil and took it directly on another ride-6 miles. 
It’s not a Riv, but it’s nice, and there’s something wonderful about riding a 
mixte.  So much so that I think I’ll be ordering the new fancy Cheviot 


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[RBW] FS: Seagull Trail Breaker bag for Wald 137 Front Basket

2020-04-25 Thread Huston

PM sent.

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-04-25 Thread Jan O.

"Deux Chevuit", how perfect.

Jan
San Francisco, CA

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[RBW] FS: Lots o' bags: Acorn, Swift, Ostrich

2020-04-25 Thread somervillebikes

All are new or almost new.


   - Acorn medium boxy rando bag, black. Used a few times, works without a 
   decaleur. Almost new. Sells for $205 on Acorn's website. $170


   - Swift Industries Polaris Porteur bag. Used once. This thing is huge. 
   Roll-top design provides a massive storage volume. Designed to fit well on 
   most commercial porteur racks (eg., VO). Sells new for $166 from Swift (on 
   sale) but their new version is smaller. $135


   - Ostrich DLX canvas pannier set, green. New, never used. Includes the 
   leather mounting straps. Cheapest price found online is $138 shipped each. 
   $190 for the pair.
   

All prices include shipping CONUS.

Don't think the prices are reasonable? Make me an offer.

Photo album here 
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[RBW] FS: 51cm Joey Appaloosa Silver & Tan

2020-04-25 Thread Denise Granger

Hi, Below is the original posting back in December. A lot happened to me 
before I ever really was able to pursue selling this bike - namely I had to 
have my right foot reconstructed and was unable to walk for 3 months. Not 
to worry i'm way better now but now I'd like to sell this bike to someone 
who will give "Pal Joey" a great home. I live in San Diego and will offer 
the bike at a discount of $1350 + package and ship in the U.S.. for $150 or 
we can arrange a pickup for free. Please let me know if you are interested 
in this great bicycle.


I bought this Joey Frameset (2017) after selling my partner's (2011) Sam 
Hillborne Frameset (too big for her/too small for me). Used most of the 
parts from the original Sam build except for the Albatross bars, cork & bar 
end shifters, brake levers, seat, fenders (honjo replaced the ones that 
came with the Sam), pedals and the crankset of which I found used on this 
site a while back (170mm)(not super great, but works for me). The Tubus 
Rack also came with the Sam as well. I still have drop bars, a few various 
stems, an additional set of the cantilever brakes (new) and the Brooks 
(B17) saddle that came with the Sam. This bike has been great and I used it 
for riding to the YMCA and the Farmers Market and Store or just to tool 
around. It's an awesome bike but I need to sell  to make room for the bike 
I just built up for the same purpose and to do some bike packing on. I am 
asking $ 1,500.00 for the bike only + cost of packing and shipping if 
necessary - but would prefer a local pick up. There are a few marks on the 
bike and fenders as it got used quite a bit but it's in great condition. 

Link for photos - https://photos.app.goo.gl/dangQ3J8HMB5Caqh8 

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Re: [RBW] Fancy Cheviot!

2020-04-25 Thread Eric Daume

Awesome! I second Ray's name proposal.

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 11:49 AM Ray Varella 
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> If they change the name, my vote would be for Deux Chevuit.
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Re: [RBW] Fancy Cheviot!

2020-04-25 Thread Joe Bernard

Here's the words from the newsletter, which I should have included in the 
original post:

Here's one of those sample frames. It's an updated version of the Cheviot, 
although Grant is considering having a new name and new decals for it.

The forks came without v-brake studs (I'm not calling them canti-posts 
anymore), so forgive the mis-matched brakes. This 55cm frame rides like a 
dream... it feels bigger in a good way compared to the old 55cm, which I 
attribute to the 700c wheels, slightly slacker headtube angle and longer top 
tube. I think it's mostly the wheels. The v-brakes are the big change, but 
there's other small things that most people might not notice. We'll have more 
details later.

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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Bill Lindsay

Ted asked if Veloflex Vlaanderen tires have latex tubes.  Yes, they do.  

Ted asked if I am cutting em open and patching when I get flats.  

I've only ridden them 36 miles, one ride, and have had zero flats.  At the 
rate of zero flats per 36 miles, I'll never get a flat!  haha.

My roadside repair kit is a 2oz sealant, a pump, and tweezers to pull out 
the thorn, glass, wire.  On the same rides where you carry a spare tire as 
insurance against major sidewall cuts, I will carry a spare tire as 
insurance against major sidewall cuts. 

I used to cut open tubulars and patch tubes, twenty years ago.  I'm told 
sealant fixes the vast majority of small punctures.  We'll see whether I 
need to get back into the tube patching business.  Too be determined.  I 
still have a clincher wheelset for my Roadeo, so you don't have to worry 
about the bike ever being out of commission.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA 

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 10:54:24 PM UTC-7, ted wrote:
>
> So Bill, are those latex tubbed, and are you cutting em open and patching 
> when you get flats?

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[RBW] Re: Tall Arm V-Brakes

2020-04-25 Thread Adam Leibow

I had the 32F rack mounted on my sam hillborne successfully with deore V 
brakes, but I am *guessing* this only worked because of the smaller tire 
clearance which equated to shorter distance between fork crown and brake 
stud. 

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 5:14:44 PM UTC-7, j.schwartz wrote:
>
> I have some old Tektro V's from the box that I put on my Clem since they 
> were laying around.
> I can not install my Nitto Front rack because the arms aren't tall enough 
> to clear the fork crown mount. ..see pic.
> So I took the rack off, but I think it's a less expensive project for me 
> to replace the front brake then find another rack solution.
> I know Riv is working on a V brake but that could be awhile...
> Who makes the tallest arm V brakes (Not Paul please) I want to keep this 
> pretty budgety.
> Should I look at newer Tektro's, Shimano's, anything else?
> See pics
> Thanks so much  
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[RBW] 30 Days of Biking!

2020-04-25 Thread masmojo

Well, since I lost my job & now with Covid I've been doing some painting, going 
to Michaels seemed like a good excuse to ride! 19 miles round trip.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/a3v9jVXcxzkWjZAX7

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[RBW] Re: Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Jonathan D.

Loved your builds. Ended up flipping through your bikes.  

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

2020-04-25 Thread Matthew Pendergraft

By the complete bike Karl!  :)
I can't wait to build up the 58 cm Atlantis from you. It looks like 2.2" is
the widest I can go. Did you ever find a max tire for it?

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 6:15 AM Karl  wrote:

> Man, what a deal Matthew! This would complete my 650b stable!
>
> Karl
> Nash, TN
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB English Rain coat

2020-04-25 Thread john Bokman

I got the Double Ventile Greenspot (based on recommendations from the list) 
last year and have come to realize a few things:

1. The quality of stitching, zippers, fabric is superb
2. The jacket is indeed fairly heavy and hot. I would not recommend it for 
cycling in warmer temperatures. When I use it, I have a thin layer underneath 
and it’s fine.
3. Although I measured to their specs, I ordered a size medium, standard length 
sleeves. When riding, the sleeves are 2” too short for my liking. Should have 
ordered longer sleeves. I would be very careful in taking to them before 
ordering in the future to determine what type of riding you aim to do. For 
example, I am stretched out when I ride. I ride drops. If I were sitting 
upright, the sleeve length would work better.
4. I have their single venture gilet, and it is pretty good for water 
protection, and lighter by a fair bit. If I were getting a Greenspot in the 
future for commuting or short rides, I might get a single ventile instead.

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 6:50 AM, Ginz  wrote:
> 
> For those with the double ventile greenspot, do reserve that for colder 
> weather? I generally like to layer under my jacket and use a thinner jacket. 
> I almost worry the single greenspot will be too heavy for me, but I guess I 
> have thinner jacket for warmer weather. 
> 
> I have a ventile dress raincoat so I am somewhat familiar with it.  
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Eric
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[RBW] Re: WTB English Rain coat

2020-04-25 Thread 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch

Eric,
I just received my DV Greenspot a couple of months ago and it is heavier 
than my previous rain jacket. I'd probably not use it in warm weather but 
it is great for anything cool/cold. It is bulkier too so it's not the kind 
of thing I'd just throw in my bag if it is not supposed to rain.  FWIW, I 
ordered a medium and am 6'/150#. It fits great with lots of room for 
layering, but I did have the sleeves made longer than the stock size and 
they are perfect.  The construction and quality overall is impeccable.
Gary

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 9:50:51 AM UTC-4, Ginz wrote:
>
> For those with the double ventile greenspot, do reserve that for colder 
> weather? I generally like to layer under my jacket and use a thinner 
> jacket. I almost worry the single greenspot will be too heavy for me, but I 
> guess I have thinner jacket for warmer weather. 
>
> I have a ventile dress raincoat so I am somewhat familiar with it.  
>
>
> Thanks
> Eric
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Fancy Cheviot!

2020-04-25 Thread Ray Varella

If they change the name, my vote would be for Deux Chevuit. 



Ray

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[RBW] Re: Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Jeff B

I was actually contemplating the same thing for my Roadini since Rene Herse 
is selling FMBs now.

 A few years ago my Specialized representative was trying so hard to unload 
a set of CLX60 tubular wheels with tires mounted already and I should have 
bought them for price he was going for, it was amazingly low but I couldn't 
be bothered because my tubeless set up was going great, and still is.

I still might toy with the idea, especially using some older MAVICs like 
you Bill.

Specialized still has stock of the S-Works Turbo Cotton Hell of the North 
(Paris-Roubaix) tire that is listed as a 28mm (they might have had a 30mm 
at some point).

Either way your bike looks great!


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Re: [RBW] Fancy Cheviot!

2020-04-25 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!

Does anyone have a guess as to how long a project like the Fancy Cheviot takes
to bring to production? I feel like we’ve been waiting forever already. I
pushed pretty hard to know the ETA because I didn’t want to wait a year and was
considering a custom that would arrive sooner. Last I heard these bikes would
have been arriving late July, but that doesn’t seem like a workable timeline
now. I’m not going to push anymore; Rivendell doesn’t seem to be able to hurry
production along and I’m sure it stresses them out to have to answer pressing
questions about TIME from me. It’s encouraging that we are looking at the
prototype, but there are changes Rivendell plans to make to this bike - how far
back does that push the ETA? Do they have to order new prototypes again after
making changes?

Maybe we’ll all be pleasantly surprised and the wait won’t be so long. I’m
thinking Christmas but really hoping for late summer. I haven’t wanted
something so acutely in a long time. It’s an exquisite pain I’m having over
this Fancy Cheviot. I’m setting up my Clem with some really nice new parts that
will make it easier to ride while I wait. One of the nice things I added was
dyno, which I would never have gotten had this Cheviot not been delayed.

[RBW] Re: Fender Ideas

2020-04-25 Thread Zed Martinez

>
> too big and rubbed on the metal stay strap the runs under the fender

It requires being a bit a bit handy and ideally a rivet setter, but on 
those SKS fenders you can drill out the rivets on those brackets and 
remount them on the outside of the fender instead. Good for tight 
clearance, but also on some fender and tire combinations that bracket will 
catch enough water to cause its own splashing problems, and remounting it 
outside makes that less an issue. I picked up the idea from this old post, 
which sadly the pictures have gone AWOL on, but the web archive still has 
the relevant useful one at 
least: 
https://web.archive.org/web/20130925090125/http://roadcyclinguk.com/how-to/maintenance/improve-your-sks-mudguard.html

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 10:18:46 AM UTC-4, j glenn wrote:
>
> I've got SKS P35 Longboard  fenders over 28mm  Gravelkings on one bike.  
> Continental 28mm GP4000's where  too big and rubbed on the metal stay strap 
> the runs under the fender. I adjusted the fender line to get a bit more 
> clearance there and put the Gravelkings back on. I get a bit of rub when I 
> get out of the saddle to mash up a hill. I am not a small person though.  I 
> have  had thoughts of putting larger tires on the bike and larger  split 
> fenders. 
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 9:48:57 PM UTC-4, Dave Grossman wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking to add fenders to my Milwaukee Orange One single speed.  I 
>> have caliper brakes front and rear and can allegedly clear a 28 with 
>> fenders.  Anyone have a rec for an inexpensive but full coverage fender for 
>> these specs?
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Tall Arm V-Brakes

2020-04-25 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles

I've got some VERY long 135mm arm cheapy Sunlite v-brakes on order at my 
LBS.  Assuming they were used for their fat tire cruisers.

Wanted the option for uber clearance with 2.8's on my Susie build

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let’s have a St. Louis Meet Up!

2020-04-25 Thread Nathan Mattia

Oh man, I love that place.  So great to hear you do to.  
They dug up a Fairdale Weekender, a Dr. Dew and a Breeze for me to tool 
around the District for a day, just because I said I was visiting from St. 
Louis where we don’t have a Fairdale dealer. Super patient with me and 
answered all my questions.

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 9:10:42 AM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote:
>
> Nathan, I'm in Highland Park of the East End, Kindred is my go-to. Aaron, 
> Catherine and John have been my first reference for folks shopping bikes. 
> They do a fantastic job of helping folks find their format based on use, 
> intents and preferences. They recently build my Coast 650b rando. 
>
> They're down the street from my work, up the block from my favorite 
> shopping and close to downtown.
>
> Andy Cheahtam
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 9:41:25 AM UTC-4, Nathan Mattia wrote:
>>
>> SWEET LORD, that looks amazing.  That’s what I’m talking about when I say 
>>> I need scenery. I NEED to ride the continental divide.  Whose Atlantis was 
>>> that shiny gem?  I don’t think i could have ever brought myself to take it 
>>> outside!
>>>
>>
>> Andy!, whereabouts in the  Pittsburgh area are you now? My dad grew up in 
>> Aliquippa so we make it back there every once in a while.
>> Have you made it down to *Kindred Cycles in the Strip? * 
>>
>> Wonderful people there.  Let me test ride several bikes a few years ago, 
>> knowing I was on vacation and wouldn’t buy one.  Helped move me several 
>> steps closer to knowing what I wanted and didn’t want in a a bike as I was 
>> getting back into riding.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Fender Ideas

2020-04-25 Thread 'j glenn' via RBW Owners Bunch

I've got SKS P35 Longboard  fenders over 28mm  Gravelkings on one bike.  
Continental 28mm GP4000's where  too big and rubbed on the metal stay strap 
the runs under the fender. I adjusted the fender line to get a bit more 
clearance there and put the Gravelkings back on. I get a bit of rub when I 
get out of the saddle to mash up a hill. I am not a small person though.  I 
have  had thoughts of putting larger tires on the bike and larger  split 
fenders. 

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 9:48:57 PM UTC-4, Dave Grossman wrote:
>
> I'm looking to add fenders to my Milwaukee Orange One single speed.  I 
> have caliper brakes front and rear and can allegedly clear a 28 with 
> fenders.  Anyone have a rec for an inexpensive but full coverage fender for 
> these specs?
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let’s have a St. Louis Meet Up!

2020-04-25 Thread ascpgh

Nathan, I'm in Highland Park of the East End, Kindred is my go-to. Aaron, 
Catherine and John have been my first reference for folks shopping bikes. 
They do a fantastic job of helping folks find their format based on use, 
intents and preferences. They recently build my Coast 650b rando. 

They're down the street from my work, up the block from my favorite 
shopping and close to downtown.

Andy Cheahtam
Pittsburgh

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 9:41:25 AM UTC-4, Nathan Mattia wrote:
>
> SWEET LORD, that looks amazing.  That’s what I’m talking about when I say 
>> I need scenery. I NEED to ride the continental divide.  Whose Atlantis was 
>> that shiny gem?  I don’t think i could have ever brought myself to take it 
>> outside!
>>
>
> Andy!, whereabouts in the  Pittsburgh area are you now? My dad grew up in 
> Aliquippa so we make it back there every once in a while.
> Have you made it down to *Kindred Cycles in the Strip? * 
>
> Wonderful people there.  Let me test ride several bikes a few years ago, 
> knowing I was on vacation and wouldn’t buy one.  Helped move me several 
> steps closer to knowing what I wanted and didn’t want in a a bike as I was 
> getting back into riding.
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB English Rain coat

2020-04-25 Thread Ginz

For those with the double ventile greenspot, do reserve that for colder 
weather? I generally like to layer under my jacket and use a thinner jacket. I 
almost worry the single greenspot will be too heavy for me, but I guess I have 
thinner jacket for warmer weather. 

I have a ventile dress raincoat so I am somewhat familiar with it.  


Thanks
Eric

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let’s have a St. Louis Meet Up!

2020-04-25 Thread Nathan Mattia


>
> SWEET LORD, that looks amazing.  That’s what I’m talking about when I say 
> I need scenery. I NEED to ride the continental divide.  Whose Atlantis was 
> that shiny gem?  I don’t think i could have ever brought myself to take it 
> outside!
>

Andy!, whereabouts in the  Pittsburgh area are you now? My dad grew up in 
Aliquippa so we make it back there every once in a while.
Have you made it down to *Kindred Cycles in the Strip? * 

Wonderful people there.  Let me test ride several bikes a few years ago, 
knowing I was on vacation and wouldn’t buy one.  Helped move me several 
steps closer to knowing what I wanted and didn’t want in a a bike as I was 
getting back into riding.

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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

2020-04-25 Thread Karl

Man, what a deal Matthew! This would complete my 650b stable!

Karl
Nash, TN

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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Max S

When I was a poor student and building a bike, I scored a great deal on a 
wheelset via wreck.bikes Usenet group. $60. Turned out it was tubular. 藍 I read 
Jobst’s instructions on patching them (he was still active on the tech forum!), 
then put out a plea for used / punctured sewups. I got 4 of them for $10. I 
patched 3 successfully, and one forever had a leak. So I rode for two years on 
the bombed out streets of Berkeley on those wheels and tires, one tubular 
strapped under my seat, no flats! 

Nowadays it’s either fat 650b tires from Jan or Vittoria sewups with latex 
tubes. 

I do have about 4 nice cross tires that need to be patched, so I’m thinking 
I’ll send them to TireAlert... Anyone use their services? Good experience? 

- Max “patching sewups during a pandemic is not a euphemism” in A2 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let’s have a St. Louis Meet Up!

2020-04-25 Thread Steve Palincsar



On 4/25/20 7:57 AM, ascpgh wrote:


In April 2012 a group of us met in Cumberland, MD and rode the GAP 
north, overnighting in Confluence, PA stopping in Ohiopyle to tour 
Frank Lloyd Wright's Fallingwater.


A N'or Easter shortened the ride for those facing travel back to and 
up the eastern seaboard as our shuttle company was based in Ohiopyle 
and amenable to the adjustment. My shuttle company (wife) was out of 
cell service, on the original plan, so I rode on in snow to West 
Newton to meet her as the rest rode back to their cars in Cumberland. 
Mark Irwin from Michigan remained in Ohiopyle at the state park 
campground.


We had lots of conversations and comradery. The in-person experience 
and seeing everyones' bikes was worthwhile. I personally was smitten 
from then on by generator hubs and LED lights. My take-aways probably 
not appropriate in the post C-19 world.



https://photos.app.goo.gl/P47mQDqrze1dN5pc8



There's also a Flickr group of photos from that trip 
https://www.flickr.com/groups/1923867@N25/


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Re: [RBW] Re: Let’s have a St. Louis Meet Up!

2020-04-25 Thread ascpgh

Sounds like fun. I lived in Florissant until I was 14, I bootlegged several 
rides to the Arch in the few years before moving to Arkansas. 

In April 2012 a group of us met in Cumberland, MD and rode the GAP north, 
overnighting in Confluence, PA stopping in Ohiopyle to tour Frank Lloyd 
Wright's Fallingwater. 

A N'or Easter shortened the ride for those facing travel back to and up the 
eastern seaboard as our shuttle company was based in Ohiopyle and amenable 
to the adjustment. My shuttle company (wife) was out of cell service, on 
the original plan, so I rode on in snow to West Newton to meet her as the 
rest rode back to their cars in Cumberland. Mark Irwin from Michigan 
remained in Ohiopyle at the state park campground. 

We had lots of conversations and comradery. The in-person experience and 
seeing everyones' bikes was worthwhile. I personally was smitten from then 
on by generator hubs and LED lights. My take-aways probably not appropriate 
in the post C-19 world. 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/P47mQDqrze1dN5pc8

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 4:18:26 PM UTC-4, Nathan Mattia wrote:
>
> Well, I’ve never done a group ride in my life, so I’m not suggesting that 
> for the meet up.  
>
> As far as I’m concerned, we can all agree to ride in from different points 
> on the compass so that we don’t have to calculate our velocity and distance 
> and radii of possible transmission under speed.
>
> The point is, the conversation and comradery.  Could they be had on an 
> online forum?  Sure, but it’s not the same.  Could we accomplish those 
> safely?  I think so.
>
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 2:57:12 PM UTC-5, Benjamin Kelley wrote:
>>
>> Glad that someone is beginning to look at it at least. I hadn't heard any 
>> of that. It makes sense that velocity is going to affect distance.  Tho, 
>> this could cause concern for the increase number of people that are offset 
>> from public transit using the bike lanes. 
>> I've been maintaining 100% masking wearing while outside the home, 
>> including when biking anyways.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:44 PM somervillebikes  wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think the 2 meter rule necessarily applies to cycling or 
>>> running. There is a computer-simulated model out of Europe that suggests 
>>> that for higher speed travel modes, like running and cycling, you might 
>>> need far more than 6 feet.  Granted, it's a model, not peer-reviewed, and 
>>> there's also scant data that points to viral transmission occurring 
>>> outdoors, but then again very little is really known for sure about the 
>>> transmission of this virus. My regular riding buddy and I decided to end 
>>> our gentleman rides two weeks ago. I'd rather err on the safe side. 
>>>
>>> Anton
>>> velolumino.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 3:27:51 PM UTC-4, Benjamin Kelley wrote:

 I'm currently in NYC but will be moving back to KC next month so I'll 
 be on the other side of the state from you soon.
 I'd be down for a train trip over and ride later in the year perhaps, 
 My work goes on so I'm as busy as ever during all this.

 I also tend to agree with you, a small group ride/chat can be done 
 safely.  You don't have to ride in a peloton or paceline to ride together. 
 Can easily chat at 6ft distances. Not touch each others bikes. Wear masks. 
 Etc...

 --ben

 On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:13 PM Nathan Mattia  
 wrote:

> Hello Bill,
>
> When Samwise Hillborne was ready to roll last month, the FIRST ride I 
> made was from here in Richmond Heights, down the River Des Peres 
> Greenway, 
> to Grant’s Trail.  By far, my least favorite part was Grant’s Trail.  I 
> have discovered that if the route is going to be long and flat, it at 
> least 
> needs to be scenic.  Riding Grant’s Trail reminded me of driving on 
> highways in Mississippi.  Lots of trees with no scenery for miles and 
> miles.  Except with Grant’s Trail, there aren’t even any Cracker 
> Barrel’s.  
> I DID note that even on the semi-blustery day I was riding it, there were 
> a 
> fair amount of people utilizing it, so that’s good.  
>
> Touche`Are you a man of the Lou?  IT IS a great time for a meet up. 
>  1) I can’t imagine there are more than 10 of us in the area here on the 
> forum.  But if there are, I’ll be thrilled.  2) I don’t need to touch 
> your 
> bike, much less you.  I can tell everything I need to tell from a 
> medically 
> acceptable distance.
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 1:48:53 PM UTC-5, Bill Schairer wrote:
>>
>> Nathan, 
>>
>> I no longer live in St. Louis so couldn’t be a part of any meet up, 
>> unless I happened to be visiting my son at the time.  Many years ago I 
>> bike 
>> commuted from near Grants Farm to the CWE thru Forest Park.  Are you 
>> aware 
>> of Grants Trail?  My

[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?

2020-04-25 Thread Garth



Everything... by Self-Nature of Existence Existing,  is Wonder-Full . 

Enjoy your Ride today , it's never the same twice ! 

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[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?

2020-04-25 Thread Garth



Everything... by Self-Nature of Existence Existing,  is Alright . and 
there isn't anything "else", more or less. 

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[RBW] Dyno light installation, which side of the do you prefer?

2020-04-25 Thread Philip Williamson

With modern lights and a forward position, it doesn’t matter to me.
I have one bike with the mount on the right side of an m12(?) under a basket, 
and two bikes with the light on the left side of custom racks under a basket. 
With the forward position, the tire shadow is close enough to the bike that I 
don’t notice it.

I’m right handed, so I slightly prefer the action of turning the light on when 
it’s on the right. That one is a cyo(?) with a knob, though, which I much 
prefer to to three-stage pushbutton of the IQ-X. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

2020-04-25 Thread Joe Bernard

I've always been fascinated by roadies hardcore enough to ride tubulars and 
doing the patching/sewing job on flats. I don't have a clue how they do it, but 
it's cool! 

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