[RBW] Re: Pedals

[Matthew P]

Glad to see this thread as this has been on my mind.

+1 for Lynn's desire to keep the foot in contact with the pedal.

I've been a flat pedal, casual rider through and through.
Then about 2 years ago I decided to set up a bike as a fixie (per 
recommendation from Sheldon Brown's site).
That prompted the velcro straps, which I also used on a tour or two (not 
fixed).
I've also used clips: toe clips/basket with a strap.
At some point I realized I was doing what the clipless pedal system does 
but just worse.
In my opinion, if any straps or clips are going to keep your foot 
completely stuck to the pedal, then you are probably limiting blood flow to 
the foot, and making it very difficult to get the foot out.
So I went clipless on the fixie, and now I'd like to do the same on my 
main/touring bike.

I've been using the MKS Sneakers (RMX) pedals. They're nice but I've had a 
foot slip off, and bike swerve, while riding loaded in the rain.
I don't want that to happen when the semi brushes by.

I've also been thinking/learning how I need good grip on my shoes because 
when the trail is too steep to climb on the bike, I have a hell of a time 
pushing the loaded bike up the trail in my sneakers...
said sneakers which have all of their previously insufficient tread 
worn off from the pedals.

I found some shoes that look great for hike-a-biking, but why pay $100 just 
to have my pedals wear the shoes slick?

So I finally got a pair of Shimano SH-MT22 shoes in my size.
The current plan is to go clipless with those on trips.
(I'll still commute in sneakers).
But to also put microspikes on my shoes that are compatible with clipless 
pedals & shoes, when on trails.
Like one of the options here: 
https://www.gearx.com/accessories/winter-traction-devices
It seems to be a matter of having one of those with no spikes where the 
pedal axle is and a clipless pedal with a bit of a platform to clear 
whatever bit of chain is where the axle lies.
Perhaps a bad idea, but a bad idea I'm going to pursue.
And the SH-MT22's were only like $30 off ebay and the microspikes $30-70 
and perhaps I have a system that works and lasts.

Does anyone have any Shimano/SPD pedals they recommend for this or in 
general (I'll refer back to what has already been recommended in this 
thread) or want to sell?

Flats all my life and now overcomplicating things, again,
-Matthew in San Diego

P.S. Kent, I'll read your blogpost soon.  Looks substantial.



On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 6:08:42 PM UTC-7, Lynn Haas wrote:
>
> SPDs here, usually M520s, although right now I have some dual-sided ones 
> because I had romantic visions of hopping on my bike to run short errands 
> in sneakers. Turns out, I rarely run short errands via bike and switching 
> shoes is not a problem. The flat side of the pedal is further down than the 
> SPD side and makes me hyperextend my leg. I also rarely wear sneakers but 
> that's another story.
>
> I have a gimpy hip and the clipless pedals keep my leg from flopping 
> around. We have lots of bikes with flat pedals at work, and I've learned 
> the hard way to stay off of them if I want to be able to walk the next day. 
> I'm glad (but also sad) to hear that other people ride clipless for the 
> same reason.
>
> Lynn
>

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Rivendell model names?

[dougP]

Hunqapillar is genius, with the wooly mammoth head badge.  I also like the 
back story about Grant reading it on someone's mailbox.  

Atlantis is a close second (I'm biased, I know), evoking adventure & 
travel.  It works pretty well for those things.

dougP

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 7:17:21 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> Or, “Let’s Fight About Something On Topic!” 
>
> Let’s hear your most and least favorite Rivendell model names. No name 
> calling, even about the names. 
>
> What is your favorite Rivendell model name? Mine is Legolas. It’s real 
> hard to separate out the bike itself from the name for me. For example, I 
> don’t like the Sam Hillborn name, but that might be because it sounded like 
> a downmarket A. Homer Hilsen. On the other hand, I LOVE the name Platypus, 
> and want one of those bikes no matter what it looks like! 
>
> Hunqapillar - how genius is that?! 
> Wolbis Slugstone, though? My least favorite, in a walk. 
>
> I only ask because I found this anonymous poll about Rivendell model 
> names: https://forms.gle/FEf5TeFkr4fZQdxEA 
>
> Philip 
> Santa Rosa, CA 
>
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[RBW] Favorite Rivendell model names?

[Bill Lindsay]

Susie Longbolts is my favorite. Samuel Hillborne is my second favorite. I don’t 
like the name Hunqapillar or platypus. I like the name Bombadil and dislike the 
Name Legolas but I love the arrow motif of my Legolas.  I call my Legolas ‘Sal’ 
which is short for Legolas backwards. 

Roadeo is a dumb name IMO but a favorite bike. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca. 

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[RBW] Favorite Rivendell model names?

[Joe Bernard]

Wow, I really missed an opportunity there. My favorite is Rivendell! Which is 
what my custom is called and in private conversation I say "the Rivendell" 
because "my custom" sounds pompous while not actually explaining what the 
blazes I'm talking about. 

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[RBW] Favorite Rivendell model names?

[Joe Bernard]

Favorite: Quickbeam. Which I didn't know was a Tolkien thing and when I saw the 
prototype at RBW I told Mark I loved the "tree" headbadge and he said "It's an 
Ent." Ok I love the Ent!

Not so much: I don't know, I'm not way into the "fictional people" names but I 
always end up identifying them with the great frame their attached to and then 
I like them anyway. Which will happen with Platypus, which is why I've stopped 
whining about it on this forum. The bike will be amazing and I'll love the 
headbadge and it'll be fine. 

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Re: [RBW] Favorite Rivendell model names?

[Eric Floden]

So many good names to choose from. My first thought though is for the one
that was not: Honus Wagner.

That would have been cool...

EricF
Vancouver

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[RBW] Favorite Rivendell model names?

[A. Douglas M.]

I love Wolbis Slugstone. It reminds me of being a kid and watching the original 
Willy Wonka. Thinking about a candy recipe secret agent named Slugworth. 

I also really like Frank Jones. Classic American blue collar name. 

I’m a big fan of Platypus. It fits great with the current, light-hearted nature 
of Rivendell. Plus, they are very cool animals. They feed their offspring milk 
not through nipples but by sweating it out their belly. Impressive. “I have 
nipples, Greg. Can you milk me?” A platypus wouldn’t find that line amusing at 
all.

Sadly, I think Roadeo and Roadini are missed opportunities. 

Best,

Aaron

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[RBW] Favorite Rivendell model names?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Rosco Bubbe for the win!!
-Kai 

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[RBW] Favorite Rivendell model names?

[Philip Williamson]

Or, “Let’s Fight About Something On Topic!”

Let’s hear your most and least favorite Rivendell model names. No name calling, 
even about the names.

What is your favorite Rivendell model name? Mine is Legolas. It’s real hard to 
separate out the bike itself from the name for me. For example, I don’t like 
the Sam Hillborn name, but that might be because it sounded like a downmarket 
A. Homer Hilsen. On the other hand, I LOVE the name Platypus, and want one of 
those bikes no matter what it looks like! 

Hunqapillar - how genius is that?!
Wolbis Slugstone, though? My least favorite, in a walk. 

I only ask because I found this anonymous poll about Rivendell model names: 
https://forms.gle/FEf5TeFkr4fZQdxEA

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 

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[RBW] anyone ever try this conversion? 1 1/8" to 1" to accept a quill

[Michael Baquerizo]

https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/105904306219/ho-ho-ho

Has anyone gotten this to a point where they feel safe riding it?

Curious to hear of any alternative methods, or issues w this one.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I’ve been to that part of France, but always while riding Paris-Brest-Paris, 
which doesn’t allow for leisurely sightseeing. I’m inspired now to go back and 
enjoy it at a slower pace. With sleep and showers!

–Eric N


> On Jun 3, 2020, at 4:54 PM, ANDREW ERMAN  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wonderful!   Thank you for sharing.  This brightens my day.  Andy
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 4:41 PM aeroperf  wrote:
>> 
>> There are some really great photos here.
>> I envy the camping and nature shots.  There are also great shots from 
>> morning, or evening, rides.
>> 
>> I’m posting a couple more from the Nantes-to-Brest canal ride.  The canal 
>> was built to save French shipping when the British were blockading the 
>> Brittany coast.  It was finished in 1856 and quickly made obsolete by the 
>> railroads.  Since there was little flood control, the towns are built on the 
>> hills above it.  So, a day’s ride capped by a steep climb, then dinner at a 
>> cafe, and a bottle of wine.  It is now part of Euro Velo Route 1.
>> 
>> My wife and I reconnect on these rides, while seeing places where we’ve 
>> never been.  Four-ish hours of biking a day let us discuss more than “What 
>> color do you want to paint the dining room?”  The only downside is that we 
>> have to finish the day's ride - our luggage is already at the next B  
>> 
>> I’m deliberately avoiding putting a Riv into these shots.  There is a “daily 
>> post your riv” thread for that.  My Sam has made it through a couple of 
>> these trips.  Depending on the length of the ride, I used to be able to ship 
>> a bike as cheaply as renting one.
>> 
>> Let's see if I've figured out how to attach a file...
>> 
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[RBW] Re: two rivendells for sale

[Michael Baquerizo]

If that wheelset is up for grabs i'd be interested in hearing what you'd 
want for it.

Thanks

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 7:38:21 PM UTC-4, Robert Blunt wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
> With the pandemic induced economic downturn, I will have to let my bikes 
> go. I have a 55 cheviot that is literally brand new with less than ten 
> miles on it and includes the following build details:
> Sugino xd2 cranks (26,36,48 I think), ahearne map bars, brooks leather 
> grips, nitto technomic stem, shimano brake levers, simworks potluck rack, 
> nitto seatpost, brooks sprung saddle, simworks hammered fenders, deore rear 
> derailleur, vintage campagnolo mtb front derailleur, paul thumbies, shimano 
> ultegra bar end shifters, grip king peddles, and tektro r559 brakes. The 
> wheelset is a generic 650b set I got off ebay and the tires are compass 
> babyshoe pass and are 650B x 42mm. I am asking $2000 plus shipping.
>
> The craigslist listing for the cheviot is done but shoppok still has it 
> posted so you can see one image here: 
> https://www.shoppok.com/southjersey/a,28,230029,Rivendell-cheviot2200--Pennington-.htm
> . 
>
> I would be happy to send additional photos to anyone who might be 
> interested. I am not very good with technology so I don't know how to 
> reduce photos to attach for the purposes of the group
>
> I also have a 51cm Sam Hillborne, the black and creme one with canti 
> brakes. There is a small scuff on the top tube which was there when I 
> bought it from a list member otherwise the frame was new. The bike also has 
> fewer than ten miles on it. Build details
> Sugino XD2 cranks (26, 36, 48), Nitto noodle bars (46cm), Nitto technomic 
> stem, shimano ultegra bar end shifters (9 peed), tektro brake levers and XC 
> interrupter levers as well. The wheel set is very nice: The front wheel has 
> a son28 front dynohub laced to a Pacenti Brevet 650B rim, and the rear 
> wheel consists of a White Industries MI5 laced to another Pacenti Brevet 
> rim (wheels are brand new). The dynohub powers a Schmidt Edelux light 
> mounted to the front rack. Tires are black Panaracer Gravel Kings. Nitto 
> front rack, and Nitto campee rack on the back. Old used small Sackville 
> trunk sack is on the front. Altus rear derailleur. IRD front derailleur. 
> The front brake is a Paul canti and the rear is a diacompe canti, tektro 
> brake levers. The seat post is a vintage Sakae SR MTE-100 which can adjust 
> horizontally pretty widely (basically the same design as IRD Wayback seat 
> post) . The saddle is a nicely broken in Brooks B-17. Burgundy cotton bar 
> tape, black Velo Orange fenders. Two leg touring kickstand. Grip King 
> pedals. I think that is everything. The bike has less than ten miles on it 
> also. I am asking 2800, plus shipping. 
>
> Again, I am happy to send photos to anyone who asks. Although not RIvy and 
> off topic, I am also selling a 2019 Trek Carbon Checkpoint with 105 
> component group, and an older Bike Friday Tandem. Thanks for your 
> consideration and please ask questions.
> Best,
> Robert Blunt
> Pennington, NJ
>

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[RBW] Re: FS 9/10 speed cassettes

[Brendan Willard in SF]

well drat!  Here's the 
link: 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1aS_it61u3t87l7eLljaY349dTU3unEmc?usp=sharing


On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 4:57:44 PM UTC-7, Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
>
> More from the bin.  All have plenty of life, just a bit dirty.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UOI3h9kMaUSG3tx97xGsZeNym8ZCzcZa?usp=sharing
>
> 9 speed cs m770 11-34 $40 + shipping
> 10 speed CS-HG62-10 11-34 $25 + shipping
> 10 speed CS-HG81-10 11-36 $35 + shipping
> 10 Speed CS-HG50-10 11-36 $25 + shipping
>
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] FS 9/10 speed cassettes

[Brendan Willard in SF]

More from the bin.  All have plenty of life, just a bit dirty.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UOI3h9kMaUSG3tx97xGsZeNym8ZCzcZa?usp=sharing

9 speed cs m770 11-34 $40 + shipping
10 speed CS-HG62-10 11-34 $25 + shipping
10 speed CS-HG81-10 11-36 $35 + shipping
10 Speed CS-HG50-10 11-36 $25 + shipping

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Wonderful!   Thank you for sharing.  This brightens my day.  Andy

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 4:41 PM aeroperf  wrote:

>
> There are some really great photos here.
> I envy the camping and nature shots.  There are also great shots from
> morning, or evening, rides.
>
> I’m posting a couple more from the Nantes-to-Brest canal ride.  The canal
> was built to save French shipping when the British were blockading the
> Brittany coast.  It was finished in 1856 and quickly made obsolete by the
> railroads.  Since there was little flood control, the towns are built on
> the hills above it.  So, a day’s ride capped by a steep climb, then dinner
> at a cafe, and a bottle of wine.  It is now part of Euro Velo Route 1.
>
> My wife and I reconnect on these rides, while seeing places where we’ve
> never been.  Four-ish hours of biking a day let us discuss more than “What
> color do you want to paint the dining room?”  The only downside is that we
> have to finish the day's ride - our luggage is already at the next B
>
> I’m deliberately avoiding putting a Riv into these shots.  There is a
> “daily post your riv” thread for that.  My Sam has made it through a couple
> of these trips.  Depending on the length of the ride, I used to be able to
> ship a bike as cheaply as renting one.
>
> Let's see if I've figured out how to attach a file...
>
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[RBW] WTB: 25.4mm Riser Handlebar

[C.J. Filip]

WTB 25.4mm clamp riser-type handlebar.  Examples include Answer Alumalite 
Riser Bar, Rtichey has one, Kalloy, ect.  Aluminum preferred to steel.  
Looking for 40-60mm of rise.  550mm+ width.  

The offerings for new bars with my specs are very affordable, however, I 
try to buy used whenever possible.  These will be going on a mid-90s 
Independent Fabrication Deluxe single speed mountain bike build.

Thanks!

Clark in north Idaho.

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Re: [RBW] FS Cranks, Bar Ends, Stem

[Brendan Willard]

Sugino BT, Shimano fc6206 triple and all bar ends sold. Thanks 

Speaking in Thumbs 

> On Jun 3, 2020, at 2:49 PM, Brendan Willard in SF  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm going through the parts bin and thought someone might be able to use some 
> of my accumulated stuff:
> 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1UOI3h9kMaUSG3tx97xGsZeNym8ZCzcZa
> 
> Assorted cranksets- Shimano, Sugino, SR Sprint 170-175mm $15+ Shipping
> 
> Sugino XD2 triple 175mm $25 + shipping
> 
> VO 25.4, 17x100mm stem $15 + shipping
> 
> 3 sets of bar ends. Vintage Shimano "Schwinn Approved", 2 Shimano 8/9 speed 
> (i always used them in friction) $20 + shipping
> 
> I'm open to trades and combining.  
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] FS Cranks, Bar Ends, Stem

[yavo]

Sorry: Brendan.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 7:06 PM yavo  wrote:

> Berndan: 1 set Shimano bar ends if still available. Fred
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:52 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> I'll take the "Schwinn Approved" if they are still available. Posted this
>> 3rd day of June at 4:50 PM Mountain/3:50 PM Pacific/6:50 PM Eastern, and
>> you Central-izers can go hang.
>>
>> P.A.M.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 3:49 PM Brendan Willard in SF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going through the parts bin and thought someone might be able to use
>>> some of my accumulated stuff:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1UOI3h9kMaUSG3tx97xGsZeNym8ZCzcZa
>>>
>>> Assorted cranksets- Shimano, Sugino, SR Sprint 170-175mm $15+ Shipping
>>>
>>> Sugino XD2 triple 175mm $25 + shipping
>>>
>>> VO 25.4, 17x100mm stem $15 + shipping
>>>
>>> 3 sets of bar ends. Vintage Shimano "Schwinn Approved", 2 Shimano 8/9
>>> speed (i always used them in friction) $20 + shipping
>>>
>>> I'm open to trades and combining.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] FS Cranks, Bar Ends, Stem

[yavo]

Berndan: 1 set Shimano bar ends if still available. Fred

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:52 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I'll take the "Schwinn Approved" if they are still available. Posted this
> 3rd day of June at 4:50 PM Mountain/3:50 PM Pacific/6:50 PM Eastern, and
> you Central-izers can go hang.
>
> P.A.M.
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 3:49 PM Brendan Willard in SF 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm going through the parts bin and thought someone might be able to use
>> some of my accumulated stuff:
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1UOI3h9kMaUSG3tx97xGsZeNym8ZCzcZa
>>
>> Assorted cranksets- Shimano, Sugino, SR Sprint 170-175mm $15+ Shipping
>>
>> Sugino XD2 triple 175mm $25 + shipping
>>
>> VO 25.4, 17x100mm stem $15 + shipping
>>
>> 3 sets of bar ends. Vintage Shimano "Schwinn Approved", 2 Shimano 8/9
>> speed (i always used them in friction) $20 + shipping
>>
>> I'm open to trades and combining.
>>
>> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Needed to buy a Suntour Rear Long Cage Derailleur quickly

[Roberta]

Joel,

Joe alerted me to this thread.  I sent you a PM. Check spam if you don't 
see it in your inbox.

Roberta

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 3:13:04 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Joe.  Yeah, 3 rides now, my back is ok so far.  Nice to ride.  The 
> bike is at the shop, after 10 years it needs a good tune up.  I either 
> damaged the derailleur or maybe bent the hanger, I think I prefer the Deore 
> as it is made in Japan, nor sure about the Acera.  I have not used a non 
> Suntour rear but friction shifting should be good with this.  The local 
> shop has the Acera but I think I would really prefer the Deore.  Roberta 
> can let me know, thanks.  I hope you are well.  
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Joe Bernard  > wrote:
>
>> Joel, you're back on the bike! That's great to hear. 
>>
>> Yes that Deore Riv sells is great for cassettes/freewheels up to 36t. If 
>> they're out of stock I know Roberta (REC) here is selling one. I'll let her 
>> know about this thread. 
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Re: [RBW] FS Cranks, Bar Ends, Stem

[Patrick Moore]

I'll take the "Schwinn Approved" if they are still available. Posted this
3rd day of June at 4:50 PM Mountain/3:50 PM Pacific/6:50 PM Eastern, and
you Central-izers can go hang.

P.A.M.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 3:49 PM Brendan Willard in SF 
wrote:

> I'm going through the parts bin and thought someone might be able to use
> some of my accumulated stuff:
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1UOI3h9kMaUSG3tx97xGsZeNym8ZCzcZa
>
> Assorted cranksets- Shimano, Sugino, SR Sprint 170-175mm $15+ Shipping
>
> Sugino XD2 triple 175mm $25 + shipping
>
> VO 25.4, 17x100mm stem $15 + shipping
>
> 3 sets of bar ends. Vintage Shimano "Schwinn Approved", 2 Shimano 8/9
> speed (i always used them in friction) $20 + shipping
>
> I'm open to trades and combining.
>
> Thanks!
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[RBW] Re: small bike frame help & recommendations / (WTB)

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

If Dave’s bike doesn’t work out I’d float the idea of a Woom 5.  If I had a sub 
5’ friend looking for a bike 24” wheels are really the size to go with if you 
want to avoid toe overlap and run fat-r tires.  And it has a lot of Rivish 
accouterments 

Good luck! I’ve been down your road before and it took a while to find “the 
right” something

Alex inn Rochester, NY

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Re: [RBW] FS Cranks, Bar Ends, Stem

[Brendan Willard in SF]

oops!

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UOI3h9kMaUSG3tx97xGsZeNym8ZCzcZa?usp=sharing


On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 2:50:31 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Bernard:
>
> Your Google Drive folder is locked down.
>
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>
> On Jun 3, 2020, at 2:49 PM, Brendan Willard in SF  > wrote:
>
> I'm going through the parts bin and thought someone might be able to use 
> some of my accumulated stuff:
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1UOI3h9kMaUSG3tx97xGsZeNym8ZCzcZa
>
> Assorted cranksets- Shimano, Sugino, SR Sprint 170-175mm $15+ Shipping
>
> Sugino XD2 triple 175mm $25 + shipping
>
> VO 25.4, 17x100mm stem $15 + shipping
>
> 3 sets of bar ends. Vintage Shimano "Schwinn Approved", 2 Shimano 8/9 
> speed (i always used them in friction) $20 + shipping
>
> I'm open to trades and combining.  
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [RBW] FS Cranks, Bar Ends, Stem

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Bernard:

Your Google Drive folder is locked down.

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> On Jun 3, 2020, at 2:49 PM, Brendan Willard in SF  wrote:
> 
> I'm going through the parts bin and thought someone might be able to use some 
> of my accumulated stuff:
> 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1UOI3h9kMaUSG3tx97xGsZeNym8ZCzcZa 
> 
> 
> Assorted cranksets- Shimano, Sugino, SR Sprint 170-175mm $15+ Shipping
> 
> Sugino XD2 triple 175mm $25 + shipping
> 
> VO 25.4, 17x100mm stem $15 + shipping
> 
> 3 sets of bar ends. Vintage Shimano "Schwinn Approved", 2 Shimano 8/9 speed 
> (i always used them in friction) $20 + shipping
> 
> I'm open to trades and combining.  
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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[RBW] FS Cranks, Bar Ends, Stem

[Brendan Willard in SF]

I'm going through the parts bin and thought someone might be able to use 
some of my accumulated stuff:

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1UOI3h9kMaUSG3tx97xGsZeNym8ZCzcZa

Assorted cranksets- Shimano, Sugino, SR Sprint 170-175mm $15+ Shipping

Sugino XD2 triple 175mm $25 + shipping

VO 25.4, 17x100mm stem $15 + shipping

3 sets of bar ends. Vintage Shimano "Schwinn Approved", 2 Shimano 8/9 speed 
(i always used them in friction) $20 + shipping

I'm open to trades and combining.  

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Roadini - 650b on bigger sizes?

[Jason Fuller]

Sorry I missed an important detail in my statement, "Roadini-adjacent *TIG* 
model with increased clearance and a couple more braze-ons".  A lower key, 
more economical model that could be competitive against models from Surly, 
Soma, Crust, etc.  I know the MIT lugged stuff is quite reasonable but it's 
still a big jump from $900 to $1500 (particularly for me in Canada, with 
the terrible exchange rate).  Trust me, I consider a AHH to pair with my 
Hillborne though!  Similar frames, but I'd set them up quite differently. 

On Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:19:15 UTC-7, Collin A wrote:
>
> Wouldn't that be the AHH? They have 650b wheels to size 58 with clearance 
> for a 44 (or tight 48).
>
> Collin in Sac
>
> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 11:40:44 AM UTC-7, Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>> I'm a broken record on this by now but I'm anxiously awaiting Rivendell 
>> coming out with a Roadini-adjacent model with increased clearance and a 
>> couple more braze-ons.  
>>
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[RBW] Re: Roadini - 650b on bigger sizes?

[Collin A]

Wouldn't that be the AHH? They have 650b wheels to size 58 with clearance 
for a 44 (or tight 48).

Collin in Sac

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> I'm a broken record on this by now but I'm anxiously awaiting Rivendell 
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> couple more braze-ons.  
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[RBW] Re: Roadini - 650b on bigger sizes?

[Jason Fuller]

Good reminder Erik - I have studied that image and indeed I've been 
withholding spending money on a new wheelset for my Clem because there's a 
non-zero chance I will jump on the presale of that frameset, given the 
chance. The posted geometry is a 700C frame and is probably my size (I 
might be able to go one down); I really hope for 650B! 

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Re: [RBW] Needed to buy a Suntour Rear Long Cage Derailleur quickly

[Joel Stern]

So you understand.  The first surgery had should’ve been more successful
it’s tried improving so I don’t know what went wrong especially with both
hands. The second surgery I had on my right hand to use something called a
mini tight rope, they insert a nylon thread like material with anchors from
your thumb into your next finger to reposition your thumb, it sounded great
but it’s not done the job and I am 5 1/2 months out now so it’s long enough
I would now maybe even six months.  Do whatever you can to keep yourself on
from having surgery if you need some info I have some braces that I’ve use
that are really not overly visible and they were quite well let me know and
I’ll send you the info on them if you’d like. Be well


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> Indeed Joel, I have the basal joint arthritis, too. So far mostly in my
> right hand so I swapped shifting so the rear is done with my left. I ride
> quite upright now to keep pressure off, and a hand therapist taught me to
> bend my thumbs around bars to alleviate stress on the joint (like this ).
> I used to ride with my thumbs stretched flat, I don't do that anymore.
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Re: [RBW] Needed to buy a Suntour Rear Long Cage Derailleur quickly

[Joe Bernard]

Indeed Joel, I have the basal joint arthritis, too. So far mostly in my right 
hand so I swapped shifting so the rear is done with my left. I ride quite 
upright now to keep pressure off, and a hand therapist taught me to bend my 
thumbs around bars to alleviate stress on the joint (like this ). I used to 
ride with my thumbs stretched flat, I don't do that anymore.   

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Re: [RBW] Re: On Topic / Off Topic

[Joe Bernard]

"What I observed was a really reasonable, civil topic highlighting BLM and an 
fundraising effort that Jan is making with Bicycle Quarterly. Maybe I missed 
something inflammatory in it, but the email is now lost."

It shouldn't be necessary to keep repeating this, it's in the original post on 
this thread. Jim was getting a lot of private feedback we have not seen. His 
decision was based on information we are not privy to. 

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[RBW] Re: Roadini - 650b on bigger sizes?

[Erik Wright]

A few weeks ago, maybe a month, when the Blug came out that talked about 
getting a shipment in (or something like that) they mentioned getting the 
Charlie H Gallup prototypes. No info other than that they'd been received, 
adjustments made, and a production run or something coming late-summer.

During that time, on a Riv-adjacent Instagram account, I definitely saw 
this bike (pictured) in the background sorta behind some people (and no, I 
don't *think* it was the Platypus prototype):

[image: No. 30 Early November. Required reading, this time. It's light.]

I think on the Gallup thread it was pretty decided that the Gallup would be 
this model featured in a Blahg, but wanted to point out that I don't think 
the Roadini-adjacent model will be a traditional diamond frame. Not that 
you necessarily said it would be, Jason, but that's kinda how I interpreted 
Roadini-adjacent. I think we're gonna get Sams to fill that wide-tired, 
not-AHH "road" bike and I think we're gonna get this swoop-tube Charlie H. 
Gallup as a tig'd budget-ish, fits-50mm-tires model.

That's just my guess!

Erik, Philly

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Re: [RBW] Needed to buy a Suntour Rear Long Cage Derailleur quickly

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Brendan.  Thumbs, a sore spot for me, basal joint arthritis.  Failed
surgery on both hands 10 years ago, lasted 5 years.  New technique on RT.
Hand in Dec, not good results.  Without thumbs everything is difficult.

Thanks for looking.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 4:16 PM Brendan Willard  wrote:

> No luck. I have an XT 9 speed rear with medium heavy use though. Not
> pretty, but bullet proof for 3x9.
>
> Speaking in Thumbs 
>
> > On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> >
> > Joel, you're back on the bike! That's great to hear.
> >
> > Yes that Deore Riv sells is great for cassettes/freewheels up to 36t. If
> they're out of stock I know Roberta (REC) here is selling one. I'll let her
> know about this thread.
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Re: [RBW] Needed to buy a Suntour Rear Long Cage Derailleur quickly

[Brendan Willard]

No luck. I have an XT 9 speed rear with medium heavy use though. Not pretty, 
but bullet proof for 3x9. 

Speaking in Thumbs 

> On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Joel, you're back on the bike! That's great to hear. 
> 
> Yes that Deore Riv sells is great for cassettes/freewheels up to 36t. If 
> they're out of stock I know Roberta (REC) here is selling one. I'll let her 
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Re: [RBW] Re: On Topic / Off Topic

[Steve Palincsar]

On 6/3/20 3:10 PM, William Henderson wrote:
What I observed was a really reasonable, civil topic highlighting BLM 
and an fundraising effort that Jan is making with Bicycle Quarterly. 
Maybe I missed something inflammatory in it, but the email is now lost 
(along with the link 
).



The initial email was informative rather than inflammatory.  It also 
asked that there be no follow-on discussion on the list, asking that if 
anyone wanted to discuss the subject to do so on the Rene Herse blog.




Like others, I want this to remain a civil community. However, I find 
the judgement call about what is "on topic" problematic. If this is 
about civility, let's focus on that and not muddy the waters with any 
other areas for subjectivity.


Here are some different actions that could be taken:
- Write a code of conduct for the group and post it as a sticky post. 
Be clear about what constitutes uncivil behavior, what kinds of topics 
are explicitly disallowed, and what the consequences are when someone 
breaks the rules.
- When it comes to deleting threads, I think it's really important to 
preserve the thread so that people can see how the code is being 
enforced. This provides accountability in both directions. The obvious 
exception would be for threads or messages that are hateful or 
abusive. I'd suggest a policy like this:


 1. When someone posts something uncivil, it will be deleted.
 2. When someone posts something about a topic that is explicitly
disallowed, the thread will be locked (but not deleted) along with
a reminder about the code of conduct.
 3. When someone posts something that isn't uncivil seems like it
could be taking the thread in that direction, the thread will be
locked (but not deleted) along with a personal statement from the
moderator about them making the call to shut it down in order to
protect the community sense of safety and civility.



This would work nicely if this was a forum.  But there is a technical 
problem.  It is not a forum, it is a google group. While a google group 
may look like a forum to those who access it via a web browser, it also 
acts like an email discussion group / listserv, and a significant number 
of participants get list postings by email.  Google group software can't 
delete already delivered emails and doesn't provide a way to lock a 
topic so that email replies to already received emails in the discussion 
topic aren't delivered.


From a moderator / list owner's perspective, this makes the moderation 
job more complicated.


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Re: [RBW] Re: On Topic / Off Topic

[MCT]

Thanks Jim for all the work you do for the group.  

This is a simple one. Jim is the moderator and decides the rules and what is 
acceptable to post.  If don’t like the rules, then start your own group/forum 
where you can make the rules you want. 


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[RBW] Re: FS: Ergon, Jones, Wolf Tooth and Continental

[Bruce Smitham]

Update. Any reasonable offers on the Jone saddle and Wolf Tooth B-Rad Pump 
Bag accepted. 

>
> For sale are new bike items in case you're interested. Prices do not 
>> include shipping CONUS or free local pick up in San Diego.
>>
>> *SOLD* Ergon GS1-L black $20
>>
>> Jeff Jones saddle take off $20
>>
>> Wolf Tooth B-Rad System Pump Bag $25
>>
>> *SOLD* Continental Race 28 (700c X 25-32) 42mm presta valves inner tubes 
>> X 2  $5 each or $8 for both
>>
>> Thanks, Bruce
>>
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Re: [RBW] Needed to buy a Suntour Rear Long Cage Derailleur quickly

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Joe.  Yeah, 3 rides now, my back is ok so far.  Nice to ride.  The
bike is at the shop, after 10 years it needs a good tune up.  I either
damaged the derailleur or maybe bent the hanger, I think I prefer the Deore
as it is made in Japan, nor sure about the Acera.  I have not used a non
Suntour rear but friction shifting should be good with this.  The local
shop has the Acera but I think I would really prefer the Deore.  Roberta
can let me know, thanks.  I hope you are well.

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> Joel, you're back on the bike! That's great to hear.
>
> Yes that Deore Riv sells is great for cassettes/freewheels up to 36t. If
> they're out of stock I know Roberta (REC) here is selling one. I'll let her
> know about this thread.
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Re: [RBW] Re: On Topic / Off Topic

[William Henderson]

What I observed was a really reasonable, civil topic highlighting BLM and an 
fundraising effort that Jan is making with Bicycle Quarterly. Maybe I missed 
something inflammatory in it, but the email is now lost (along with the link ( 
https://www.renehersecycles.com/a-small-thing-bq-fund-drive-to-benefit-black-lives-matter/
 ) ).

Like others, I want this to remain a civil community. However, I find the 
judgement call about what is "on topic" problematic. If this is about civility, 
let's focus on that and not muddy the waters with any other areas for 
subjectivity.

Here are some different actions that could be taken:

- Write a code of conduct for the group and post it as a sticky post. Be clear 
about what constitutes uncivil behavior, what kinds of topics are explicitly 
disallowed, and what the consequences are when someone breaks the rules.

- When it comes to deleting threads, I think it's really important to preserve 
the thread so that people can see how the code is being enforced. This provides 
accountability in both directions. The obvious exception would be for threads 
or messages that are hateful or abusive. I'd suggest a policy like this:

* When someone posts something uncivil, it will be deleted.

* When someone posts something about a topic that is explicitly disallowed, the 
thread will be locked (but not deleted) along with a reminder about the code of 
conduct.

* When someone posts something that isn't uncivil seems like it could be taking 
the thread in that direction, the thread will be locked (but not deleted) along 
with a personal statement from the moderator about them making the call to shut 
it down in order to protect the community sense of safety and civility.

Again, this is ultimately your community Jim and you have the power & 
responsibility to make the call here. The rest of us have the power & 
responsibility to make sure that we are participating in a community that is 
compatible with our core values.

William

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On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 9:42 AM, Philip Williamson < 
philip.william...@gmail.com > wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for your thoughtful post, Franklyn. I agree that race is an
> in-bounds topic here, but name-calling is unacceptable and
> counter-persuasive. I’ve seen more people bend away from their reflexive
> answers in the last few days than ever before on the internet, and only in
> response to kindness while explaining a different perspective.
> 
> 
> 
> I’m sorry that stuff happens to you. It sounds much worse than my
> experience with people in cars who feel I’m a just target for being on
> “their” roads. I’m glad you persist in riding. I also particularly enjoy
> your photos of Berkeley views.
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Needed to buy a Suntour Rear Long Cage Derailleur quickly

[Joe Bernard]

Joel, you're back on the bike! That's great to hear. 

Yes that Deore Riv sells is great for cassettes/freewheels up to 36t. If 
they're out of stock I know Roberta (REC) here is selling one. I'll let her 
know about this thread. 

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[RBW] Re: Roadini - 650b on bigger sizes?

[Jason Fuller]

I'm a broken record on this by now but I'm anxiously awaiting Rivendell 
coming out with a Roadini-adjacent model with increased clearance and a 
couple more braze-ons.  

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RE: [RBW] Re: FS: Surly Rack and Brooks B17 Special

[J. Laing Conley, PE, LEED AP]

You can still buy brand new B-68 and B-68S on eBay. I have bought several in 
the past year, including the aged models with the pre-punched holes along the 
bottom edge – from 90 to 150 for new, less for used. Just put a permanent 
search with notification in and wait. You will just need to be faster in 
responding than I am. You will get a lot of false hits for a Baseball Card.

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Re: [RBW] Needed to buy a Suntour Rear Long Cage Derailleur quickly

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Brendan, my parts supply was sold off when I thought I would not be 
riding again. Here is a note I put on the iBob page. Let me know if you 
find something.

Joel

Looks like these will be hard to find so I will probably get a Shimano 
Acera M 360 or Shimano Deore M 591. Any thoughts for casual riding, they 
are both long cage and from the Riv page seems like both will work fine. 
Mark at Rivendell was a great help and it was nice to talk to him after so 
many years. Now that I am riding again I need to get my Bleriot perfect. 
Thanks

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 2:01:03 PM UTC-4, Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
>
> I will check!
>
> Speaking in Thumbs 
>
> On Jun 3, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Joel Stern > 
> wrote:
>
> 
> anyone have anything, NOS would be great, bent the X 5000 I think it was 
> on my bike, cyclone or something that will work with a triple is all I 
> need. 
>
> Thanks
>
> Joel Stern
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Re: [RBW] Needed to buy a Suntour Rear Long Cage Derailleur quickly

[Brendan Willard]

I will check!

Speaking in Thumbs 

> On Jun 3, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Joel Stern  wrote:
> 
> 
> anyone have anything, NOS would be great, bent the X 5000 I think it was on 
> my bike, cyclone or something that will work with a triple is all I need. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
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[RBW] Re: two rivendells for sale

[greenteadrinkers]

Regarding the wheel set, what are the spoke counts? Also, are you running 
tubeless GK's? and the are rims tubeless ready?, looking at the product 
page, that seems to be the case, just wanted to make sure one way or the 
other. What's your PBH? Thx!

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 7:38:21 PM UTC-4, Robert Blunt wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
> With the pandemic induced economic downturn, I will have to let my bikes 
> go. I have a 55 cheviot that is literally brand new with less than ten 
> miles on it and includes the following build details:
> Sugino xd2 cranks (26,36,48 I think), ahearne map bars, brooks leather 
> grips, nitto technomic stem, shimano brake levers, simworks potluck rack, 
> nitto seatpost, brooks sprung saddle, simworks hammered fenders, deore rear 
> derailleur, vintage campagnolo mtb front derailleur, paul thumbies, shimano 
> ultegra bar end shifters, grip king peddles, and tektro r559 brakes. The 
> wheelset is a generic 650b set I got off ebay and the tires are compass 
> babyshoe pass and are 650B x 42mm. I am asking $2000 plus shipping.
>
> The craigslist listing for the cheviot is done but shoppok still has it 
> posted so you can see one image here: 
> https://www.shoppok.com/southjersey/a,28,230029,Rivendell-cheviot2200--Pennington-.htm
> . 
>
> I would be happy to send additional photos to anyone who might be 
> interested. I am not very good with technology so I don't know how to 
> reduce photos to attach for the purposes of the group
>
> I also have a 51cm Sam Hillborne, the black and creme one with canti 
> brakes. There is a small scuff on the top tube which was there when I 
> bought it from a list member otherwise the frame was new. The bike also has 
> fewer than ten miles on it. Build details
> Sugino XD2 cranks (26, 36, 48), Nitto noodle bars (46cm), Nitto technomic 
> stem, shimano ultegra bar end shifters (9 peed), tektro brake levers and XC 
> interrupter levers as well. The wheel set is very nice: The front wheel has 
> a son28 front dynohub laced to a Pacenti Brevet 650B rim, and the rear 
> wheel consists of a White Industries MI5 laced to another Pacenti Brevet 
> rim (wheels are brand new). The dynohub powers a Schmidt Edelux light 
> mounted to the front rack. Tires are black Panaracer Gravel Kings. Nitto 
> front rack, and Nitto campee rack on the back. Old used small Sackville 
> trunk sack is on the front. Altus rear derailleur. IRD front derailleur. 
> The front brake is a Paul canti and the rear is a diacompe canti, tektro 
> brake levers. The seat post is a vintage Sakae SR MTE-100 which can adjust 
> horizontally pretty widely (basically the same design as IRD Wayback seat 
> post) . The saddle is a nicely broken in Brooks B-17. Burgundy cotton bar 
> tape, black Velo Orange fenders. Two leg touring kickstand. Grip King 
> pedals. I think that is everything. The bike has less than ten miles on it 
> also. I am asking 2800, plus shipping. 
>
> Again, I am happy to send photos to anyone who asks. Although not RIvy and 
> off topic, I am also selling a 2019 Trek Carbon Checkpoint with 105 
> component group, and an older Bike Friday Tandem. Thanks for your 
> consideration and please ask questions.
> Best,
> Robert Blunt
> Pennington, NJ
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[RBW] Re: small bike frame help & recommendations / (WTB)

[Dave S]

I might have something for you.  PM incoming.

Dave in NJ

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 11:02:05 AM UTC-4, Patch T wrote:
>
> Hey Bunch,
>
> I rebuilt a 19"/48cm 1987 Trek 330 Elance for my partner with 650b wheels 
> and albatrosses. I thought it would fit but it's too big for her. In 
> retrospect, I actually just *wanted* the frame to fit because I liked it 
> so much, and thought I could make it work. It doesn't. She could use 
> another inch of standover room. I don't think going down one size in a 
> similar road/sport-touring frame would be enough -- not to mention hard to 
> find.
>
> I'm thinking of a mountain bike frame from the 90s for her instead, as 
> shorter standover heights are more common, and I have a good 26" wheelset 
> lying around with no use. Worried, however, about weight...
>
> I'd love any recommendations of specific models, tubing, etc to look for 
> as I hunt; or, if you have something that fits the bill. Just looking for a 
> frame + fork (headsets, BBs and seatposts welcome but not necessary)
> *Here are her requirements:*
>
>- 26" (or 650b converted) 
>- <74cm standover height (with 26x1.5-2.0 or 650x38-42b tires, give or 
>take)
>- not a mixte or step-through (her demand, not mine!)
>- not too heavy, we live up a couple flights of stairs with no 
>elevator - cannot be a tank!
>- rim brake, no disc
>- under $400 for frame+fork
>
> *Her Trek:*
> Size 19", has a 47.5cm ST and a 74cm SO (frame has a sloping top tube, so 
> it varies) with 650 x 38b tires. 
> *It's a great frameset with 531 tubing - will be putting it up for sale 
> once I get a replacement for her.*
>
> Let me know if I'm forgetting anything. Thanks for reading! 
>
> Patch
> BK/NY
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[RBW] Needed to buy a Suntour Rear Long Cage Derailleur quickly

[Joel Stern]

anyone have anything, NOS would be great, bent the X 5000 I think it was on 
my bike, cyclone or something that will work with a triple is all I need. 

Thanks

Joel Stern

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[RBW] Re: FS: MIT Atlantis

[Steve Cole]



On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 11:23:51 PM UTC-4, YQ wrote:
>
> I've listed my Atlantis for sale on eBay if anyone in the group is 
> interested: https://www.ebay.com/itm/303584929205. I would also be 
> willing to sell directly. Please let me know if you have any questions. 
> Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: On Topic / Off Topic

[Philip Williamson]

Thank you for your thoughtful post, Franklyn. I agree that race is an in-bounds 
topic here, but name-calling is unacceptable and counter-persuasive. I’ve seen 
more people bend away from their reflexive answers in the last few days than 
ever before on the internet, and only in response to kindness while explaining 
a different perspective. 

I’m sorry that stuff happens to you. It sounds much worse than my experience 
with people in cars who feel I’m a just target for being on “their” roads. I’m 
glad you persist in riding. I also particularly enjoy your photos of Berkeley 
views. 


Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: On Topic / Off Topic

[Joe Bernard]

To reiterate because I think it's going to get lost, Jim has stated the thread 
was pulled because public and private comments led him to determine the 
discussion was going to get out of control. He didn't pull it because of the 
charitable organization itself. 

Joe Bernard

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[RBW] Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

[True Golden]

Welcome Brady Smith!
Your Black Mountain looks ready for all sorts of great riding.I like that 
yellow color.
Paul in Dallas 

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[RBW] Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

[True Golden]

John Johnson, 
That stream in the forested area looks enchanting.
It looks to be a wonderful place for contemplating and refreshing ones soul.
Paul in Dallas

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[RBW] Re: FS: MIT Atlantis

[YQ]

I've had a change of heart and decided to keep the frame and part it out, 
so I have ended the listing. 

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 8:23:51 PM UTC-7, YQ wrote:
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> I've listed my Atlantis for sale on eBay if anyone in the group is 
> interested: https://www.ebay.com/itm/303584929205. I would also be 
> willing to sell directly. Please let me know if you have any questions. 
> Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] Re: On Topic / Off Topic

[Patrick Moore]

Garth, sometimes you actually make sense. Good points.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 1:41 AM Garth  wrote:

>
>I appreciate this place because we don't talk politics, religion and
> social issues of the day.  As stated, there are many other places to do
> that, and many places that decidedly do not. Would I expect to hear about
> the issues of the day on a website about say cooking, auto repair,
> living/hanging out in the wilderness and such ?  Decidedly nay. Do the site
> admins there welcome such diversions ? Not if they wish to stay on topic.
>
>   It's impossible to "talk about the pressing issues of the day because I
> care"  and not get swept away in playing out the very representative
> roles that those issues encompass. What drives the story ? Conflict,
> division, taking/making sides . _ vs._ .   When does it end ?
> Not by playing it out, that's for sure. It "ends" by having no ground from
> which to begin in the first place.
>
>   - Garth
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[RBW] Re: On Topic / Off Topic

[franklyn]

I appreciate the work Jim does to moderate the forum. I haven't owned a 
Rivendell in 10 years but all my bikes reflect preferences I gained because 
of Rivendell's influence, and I still use many parts and accessories that 
Riv sells. 

I think drawing a line on the metric of civility, tones, and respect is 
very reasonable. I remember members requesting moderators to shut down a 
thread on helmet debate. The fact is, we can get pretty worked up on 
bike-exclusive issues like low/high trail; long/short chainstays, etc. 
Disagreement ain't bad, we just don't want to call each other names!

I appreciate Grant's newest blahg entry, as he makes plain that bicycles 
are inextricably linked to human history and activities, and racial and 
other social justice are no exceptions. In the worst pandemic we have faced 
for 100 years, even public health experts support protest and assembly 
because racial injustice to them is a "public health" issue.

Personally, I can speak to how my experience with biking are tied to the 
issue of race. I love doing long-distance rides; brevets, mixed-terrain 
ramblings, short and long tours, S24Os. Even in places that are considered 
"diverse" and "progressive" I have experienced hostility that are thrown my 
way because I am not white, anywhere from race-tinted jokes and names, fake 
accents, sometimes those comes in combination with things thrown my way; 
one time a passenger of a truck swung a plastic soda bottle at me as they 
drove by, while saying some racial epithets. Riding our bikes to beautiful 
and remote places is liberating, but this type of activities also makes us 
vulnerable. On a tour, bike trip, or long rides, in addition to all the 
usual bike-related logistics, I always wonder, and sometimes look into, 
whether a locale is 1) friendly to cyclists; 2) does it have a reputation 
of treating POCs poorly. Obviously, we are still sheltering in place and I 
don't have plans to do any bike travel right now, but the 
anti-asian/anti-chinese sentiments and attacks that came with pandemic give 
me more pause on traveling to some locations. 

My point is, we talk a lot about life circumstances when it intercept 
cycling/bikes: commute; city infrastructure; traffic; bike-friendly 
services/locales; aging and health. For people of color, especially the 
African American community, race intercepts/cuts deeper and affects us just 
as much, if not more than some or all of these other categories that are OK 
to talk about on this list. Many of these other issues are "political" 
and/or controversial, too. Whether local transportation and urban planning 
policies (funding for bike-specific infrastructure; lowering the speed 
limit, etc.) appropriately address the needs of non-car modes are deeply 
political and can be divisive, and no one bats an eye if a lister shares 
the experience that residents of a particular neighborhood are especially 
anti-bikes (as shown by anti-bike signs or laying tacks on the road, etc.). 
A year or so ago, someone set up a booby trap on a popular bike path in 
Portland (OR) and seriously injured a cyclist. The perpetrator was arrested 
and later put on trial. I don't think anyone would object talking about 
that on this list, so why is racial injustice any different, after all, it 
serious endanger some people, including when they are riding bikes (or 
jogging, as in the case of Armaud Arbery).

We never had any problem when Grant and sometimes even other listers 
announce a charitable cause, why should we block Jan from announcing his? 
After all, even if we are allergic to "racial" stuff, (as I mentioned 
earlier) public health experts support the protesters congregating despite 
the pandemic because racial injustice is a serious "public health" issue. 
How is soliciting contribution for a public health cause any different than 
other cause that other listers solicit for?

I am not opposed to banning and removing certain threads, and I think 
negativity/uncivility/lack of respect is a good criterion for that, not the 
fact that we are talking about something related to race or other social 
justice issues.
with respect,
Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 10:58:12 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> I appreciate the honesty of your feedback. 
>
> It may have been absolutely the wrong move. We are all decidedly 
> imperfect. 
>
> My decision was related more to the tone of the responses (both public and 
> moderated) which seemed to be quickly going off-course. it seemed to be 
> boiling up, which is happening quite a bit of late. 
>
> - Jim
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[RBW] small bike frame help & recommendations / (WTB)

[Patch T]

Hey Bunch,

I rebuilt a 19"/48cm 1987 Trek 330 Elance for my partner with 650b wheels 
and albatrosses. I thought it would fit but it's too big for her. In 
retrospect, I actually just *wanted* the frame to fit because I liked it so 
much, and thought I could make it work. It doesn't. She could use another 
inch of standover room. I don't think going down one size in a similar 
road/sport-touring frame would be enough -- not to mention hard to find.

I'm thinking of a mountain bike frame from the 90s for her instead, as 
shorter standover heights are more common, and I have a good 26" wheelset 
lying around with no use. Worried, however, about weight...

I'd love any recommendations of specific models, tubing, etc to look for as 
I hunt; or, if you have something that fits the bill. Just looking for a 
frame + fork (headsets, BBs and seatposts welcome but not necessary)
*Here are her requirements:*

   - 26" (or 650b converted) 
   - <74cm standover height (with 26x1.5-2.0 or 650x38-42b tires, give or 
   take)
   - not a mixte or step-through (her demand, not mine!)
   - not too heavy, we live up a couple flights of stairs with no elevator 
   - cannot be a tank!
   - rim brake, no disc
   - under $400 for frame+fork

*Her Trek:*
Size 19", has a 47.5cm ST and a 74cm SO (frame has a sloping top tube, so 
it varies) with 650 x 38b tires. 
*It's a great frameset with 531 tubing - will be putting it up for sale 
once I get a replacement for her.*

Let me know if I'm forgetting anything. Thanks for reading! 

Patch
BK/NY

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[RBW] WTB - Nigel Smythe Saddle Bag

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

PM attempted also.

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: two rivendells for sale

[greenteadrinkers]

Interested in the 51 Sam, could you send photos? Exactly what my wife is 
looking for.

Thanks,
Scott

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 7:38:21 PM UTC-4, Robert Blunt wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
> With the pandemic induced economic downturn, I will have to let my bikes 
> go. I have a 55 cheviot that is literally brand new with less than ten 
> miles on it and includes the following build details:
> Sugino xd2 cranks (26,36,48 I think), ahearne map bars, brooks leather 
> grips, nitto technomic stem, shimano brake levers, simworks potluck rack, 
> nitto seatpost, brooks sprung saddle, simworks hammered fenders, deore rear 
> derailleur, vintage campagnolo mtb front derailleur, paul thumbies, shimano 
> ultegra bar end shifters, grip king peddles, and tektro r559 brakes. The 
> wheelset is a generic 650b set I got off ebay and the tires are compass 
> babyshoe pass and are 650B x 42mm. I am asking $2000 plus shipping.
>
> The craigslist listing for the cheviot is done but shoppok still has it 
> posted so you can see one image here: 
> https://www.shoppok.com/southjersey/a,28,230029,Rivendell-cheviot2200--Pennington-.htm
> . 
>
> I would be happy to send additional photos to anyone who might be 
> interested. I am not very good with technology so I don't know how to 
> reduce photos to attach for the purposes of the group
>
> I also have a 51cm Sam Hillborne, the black and creme one with canti 
> brakes. There is a small scuff on the top tube which was there when I 
> bought it from a list member otherwise the frame was new. The bike also has 
> fewer than ten miles on it. Build details
> Sugino XD2 cranks (26, 36, 48), Nitto noodle bars (46cm), Nitto technomic 
> stem, shimano ultegra bar end shifters (9 peed), tektro brake levers and XC 
> interrupter levers as well. The wheel set is very nice: The front wheel has 
> a son28 front dynohub laced to a Pacenti Brevet 650B rim, and the rear 
> wheel consists of a White Industries MI5 laced to another Pacenti Brevet 
> rim (wheels are brand new). The dynohub powers a Schmidt Edelux light 
> mounted to the front rack. Tires are black Panaracer Gravel Kings. Nitto 
> front rack, and Nitto campee rack on the back. Old used small Sackville 
> trunk sack is on the front. Altus rear derailleur. IRD front derailleur. 
> The front brake is a Paul canti and the rear is a diacompe canti, tektro 
> brake levers. The seat post is a vintage Sakae SR MTE-100 which can adjust 
> horizontally pretty widely (basically the same design as IRD Wayback seat 
> post) . The saddle is a nicely broken in Brooks B-17. Burgundy cotton bar 
> tape, black Velo Orange fenders. Two leg touring kickstand. Grip King 
> pedals. I think that is everything. The bike has less than ten miles on it 
> also. I am asking 2800, plus shipping. 
>
> Again, I am happy to send photos to anyone who asks. Although not RIvy and 
> off topic, I am also selling a 2019 Trek Carbon Checkpoint with 105 
> component group, and an older Bike Friday Tandem. Thanks for your 
> consideration and please ask questions.
> Best,
> Robert Blunt
> Pennington, NJ
>

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[RBW] WTB - Nigel Smythe Saddle Bag

[Carla Waugh]

I have one that doesn't have all Of the leather straps. If you send me an email 
lhtbikert...@gmail.com I can send you pics.

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[RBW] FS: Showers Pass Refuge Jacket - Medium

[Tim Bantham]

Hello All, 

I've got a *Showers Pass Refuge* rain jacket that I'd like to pass along. 
Its in great condition and just over a year old. No marks, stains or tears 
in the fabric. The color is graphite in a size *medium*. This is a 
fantastic jacket for those who need protection from the rain and wind. The 
size chart list a medium for those with a chest size of 40 to 42". To give 
a feel for the size I am 6' 1" and weigh around 160 lbs. I have long arms 
and a short torso. The jacket sits at the waist and the arm length is 
plenty long. I would describe the fit as athletic but not tight. The jacket 
is designed for cycling so when you are on the bike it doesn't interfere 
with pedaling and gives your back plenty of coverage. There is a flap that 
can be unbuttoned allowing it to hang down protecting you backside.  The 
Showers Pass brand name speaks for itself. You won't find much better for 
your rainy day rides. 

$100 shipped to the lower 48. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: MIT Atlantis

[Michael Williams]

YQ,   never mind.I wasn’t initially able to click on your eBay listing for 
some reason.  Eventually it worked and it looks to be too small.  Awesome build 
though.   -Mike

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> On Jun 2, 2020, at 11:23 PM, YQ  wrote:
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> I've listed my Atlantis for sale on eBay if anyone in the group is 
> interested: https://www.ebay.com/itm/303584929205. I would also be willing to 
> sell directly. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] FS: MIT Atlantis

[Michael Williams]

Hey YQ,  what size is your Atlantis for sale?

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[RBW] Re: On Topic / Off Topic

[Garth]

   I appreciate this place because we don't talk politics, religion and 
social issues of the day.  As stated, there are many other places to do 
that, and many places that decidedly do not. Would I expect to hear about 
the issues of the day on a website about say cooking, auto repair, 
living/hanging out in the wilderness and such ?  Decidedly nay. Do the site 
admins there welcome such diversions ? Not if they wish to stay on topic. 

  It's impossible to "talk about the pressing issues of the day because I 
care"  and not get swept away in playing out the very representative 
roles that those issues encompass. What drives the story ? Conflict, 
division, taking/making sides . _ vs._ .   When does it end ?  
Not by playing it out, that's for sure. It "ends" by having no ground from 
which to begin in the first place. 

  - Garth 

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