Re: [RBW] New Frame

[Joel Stern]

Typo, that should be a 50cm, not 59.  I will send you a private reply.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 10:53 PM Jon Dukeman 
wrote:

> Wow! Thanks.
> 8 weeks ago I had lower lumbar decompression surgery because my left foot
> dropped. I used to be 6'3" I'm now 6'1". I haven't ridden since last
> September. I now have good days and bad. I hope I'm able to ride again. I
> rode up and down the street a couple of times Saturday. I'm 69 yrs old.
> Having trouble getting my leg over the saddle when dissmounting.
> The 58 Sam just touches when I stand over. I could ride the Cheviot all
> day long.
> I'd like to hear more about your back if you feel like sharing.
> I'm glad you will be back in the saddle again.
> I don't know what I would do if I was told I couldn't ride again.
> Sounds like you are in California.
> I used to live down south in Long Beach.
> Nice talking with you.
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 8:35 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>
>> Jon, the last measurement, 3+ times was in the 80.645 area.  Years ago
>> when Grant measured me it was 82 or 83.  I know even though I have lost 2”
>> after 2 back surgeries it seems impossible that I could lose anything from
>> the pelvic bone down.  My last custom, which I sold when I thought I would
>> never ride again was 56cm.  The Saluki I bought at 56cm was too big, the
>> Bleriot seemed fine but maybe I was more tolerant of a close fit.  The 50cm
>> Atlantis with the new geometry I was told would have me taking a bike 4cm
>> less than my Bleriot, so a 54, which was not made would have been the
>> equivalent by using the 4” rule.  1cm less height may have made the bike
>> perfect, 2 cm probably better.  I did try a 51 Appaloosa by invitation from
>> a forum member, it seemed ok, I brushed the TT a bit less than on the
>> Bleriot.  I spoke with Grant and he was certain the 59cm Atlantis would be
>> a better fit, and I will use a 48mm tire vs. the 42mm I am using on the
>> Bleriot.  If the TT is not giving you any issues on the Sam I bet it is the
>> correct size.  My first Riv was a 53, then a 54, etc.  the 54 was probably
>> the correct size but I wanted a true custom vs. a Road (stupid I know).  I
>> had a 52.5cm AR that was probably perfect and if I had used fat tires I bet
>> I would have loved it. I was riding 28’s I think.  That is the one I regret
>> parting with the most.
>> My Bleriot is a pleasure to ride now that I have remembered where to hold
>> the Albatross bars for best stability, the Atlantis will be a totally
>> different animal I am told.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 8:28 PM Jon Dukeman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Joel. Can I ask your PBH? Mine is 87PBH
>>> I have a 58 Sam and a 60Cheviot.
>>> Both are really comfortable after I get on. But they seem big when
>>> getting on or off.
>>> Did you feel that way with your old bike?
>>> Sometimes I feel I could use a smaller frame. Maybe I'm getting oldI
>>> was looking at a 55 Atlantis.
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:03 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Jon, it's a 50cm. I really wanted an orange Appaloosa but the
 50cm is just a better fit for me. My 55cm Bleriot is a tad big for me, that
 was my excuse for getting a new frame.

 It will be a simple build with my favorite parts.

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:49 PM Jon Dukeman 
 wrote:

> Nice. What size is the frame? Looking forward to seeing final build.
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:44 PM Joel  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Newest frame patiently waiting to be built up. Waiting for wheels
>> from Peter White, all parts are ready to go, or I should say almost ready
>> to go. Framesaved, hanging up in basement. More when it is finished.
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Frame

[Jon Dukeman]

Wow! Thanks.
8 weeks ago I had lower lumbar decompression surgery because my left foot
dropped. I used to be 6'3" I'm now 6'1". I haven't ridden since last
September. I now have good days and bad. I hope I'm able to ride again. I
rode up and down the street a couple of times Saturday. I'm 69 yrs old.
Having trouble getting my leg over the saddle when dissmounting.
The 58 Sam just touches when I stand over. I could ride the Cheviot all day
long.
I'd like to hear more about your back if you feel like sharing.
I'm glad you will be back in the saddle again.
I don't know what I would do if I was told I couldn't ride again.
Sounds like you are in California.
I used to live down south in Long Beach.
Nice talking with you.
Jon

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 8:35 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Jon, the last measurement, 3+ times was in the 80.645 area.  Years ago
> when Grant measured me it was 82 or 83.  I know even though I have lost 2”
> after 2 back surgeries it seems impossible that I could lose anything from
> the pelvic bone down.  My last custom, which I sold when I thought I would
> never ride again was 56cm.  The Saluki I bought at 56cm was too big, the
> Bleriot seemed fine but maybe I was more tolerant of a close fit.  The 50cm
> Atlantis with the new geometry I was told would have me taking a bike 4cm
> less than my Bleriot, so a 54, which was not made would have been the
> equivalent by using the 4” rule.  1cm less height may have made the bike
> perfect, 2 cm probably better.  I did try a 51 Appaloosa by invitation from
> a forum member, it seemed ok, I brushed the TT a bit less than on the
> Bleriot.  I spoke with Grant and he was certain the 59cm Atlantis would be
> a better fit, and I will use a 48mm tire vs. the 42mm I am using on the
> Bleriot.  If the TT is not giving you any issues on the Sam I bet it is the
> correct size.  My first Riv was a 53, then a 54, etc.  the 54 was probably
> the correct size but I wanted a true custom vs. a Road (stupid I know).  I
> had a 52.5cm AR that was probably perfect and if I had used fat tires I bet
> I would have loved it. I was riding 28’s I think.  That is the one I regret
> parting with the most.
> My Bleriot is a pleasure to ride now that I have remembered where to hold
> the Albatross bars for best stability, the Atlantis will be a totally
> different animal I am told.
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 8:28 PM Jon Dukeman 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Joel. Can I ask your PBH? Mine is 87PBH
>> I have a 58 Sam and a 60Cheviot.
>> Both are really comfortable after I get on. But they seem big when
>> getting on or off.
>> Did you feel that way with your old bike?
>> Sometimes I feel I could use a smaller frame. Maybe I'm getting oldI
>> was looking at a 55 Atlantis.
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:03 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jon, it's a 50cm. I really wanted an orange Appaloosa but the
>>> 50cm is just a better fit for me. My 55cm Bleriot is a tad big for me, that
>>> was my excuse for getting a new frame.
>>>
>>> It will be a simple build with my favorite parts.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:49 PM Jon Dukeman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Nice. What size is the frame? Looking forward to seeing final build.
 Jon

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:44 PM Joel  wrote:

>
>
> Newest frame patiently waiting to be built up. Waiting for wheels from
> Peter White, all parts are ready to go, or I should say almost ready to 
> go.
> Framesaved, hanging up in basement. More when it is finished.
>
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Re: [RBW] New Frame

[Joel Stern]

Jon, the last measurement, 3+ times was in the 80.645 area.  Years ago when
Grant measured me it was 82 or 83.  I know even though I have lost 2” after
2 back surgeries it seems impossible that I could lose anything from the
pelvic bone down.  My last custom, which I sold when I thought I would
never ride again was 56cm.  The Saluki I bought at 56cm was too big, the
Bleriot seemed fine but maybe I was more tolerant of a close fit.  The 50cm
Atlantis with the new geometry I was told would have me taking a bike 4cm
less than my Bleriot, so a 54, which was not made would have been the
equivalent by using the 4” rule.  1cm less height may have made the bike
perfect, 2 cm probably better.  I did try a 51 Appaloosa by invitation from
a forum member, it seemed ok, I brushed the TT a bit less than on the
Bleriot.  I spoke with Grant and he was certain the 59cm Atlantis would be
a better fit, and I will use a 48mm tire vs. the 42mm I am using on the
Bleriot.  If the TT is not giving you any issues on the Sam I bet it is the
correct size.  My first Riv was a 53, then a 54, etc.  the 54 was probably
the correct size but I wanted a true custom vs. a Road (stupid I know).  I
had a 52.5cm AR that was probably perfect and if I had used fat tires I bet
I would have loved it. I was riding 28’s I think.  That is the one I regret
parting with the most.
My Bleriot is a pleasure to ride now that I have remembered where to hold
the Albatross bars for best stability, the Atlantis will be a totally
different animal I am told.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 8:28 PM Jon Dukeman 
wrote:

> Thanks Joel. Can I ask your PBH? Mine is 87PBH
> I have a 58 Sam and a 60Cheviot.
> Both are really comfortable after I get on. But they seem big when getting
> on or off.
> Did you feel that way with your old bike?
> Sometimes I feel I could use a smaller frame. Maybe I'm getting oldI was
> looking at a 55 Atlantis.
> Jon
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:03 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jon, it's a 50cm. I really wanted an orange Appaloosa but the 50cm
>> is just a better fit for me. My 55cm Bleriot is a tad big for me, that was
>> my excuse for getting a new frame.
>>
>> It will be a simple build with my favorite parts.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:49 PM Jon Dukeman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice. What size is the frame? Looking forward to seeing final build.
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:44 PM Joel  wrote:
>>>


 Newest frame patiently waiting to be built up. Waiting for wheels from
 Peter White, all parts are ready to go, or I should say almost ready to go.
 Framesaved, hanging up in basement. More when it is finished.

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 58cm

[Brendan Willard]

I’d be all over this at 40% of the price... with a free puppy. 

>> Thanks,
>> -Brendan Willard (626)533-9068
>> Owner/Winemaker
>> Phantômé Cellars
phantomecellars.com 

Speaking in Thumbs 

> On Aug 10, 2020, at 7:26 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> That's an "I don't really want to sell it" price. Also known as the "spouse 
> told me I have too many bikes" price 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

[Philip Williamson]

I’m a maximalist. My custom go-many-places road bike has 58mm G-Ones. However, 
45mm tires work the same everywhere I ride. I ride with people on 48mm tires on 
the same terrain, so it’s not just me. It’s like quartz vs marble countertops - 
the quartz is supposedly more durable and stain resistant, but in practice 
marble easily meets the threshold of “very” durable and “very” stain resistant. 
48mm tires are “very” capable.

I do think we aren’t making the math nearly complicated enough, though. Rolling 
comfort depends on volume (cubic liters) and cornering adhesion depends on area 
(square millimeters). Further, we put lower PSI into wider tires, so the pumped 
up volume of the tire goes up at a shallower angle than the 1 bar volume each 
tire width would hold if it was a plastic tube.

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 58cm

[Joe Bernard]

That's an "I don't really want to sell it" price. Also known as the "spouse 
told me I have too many bikes" price 

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[RBW] FS: Bags

[Conway Bennett]

Large Sackville saddlesack in olive in very good used condition.  The only 
noticable wear is some road grime where it sat on the rack sans fenders.  $175

https://photos.app.goo.gl/j53FNLQaJuYW5RqF8

Road Runner Bags Jammer in rust in very good used condition.  Minor fading and 
small stains you'd have to look for but commensurate with use which was slot 
but this has worn VERY well.  $100

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WfTxMFsBpAWU1u898

Small Sackville saddlesack in tan that has been ridden hard and put away wet.  
There is a thumbsize hole wear the brakes wore through the bag and small 
threadbare spot where the bag made contact with the rear tire.  I will include 
waxed canvas I got from swift industries if you want to patch it. $85 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/BgxeDzLT3TuSGrX87

Treetop Designs saddlebag in grey waxed canvas.  This bag has also seen heavy 
use so it has stains and discoloration commensurate with use.  It is 
deceptively big, I put two soccer balls in it for scale.  $40

https://photos.app.goo.gl/QCaHD2X3Az6S3RiLA

All prices are net to me and I will cover up to $10 of USPS shipping CONUS.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

[Meade Anderson]

If only the most dangerous conspiracy theory was what kind of tubes Grant used 
on the Quickbeam...

Oh for the good old days...

Meade in Virginia with humidity so bad it’s like riding thru soup...

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[RBW] Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

[Philip Williamson]

No bad choices there.

I’d go with 1. 
That was my choice before I read the rules. “Yellow! Oh that blue is great, 
too. Both together... oh hey, that’s an option.”

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 58cm

[Jan O.]

Thanks Matthew but I'm only looking for a frame as I already have all 
the parts needed for a complete build.

Kai and Bones, yes I would agree that the asking price is quite high.

Jan
San Francisco, CA


On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 9:45:01 AM UTC-7, Matthew Williams wrote:
>
> Hi Jan, here's a 58cm Hunquapillar in Escalon:
>
>
> https://modesto.craigslist.org/bik/d/escalon-rivendell-hunqapillar-touring/7174112835.html
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Nitto S84 Lugged Seatpost

[maxcr]

Thanks Kyle. Brendan, sending a PM shortly
Max

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[RBW] Re: Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

[Mark Roland]

Pastel Turquoise? I don't think so. Wish it had some actual turquoise in 
there, but I will still vote for #1. The world needs more yellow (and 
turquoise) bicycles. Snappy!


On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 12:13:16 PM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> [image: IMG-4436.PNG][image: IMG-4437.PNG][image: IMG-4439.PNG][image: 
> IMG-4438.PNG][image: IMG-4441.PNG][image: IMG-4442.PNG][image: 
> IMG-4440.PNG]
>
>
> So here's my thoughts each color combo gets a numberand you are only 
> allowed one choice :-)  The first three are a combo, rear half and fork 
> gets one color and main triangle/headtube gets another.
>
> 1. Turquoise/yellow
> 2.Red/grey
> 3. Blue/blue
> 4. Lilac (single color)
>
> Commence!
>
> Alex in Rochester, NY
>
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[RBW] Riv Sleeveless Sweater

[Robert Gardner]

Got my sweater - All I can say is that there are few things that I purchase
that I absolutely know I will be wearing A LOT -- this is one of them.

I know it's sold out, but BOYO is this a nice item (also, put a few Riv
buttons on it bc why not)...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

[Eric Floden]

Pearl night blue

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Nitto S84 Lugged Seatpost

[Kyle Altshuler]

Hi Max

All yours - I think I need something that isn’t as far set back

Buying an S65



> On Aug 10, 2020, at 8:12 PM, maxcr  wrote:
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> If this one doesn’t work for you, I’d be interested in getting in line if it 
> fits my Toyo Atlantis
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Re: [RBW] New Frame

[Jon Dukeman]

Thanks Joel. Can I ask your PBH? Mine is 87PBH
I have a 58 Sam and a 60Cheviot.
Both are really comfortable after I get on. But they seem big when getting
on or off.
Did you feel that way with your old bike?
Sometimes I feel I could use a smaller frame. Maybe I'm getting oldI was
looking at a 55 Atlantis.
Jon


On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:03 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Thanks Jon, it's a 50cm. I really wanted an orange Appaloosa but the 50cm
> is just a better fit for me. My 55cm Bleriot is a tad big for me, that was
> my excuse for getting a new frame.
>
> It will be a simple build with my favorite parts.
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:49 PM Jon Dukeman 
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>> Nice. What size is the frame? Looking forward to seeing final build.
>> Jon
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:44 PM Joel  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Newest frame patiently waiting to be built up. Waiting for wheels from
>>> Peter White, all parts are ready to go, or I should say almost ready to go.
>>> Framesaved, hanging up in basement. More when it is finished.
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[RBW] FS: 56cm Toyo Atlantis

[WETH]

Still looks beautiful! Glad you found it a new home! Saw this too late, or I 
might’ve been tempted to buy it back!
All the best,
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Nitto S84 Lugged Seatpost

[maxcr]

If this one doesn’t work for you, I’d be interested in getting in line if it 
fits my Toyo Atlantis
Max 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

[Paul Richardson]

#3!

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 5:00:58 PM UTC-4 lambbo wrote:

> sorry but #5, the lilac with the grey

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Re: [RBW] New Frame

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Jon, it's a 50cm. I really wanted an orange Appaloosa but the 50cm
is just a better fit for me. My 55cm Bleriot is a tad big for me, that was
my excuse for getting a new frame.

It will be a simple build with my favorite parts.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:49 PM Jon Dukeman 
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> Nice. What size is the frame? Looking forward to seeing final build.
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:44 PM Joel  wrote:
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>>
>>
>> Newest frame patiently waiting to be built up. Waiting for wheels from
>> Peter White, all parts are ready to go, or I should say almost ready to go.
>> Framesaved, hanging up in basement. More when it is finished.
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Re: [RBW] New Frame

[Jon Dukeman]

Nice. What size is the frame? Looking forward to seeing final build.
Jon

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>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

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sorry but #5, the lilac with the grey

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Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Not being a follower of Q, I wouldn’t know … Or is that what I would say if I 
WAS a follower of Q?

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> On Aug 10, 2020, at 11:49 AM, EricP  wrote:
> 
> Isn't the correct response "Pay attention 007?"
> 
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
> 
> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 10:59:21 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> 
> 
> On 8/10/20 11:37 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>> I was riding my Quickbeam yesterday, and it dawned on me that the seat tube 
>> decal might lead some to an incorrect conclusion:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So, just to be clear: I am NOT a follower of “Q” or “Q Anon” or any of those 
>> related conspiracy theories.
>> 
>> Thanks. Just had to get that off my chest.
> 
> Isn't that exactly what you would say if you were "Q" himself?
> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 58cm

[Bones]

Ya I was biting my tongue. Its a popular and hard to find bike in a good 
size, but that price seems way to high considering the build.

Bones

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Joe Bernard]

Indeed it is, somebody is in a mood to unload it quick. If you're anywhere near 
Tahoe, go now!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Now that's a $4500 bike...
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 58cm

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I'm overstepping bounds here, but please don't spend $4500 on this bicycle.

For sanity in bike pricing
-Kai

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Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

[James Warren]

Take Back Q!

> On Aug 10, 2020, at 11:49 AM, EricP  wrote:
> 
> Isn't the correct response "Pay attention 007?"
> 
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
> 
> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 10:59:21 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> 
> 
> On 8/10/20 11:37 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>> I was riding my Quickbeam yesterday, and it dawned on me that the seat tube 
>> decal might lead some to an incorrect conclusion:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So, just to be clear: I am NOT a follower of “Q” or “Q Anon” or any of those 
>> related conspiracy theories.
>> 
>> Thanks. Just had to get that off my chest.
> 
> Isn't that exactly what you would say if you were "Q" himself?
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Palincsar
> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

[Joe Bernard]

#1. I'm big on the bright!

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Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

[EricP]

Isn't the correct response "Pay attention 007?"

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 10:59:21 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
> On 8/10/20 11:37 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
> I was riding my Quickbeam yesterday, and it dawned on me that the seat 
> tube decal might lead some to an incorrect conclusion: 
>
>
> So, just to be clear: I am NOT a follower of “Q” or “Q Anon” or any of 
> those related conspiracy theories.
>
> Thanks. Just had to get that off my chest.
>
>
> Isn't that exactly what you would say if you were "Q" himself?
>
>
> Steve Palincsar
> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

[Robert Tilley]

  I'd go with #2 as well.Robert TilleySan Diego, CA Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device   From: bhim...@gmail.comSent: August 10, 2020 9:23 AMTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: [RBW] Re: Color survey!  Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check  I'd pick the #2 red/grey, t'was me.  But, just out of curiosity, why powder instead of a regular spray paint job?On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 11:13:16 AM UTC-5, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:So here's my thoughts each color combo gets a numberand you are only allowed one choice :-)  The first three are a combo, rear half and fork gets one color and main triangle/headtube gets another.1. Turquoise/yellow2.Red/grey3. Blue/blue4. Lilac (single color)Commence!Alex in Rochester, NY



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[RBW] Re: 31.8 quill stems now available in 0, 30, 50 and 70mm

[James / Analog Cycles]

Hi Ash,  I don't think our website has the ability to add that feature.  
I'll ask our web person though.  In the meantime, if something is outta 
stock, just email us, it might secretly be in stock.  There's just 3 of us, 
so updating the website sometimes gets lost between other tasks.  

-james

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 12:06:36 PM UTC-4, Ash wrote:
>
> James,
>
> Good to know they will be back someday!   Website feature request: it 
> would be nice if I could type my email id on the product page (similar to 
> Riv website) so I can get notified when the product is available for 
> ordering...
>
> Thanks!
> ash
>
> On Monday, 10 August 2020 at 05:48:25 UTC-7 James / Analog Cycles wrote:
>
>> Hi Ash,
>>
>> We will have black Mark's racks as soon as Nitto makes more!  The factory 
>> is maxed for the year, so I don't know when exactly that will be.  Once we 
>> receive them, they usually spend a month at the cerakoter's.
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 6:14:43 PM UTC-4, Ash wrote:
>>>
>>> James,  they look really lovely.  
>>>
>>> Q: when are you bringing back black Mark's rack?  (or F32)
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 9 August 2020 at 12:07:14 UTC-7 Weston Hein wrote:
>>>
 Just wanted to chime in and say that the fit and finish on these stems 
 is phenomenal. I ordered a 30mm to run drops on my Clem and was really 
 impressed with the craftsmanship- the expander wedge snugs easily and 
 there 
 is no play or "rocking" back in forth felt with the stem run at full 
 extension. 

 I really think the design gives you the best of both worlds: clamping 
 force and removable faceplate of threadless along with the ease of height 
 adjustment of a quill.

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

[Steve Palincsar]

Maths may be tricky but "half the area difference" isn't an imaginary 
number.


On 8/10/20 2:20 PM, William deRosset wrote:

Hi, All,

I apologize for comparing a 47-584 to a 2.2" tire vs the 2.1" 
described. Maths is tricky!


47mm to 53-584 is about 1.27X by area, a little more than half the 
area difference between a 23 and a 28-622 tire area.


Best Regards,

Will

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 12:15:21 PM UTC-6, William deRosset wrote:

Dear Steve,

47 to 55-584 is is about  1.37X by area and 1.38X by volume.

Compare to a 23mm to 28-622 tire 1.48X by area and 1.5X by volume.
I definitely notice the difference between a 23 and a 28, and
between a 28 and a 32 (using the same tire casing and adjusting
the tire pressure as appropriate).

You'll sure notice the difference if one is pumping up the tires
for consistent drop. I find for road use that the tire pressure
that works best for handling and riding out of the saddle etc
tends to offset the change in very wide tires (I submit that
47-55mm tires on the road are very wide; your definitions may
vary) and that the difference is not as prounounced above some
threshold (for me it is the 38mm to 42-584 change or the 30mm to
35-622 differences).

Best Regards,

Will
Willliam M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO

On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 1:13:40 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:

On 8/7/20 3:03 PM, Jason Fuller wrote:
> While I should take my own advice when I say this, I think the
> difference between 47c and 2.1" is almost all in one's head


The difference between 47 mm ( "47c" is fingernails screeching
on a
blackboard) and 2.1" is a whopping 5.3mm.   5.3mm is more than
the
difference between a 23mm tire and a 28mm tire; more than the
difference
between a 28mm tire and a 32mm tire; more than the difference
between a
38mm tire and a 42mm tire.  Those are non-trivial differences,
and are
instantly noticeable when riding.   "Almost all in one's
head?"  I doubt
it...


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Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

[William deRosset]

Hi, All,

I apologize for comparing a 47-584 to a 2.2" tire vs the 2.1" described. 
Maths is tricky!

47mm to 53-584 is about 1.27X by area, a little more than half the area 
difference between a 23 and a 28-622 tire area.

Best Regards,

Will

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 12:15:21 PM UTC-6, William deRosset wrote:
>
> Dear Steve,
>
> 47 to 55-584 is is about  1.37X by area and 1.38X by volume. 
>
> Compare to a 23mm to 28-622 tire 1.48X by area and 1.5X by volume. I 
> definitely notice the difference between a 23 and a 28, and between a 28 
> and a 32 (using the same tire casing and adjusting the tire pressure as 
> appropriate). 
>
> You'll sure notice the difference if one is pumping up the tires for 
> consistent drop. I find for road use that the tire pressure that works best 
> for handling and riding out of the saddle etc tends to offset the change in 
> very wide tires (I submit that 47-55mm tires on the road are very wide; 
> your definitions may vary) and that the difference is not as prounounced 
> above some threshold (for me it is the 38mm to 42-584 change or the 30mm to 
> 35-622 differences).
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Will
> Willliam M. deRosset
> Fort Collins, CO
>
> On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 1:13:40 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> On 8/7/20 3:03 PM, Jason Fuller wrote: 
>> > While I should take my own advice when I say this, I think the 
>> > difference between 47c and 2.1" is almost all in one's head 
>>
>>
>> The difference between 47 mm ( "47c" is fingernails screeching on a 
>> blackboard) and 2.1" is a whopping 5.3mm.   5.3mm is more than the 
>> difference between a 23mm tire and a 28mm tire; more than the difference 
>> between a 28mm tire and a 32mm tire; more than the difference between a 
>> 38mm tire and a 42mm tire.  Those are non-trivial differences, and are 
>> instantly noticeable when riding.   "Almost all in one's head?"  I doubt 
>> it... 
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Steve Palincsar 
>> Alexandria, Virginia 
>> USA 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

[William deRosset]

Dear Steve,

47 to 55-584 is is about  1.37X by area and 1.38X by volume. 

Compare to a 23mm to 28-622 tire 1.48X by area and 1.5X by volume. I 
definitely notice the difference between a 23 and a 28, and between a 28 
and a 32 (using the same tire casing and adjusting the tire pressure as 
appropriate). 

You'll sure notice the difference if one is pumping up the tires for 
consistent drop. I find for road use that the tire pressure that works best 
for handling and riding out of the saddle etc tends to offset the change in 
very wide tires (I submit that 47-55mm tires on the road are very wide; 
your definitions may vary) and that the difference is not as prounounced 
above some threshold (for me it is the 38mm to 42-584 change or the 30mm to 
35-622 differences).

Best Regards,

Will
Willliam M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO

On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 1:13:40 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On 8/7/20 3:03 PM, Jason Fuller wrote: 
> > While I should take my own advice when I say this, I think the 
> > difference between 47c and 2.1" is almost all in one's head 
>
>
> The difference between 47 mm ( "47c" is fingernails screeching on a 
> blackboard) and 2.1" is a whopping 5.3mm.   5.3mm is more than the 
> difference between a 23mm tire and a 28mm tire; more than the difference 
> between a 28mm tire and a 32mm tire; more than the difference between a 
> 38mm tire and a 42mm tire.  Those are non-trivial differences, and are 
> instantly noticeable when riding.   "Almost all in one's head?"  I doubt 
> it... 
>
>
> -- 
> Steve Palincsar 
> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

[William deRosset]

Dear David,

The least expensive thing to do is to double your money: fold it in half 
and put it back in your pocket, and you have two lovely bikes there. I'd 
suggest you resist the urge to shuffle bikes just 'cause.

If it is a vote, I'd go with the following process:
1. What bike that you currently own appeals most to you? Does it meet your 
current (not aprirational) uses for the bike?
2. Keep that one. 
3. Sell the other if you must. 
4. If you're curious about other bikes, get the object of interest and ride 
it enough to wear off the new bike glamour. This may take years if it is a 
really cool bike.
5. Iterate.

I do like the Redwood setup a lot. 

Best Regards,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO
On Thursday, August 6, 2020 at 11:59:32 AM UTC-6, David B wrote:
>
> I've had lofty goals to increase riding while working from home - those 
> were unrealistic with young kids - and I'm now leaning towards one 'nice' 
> bike as an all-rounder. I likely won't be doing road-exclusive rides, so 
> don't really need a 'road' bike, hence the sale of my Roadini.
>
> With a Roadini sale, I'll be left with the following:
> Riv Redwood, 650b'd and fendered - 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B_yrQRyl3T6/
> Riv Clem Smith Jr., currently w/ drops - 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-99voyFx5D/
>
> What I'd really like is a bike that can take 2.1" tires and fenders and be 
> setup comfortably with either drops or albatross bars, and with geometry 
> angles somewhere between the Clem (71.5 hta/sta) and Redwood (73 hta/sta).
>
> I've been very attached to the Redwood, however I've been shifting to the 
> 'bikes are just bikes' attitude and am open to passing it along if need be.
> I say 'nice' as I have a lockup train station bike and a folding bike that 
> I'll be keeping.
>
> I see potential options as:
> 1. Sell Redwood, keep Clem and be okay with current setup
> 2. Sell Clem, keep Redwood and be okay with 47mm tires w/ fenders
> 3. Sell Redwood, sell Clem, buy an Appaloosa
> 4. Sell Redwood, sell Clem, buy a Black Mountain Monstercross
> 5. Ignore this desire and keep both bikes
>
> Note - this is not a feeler for selling either bike - if I sell the 
> Redwood it'll not be a bargain sale.
>
> Thoughts, suggestions, other options? Other options would need to fit 
> ~94pbh.
> Thanks,
> David
>

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Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Where Grant Goes, We Go All?

--Eric Norris
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> On Aug 10, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/10/20 11:37 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>> I was riding my Quickbeam yesterday, and it dawned on me that the seat tube 
>> decal might lead some to an incorrect conclusion:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So, just to be clear: I am NOT a follower of “Q” or “Q Anon” or any of those 
>> related conspiracy theories.
>> 
>> Thanks. Just had to get that off my chest.
> 
> Isn't that exactly what you would say if you were "Q" himself?
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Palincsar
> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA
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[RBW] Re: Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

[George Schick]

Well, not to take your post in a different direction, but the reason I 
asked is because I'm slowly growing somewhat skeptical of powder coating 
jobs -* in certain cases*.  I myself own a Surly 1x1, which is a PC'd steel 
frame, that I've had since '04 and I see no problems or issues with it. 
 Having said that though, I've had a high-end aluminum mail box that was 
PC'd and had to be replaced several years ago.  Complaints to the manf. 
yielded a reply suggesting waxing it once a year.  Mailboxes up and down 
the street by the same manf. have similarly deteriorated and had to be 
replaced or re-painted.  I also own a set of aluminum patio furniture that 
began to chip and peel several years ago and worsens as time goes along. 
 Just the other day, I had been resting my somewhat sweaty forearm on one 
of the chairs and when I lifted it, a chunk of the paint came loose, 
sticking to the arm.  The difference between the way PC jobs hold up - *and 
it's a big one!* - versus wet paint has to do with the fact that the metal 
surface has not been primed with PC.  In the case of the mailbox, for 
example, I took off the address plates and completely stripped them down to 
bare metal, sprayed them with a rattle can of etching primer, then applied 
some final coats of rattle can spray enamel.  They've held up just fine 
while the rest of the box deteriorated. I realize that wet spray jobs are 
much more costly, but they generally last a lot longer.   Just sayin'


On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 11:31:45 AM UTC-5, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> Great question, George!
>
> 1.Wet paint would need to be shipped out adding another ~$120 to the price
> 2. Wet paint is typically $400 plus for one color (for anyone that does it 
> often and well)
> 3. Powder is supposedly more durable/more chip-resistant than wet paint.
> 4. We have an excellent local powder coat specialist that is accustomed to 
> bike frames that will do a single color frameset for $150, two color for 
> $225 including a chemical strip AND sandblast prep.
> 5. Powder is a bit more environmentally friendly and less risk for the 
> applicator.
>
> Alex in Rochester, NY
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 58cm

[Matthew Williams]

Hi Jan, here's a 58cm Hunquapillar in Escalon:

https://modesto.craigslist.org/bik/d/escalon-rivendell-hunqapillar-touring/7174112835.html

[image: 00M0M_8UvRSziTwlX_06104w_1200x900.jpg]

On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 12:01:45 AM UTC-7 Jan O. wrote:

> Indeed, they don’t come up for sale very often but I’m interested in the 
> 58cm Hunqapillar for the 700c wheel size and a geometry that will fit me a 
> bit better.
>
> Jan
> San Francisco, CA
>
>
> On Thursday, August 6, 2020 at 9:17:54 AM UTC-7 Abcyclehank wrote:
>
>> 57.5cm or 58cm Bombadil available $2200 complete bike on list. 
>>
>>
>> Don’t appear often. 
>>
>> Ryan Hankinson 
>> West Michigan
>
>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Nitto S84 Lugged Seatpost

[Brendan Willard]

I do.  It's cut down a bit.  I'll check length in a few.

-Brendan Willard
Owner/Winemaker
Phantômé Cellars
phantomecellars.com


On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 9:04 AM Kyle Altshuler 
wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Does anyone have a Nitto S84 Lugged Seatpost that is collecting dust?
>
> Would like to take it off your hands.
>
> Needs to fit a Roadeo frame.
>
> Thank you and all the best
>
> KA
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Matthew Williams]

 

58cm Hunquapillar, touring build

4500

Escalon, CA

https://modesto.craigslist.org/bik/d/escalon-rivendell-hunqapillar-touring/7174112835.html

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On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:11:41 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> This thread is for Rivendells you've found on eBay, CraigsList, and sites 
> beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be interested. This 
> thread isn't for posting ads to your own ad, it's just so people who are 
> searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check this out!" 
> Here are a few, from today's searches:
>
> 61cm Roadini
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>
> 58cm Quickbeam
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>
> 52cm Clementine
>
> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/richardson-rivendell-clementine/7130894748.html
>
> 65cm Redwood
>
> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-redwood/7153843392.html
>

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[RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

[Ian A]

Hiding in plain sight, eh?

IanA Alberta Canada

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[RBW] Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

[Ian A]

I really like the turquoise and blue options. I also love the early green on 
the Surly LHT which I think is the colour on the Sheldon Brown link
 https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/surly-lht.html Using an official Surly 
colour on a Surly seems fitting.

I really appreciate blues, greens and pastel colours in that spectrum and would 
have a hard time deciding. When I had a frame powdercoated, the man asked me 
what colour I wanted and I just said "pick the blue you think suits the frame". 
He had already shown me a metallic purple which I found hideous, so he had an 
idea of my tastes. He chose what I can best describe as a bright pastel blue 
and saved me the hand-wringing and second guessing. 

If you really like all the colours you posted, just take the frame fork to the 
coater and say "this is my short list, choose the one you think is best". Find 
out what you got when you pick it up. It's more exciting than Christmas that 
way.

IanA Alberta Canada

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[RBW] Re: Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

In case people aren't familiar with the Travelers Check frame, it is a 
coupled travel framewhich makes it an easy transition for two-color 
paint...

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[RBW] Re: Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Great question, George!

1.Wet paint would need to be shipped out adding another ~$120 to the price
2. Wet paint is typically $400 plus for one color (for anyone that does it 
often and well)
3. Powder is supposedly more durable/more chip-resistant than wet paint.
4. We have an excellent local powder coat specialist that is accustomed to 
bike frames that will do a single color frameset for $150, two color for 
$225 including a chemical strip AND sandblast prep.
5. Powder is a bit more environmentally friendly and less risk for the 
applicator.

Alex in Rochester, NY

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[RBW] Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

#3
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: Color survey! Would love some feedback, getting powder for a Surly Travelers Check

[George Schick]

I'd pick the #2 red/grey, t'was me.  But, just out of curiosity, why powder 
instead of a regular spray paint job?


On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 11:13:16 AM UTC-5, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> [image: IMG-4436.PNG][image: IMG-4437.PNG][image: IMG-4439.PNG][image: 
> IMG-4438.PNG][image: IMG-4441.PNG][image: IMG-4442.PNG][image: 
> IMG-4440.PNG]
>
>
> So here's my thoughts each color combo gets a numberand you are only 
> allowed one choice :-)  The first three are a combo, rear half and fork 
> gets one color and main triangle/headtube gets another.
>
> 1. Turquoise/yellow
> 2.Red/grey
> 3. Blue/blue
> 4. Lilac (single color)
>
> Commence!
>
> Alex in Rochester, NY
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 31.8 quill stems now available in 0, 30, 50 and 70mm

[Ash]

James,

Good to know they will be back someday!   Website feature request: it would 
be nice if I could type my email id on the product page (similar to Riv 
website) so I can get notified when the product is available for ordering...

Thanks!
ash

On Monday, 10 August 2020 at 05:48:25 UTC-7 James / Analog Cycles wrote:

> Hi Ash,
>
> We will have black Mark's racks as soon as Nitto makes more!  The factory 
> is maxed for the year, so I don't know when exactly that will be.  Once we 
> receive them, they usually spend a month at the cerakoter's.
>
> -James
>
>
> On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 6:14:43 PM UTC-4, Ash wrote:
>>
>> James,  they look really lovely.  
>>
>> Q: when are you bringing back black Mark's rack?  (or F32)
>>
>> On Sunday, 9 August 2020 at 12:07:14 UTC-7 Weston Hein wrote:
>>
>>> Just wanted to chime in and say that the fit and finish on these stems 
>>> is phenomenal. I ordered a 30mm to run drops on my Clem and was really 
>>> impressed with the craftsmanship- the expander wedge snugs easily and there 
>>> is no play or "rocking" back in forth felt with the stem run at full 
>>> extension. 
>>>
>>> I really think the design gives you the best of both worlds: clamping 
>>> force and removable faceplate of threadless along with the ease of height 
>>> adjustment of a quill.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto S84 Lugged Seatpost

[Kyle Altshuler]

Hi guys,

Does anyone have a Nitto S84 Lugged Seatpost that is collecting dust?

Would like to take it off your hands.

Needs to fit a Roadeo frame.

Thank you and all the best

KA

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Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

[Steve Palincsar]

On 8/10/20 11:37 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
I was riding my Quickbeam yesterday, and it dawned on me that the seat 
tube decal might lead some to an incorrect conclusion:



So, just to be clear: I am NOT a follower of “Q” or “Q Anon” or any of 
those related conspiracy theories.


Thanks. Just had to get that off my chest.



Isn't that exactly what you would say if you were "Q" himself?


Steve Palincsar
Alexandria, Virginia
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[RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I was riding my Quickbeam yesterday, and it dawned on me that the seat tube 
decal might lead some to an incorrect conclusion:



So, just to be clear: I am NOT a follower of “Q” or “Q Anon” or any of those 
related conspiracy theories.

Thanks. Just had to get that off my chest.

--Eric Norris
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[RBW] Re: Pondering one 'nice' bike...

[Dave Johnston]

oops forgot the Big Ben pic:

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[RBW] Re: 31.8 quill stems now available in 0, 30, 50 and 70mm

[Drw]

That’s great to know and a nice offer. I’m fine with the rust it has and knew 
it would likely happen with any clear coat. I was mostly curious If cerakote 
has the ability to be clear and rust preventative.

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[RBW] Re: 31.8 quill stems now available in 0, 30, 50 and 70mm

[James / Analog Cycles]

The cerakote is made to minimize rust in harsh environments: exhaust 
systems, parts on boats, sand.  It's thin but very hard.  It has a better 
chance of not rusting than any other clear coat, as it does not require a 
primer.  That said, if it's scratched, that would be a point of rust 
egress.  

I am not saying rust can never happen with these, but I will say we have 
not seen rust on the cerakote stems yet.  The version of the stem that you 
have had a clear coat enamel, which, lacking a primer, was going to 
eventually rust underneath.  

If you would like, send your old stem, and I'll send it with our next batch 
to the cerakoter.  We can do satin black or clear.

Best, James

On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 10:25:20 PM UTC-4, Drw wrote:
>
> Hey James, 
> Could you elaborate on the cerakote. I have one of the previous 2 bolt 
> stems, and love it, but it has developed rust under the coating. Does the 
> cerakote minimize this? I know it’s used on guns and stuff. Curious about 
> differences in the previous finishes and this new version. 

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[RBW] Re: 31.8 quill stems now available in 0, 30, 50 and 70mm

[James / Analog Cycles]

Thank you Kieran!  Glad you like them.

On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 8:28:24 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:
>
> Lovely!
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 8:11:39 AM UTC-7, James / Analog Cycles wrote:
>>
>> [image: DSC08805.JPG]
>> Discord Components now has a range of quill stems that might be of 
>> interest to the group.  In fact, we specifically developed these for 
>> Rivendell riders who wanted to run drop bars.  There are a bunch of great 
>> bars available in 31.8 clamp diameters, and a decreasing number of good 
>> bars in 25.4 or 26mm.  We've found the added stiffness of the larger bar 
>> helps with tracking over rough terrain, feels more solid with a loaded 
>> bike.  Add in steel as the stem material, stiffness is further increased.  
>> 4 bolt faceplate means you can run alt bars or drops, and have plenty of 
>> clamping force. 
>>
>> Made in Massachusetts by Alex Meade of Alex Meade Bikeworks for Discord.  
>> Cerakoted gloss clear or satin black in Mass.  Designed in Vermont by 
>> Discord.  
>>
>> 200mm quill.  22.2 diameter quill.  
>>
>> These are available at a few Riv dealers: Analog Cycles, the Psychic 
>> Derailleur.  Also available at a few Riv friendly but not Riv specific 
>> shops: C+L cycles in Montreal, Crumbworks in Japan.  
>>
>> -James / Discord Components 
>>
>> [image: DSC08830.JPG]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 31.8 quill stems now available in 0, 30, 50 and 70mm

[James / Analog Cycles]

Ted, I'm happy to hear she likes her new fit!  Shorter stems are great for 
short torso riders, and that's about 50% of the population!

-James

On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 7:15:20 PM UTC-4, ted wrote:
>
> My wife's pbh is long for her torso (relative to many folks), and she's 
> prone to neck and shoulder pain if too stretched out on a bike for more 
> than a few miles.
> The other week I finally swapped out the 50mm stem on her Roadini with a 0 
> offset stem I bought from James/Analog a looong time go.
> (I rationalize my inexcusable delinquency by observing her upright bared 
> Sam H serves her fine, so really she doesn't need the Roadini.)
> She came back from the first round the block test with a big smile on her 
> face. The bike finally fits her the way she wants, and we're both much 
> happier.
>
> Thanks James. Real nice stem.
>
>
> On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 8:11:39 AM UTC-7, James / Analog Cycles wrote:
>>
>> [image: DSC08805.JPG]
>> Discord Components now has a range of quill stems that might be of 
>> interest to the group.  In fact, we specifically developed these for 
>> Rivendell riders who wanted to run drop bars.  There are a bunch of great 
>> bars available in 31.8 clamp diameters, and a decreasing number of good 
>> bars in 25.4 or 26mm.  We've found the added stiffness of the larger bar 
>> helps with tracking over rough terrain, feels more solid with a loaded 
>> bike.  Add in steel as the stem material, stiffness is further increased.  
>> 4 bolt faceplate means you can run alt bars or drops, and have plenty of 
>> clamping force. 
>>
>> Made in Massachusetts by Alex Meade of Alex Meade Bikeworks for Discord.  
>> Cerakoted gloss clear or satin black in Mass.  Designed in Vermont by 
>> Discord.  
>>
>> 200mm quill.  22.2 diameter quill.  
>>
>> These are available at a few Riv dealers: Analog Cycles, the Psychic 
>> Derailleur.  Also available at a few Riv friendly but not Riv specific 
>> shops: C+L cycles in Montreal, Crumbworks in Japan.  
>>
>> -James / Discord Components 
>>
>> [image: DSC08830.JPG]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 31.8 quill stems now available in 0, 30, 50 and 70mm

[James / Analog Cycles]

Hi Ash,

We will have black Mark's racks as soon as Nitto makes more!  The factory 
is maxed for the year, so I don't know when exactly that will be.  Once we 
receive them, they usually spend a month at the cerakoter's.

-James

On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 6:14:43 PM UTC-4, Ash wrote:
>
> James,  they look really lovely.  
>
> Q: when are you bringing back black Mark's rack?  (or F32)
>
> On Sunday, 9 August 2020 at 12:07:14 UTC-7 Weston Hein wrote:
>
>> Just wanted to chime in and say that the fit and finish on these stems is 
>> phenomenal. I ordered a 30mm to run drops on my Clem and was really 
>> impressed with the craftsmanship- the expander wedge snugs easily and there 
>> is no play or "rocking" back in forth felt with the stem run at full 
>> extension. 
>>
>> I really think the design gives you the best of both worlds: clamping 
>> force and removable faceplate of threadless along with the ease of height 
>> adjustment of a quill.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 31.8 quill stems now available in 0, 30, 50 and 70mm

[James / Analog Cycles]

Thanks Weston!  We're glad you like your stem!  It took a few years of 
development, so we're glad you think we got the details right!

-james

On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 3:07:14 PM UTC-4, Weston Hein wrote:
>
> Just wanted to chime in and say that the fit and finish on these stems is 
> phenomenal. I ordered a 30mm to run drops on my Clem and was really 
> impressed with the craftsmanship- the expander wedge snugs easily and there 
> is no play or "rocking" back in forth felt with the stem run at full 
> extension. 
>
> I really think the design gives you the best of both worlds: clamping 
> force and removable faceplate of threadless along with the ease of height 
> adjustment of a quill.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Weird handlebar idea

[Eric Daume]

Philip's picture matches my understanding of the OP's image. Somehow I
don't think this will catch on.

Eric

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 11:38 PM Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It sounds like you want to rotate the lever mounts 90 degrees on a
> mustache bar. I’ve never seen this done, but it seems feasible. You might
> want to adjust the mating surface of the lever with a half-round file.
>
> Disclaimer: I didn’t even visit the bike shed to look at the pieces.
> UPDATE (DIS-disclaimer): I put the chickens away and put upright levers on
> a moustache bar. Easy. I don’t see an advantage over a normal moustache
> setup, but it’s possible.
>
> “Pictures or it didn’t happen” as Manny used to say:
> https://www.instagram.com/p/CDsZVYll1UB
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
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