Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[dougP]

Mike:

Was it a "snakebite puncture"?

Looks like a couple of other Atlantis' I've seen in SLO.

DougP

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 11:40:38 AM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Howdy
> here are a few of mine, a side view riding locally, and two from El Paso 
> Mts, with a flat repair at Sheep Springs. My first foot down from the bike 
> to fix the flat was right next to a rattlesnake. I have a habit of finding 
> them that way. 
>
> Mike SLO CA
> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:50:58 AM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> I love the russian submarine green paint of the atlantis and i also love 
>> seeing them in other colors.
>> That gray one is great. I think the dull bronze pieces match wonderfully.
>> Fantastic root beer paint. Maybe my favorite bike color, or brown in 
>> general.
>> I too saw that lilac one hanging in rafters in a garage/workspace post.
>>
>> Here's my 58 cm Toyo. I love it for the curved chainstays. I think I was 
>> emailing with Doug P and he pointed that out to me. Doug, I'm finally 
>> riding it. 
>> 2 x 11 drivetrain. I could probably do without the 11 speed cassette. I 
>> stupidly thought it needed to match the clutch rear derailer, but derailers 
>> aren't indexed.
>> Favorite part: the clearance. Its why I got the bike. I wish it had more 
>> and wheelsize was 650b. 
>> I also really love the Simworks Stealth seatpost. Traded a friend for it. 
>> He is generous.
>>
>> I need to fine tune the cables/housing, put on the dyno lights, the put 
>> up a post. A bag up front too ...
>> So far I like the Bullmoose bars. I think they are very appropriate for 
>> the Atlantis.
>> I just remounted the 29 x 2.2" Maxxis Ikons on it yesterday and I hope 
>> thats it. Tubeless.
>> I was riding it with 42 mm Soma Shikoros and it felt zippy. But it didn't 
>> feel right to not have wider tires on this bike.
>> Maybe a 2"/50cm commuter tire/wheelset for would be nice.
>>
>> -Matthew P
>> San Diego, CA. Kumeyaay Land.
>>
>> [image: IMG_20211013_181057.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 7:20:56 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> That was quick! Looks good Erik. Nice backdrop too 
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM Erik  wrote:
>>>
 Photos from this evening's inaugural ride on a new-to-me 56cm 650b 
 Atlantis.  This replaced my 53cm.  The fit is much, much better but the 
 build is pretty much the same as the previous bike.

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[RBW] Re: FS 2017 Bantam Adventure Bike

[Hugh Smitham]

Sold.

On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 12:28:44 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> *Bantam Adventure Bike*
>
>  
>
> 2017 650b medium adventure bike
>
> Measurements:
>
> Seat Tube C BB to Top of Seat collar ~47cm
>
> Seat tube angle 72º 
>
> Top Tube C Head tube to C Seat Tube ~56cm
>
> Effective To Tube ~56cm
>
> BB height~270mm
>
> Chain Stays C to BB to C to Drop Out~45.5cm
>
> Rear Drop out spacing 135mm
>
> Custom stem 7cm
>
> Custom color matched front rack and detachable pannier mounts w/ light 
> mount.
>
> Dynamo Light internal wire routing.
>
> Fork: Has multiple water bottle mounts.
>
> Main Triangle has water bottle bosses for custom frame bag and or water 
> bottle cages.
>
> Bike comes with Alpine Luddites frame bag.Bag has two compartments with 
> Velcro divider and water port. 
>
>  
>
> Build:
>
> Wheels: DTSwiss XM551 disc rims Rim Width (External): 44 mm Rim Width 
> (Internal): 40 mm
>
> Rear Hub: White Industries M15 anodized red, Front Hub: PD-8 QR 6-Bolt 
> Dynamo Hub, anodized red.
>
> Rotors: Shimano SM-RT86-M front & rear 180mm
>
> Spokes: DTSwiss dbl butted silver, Nipples DTSwiss Brass/silver 
>
> Paul Components Stainless Quick Release Skewers 
>
> Tires: Schwalbe G1 2.8” tubeless. Will include a set of used Rocket Ron’s
>
> Cassette 11 speed Shimano XT CS-M8000 11-46 tooth 
> (11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-32-37-46)
>
> Rear Derailleur: Shimano RD M8000 11 speed XT Long Cage (SGS) 
>
> Chain: Shimano CN-HG701 XT/Ultegra Chain 116 Links, 11 Speed w/Quick Link 
> (Silver)
>
> Brake Levers: Shimano XTR BLM988 (take off a 2014 Santa Cruz Tall Boy)
>
> Shimano SL-M8000 XT Single Shifters Right Only, 11 Speed (Black)
>
> Brake Calipers Shimano BR-M985
>
> Head Set Cane Creek 110 EC34 Headset   1 1/8" (Red)
>
> Shimano BB-MT800 XT HT2 Bottom Bracket *English 68/73mm*
>
> Race Face Aeffect Cinch Crank Arms 2017 170mm x 68/73mm (Black)
>
> Race Face Direct Mount Cinch Narrow Wide Chainring 28 Tooth x Direct Mount 
> (Black)
>
> Handle Jones H-Bar® Butted Loop Aluminum 660mm
>
> Grips: Ergon GC1 Sweptbar BioKork Grips
>
> Seat post: Paul Tall & Handsome Seat post 27.2mm x 360mm (Black)
>
> Salsa Lip Lock Seatpost Clamp 2019
>
>   30.0 mm (Red)
>
> WTB Rocket Race 142 Saddle 2019 Black/Red (CroMo Rails)
>
> Dynamo Light is not included nor is the Paul Handsome post price includes 
> a new Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm which will not be inserted. 
> If you are dead set on the Paul Post we can talk about a price adjustment.
>
> Miles: under 700 total. Drive train maybe a couple hundred. Drive has been 
> freshly cleaned. Bike comes with color matched touch up paint. This bike 
> was used but not abused, therefore it does have paint knicks which have 
> been touched up, which the pictures should show. There are no dents or 
> dings. Buyer pays for shipping. I will personally pack the bike up and ship 
> it via bike flights in the contiguous United States. There is a scrape on 
> the Jones bars which I painted. Upon request I will provide close up 
> pictures of the area if you are a serious buyer. Prior to shipment I will 
> deflate the tires and may remove the tire sealant.
>
>  
>
> The brakes as you can see are hydro, the frame was not designed with the 
> hydro cables in mind, therefore a 3m adhesive zip tie mount has been used. 
> One fell off as you can see in the non-drive side picture. I have a new set 
> arriving from Amazon and will have the missing one replaced. Of course if 
> you buy it you can convert back to a cable actuated disc brake. I 
> personally liked the stopping power of the hydro brakes. 
>
> If I have leaf anything out or you have any questions DM me and I’ll do my 
> best to answer.
>
> Photo Album: https://flic.kr/ps/2mkjA8
>
>  
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
>  
>
> Hugh n LA
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Two Cetma 5-rail front racks

[Michael Ullmer]

Weekend bump with price drops:

1) Newer version 5-rail - $85 shipped CONUS

2)  Older version 5-rail - $70 shipped CONUS

On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 9:18:46 AM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Cross-posted from the i-bob list:
>
> Two Cetma racks for sale that I've been hoarding for a while. I recently 
> picked up a Crust Clydesdale and don't anticipate using these on my 
> commuter anytime soon. These are currently sold out on the Cetma website.
>
> 1) Newer version 5-rail - $90 shipped CONUS
> --This is the current design which has the mounting holes attached to the 
> bottom of the platform and has straight stays. A few nicks here and there. 
> Comes with mounting hardware and two brackets you can use if your 
> handlebars are very high (which mine were). 
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/rgSk5eb5wh2wYdF58
>
> 2) Older version 5-rail - $80 shipped CONUS
> --This is the older design that used p clamps to attach the stays to the 
> rack. It also has bent stays rather than straight. From the side, it looks 
> like it's been bent in slightly so that the back/platform aren't completely 
> at a 90 degree angle. It was like that when I got it, so not sure if it was 
> welded together like that or bent. It didn't affect function for me. Comes 
> with older style Wald mounting hardware and the aforementioned brackets to 
> use if your handlebars are very high. 
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/GP3KLWHTkKJSVVGL8
>
> PM off-list, thanks!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Mike,

I love these images! Your Atlantis is such a great build. I'd really like
to see a .gpx track of your route or any way you can share.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein






On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 11:40 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> Howdy
> here are a few of mine, a side view riding locally, and two from El Paso
> Mts, with a flat repair at Sheep Springs. My first foot down from the bike
> to fix the flat was right next to a rattlesnake. I have a habit of finding
> them that way.
>
> Mike SLO CA
> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:50:58 AM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> I love the russian submarine green paint of the atlantis and i also love
>> seeing them in other colors.
>> That gray one is great. I think the dull bronze pieces match wonderfully.
>> Fantastic root beer paint. Maybe my favorite bike color, or brown in
>> general.
>> I too saw that lilac one hanging in rafters in a garage/workspace post.
>>
>> Here's my 58 cm Toyo. I love it for the curved chainstays. I think I was
>> emailing with Doug P and he pointed that out to me. Doug, I'm finally
>> riding it.
>> 2 x 11 drivetrain. I could probably do without the 11 speed cassette. I
>> stupidly thought it needed to match the clutch rear derailer, but derailers
>> aren't indexed.
>> Favorite part: the clearance. Its why I got the bike. I wish it had more
>> and wheelsize was 650b.
>> I also really love the Simworks Stealth seatpost. Traded a friend for it.
>> He is generous.
>>
>> I need to fine tune the cables/housing, put on the dyno lights, the put
>> up a post. A bag up front too ...
>> So far I like the Bullmoose bars. I think they are very appropriate for
>> the Atlantis.
>> I just remounted the 29 x 2.2" Maxxis Ikons on it yesterday and I hope
>> thats it. Tubeless.
>> I was riding it with 42 mm Soma Shikoros and it felt zippy. But it didn't
>> feel right to not have wider tires on this bike.
>> Maybe a 2"/50cm commuter tire/wheelset for would be nice.
>>
>> -Matthew P
>> San Diego, CA. Kumeyaay Land.
>>
>> [image: IMG_20211013_181057.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 7:20:56 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> That was quick! Looks good Erik. Nice backdrop too
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM Erik  wrote:
>>>
 Photos from this evening's inaugural ride on a new-to-me 56cm 650b
 Atlantis.  This replaced my 53cm.  The fit is much, much better but the
 build is pretty much the same as the previous bike.

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[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA shorts (5) and pants (1) LOT

[Eric Marth]

ALL SOLD

Thank you ✨☮️✨

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 1:56:15 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Guess I was too slow...
>
> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 12:52:08 PM UTC-5 Gary L wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Just PM'd you about #4 and 6.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> gary
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 3:51:39 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 00A.JPG][image: 00B.JPG]
>>>
>>>
>>> Up for sale, five pair of Rivendell MUSA shorts and one pair of MUSA 
>>> pants. All are size medium except for one black pair of shorts which are 
>>> size large. $300 for the lot plus shipping to you from 22401. Payment via 
>>> Venmo or PayPal Friends & Family. 
>>>
>>> More pics are here on google drive. 
>>> 
>>>
>>> 01. Green, size large. Reflectors on the back, all buttons and belt 
>>> intact. Some scuffs as shown from crashing while wearing these. 
>>>
>>> 02. Black, size medium. Reflectors on the back, all buttons and belt 
>>> intact. 
>>>
>>> 03. Blue-gray, size medium. With navy blue gussets. All buttons intact. 
>>> Please note tie-off nylon belt. These are heavier weight nylon that the 
>>> rest of the shorts and pants in the lot. 
>>>
>>> 04. Blue-gray, size medium. With navy blue gussets. All buttons 
>>> intact. Please note tie-off nylon belt. These are heavier weight nylon that 
>>> the rest of the shorts and pants in the lot. 
>>>
>>> 05. Butternut / tan, size medium. With green gussets. Belt is missing! 
>>> Buttons intact. Adjustable leg cuff with velcro closure. 
>>>
>>> 06. Butternut / tan, size medium. With green gussets. Buttons intact. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Help me justify a Clem when I have a Platy...?

[Doug H.]

The right number of bicycles to own is n+1 with n being the number you 
currently own. :-)
Doug

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 2:48:43 PM UTC-4 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> Joe, Ray, and Jason, thank you so much for weighing in. I am going for it, 
> since I'm not sure when I'll next have the opportunity (and if I'm finding 
> that I'm neglecting one of the bikes, I'm sure I can find a good second 
> home!). I think I'll keep my platypus reserved for joy rides  on roads and 
> the clem for errands, occasional off roads. 
>
> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 1:58:46 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> _Leah Peterson enters the chat_
>>
>> I echo what others have said - the Clem and Platy are pretty ideal 
>> companion bikes since the Clem makes a great "utility" bike which frees the 
>> Platy up to not need to accommodate the same cargo, nor be locked up for 
>> those errands etc.  Provided, of course, you would be using bikes for both 
>> errands and for joy rides.  The only thing I'll say is that a $300 Peugeot 
>> mixte would do the same job as a $2000 Clem, more or less, but if you can 
>> afford to have such a nice everyday bike, absolutely do it! Even expensive 
>> bikes are such good value in the grand scheme.  
>>
>> On Thursday, 21 October 2021 at 18:22:15 UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> Sofia,
>>> I bought a Clem frame and have been riding it for a couple 
>>> months, it’s one of the best utility bikes I’ve owned. 
>>> I have 60mm tires on it now and it will easily fit 70s. 
>>>
>>> I lucked into being on the waiting list for a Platypus and recently 
>>> built it up. 
>>> It easily fits 55mm tires. 
>>> I’ve grappled with the the same question. 
>>> I thought I would give the Clem to my niece but she doesn’t think a nice 
>>> bike is justifiable.(crazy, right). 
>>>
>>> So my Clem will be a more heavy duty utility bike to carry a load and 
>>> have big fat tires and the Platypus will be a more elegant lighter build.  
>>> So if you’re looking for a little nudge from the devil on your 
>>> shoulder….d it
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 1:09:20 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Of course! If you'll ride both (yes) and one will be built up for a 
 slightly different mission (probably) then I see no reason why not. In 
 fact 
 I'm currently down to one Riv and it's just not right! 

 Joe Bernard

 On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 12:48:45 PM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> My 50cm olive lime web special Platypus arrived about a week ago and I 
> am in love. Well, the Riv gods must be smiling upon me because now I have 
> the chance to buy a blue 45 Clem. Can I justify owning both? Leah, my 
> #rivsister/#rivmentor, has already kindly weighed in with her thoughts -- 
> and I would love to hear other opinions as well.
>
> -Sofie
>


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[RBW] Re: Help me justify a Clem when I have a Platy...?

[Sofie C]

Joe, Ray, and Jason, thank you so much for weighing in. I am going for it, 
since I'm not sure when I'll next have the opportunity (and if I'm finding 
that I'm neglecting one of the bikes, I'm sure I can find a good second 
home!). I think I'll keep my platypus reserved for joy rides  on roads and 
the clem for errands, occasional off roads. 

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 1:58:46 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> _Leah Peterson enters the chat_
>
> I echo what others have said - the Clem and Platy are pretty ideal 
> companion bikes since the Clem makes a great "utility" bike which frees the 
> Platy up to not need to accommodate the same cargo, nor be locked up for 
> those errands etc.  Provided, of course, you would be using bikes for both 
> errands and for joy rides.  The only thing I'll say is that a $300 Peugeot 
> mixte would do the same job as a $2000 Clem, more or less, but if you can 
> afford to have such a nice everyday bike, absolutely do it! Even expensive 
> bikes are such good value in the grand scheme.  
>
> On Thursday, 21 October 2021 at 18:22:15 UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Sofia,
>> I bought a Clem frame and have been riding it for a couple 
>> months, it’s one of the best utility bikes I’ve owned. 
>> I have 60mm tires on it now and it will easily fit 70s. 
>>
>> I lucked into being on the waiting list for a Platypus and recently built 
>> it up. 
>> It easily fits 55mm tires. 
>> I’ve grappled with the the same question. 
>> I thought I would give the Clem to my niece but she doesn’t think a nice 
>> bike is justifiable.(crazy, right). 
>>
>> So my Clem will be a more heavy duty utility bike to carry a load and 
>> have big fat tires and the Platypus will be a more elegant lighter build.  
>> So if you’re looking for a little nudge from the devil on your 
>> shoulder….d it
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 1:09:20 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Of course! If you'll ride both (yes) and one will be built up for a 
>>> slightly different mission (probably) then I see no reason why not. In fact 
>>> I'm currently down to one Riv and it's just not right! 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 12:48:45 PM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 My 50cm olive lime web special Platypus arrived about a week ago and I 
 am in love. Well, the Riv gods must be smiling upon me because now I have 
 the chance to buy a blue 45 Clem. Can I justify owning both? Leah, my 
 #rivsister/#rivmentor, has already kindly weighed in with her thoughts -- 
 and I would love to hear other opinions as well.

 -Sofie

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS - Sackville Saddlebag with Kangaroo Pouch - Olive

[Huston]

Bag has SOLD.  Thanks for looking.

Huston
Lexington, KY

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 1:23:53 AM UTC-4 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> PM Sent.  
> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 7:12:50 PM UTC-4 Huston wrote:
>
>> For sale is a gently used Sackville saddlebag in olive.  I'm pretty sure 
>> this is the medium SaddleSack, which has evolved into the current 
>> HappiSack.  Includes kangaroo pouch.  No real issues to mention: some wear 
>> on the bottom leather, but the bag has seen limited use.  Pictures are 
>> available here 
>> .
>>   
>> $180.00 plus shipping.
>>
>> Thanks for looking.
>>
>> Huston
>> Lexington, KY
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Mid-80 steel frames that could be Roadini standins

[Karl Wilcox]

A Motobecane would be an excellent stand-in for a Roadini (I ride both). 
 There are Motobecanes with Japanese components; I believe the 1981 Le 
Champion came with Shimano 600 and Vitus steel (equivalent to Reynolds 
531).  Actually, any Reynolds 531 frame on Ebay that was built for 27 inch 
wheels will acommodate 700cx32-35 tires.  I got a 1979 Mercian frameset on 
Ebay for 200.00 dollars two years ago-- it was built for 27 inch wheels, so 
I am able to run 32c tires on it easily.  It actually rides better than my 
Roadini (more compliant if a little unsteady at anything above 40 mph). 
 Ebay is still a good place to shop for frames if you purchase frames that 
have horrible paint jobs!  Then just take it to your local powder coat guy. 
 

On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:45:29 AM UTC-7 Yankeebird wrote:

> I would like a Roadini, but it's going to be a while, and I'm going 
> through some money constraints right now, and I don't mind fixing up 
> something else in the interim. I have a Cheviot right now, and it's my 
> primary main bike for everything. I also have a Surly CC that I built up 
> with an Alfine IGH 8 and Albatross bars, but I keep that at Mom's so when 
> my bro and I visit we have a bike to bang around on to blow off steam.
>
> I would really like a decent smooth steel frame that will take at least a 
> 32-38 tire, and I can build up either with another IGH/albatross or a 
> cassette and drop bars depending on my whims. Something zippier than my 
> Cheviot but not a straight up triathlon bike. 
>
> I'd like to get my hands on a '86 Schwinn Passage (my brother has this 
> bike and it's an incredible) or an early/mid 80's Trek 720. But these 
> things are going for PREMIUM money, almost ridiculous. I value them as 
> $200-300 bikes, but they are listed at $800+ and it boggles my mind. 
>
> Any other comparable frames to the above two I mentioned that I should be 
> looking at? What about Motobecanes? Do they have standard sizing for 
> components or am I going to be banging my head against the wall finding 
> French sized parts? 
>
> Biking is something I enjoy, and I can do basic bike MX and can learn the 
> stuff I don't know, but I am not deep in the weeds of dorkdom when it comes 
> to bikes. I have other much deeper passions. I probably won't build a 
> wheel, but I can replace a BB. I know what I like and what I want when I 
> see it, if I'm pointed in the correct direction by those who know. Hence 
> this query. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Help me justify a Clem when I have a Platy...?

[Jason Fuller]

_Leah Peterson enters the chat_

I echo what others have said - the Clem and Platy are pretty ideal 
companion bikes since the Clem makes a great "utility" bike which frees the 
Platy up to not need to accommodate the same cargo, nor be locked up for 
those errands etc.  Provided, of course, you would be using bikes for both 
errands and for joy rides.  The only thing I'll say is that a $300 Peugeot 
mixte would do the same job as a $2000 Clem, more or less, but if you can 
afford to have such a nice everyday bike, absolutely do it! Even expensive 
bikes are such good value in the grand scheme.  

On Thursday, 21 October 2021 at 18:22:15 UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> Sofia,
> I bought a Clem frame and have been riding it for a couple months, 
> it’s one of the best utility bikes I’ve owned. 
> I have 60mm tires on it now and it will easily fit 70s. 
>
> I lucked into being on the waiting list for a Platypus and recently built 
> it up. 
> It easily fits 55mm tires. 
> I’ve grappled with the the same question. 
> I thought I would give the Clem to my niece but she doesn’t think a nice 
> bike is justifiable.(crazy, right). 
>
> So my Clem will be a more heavy duty utility bike to carry a load and have 
> big fat tires and the Platypus will be a more elegant lighter build.  
> So if you’re looking for a little nudge from the devil on your 
> shoulder….d it
>
> Ray
>
> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 1:09:20 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Of course! If you'll ride both (yes) and one will be built up for a 
>> slightly different mission (probably) then I see no reason why not. In fact 
>> I'm currently down to one Riv and it's just not right! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 12:48:45 PM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My 50cm olive lime web special Platypus arrived about a week ago and I 
>>> am in love. Well, the Riv gods must be smiling upon me because now I have 
>>> the chance to buy a blue 45 Clem. Can I justify owning both? Leah, my 
>>> #rivsister/#rivmentor, has already kindly weighed in with her thoughts -- 
>>> and I would love to hear other opinions as well.
>>>
>>> -Sofie
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA shorts (5) and pants (1) LOT

[Philip Barrett]

Guess I was too slow...

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 12:52:08 PM UTC-5 Gary L wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> Just PM'd you about #4 and 6.
>
> Thanks,
> gary
>
> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 3:51:39 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 00A.JPG][image: 00B.JPG]
>>
>>
>> Up for sale, five pair of Rivendell MUSA shorts and one pair of MUSA 
>> pants. All are size medium except for one black pair of shorts which are 
>> size large. $300 for the lot plus shipping to you from 22401. Payment via 
>> Venmo or PayPal Friends & Family. 
>>
>> More pics are here on google drive. 
>> 
>>
>> 01. Green, size large. Reflectors on the back, all buttons and belt 
>> intact. Some scuffs as shown from crashing while wearing these. 
>>
>> 02. Black, size medium. Reflectors on the back, all buttons and belt 
>> intact. 
>>
>> 03. Blue-gray, size medium. With navy blue gussets. All buttons intact. 
>> Please note tie-off nylon belt. These are heavier weight nylon that the 
>> rest of the shorts and pants in the lot. 
>>
>> 04. Blue-gray, size medium. With navy blue gussets. All buttons 
>> intact. Please note tie-off nylon belt. These are heavier weight nylon that 
>> the rest of the shorts and pants in the lot. 
>>
>> 05. Butternut / tan, size medium. With green gussets. Belt is missing! 
>> Buttons intact. Adjustable leg cuff with velcro closure. 
>>
>> 06. Butternut / tan, size medium. With green gussets. Buttons intact. 
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA shorts (5) and pants (1) LOT

['Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Eric,

Just PM'd you about #4 and 6.

Thanks,
gary

On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 3:51:39 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: 00A.JPG][image: 00B.JPG]
>
>
> Up for sale, five pair of Rivendell MUSA shorts and one pair of MUSA 
> pants. All are size medium except for one black pair of shorts which are 
> size large. $300 for the lot plus shipping to you from 22401. Payment via 
> Venmo or PayPal Friends & Family. 
>
> More pics are here on google drive. 
> 
>
> 01. Green, size large. Reflectors on the back, all buttons and belt 
> intact. Some scuffs as shown from crashing while wearing these. 
>
> 02. Black, size medium. Reflectors on the back, all buttons and belt 
> intact. 
>
> 03. Blue-gray, size medium. With navy blue gussets. All buttons intact. 
> Please note tie-off nylon belt. These are heavier weight nylon that the 
> rest of the shorts and pants in the lot. 
>
> 04. Blue-gray, size medium. With navy blue gussets. All buttons 
> intact. Please note tie-off nylon belt. These are heavier weight nylon that 
> the rest of the shorts and pants in the lot. 
>
> 05. Butternut / tan, size medium. With green gussets. Belt is missing! 
> Buttons intact. Adjustable leg cuff with velcro closure. 
>
> 06. Butternut / tan, size medium. With green gussets. Buttons intact. 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS :: Nitto Drop Handlebars mainly NEW

[David Person]

You could start a Nitto handlebar lending library with that selection of 
bars.

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 8:06:56 AM UTC-7 David Hallerman wrote:

> Hello!
>
> A bunch of Nitto handlebars for sale today, almost all brand new or near 
> new. Most are 26.0mm, with some 25.4mm. All prices include shipping in 
> CONUS (and that’s not inexpensive for box sizes that can hold a handlebar) 
> if you cover the Paypal fee.
>
> All questions quickly answered. No photos today, but if you need, just ask.
>
> Dave, who once again is reminded of Nitto's unique place in the bicycle 
> world
> + + + + + + + +
> Hudson Valley NY
>
> *DG = double-groove*
> *SG = single-groove*
> *Width/Reach/Drop (center-to-center)*
>
>
>1. Nitto M151 – 44/76/128 silver SG 26.0 – Near new  $42 
>2. Nitto M179 STI – 42/80/131 silver DG 26.0 – NEW  $77 
>3. Nitto M190 Euro80 – 42/80/138 silver DG 26.0 – NEW  $65 
>4. Nitto Model 175 Deep Drop – 42 silver 26.0 – Excellent  $33 
>5. Nitto Model 185 Shallow Drop – 42/80/130 silver 26.0 - NEW  $40 
>6. Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop – 46/52 drops/ends silver 26.0 – Near new  
>$52 
>7. Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop – 42/48 drops/ends silver 26.0 – Excellent  
>$44 
>8. Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop – 42/48 drops/ends silver 26.0 – Very good  
>$38 
>9. Nitto Grand Raundoneur - 36/42 drops/ends silver 25.4 – NEW  $47 
>10. Nitto Classic B115 – 45/115/145 silver 25.4 – NEW  $38 
>11. Nitto Classic B115 – 42/115/145 silver 25.4 – NEW  $36 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Mid-80 steel frames that could be Roadini standins

[Bill Lindsay]

The Original Poster was looking for a frameset that would stand in for a 
Rivendell Roadini.  He was looking for recommendations for 1980s bikes that 
would suffice and indicated that the bikes he thought would fit the bill 
should cost $200-$300 complete.  I'm not sure whether the OP found his 
<$300 Roadini complete substitute, but there was a lot of traffic from 
others looking for Roadini-like products without sharing the Original 
Poster's price targets/constraints.  

Velo Orange just offered a sneak peek at their new rando frameset which 
appears to tick all the boxes.  That may be an appealing option for some of 
the participants on this thread.  As a 'bicycle shaped object' it matches 
the shape of a Roadini, just with a little bit shorter chainstays.  It has 
a very svelte looking mono-stay seatstay setup that looks very deliberate 
and sleek, albeit a more modern look.

Here's a link to the V-O blog.  The Velo ORANGE Blog 
(velo-orange.blogspot.com) 

There's no geo-chart or price, and no concrete availability schedule.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA 

On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:45:29 AM UTC-7 Yankeebird wrote:

> I would like a Roadini, but it's going to be a while, and I'm going 
> through some money constraints right now, and I don't mind fixing up 
> something else in the interim. I have a Cheviot right now, and it's my 
> primary main bike for everything. I also have a Surly CC that I built up 
> with an Alfine IGH 8 and Albatross bars, but I keep that at Mom's so when 
> my bro and I visit we have a bike to bang around on to blow off steam.
>
> I would really like a decent smooth steel frame that will take at least a 
> 32-38 tire, and I can build up either with another IGH/albatross or a 
> cassette and drop bars depending on my whims. Something zippier than my 
> Cheviot but not a straight up triathlon bike. 
>
> I'd like to get my hands on a '86 Schwinn Passage (my brother has this 
> bike and it's an incredible) or an early/mid 80's Trek 720. But these 
> things are going for PREMIUM money, almost ridiculous. I value them as 
> $200-300 bikes, but they are listed at $800+ and it boggles my mind. 
>
> Any other comparable frames to the above two I mentioned that I should be 
> looking at? What about Motobecanes? Do they have standard sizing for 
> components or am I going to be banging my head against the wall finding 
> French sized parts? 
>
> Biking is something I enjoy, and I can do basic bike MX and can learn the 
> stuff I don't know, but I am not deep in the weeds of dorkdom when it comes 
> to bikes. I have other much deeper passions. I probably won't build a 
> wheel, but I can replace a BB. I know what I like and what I want when I 
> see it, if I'm pointed in the correct direction by those who know. Hence 
> this query. 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA shorts (5) and pants (1) LOT

[Philip Barrett]

I'm interested in the Mediums (not the butternut) if available & you're 
willing to split?

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 8:13:53 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> PMs sent, Thomas and Matthew. Thanks. 
>
> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 7:05:15 PM UTC-4 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>> If splitting and Thomas takes Large ...
>> I'm a Medium and would be happy to grab #2 and #5
>> Maybe #3 or 4 or 6 as an alternate.
>> Thank you
>> -Matthew
>> San Diego - Kumeyaay land
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 2:48:07 PM UTC-7 Thomas B wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eric,
>>>
>>> Not sure if you'll entertain splitting things up, but I'd like to buy 
>>> the size L shorts. Are they black or green? I couldn't tell from the post.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Thomas
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 12:51:39 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: 00A.JPG][image: 00B.JPG]


 Up for sale, five pair of Rivendell MUSA shorts and one pair of MUSA 
 pants. All are size medium except for one black pair of shorts which are 
 size large. $300 for the lot plus shipping to you from 22401. Payment via 
 Venmo or PayPal Friends & Family. 

 More pics are here on google drive. 
 

 01. Green, size large. Reflectors on the back, all buttons and belt 
 intact. Some scuffs as shown from crashing while wearing these. 

 02. Black, size medium. Reflectors on the back, all buttons and belt 
 intact. 

 03. Blue-gray, size medium. With navy blue gussets. All buttons intact. 
 Please note tie-off nylon belt. These are heavier weight nylon that the 
 rest of the shorts and pants in the lot. 

 04. Blue-gray, size medium. With navy blue gussets. All buttons 
 intact. Please note tie-off nylon belt. These are heavier weight nylon 
 that 
 the rest of the shorts and pants in the lot. 

 05. Butternut / tan, size medium. With green gussets. Belt is missing! 
 Buttons intact. Adjustable leg cuff with velcro closure. 

 06. Butternut / tan, size medium. With green gussets. Buttons intact. 





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[RBW] FS :: Nitto Drop Handlebars mainly NEW

[David Hallerman]

Hello!

A bunch of Nitto handlebars for sale today, almost all brand new or near 
new. Most are 26.0mm, with some 25.4mm. All prices include shipping in 
CONUS (and that’s not inexpensive for box sizes that can hold a 
handlebar) if you cover the Paypal fee.


All questions quickly answered. No photos today, but if you need, just ask.

Dave, who once again is reminded of Nitto's unique place in the bicycle 
world

+ + + + + + + +
Hudson Valley NY

*DG = double-groove**
**SG = single-groove**
**Width/Reach/Drop (center-to-center)*

1. Nitto M151 – 44/76/128 silver SG 26.0 – Near new  $42
2. Nitto M179 STI – 42/80/131 silver DG 26.0 – NEW  $77
3. Nitto M190 Euro80 – 42/80/138 silver DG 26.0 – NEW  $65
4. Nitto Model 175 Deep Drop – 42 silver 26.0 – Excellent  $33
5. Nitto Model 185 Shallow Drop – 42/80/130 silver 26.0 - NEW $40
6. Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop – 46/52 drops/ends silver 26.0 – Near new  $52
7. Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop – 42/48 drops/ends silver 26.0 – Excellent  $44
8. Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop – 42/48 drops/ends silver 26.0 – Very good  $38
9. Nitto Grand Raundoneur - 36/42 drops/ends silver 25.4 – NEW  $47
10. Nitto Classic B115 – 45/115/145 silver 25.4 – NEW  $38
11. Nitto Classic B115 – 42/115/145 silver 25.4 – NEW  $36

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[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA shorts (5) and pants (1) LOT

[Eric Marth]

PMs sent, Thomas and Matthew. Thanks. 

On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 7:05:15 PM UTC-4 Matthew P wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> If splitting and Thomas takes Large ...
> I'm a Medium and would be happy to grab #2 and #5
> Maybe #3 or 4 or 6 as an alternate.
> Thank you
> -Matthew
> San Diego - Kumeyaay land
>
>
> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 2:48:07 PM UTC-7 Thomas B wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Not sure if you'll entertain splitting things up, but I'd like to buy the 
>> size L shorts. Are they black or green? I couldn't tell from the post.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Thomas
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 12:51:39 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 00A.JPG][image: 00B.JPG]
>>>
>>>
>>> Up for sale, five pair of Rivendell MUSA shorts and one pair of MUSA 
>>> pants. All are size medium except for one black pair of shorts which are 
>>> size large. $300 for the lot plus shipping to you from 22401. Payment via 
>>> Venmo or PayPal Friends & Family. 
>>>
>>> More pics are here on google drive. 
>>> 
>>>
>>> 01. Green, size large. Reflectors on the back, all buttons and belt 
>>> intact. Some scuffs as shown from crashing while wearing these. 
>>>
>>> 02. Black, size medium. Reflectors on the back, all buttons and belt 
>>> intact. 
>>>
>>> 03. Blue-gray, size medium. With navy blue gussets. All buttons intact. 
>>> Please note tie-off nylon belt. These are heavier weight nylon that the 
>>> rest of the shorts and pants in the lot. 
>>>
>>> 04. Blue-gray, size medium. With navy blue gussets. All buttons 
>>> intact. Please note tie-off nylon belt. These are heavier weight nylon that 
>>> the rest of the shorts and pants in the lot. 
>>>
>>> 05. Butternut / tan, size medium. With green gussets. Belt is missing! 
>>> Buttons intact. Adjustable leg cuff with velcro closure. 
>>>
>>> 06. Butternut / tan, size medium. With green gussets. Buttons intact. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis evolution?

[Hugh Smitham]

Joe,

Op asked and you delivered. Very succinct Sir.

Hugh n LA

On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 11:09:46 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Short version, others here will know more details:
>
> Original was built in Japan by Toyo, I believe start year was 1999. Later 
> iterations gained braze-ons, lost pointy headtube lugs and were built by 
> Waterford in USA. All of these came with 26" or 700C wheels, all had 
> mostly-flat toptubes. 
>
> There was an update in the final Waterford run which included slightly 
> longer stays and some smaller frames got 650B wheels. 
>
> Production shifted to Taiwan a few years ago to the current version with 
> much longer stays and a sloping toptube. Sizing is different from the 
> Toyo/Waterford bikes. 
>
> Joe Bernard
> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 10:32:35 AM UTC-7 David wrote:
>
>> Super newbie question here, but need to be sure fairly soon here for a 
>> purchase... can you fine folks provide me with a quick, bulleted evolution 
>> of the Atlantis across the three iterations of the frame?  Where it was 
>> made, this one has longer stays, etc.?  I'm sure this onto is on the 
>> website, but sometimes stuff's kind of hidden on there and I often find 
>> myself digging and digging for specific info I need.  Many, many thanks.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Bits and Pieces For Sale

[Hugh Smitham]

>
> *This is the last update: Feel free to make an offer on any parts the 
>> worst that can happen is a no :) If your interested in an item(s) I'll 
>> need 
>> your full shipping** address to calculate shipping costs, that's 
>> what the app requires not just a zip. *
>>
>
> *Nothing I have shipped has cost more than edit $14. The bulk of the 
>> shipping has been in the 4$-$9 range and that's cross country.*
>>
>>>
>>> Here's the link to the photo album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWVG1mp
>>>
>> Rack - Nitto Mini-Campee Front 32F Rack  reduced  $80.00 obo
>>>
>> Greenfield Kickstand $10.00
>>>
>> Ultracycle ATB Seatposts31.6 x 350mm (Black) Reduced $5.00
>>>
>> Kalloy SP-267 UNO Seatpost 25.4mm x 350mm (Black)  $10.00
>>>
>> Salsa 1 1/8 threadless stem clamp 31.8mm/ 110mm length 85º/95º rise 
>>> (New) Reduced $30.00 obo
>>>
>> Sugino 46t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) Reduced $20.00 1 left
>>>
>> Mallet 3 pedals Reduced $30.00
>>>
>>
>>>
> Hugh 
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Steel short+stumpy threadless stems?

[Garth]

I can't help you with a steel product Andrew. Aluminum ones ? Yes. There 
are many, and in a wide variety of colors. Here's Modern Bikes selection of 
31.8 40mm threadless stems  
https://www.modernbike.com/stems+stem-lengthis40-+stem-bar-clamp-diameteris31.8

On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 11:02:49 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Analog seems to be the only ones out there with a steel product, but I'm 
> not looking for so much stack. Does anyone know of a 35-40mm steel mtb 
> threadless stem out there with a 31.8 clamp? 
>
> Thanks
>

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