[RBW] Re: SON Rear Light Brightness?

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

[image: 4FA850B7-0773-4569-98F8-211F58FB6ADC.jpeg]
I realized I’d caught my SON tail light in the photo I took of my bike 
tonight. It’s pretty bright!
On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 9:48:32 AM UTC-7 Sean B. wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I currently have a SONdelux Wide-Body hub with a SON Edelux II headlight 
> and was wanting to get a taillight as well. Does anyone have experience 
> with the SON Rear Light? If so, how bright is it and what system are you 
> using it on? I cant find many reviews online, so thought I'd ask y'all. 
>
> Thanks! 
>

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[RBW] Looking for black long pull Paul levers

[sam . perez . 2002]

Hi all,

Looking for black long pull Paul levers.

Thanks,
Samuel 

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[RBW] Re: Feeler: Trade 58cm(ct) Riv All Rounder(or 61cm Toyo Atlantis) for 58cm Toyo Atlantis

[Dave S]

Hey Matt,

Can you shoot me a few pics of the allrounder?  I have a toyo atlantis that 
I might be persuaded to part with..

Dave


On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 10:13:36 AM UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:

> I've been looking to buy a 58cm Toyo Atlantis for a little while and I am 
> debating the idea of trading what I assume to be a 58 orange All-Rounder 
> for it.  The 58cm measurement came from the center of the bb to the tip of 
> the lug.  It seems to be about 56 center to center on the seat tube. 
>
> Paint is in great shape, but one of the rear fender/rack eyelets has been 
> snapped off.  :(
>
> The 61cm Atlantis is also in pretty good condition, but the paint is not 
> quite as nice, but this one wasn't neutered. 
>
> I am not interested in selling either one.  They are only being sacrificed 
> for something I want more at the moment.  
>
> (If someone likes titanium, I also have a similar sized Litespeed 
> Appalachian or Airborne Carpe Diem bike I would trade for a frameset.)
>
> Best regards,
> Matt B 
> Oswego, IL
>

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Re: [RBW] Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2021

[Ben Mihovk]

I saw boatloads of #content from lots of accounts I follow who were at this. It 
looks like a total blast! Maybe someday…

Ben in Omaha 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2021, at 5:49 PM, mrb  wrote:
> 
> 
> Who else was there?
> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Susie & Gus take a 40 day Vacation

[Justin]

Awesome trip and documentation! I definitely remember seeing that bike at 
Nutmeg. I've been wondering where all those folks were, there were more 
Rivendells on that farm for two days than anywhere else in the world I'd 
wager. I wish I'd taken photos of everyone I saw. It's funny thing feeling 
like you have a pretty unattractive bike to the people you see most when 
riding it but then go to a Nutmeg Nor'easter and experience your bike 
getting a lot of attention. What a trip

On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 5:29:41 PM UTC-4 mrb wrote:

> Awesome video and hello to fellow Nutmeggers!
>
> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 2:26:12 PM UTC-4 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
>> This trip was a blast! Glad Joseph and I made it happen after postponing 
>> a year due to the pandemic. Many thanks to Allison for the drop-off.
>>
>> Stephen, it was a pleasure riding the Nutmeg with you. Hoping to do it 
>> again next year. Holler if you end up in the Chicago area and we can link 
>> up for a ride.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 10:17:16 AM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> This is dope, looks like an awesome trip! I got to ride with Tim last 
>>> week in Connecticut, it was a great time!
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-4 joseph...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUGgOqEqOkc

 took a 40 day vacation with bikes.  I ride a Gus and my friend, Tim, a 
 Susie.  Check out the video above for a recap of events in sequential 
 order.

 The original idea was a skate trip by bicycles but with mediocre at 
 best planning.  We would ride from Seattle to Oakland finding as much dirt 
 and gravel as possible.  
 We left Chicago by car on July 3rd with my wife, 2 dogs, 2 bikes and 
 plenty of camping equipment.  We dropped my bike off in Seattle to get the 
 front hub replaced and drove up to Orcas Island for some camping and 
 skating.  After 10 days of driving my wife dropped Tim & I in Seattle to 
 begin the biking portion.  Yes, my wife dropped us in Seattle and drover 
 herself and the 2 dogs back to Chicago by herself.  She is the best and 
 has 
 already let me know she will not be doing that again anytime soon. 
 Free Range Cycles in Seattle was the starting point for the biking 
 portion because that is where my bike was.  We had a late start and ended 
 up skating under the bridge, Marginal Way, until dark with the Grindline 
 crew.  A guy named Isaac gave us a place to crash on the flat bottom of 
 there indoor vert ramp.  He also gave us a great route to hit skateparks 
 along the way towards Yakima.  

 We zigzagged through Washington hitting skateparks along the way. If 
 you didn't know already the Seattle area has the most skateparks per 
 capita.  The route was not straight forward but the trip was not meant to 
 be. We rode towards Yakima and hung for a day before making our way 
 towards Bingen, WA.
 After skating Bingen Park for a full day we hitchhiked across the 
 Columbia River to get into Hood River, Oregon.  From Hood River we rode to 
 Portland and instead of staying in Portland for 3 days we stayed for 14.  
 After about 8 days our friend finally asked how long we would be sleeping 
 on his floor.  We originally thought we would ride the Oregon Outback but 
 due to heavy fires thought best to just stay and skate Burnside everyday 
 and do some s24o in the Portland area. (We plan on going back and doing 
 the 
 Outback in the early spring time).  We both were not interested in biking 
 the 1 and used a Hertz bailout to rent a van and drive the 1 with our 
 bikes 
 to Oakland.  Saving our legs for lots of day rides and skating through the 
 Oakland area. 
 We stayed in Oakland for about 10 days and skated every single day 
 expect one when we decided to take BART to walnut creek and ride Mt. 
 Diablo.  After sleeping outside on the Mountain we checked out Riv and 
 took 
 BART back to our friends place in Oakland.
 After a good time in Oakland we took the Amtrak back to Chicago on 
 August 12th.
 The big take away... Bring your bike to each town you visit so you can 
 go where you want when you want.  Sometimes, listen to locals.  Lastly, 
 carrying a skateboard while touring adds a lot of extra weight but totally 
 worth it if you are still a 30+ year old skate rat.  

 -Joseph



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[RBW] Re: Susie & Gus take a 40 day Vacation

[mrb]

Awesome video and hello to fellow Nutmeggers!

On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 2:26:12 PM UTC-4 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> This trip was a blast! Glad Joseph and I made it happen after postponing a 
> year due to the pandemic. Many thanks to Allison for the drop-off.
>
> Stephen, it was a pleasure riding the Nutmeg with you. Hoping to do it 
> again next year. Holler if you end up in the Chicago area and we can link 
> up for a ride.
>
> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 10:17:16 AM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:
>
>> This is dope, looks like an awesome trip! I got to ride with Tim last 
>> week in Connecticut, it was a great time!
>>
>> On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-4 joseph...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUGgOqEqOkc
>>>
>>> took a 40 day vacation with bikes.  I ride a Gus and my friend, Tim, a 
>>> Susie.  Check out the video above for a recap of events in sequential order.
>>>
>>> The original idea was a skate trip by bicycles but with mediocre at best 
>>> planning.  We would ride from Seattle to Oakland finding as much dirt and 
>>> gravel as possible.  
>>> We left Chicago by car on July 3rd with my wife, 2 dogs, 2 bikes and 
>>> plenty of camping equipment.  We dropped my bike off in Seattle to get the 
>>> front hub replaced and drove up to Orcas Island for some camping and 
>>> skating.  After 10 days of driving my wife dropped Tim & I in Seattle to 
>>> begin the biking portion.  Yes, my wife dropped us in Seattle and drover 
>>> herself and the 2 dogs back to Chicago by herself.  She is the best and has 
>>> already let me know she will not be doing that again anytime soon. 
>>> Free Range Cycles in Seattle was the starting point for the biking 
>>> portion because that is where my bike was.  We had a late start and ended 
>>> up skating under the bridge, Marginal Way, until dark with the Grindline 
>>> crew.  A guy named Isaac gave us a place to crash on the flat bottom of 
>>> there indoor vert ramp.  He also gave us a great route to hit skateparks 
>>> along the way towards Yakima.  
>>>
>>> We zigzagged through Washington hitting skateparks along the way. If you 
>>> didn't know already the Seattle area has the most skateparks per capita.  
>>> The route was not straight forward but the trip was not meant to be. We 
>>> rode towards Yakima and hung for a day before making our way 
>>> towards Bingen, WA.
>>> After skating Bingen Park for a full day we hitchhiked across the 
>>> Columbia River to get into Hood River, Oregon.  From Hood River we rode to 
>>> Portland and instead of staying in Portland for 3 days we stayed for 14.  
>>> After about 8 days our friend finally asked how long we would be sleeping 
>>> on his floor.  We originally thought we would ride the Oregon Outback but 
>>> due to heavy fires thought best to just stay and skate Burnside everyday 
>>> and do some s24o in the Portland area. (We plan on going back and doing the 
>>> Outback in the early spring time).  We both were not interested in biking 
>>> the 1 and used a Hertz bailout to rent a van and drive the 1 with our bikes 
>>> to Oakland.  Saving our legs for lots of day rides and skating through the 
>>> Oakland area. 
>>> We stayed in Oakland for about 10 days and skated every single day 
>>> expect one when we decided to take BART to walnut creek and ride Mt. 
>>> Diablo.  After sleeping outside on the Mountain we checked out Riv and took 
>>> BART back to our friends place in Oakland.
>>> After a good time in Oakland we took the Amtrak back to Chicago on 
>>> August 12th.
>>> The big take away... Bring your bike to each town you visit so you can 
>>> go where you want when you want.  Sometimes, listen to locals.  Lastly, 
>>> carrying a skateboard while touring adds a lot of extra weight but totally 
>>> worth it if you are still a 30+ year old skate rat.  
>>>
>>> -Joseph
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS Clem and Clementine

[Joe Bernard]

The first gen would be even shorter then the 2017 listed in that link, 
there's at least three versions of this model. I bought a 45 Clem L frame 
from Riv a few years ago and was told the ETT was longer than original 
Clementine. 



On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 1:04:58 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> The 2019+ Clem-L's are notably longer front and rear than the previous 
> generation of Clem's which the Clementine belonged to. They are 2 
> completely different frames that happen to share the same model name. There 
> was no advance that this was going to happen, so for example when Leah got 
> her new one it took her awhile to figure out a new, much shorter stem to 
> use.  
>
> Here's the visual .   
> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5e234be7c6f2c50017f1e4ca,5ad94f910b7e170014f9dc22
> ,
>
> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 12:57:22 PM UTC-4 Pancake wrote:
>
>> Am I right to think the "small" Clementine is the same as a 45cm Clem L?
>> Abe
>>
>> On Friday, 29 October 2021 at 13:29:05 UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>>
>>> Bump, 52 Clem and a small Clementine in the California Bay Area 
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 5:38:53 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Those look new! 
 Doug

 On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 8:14:35 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:

> Where are you located?  Beautiful bikes!
>
> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 4:32:25 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>
>> [image: clementine2.jpg]
>>
>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 4:08:29 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>>
>>> [image: clem1.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 12:07:30 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>>>
 Clem is a medium in blue, and Clementine is a small in black. Both 
 are from the first shipment of full build Clem Smith Jr bikes. They 
 are 
 both in "Like New" condition. The Clem has a brooks saddle and light 
 weight 
 Rene Herse tires. The Clementine is stock.  

 Giving the RBW Owners Bunch first shot.

 $2K each.

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Clem and Clementine

[Joe Bernard]

"The fact that the new generation Clem L is longer makes me wonder why the 
switch to the Tosco from the Bosco handlebar."

My guess is supply. Riv still has Boscos in stock but I imagine getting 
more Nitto bits for completes is a tall order these days. They've just 
introduced a new Taiwan rack in anticipation of Nitto supply issues, too. 

Joe Bernard

On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 1:15:12 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> The fact that the new generation Clem L is longer makes me wonder why the 
> switch to the Tosco from the Bosco handlebar.  
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 30, 2021, at 4:05 PM, Garth  wrote:
>
> 
>
> The 2019+ Clem-L's are notably longer front and rear than the previous 
> generation of Clem's which the Clementine belonged to. They are 2 
> completely different frames that happen to share the same model name. There 
> was no advance that this was going to happen, so for example when Leah got 
> her new one it took her awhile to figure out a new, much shorter stem to 
> use.  
>
> Here's the visual .   
> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5e234be7c6f2c50017f1e4ca,5ad94f910b7e170014f9dc22
> ,
>
> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 12:57:22 PM UTC-4 Pancake wrote:
>
>> Am I right to think the "small" Clementine is the same as a 45cm Clem L?
>> Abe
>>
>> On Friday, 29 October 2021 at 13:29:05 UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>>
>>> Bump, 52 Clem and a small Clementine in the California Bay Area 
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 5:38:53 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Those look new! 
 Doug

 On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 8:14:35 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:

> Where are you located?  Beautiful bikes!
>
> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 4:32:25 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>
>> [image: clementine2.jpg]
>>
>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 4:08:29 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>>
>>> [image: clem1.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 12:07:30 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>>>
 Clem is a medium in blue, and Clementine is a small in black. Both 
 are from the first shipment of full build Clem Smith Jr bikes. They 
 are 
 both in "Like New" condition. The Clem has a brooks saddle and light 
 weight 
 Rene Herse tires. The Clementine is stock.  

 Giving the RBW Owners Bunch first shot.

 $2K each.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Clem and Clementine

[Doug Hansford]

The fact that the new generation Clem L is longer makes me wonder why the 
switch to the Tosco from the Bosco handlebar.  
Doug

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2021, at 4:05 PM, Garth  wrote:
> 
> 
> The 2019+ Clem-L's are notably longer front and rear than the previous 
> generation of Clem's which the Clementine belonged to. They are 2 completely 
> different frames that happen to share the same model name. There was no 
> advance that this was going to happen, so for example when Leah got her new 
> one it took her awhile to figure out a new, much shorter stem to use.  
> 
> Here's the visual .   
> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5e234be7c6f2c50017f1e4ca,5ad94f910b7e170014f9dc22,
> 
>> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 12:57:22 PM UTC-4 Pancake wrote:
>> Am I right to think the "small" Clementine is the same as a 45cm Clem L?
>> Abe
>> 
>> On Friday, 29 October 2021 at 13:29:05 UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>>> Bump, 52 Clem and a small Clementine in the California Bay Area 
>>> 
 On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 5:38:53 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
 Those look new! 
 Doug
 
> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 8:14:35 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:
> Where are you located?  Beautiful bikes!
> 
>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 4:32:25 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 4:08:29 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 12:07:30 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
 Clem is a medium in blue, and Clementine is a small in black. Both are 
 from the first shipment of full build Clem Smith Jr bikes. They are 
 both in "Like New" condition. The Clem has a brooks saddle and light 
 weight Rene Herse tires. The Clementine is stock.  
 
 Giving the RBW Owners Bunch first shot.
 
 $2K each.
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[RBW] Re: FS Clem and Clementine

[Garth]

The 2019+ Clem-L's are notably longer front and rear than the previous 
generation of Clem's which the Clementine belonged to. They are 2 
completely different frames that happen to share the same model name. There 
was no advance that this was going to happen, so for example when Leah got 
her new one it took her awhile to figure out a new, much shorter stem to 
use.  

Here's the visual .   
https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5e234be7c6f2c50017f1e4ca,5ad94f910b7e170014f9dc22,

On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 12:57:22 PM UTC-4 Pancake wrote:

> Am I right to think the "small" Clementine is the same as a 45cm Clem L?
> Abe
>
> On Friday, 29 October 2021 at 13:29:05 UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>
>> Bump, 52 Clem and a small Clementine in the California Bay Area 
>>
>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 5:38:53 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Those look new! 
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 8:14:35 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Where are you located?  Beautiful bikes!

 On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 4:32:25 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:

> [image: clementine2.jpg]
>
> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 4:08:29 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>
>> [image: clem1.jpg]
>>
>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 12:07:30 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>>
>>> Clem is a medium in blue, and Clementine is a small in black. Both 
>>> are from the first shipment of full build Clem Smith Jr bikes. They are 
>>> both in "Like New" condition. The Clem has a brooks saddle and light 
>>> weight 
>>> Rene Herse tires. The Clementine is stock.  
>>>
>>> Giving the RBW Owners Bunch first shot.
>>>
>>> $2K each.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS Clem and Clementine

[Joe Bernard]

It is, and I'd be curious to know the effective toptube - tape measure in a 
straight line from middle of seatpost to middle of headtube - of that 
gorgeous Clementine. They got longer in later editions. 

Joe Bernard

On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 9:57:22 AM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:

> Am I right to think the "small" Clementine is the same as a 45cm Clem L?
> Abe
>
> On Friday, 29 October 2021 at 13:29:05 UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>
>> Bump, 52 Clem and a small Clementine in the California Bay Area 
>>
>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 5:38:53 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Those look new! 
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 8:14:35 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Where are you located?  Beautiful bikes!

 On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 4:32:25 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:

> [image: clementine2.jpg]
>
> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 4:08:29 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>
>> [image: clem1.jpg]
>>
>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 12:07:30 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>>
>>> Clem is a medium in blue, and Clementine is a small in black. Both 
>>> are from the first shipment of full build Clem Smith Jr bikes. They are 
>>> both in "Like New" condition. The Clem has a brooks saddle and light 
>>> weight 
>>> Rene Herse tires. The Clementine is stock.  
>>>
>>> Giving the RBW Owners Bunch first shot.
>>>
>>> $2K each.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FT/FF/FS: size small Riv fishy shirt

[André P]

Shirts been given away locally. Thanks!

On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 10:15:49 PM UTC-7 boru...@gmail.com wrote:

> "i would be glad to send you a high quality almost new medium plain t 
> shirt plus postage for your small t shirt
>
> bo richardson
> bellingham
>
> On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 1:47:33 PM UTC-7 André P wrote:
>
>> In order of preference:
>>
>>- I'll trade for a medium in any color with the same design
>>- You can pick it up for free at my house
>>- I'll mail it to you for the cost of shipping
>>
>> Pretty good condition, never wore it too much. Whoever offers first in 
>> the highest preference category by tomorrow morning-ish it'll be yours.
>>
>> [image: IMG_6035.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_6034.jpeg]
>>
>> -Andre (in Berkeley, CA)
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Susie & Gus take a 40 day Vacation

[Tim Baldwin]

This trip was a blast! Glad Joseph and I made it happen after postponing a 
year due to the pandemic. Many thanks to Allison for the drop-off.

Stephen, it was a pleasure riding the Nutmeg with you. Hoping to do it 
again next year. Holler if you end up in the Chicago area and we can link 
up for a ride.

On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 10:17:16 AM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:

> This is dope, looks like an awesome trip! I got to ride with Tim last week 
> in Connecticut, it was a great time!
>
> On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-4 joseph...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUGgOqEqOkc
>>
>> took a 40 day vacation with bikes.  I ride a Gus and my friend, Tim, a 
>> Susie.  Check out the video above for a recap of events in sequential order.
>>
>> The original idea was a skate trip by bicycles but with mediocre at best 
>> planning.  We would ride from Seattle to Oakland finding as much dirt and 
>> gravel as possible.  
>> We left Chicago by car on July 3rd with my wife, 2 dogs, 2 bikes and 
>> plenty of camping equipment.  We dropped my bike off in Seattle to get the 
>> front hub replaced and drove up to Orcas Island for some camping and 
>> skating.  After 10 days of driving my wife dropped Tim & I in Seattle to 
>> begin the biking portion.  Yes, my wife dropped us in Seattle and drover 
>> herself and the 2 dogs back to Chicago by herself.  She is the best and has 
>> already let me know she will not be doing that again anytime soon. 
>> Free Range Cycles in Seattle was the starting point for the biking 
>> portion because that is where my bike was.  We had a late start and ended 
>> up skating under the bridge, Marginal Way, until dark with the Grindline 
>> crew.  A guy named Isaac gave us a place to crash on the flat bottom of 
>> there indoor vert ramp.  He also gave us a great route to hit skateparks 
>> along the way towards Yakima.  
>>
>> We zigzagged through Washington hitting skateparks along the way. If you 
>> didn't know already the Seattle area has the most skateparks per capita.  
>> The route was not straight forward but the trip was not meant to be. We 
>> rode towards Yakima and hung for a day before making our way 
>> towards Bingen, WA.
>> After skating Bingen Park for a full day we hitchhiked across the 
>> Columbia River to get into Hood River, Oregon.  From Hood River we rode to 
>> Portland and instead of staying in Portland for 3 days we stayed for 14.  
>> After about 8 days our friend finally asked how long we would be sleeping 
>> on his floor.  We originally thought we would ride the Oregon Outback but 
>> due to heavy fires thought best to just stay and skate Burnside everyday 
>> and do some s24o in the Portland area. (We plan on going back and doing the 
>> Outback in the early spring time).  We both were not interested in biking 
>> the 1 and used a Hertz bailout to rent a van and drive the 1 with our bikes 
>> to Oakland.  Saving our legs for lots of day rides and skating through the 
>> Oakland area. 
>> We stayed in Oakland for about 10 days and skated every single day expect 
>> one when we decided to take BART to walnut creek and ride Mt. Diablo.  
>> After sleeping outside on the Mountain we checked out Riv and took BART 
>> back to our friends place in Oakland.
>> After a good time in Oakland we took the Amtrak back to Chicago on August 
>> 12th.
>> The big take away... Bring your bike to each town you visit so you can go 
>> where you want when you want.  Sometimes, listen to locals.  Lastly, 
>> carrying a skateboard while touring adds a lot of extra weight but totally 
>> worth it if you are still a 30+ year old skate rat.  
>>
>> -Joseph
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS Clem and Clementine

[Pancake]

Am I right to think the "small" Clementine is the same as a 45cm Clem L?
Abe

On Friday, 29 October 2021 at 13:29:05 UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:

> Bump, 52 Clem and a small Clementine in the California Bay Area 
>
> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 5:38:53 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Those look new! 
>> Doug
>>
>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 8:14:35 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Where are you located?  Beautiful bikes!
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 4:32:25 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>>>
 [image: clementine2.jpg]

 On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 4:08:29 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:

> [image: clem1.jpg]
>
> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 12:07:30 PM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:
>
>> Clem is a medium in blue, and Clementine is a small in black. Both 
>> are from the first shipment of full build Clem Smith Jr bikes. They are 
>> both in "Like New" condition. The Clem has a brooks saddle and light 
>> weight 
>> Rene Herse tires. The Clementine is stock.  
>>
>> Giving the RBW Owners Bunch first shot.
>>
>> $2K each.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

[Marc Irwin]

I'm 210 on a good day (if I lie).  I had Velocity build wheels for each of 
my Riv's and use 32 spokes on my Hillborne with 35mm tires while my Hunq  
has 36 front and 40 rear with 45mm because it's used for loaded touring.

Marc


On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 8:39:44 AM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey all!
> Hypothetically...does an Atlas wheel set with 32 spokes for a 6'3" 210 
> pound dude make sense if he's on an unloaded Sam and using it as an 
> all-road bike? No singletrack/mountain biking, jumping, etc... Tires would 
> be AT LEAST 40mm, possibly up to 44mm. 
>
> OR...is it 36h or bust if you're a big fellow? 
>
> Thanks,
> Ben in Omaha
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[RBW] Re: Susie & Gus take a 40 day Vacation

[Stephen]

This is dope, looks like an awesome trip! I got to ride with Tim last week 
in Connecticut, it was a great time!

On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-4 joseph...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUGgOqEqOkc
>
> took a 40 day vacation with bikes.  I ride a Gus and my friend, Tim, a 
> Susie.  Check out the video above for a recap of events in sequential order.
>
> The original idea was a skate trip by bicycles but with mediocre at best 
> planning.  We would ride from Seattle to Oakland finding as much dirt and 
> gravel as possible.  
> We left Chicago by car on July 3rd with my wife, 2 dogs, 2 bikes and 
> plenty of camping equipment.  We dropped my bike off in Seattle to get the 
> front hub replaced and drove up to Orcas Island for some camping and 
> skating.  After 10 days of driving my wife dropped Tim & I in Seattle to 
> begin the biking portion.  Yes, my wife dropped us in Seattle and drover 
> herself and the 2 dogs back to Chicago by herself.  She is the best and has 
> already let me know she will not be doing that again anytime soon. 
> Free Range Cycles in Seattle was the starting point for the biking portion 
> because that is where my bike was.  We had a late start and ended up 
> skating under the bridge, Marginal Way, until dark with the Grindline 
> crew.  A guy named Isaac gave us a place to crash on the flat bottom of 
> there indoor vert ramp.  He also gave us a great route to hit skateparks 
> along the way towards Yakima.  
>
> We zigzagged through Washington hitting skateparks along the way. If you 
> didn't know already the Seattle area has the most skateparks per capita.  
> The route was not straight forward but the trip was not meant to be. We 
> rode towards Yakima and hung for a day before making our way 
> towards Bingen, WA.
> After skating Bingen Park for a full day we hitchhiked across the Columbia 
> River to get into Hood River, Oregon.  From Hood River we rode to Portland 
> and instead of staying in Portland for 3 days we stayed for 14.  After 
> about 8 days our friend finally asked how long we would be sleeping on his 
> floor.  We originally thought we would ride the Oregon Outback but due to 
> heavy fires thought best to just stay and skate Burnside everyday and do 
> some s24o in the Portland area. (We plan on going back and doing the 
> Outback in the early spring time).  We both were not interested in biking 
> the 1 and used a Hertz bailout to rent a van and drive the 1 with our bikes 
> to Oakland.  Saving our legs for lots of day rides and skating through the 
> Oakland area. 
> We stayed in Oakland for about 10 days and skated every single day expect 
> one when we decided to take BART to walnut creek and ride Mt. Diablo.  
> After sleeping outside on the Mountain we checked out Riv and took BART 
> back to our friends place in Oakland.
> After a good time in Oakland we took the Amtrak back to Chicago on August 
> 12th.
> The big take away... Bring your bike to each town you visit so you can go 
> where you want when you want.  Sometimes, listen to locals.  Lastly, 
> carrying a skateboard while touring adds a lot of extra weight but totally 
> worth it if you are still a 30+ year old skate rat.  
>
> -Joseph
>
>

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[RBW] Feeler: Trade 58cm(ct) Riv All Rounder(or 61cm Toyo Atlantis) for 58cm Toyo Atlantis

[Matt Beecher]

I've been looking to buy a 58cm Toyo Atlantis for a little while and I am 
debating the idea of trading what I assume to be a 58 orange All-Rounder 
for it.  The 58cm measurement came from the center of the bb to the tip of 
the lug.  It seems to be about 56 center to center on the seat tube. 

Paint is in great shape, but one of the rear fender/rack eyelets has been 
snapped off.  :(

The 61cm Atlantis is also in pretty good condition, but the paint is not 
quite as nice, but this one wasn't neutered. 

I am not interested in selling either one.  They are only being sacrificed 
for something I want more at the moment.  

(If someone likes titanium, I also have a similar sized Litespeed 
Appalachian or Airborne Carpe Diem bike I would trade for a frameset.)

Best regards,
Matt B 
Oswego, IL

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Re: [RBW] Susie & Gus take a 40 day Vacation

['steve bishop' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Maaan! What a great itch to scratch!
Steve

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 at 2:08, Jared Wilson wrote:   After 
seeing a couple photos on Riv's IG I was really hoping we'd eventually get a 
trip report, and boy have you've delivered!
Cheers!
Jared in SLO


On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 8:50:07 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

Man, I love this. Rad.

On Oct 29, 2021, at 08:32, Joseph  wrote:






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUGgOqEqOkc
took a 40 day vacation with bikes.  I ride a Gus and my friend, Tim, a Susie.  
Check out the video above for a recap of events in sequential order.
The original idea was a skate trip by bicycles but with mediocre at best 
planning.  We would ride from Seattle to Oakland finding as much dirt and 
gravel as possible.  We left Chicago by car on July 3rd with my wife, 2 dogs, 2 
bikes and plenty of camping equipment.  We dropped my bike off in Seattle to 
get the front hub replaced and drove up to Orcas Island for some camping and 
skating.  After 10 days of driving my wife dropped Tim & I in Seattle to begin 
the biking portion.  Yes, my wife dropped us in Seattle and drover herself and 
the 2 dogs back to Chicago by herself.  She is the best and has already let me 
know she will not be doing that again anytime soon. Free Range Cycles in 
Seattle was the starting point for the biking portion because that is where my 
bike was.  We had a late start and ended up skating under the bridge, Marginal 
Way, until dark with the Grindline crew.  A guy named Isaac gave us a place to 
crash on the flat bottom of there indoor vert ramp.  He also gave us a great 
route to hit skateparks along the way towards Yakima.  

We zigzagged through Washington hitting skateparks along the way. If you didn't 
know already the Seattle area has the most skateparks per capita.  The route 
was not straight forward but the trip was not meant to be. We rode towards 
Yakima and hung for a day before making our way towards Bingen, WA.
After skating Bingen Park for a full day we hitchhiked across the Columbia 
River to get into Hood River, Oregon.  From Hood River we rode to Portland and 
instead of staying in Portland for 3 days we stayed for 14.  After about 8 days 
our friend finally asked how long we would be sleeping on his floor.  We 
originally thought we would ride the Oregon Outback but due to heavy fires 
thought best to just stay and skate Burnside everyday and do some s24o in the 
Portland area. (We plan on going back and doing the Outback in the early spring 
time).  We both were not interested in biking the 1 and used a Hertz bailout to 
rent a van and drive the 1 with our bikes to Oakland.  Saving our legs for lots 
of day rides and skating through the Oakland area. We stayed in Oakland for 
about 10 days and skated every single day expect one when we decided to take 
BART to walnut creek and ride Mt. Diablo.  After sleeping outside on the 
Mountain we checked out Riv and took BART back to our friends place in 
Oakland.After a good time in Oakland we took the Amtrak back to Chicago on 
August 12th.The big take away... Bring your bike to each town you visit so you 
can go where you want when you want.  Sometimes, listen to locals.  Lastly, 
carrying a skateboard while touring adds a lot of extra weight but totally 
worth it if you are still a 30+ year old skate rat.  
-Joseph




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[RBW] Re: Mid-80 steel frames that could be Roadini standins

[Evan E.]

Yankeebird,

For all I know, you’ve found a bike by now. But in case you haven’t, how 
about a minty Schwinn, built by Panasonic, circa 1984?

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-1984-schwinn-super-sport/7400869490.html

Not my bike. I’m just an enabler.

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