[RBW] WTB-ISO: Nitto Technomic Deluxe 9 cm

[Mike Godwin]

Hi folks

Pardon for the cross-post to the ibob list too.  Here I am again, looking 
for 9 cm Technomic Deluxe. Probably the same one I sold to one of you! The 
continuous transfer of goods between ibobs and ROBs.

Thanks

Mike SLO CA

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[RBW] ISO: Riv 50/52 Step Through (Platypus, Clem L, Cheviot)

[Johnny Alien]

I was planning on taking a shot at a Rosco Platy but now it sounds like 
they are pushed until May. It's still a solid plan and I will wait if need 
be but I am going to throw out a feeler as well. Would prefer just a frame 
as I have all of the parts but could be fine with getting one more complete 
if its the right thing.  I would need a 50 Platy or Cheviot (they came in 
the same sizes right?) or a 52 Clem L. I need something with V brakes so I 
think those are the only step throughs that use them.

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[RBW] Re: FS/T Appaloosa 55

[twowheeledtexan]

Too much? Make an offer. 

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 8:09:15 AM UTC-6 twowheeledtexan wrote:

> Hello Rivsters, I have a catch and release Appaloosa that is being 
> replaced with a Toyo Atlantis I picked up from the group. This is a circa 
> 2017 model, size 55, also picked up from this list. I'm selling F/F/HS and 
> possibly the wheelset. I would say the frame has usual use for a Riv, some 
> chain suck and cable rub and light scratches, but no dents or anything 
> serious and in otherwise fine shape. Wheels are Rich built, 32/36, SP 
> dynamo hub and Shimano rear, Dyad rims. $1300 for the frame, $400 for the 
> wheels, shipping is on you. For reference in the pics, the saddle height is 
> 77cm, and those are the largest Towel Rack bars, 50mm Soma Cazaderos on the 
> rims.
>
> I could be enticed to trade or buy outright for an AHH with an effective 
> top tube between 56-58cm, which would be a size between 54-58 in the 
> different models I believe. Frame or complete. 
>
> Thanks for looking and happy riding!
> Aaron in Indiana (who thought spring was almost here until it snowed 4" 
> yesterday)
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Clem L complete

[Friend]

Got any more pictures?

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 4:03:53 PM UTC-4 zac.te...@gmail.com wrote:

> pm sent
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 4:07:11 PM UTC-7 Marc R wrote:
>
>> Purchased new (2016) from RBW, ridden around town only.
>> I bought a larger size so am selling this one.
>>
>> Standard Riv build, mustard color, with:
>> Rene Hearse Switchback Hill tires
>> SKS fenders
>> Wald Clem Bosco Basket
>> $1600
>>
>> prefer local (NorCal) sale
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Marc
>> Davis, CA
>>
>> [image: IMG_0253.jpeg]
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki, first ride

['JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks Matt. I had mentioned to Johnny that if he was ever going to sell it I 
wanted it. He remembered and was so overly fair.

Joel

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On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 4:21 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:

> That's a nice bike and build. The Saluki is one of my favorite bikes, if not 
> the favorite. Congrats on the acquisition.
>
> Best regards,
> Matt in Oswego, IL
> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:25:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> [94A4BDD3-7098-4E68-A063-89DFAD04AC39.jpeg]Today the weather was perfect, I 
>> had to stop to take off my windbreaker and I probably could have worn 
>> shorts. So the bike is very smooth, I don’t remember how my too big 56cm 
>> rode anymore but this 54 is pretty much perfect. Outfitted with everything 
>> from my 55cm Bleriot except the brakes. I was quite surprised by the ride as 
>> if memory serves it felt different than the Bleriot. Very stable (more 
>> surefooted than the Bleriot), no surprises in handling. The one difference 
>> is that when I put the seat on this (which was always attached to the 
>> seatpost from the Bleriot the setback is a bit more). I always ride with my 
>> seat set levels as this just works for me.I really have no idea why it felt 
>> so good but it had me questioning the Hillborne which always felt more sure 
>> footed than the Bleriot, but I will ride that after awhile on this one and 
>> see. After riding the Hillborne on rollers all winter the muscles that were 
>> not used are letting themselves be known. I am very pleased that I bought 
>> this frame, just lovely in every way.
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Re: [RBW] Saluki, first ride

['JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Johnny, it is working great. At first I was a bit concerned because the steerer 
tube was cut shorter than my other bikes but no problem, bars are high enough 
for sure. You did me right, thank you.

Joel

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On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 4:44 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:

> I'm super pumped to see this working out for you!! Great build!
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 4:24:47 PM UTC-4 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Great News. Nice photo
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 1:25 PM 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> [94A4BDD3-7098-4E68-A063-89DFAD04AC39.jpeg]Today the weather was perfect, I 
>>> had to stop to take off my windbreaker and I probably could have worn 
>>> shorts. So the bike is very smooth, I don’t remember how my too big 56cm 
>>> rode anymore but this 54 is pretty much perfect. Outfitted with everything 
>>> from my 55cm Bleriot except the brakes. I was quite surprised by the ride 
>>> as if memory serves it felt different than the Bleriot. Very stable (more 
>>> surefooted than the Bleriot), no surprises in handling. The one difference 
>>> is that when I put the seat on this (which was always attached to the 
>>> seatpost from the Bleriot the setback is a bit more). I always ride with my 
>>> seat set levels as this just works for me.I really have no idea why it felt 
>>> so good but it had me questioning the Hillborne which always felt more sure 
>>> footed than the Bleriot, but I will ride that after awhile on this one and 
>>> see. After riding the Hillborne on rollers all winter the muscles that were 
>>> not used are letting themselves be known. I am very pleased that I bought 
>>> this frame, just lovely in every way.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki, first ride

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Thanks John.

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On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 5:02 PM, John Bokman  wrote:

> Sweet looking ride you got there. Congratulations.
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:25:31 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>
>> [94A4BDD3-7098-4E68-A063-89DFAD04AC39.jpeg]Today the weather was perfect, I 
>> had to stop to take off my windbreaker and I probably could have worn 
>> shorts. So the bike is very smooth, I don’t remember how my too big 56cm 
>> rode anymore but this 54 is pretty much perfect. Outfitted with everything 
>> from my 55cm Bleriot except the brakes. I was quite surprised by the ride as 
>> if memory serves it felt different than the Bleriot. Very stable (more 
>> surefooted than the Bleriot), no surprises in handling. The one difference 
>> is that when I put the seat on this (which was always attached to the 
>> seatpost from the Bleriot the setback is a bit more). I always ride with my 
>> seat set levels as this just works for me.I really have no idea why it felt 
>> so good but it had me questioning the Hillborne which always felt more sure 
>> footed than the Bleriot, but I will ride that after awhile on this one and 
>> see. After riding the Hillborne on rollers all winter the muscles that were 
>> not used are letting themselves be known. I am very pleased that I bought 
>> this frame, just lovely in every way.
>
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[RBW] Re: Saluki, first ride

[John Bokman]

Sweet looking ride you got there. Congratulations.

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:25:31 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:

> [image: 94A4BDD3-7098-4E68-A063-89DFAD04AC39.jpeg]Today the weather was 
> perfect, I had to stop to take off my windbreaker and I probably could have 
> worn shorts.  So the bike is very smooth, I don’t remember how my too big 
> 56cm rode anymore but this 54 is pretty much perfect.  Outfitted with 
> everything from my 55cm Bleriot except the brakes.  I was quite surprised 
> by the ride as if memory serves it felt different than the Bleriot.  Very 
> stable (more surefooted than the Bleriot), no surprises in handling.  The 
> one difference is that when I put the seat on this (which was always 
> attached to the seatpost from the Bleriot the setback is a bit more).  I 
> always ride with my seat set levels as this just works for me.I really have 
> no idea why it felt so good but it had me questioning the Hillborne which 
> always felt more sure footed than the Bleriot, but I will ride that after 
> awhile on this one and see. After riding the Hillborne on rollers all 
> winter the muscles that were not used are letting themselves be known.  I 
> am very pleased that I bought this frame, just lovely in every way. 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Flat Pedal Users: Favorite size/shape?

[John Bokman]

Yeah, they are pricey. Much more than a little marine grease, which is what 
I used to slather on the spindles of my VP Vice today. Turns out, when I 
look at all the pedals out there, mine are hard to beat, considering they 
are every day "just ride" pedals. About 100x100 square, not too heavy, 
plenty grippy, nice and thin, spin well enough (although admittedly not 
smooth), and inexpensive. I think I paid $45 for them many years ago. I 
can't really complain; they have been a good value, all considered.

(Thanks to Garth for reminding me to just throw some grease in them again.)



On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 11:55:53 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Man those are pricey but I love that they are about the same weight as 
> composite pedals, they look great and are made in America. I am going to 
> give those a shot sometime soon.
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:32:38 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Review of the Yoshimura Chilao pedals on The Radavist.
>>
>>
>> https://theradavist.com/2021/10/i-cant-get-enough-of-these-yoshimura-chilao-mtb-pedals/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:34:48 PM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:
>>
>>> Indeed, those look excellent. Definitely worth a hard look. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 6:00:52 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>>
 Does the Pedaling Innovations rebuild kit work for VP Vice pedals? It 
 looks like the axle and bearings are the same.

 Anyone know?

 Also a nice choice for a high-end pedal are these bad boys, made in the 
 USA:
 https://yoshimuracycling.com/products/chilao-performance-bicycle-pedal

 Michael

 On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:08:29 PM UTC-4 Joe in the Pay Area 
 wrote:

> Black Ops Torqlite UL platform pedals, now almost impossible to find.  
> And why does my reply have just a half line of height? Can baely see what 
> I 
> type!
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 9:38:42 AM UTC-7 George Rosselle wrote:
>
>> I have the Spank Oozy pedals on my Chameleon and like them a lot, 
>> metal, low profile, and availabe bushings that are easy to replace. Too 
>> bad 
>> you don't like composites, I also have Race Face Chesters on a couple 
>> bikes 
>> and find them to be just as good and much less expensive.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-4 Paul Choi wrote:
>>
>>> I like the Blue Lug MKS XC-III pedals. Not too big and they hold my 
>>> 8.5 shoes well. They look like the bear trap pedals that I had on my 
>>> Redline BMX bike back in the early 80's. I got mine from Hope Cyclery. 
>>> They 
>>> have them in six colors. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:39:05 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for all the good suggestions, everyone. I'm Narrowing down 
 the parameters, I think. So far, what I think I want:

 1. Metal pedal body, not composite.
 2. Rebuildable pedal (can rebuild parts be had?).
 3. At least as long as the Vice (106mm, I think).
 4. At least 100mm wide.

 Does anyone have experience with the Xpedo Spry? it looks to tick 
 some boxes.

 https://xpedo.com/product/pedals/flats/spry/


 On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:18:37 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:

> Yes, I did grease theses once already.  Grease is inexpensive, so 
> of course, I could regrease them.  As for the Catalyst,  I don't want 
> to go 
> there for a few reasons:
> 1. I already experience toe overlap (fenders on my 700c Sam) at 
> times, and the length of the pedal is way longer than the Vice.
> 2. I don't like riding with my foot so far forward of the axle. In 
> other words, I'm not an arch-pedaler, which is what the Catalyst 
> calls for, 
> unless I'm mistaken.
> 3. I'm not convinced I need something that long. Again, how long 
> is long enough?
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 1:17:51 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>> Do you add grease to your Vice pedals John ?  I always add grease 
>> to any pedal, open them up, slather some grease on the axle and 
>> slide the 
>> body back on the excess oozes out the axle side. I have 2 pairs of 
>> Vice and 
>> they've been flawless. Before these I did this with Wellgo MG-1's.  
>>
>> I wear size 14 shoes and the Vice size and shape works great with 
>> the shoes I wear. I pedal near midfoot, not totally. A longer 
>> platform 
>> would not necessarily be any better. That's what always struck me 
>> about 
>> Pedal Innovations. I already pedalled mid foot, my feet were already 
>> "supported"...(as if any other pedal doesn't offer support !).  What 
>> they 
>> 

[RBW] Re: FS: Bikepacking Bags - Riv style

[Collin A]

The Zeitgesit is on it's way out, just the basketbag remaining.

*Porcelain Rocket meanwhile 137 basketpacking bag*, coyote color - 
Waterproof Made in Canada basket bag that perfectly fits a wald 137. It has 
a bit of wear on the bottom of the bag and back, but the material is very 
abrasion proof so the photos make it worse that what it looks like. Its 
currently made by Rockgeist, but appears out of stock. *Asking $70 shipped.*

Collin in Sactown


On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:01:28 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> Doing a bump and a price drop:
>
> *Swift Zeitgeist Campandgoslow Edition* - Used for more 
> beach/Picnicpacking trips where it either contained the beer, the chairs, 
> or the lunches. It was a limited edition run with the orange cordura and 
> the pretty cool patch and the rattlesnake trim, and MUSA (which apparently 
> is no longer the case with swift industries :/).* Asking $180 + shipping*
>
> *Porcelain Rocket meanwhile 137 basketpacking bag*, coyote color - 
> Waterproof Made in Canada basket bag that perfectly fits a wald 137. It has 
> a bit of wear on the bottom of the bag and back, but the material is very 
> abrasion proof so the photos make it worse that what it looks like. Its 
> currently made by Rockgeist, but appears out of stock. *Asking $70 
> shipped.*
>
> Collin, recovering from a broken rib so finally following up on this post, 
> in Sacramento
>
> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 7:38:57 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Alright, the mini-panniers are sold, the other two bags are still up for 
>> grabs:
>>
>> *Swift Zeitgeist Campandgoslow Edition* - Used for more 
>> beach/Picnicpacking trips where it either contained the beer, the chairs, 
>> or the lunches. It was a limited edition run with the orange cordura and 
>> the pretty cool patch and the rattlesnake trim, and MUSA (which apparently 
>> is no longer the case with swift industries :/).* Asking $200 + shipping*
>>
>> *Porcelain Rocket meanwhile 137 basketpacking bag*, coyote color - 
>> Waterproof Made in Canada basket bag that perfectly fits a wald 137. It has 
>> a bit of wear on the bottom of the bag and back, but the material is very 
>> abrasion proof so the photos make it worse that what it looks like. Its 
>> currently made by Rockgeist, but appears out of stock. *Asking $80 
>> shipped.*
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 5:14:42 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm continuing a purge of my storage closet, and have some camping bags 
>>> that I haven't used in a bit that could use a new home as well. 
>>>
>>> Photos here (along with the hilibike parts on my other post):
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xa3dF6DW7xUBm9Rj9
>>>
>>> *Framework Design Mini Panniers, navy* - These are a lovely and soft 
>>> cotton/waxed canvas pair of mini panniers from a bag maker in Australia. 
>>> Used for a couple S240s, but the packing setup has changed. They look great 
>>> in person and would complement a nice Rivendell frame exquisitely well. It 
>>> mounts to any 3-pack-style mounts on frames, forks, or racks. *Asking 
>>> $100 + shipping*
>>>
>>> *Swift Zeitgeist Campandgoslow Edition* - Used for more 
>>> beach/Picnicpacking trips where it either contained the beer, the chairs, 
>>> or the lunches. It was a limited edition run with the orange cordura and 
>>> the pretty cool patch and the rattlesnake trim, and MUSA (which apparently 
>>> is no longer the case with swift industries :/).* Asking $200 + 
>>> shipping*
>>>
>>> *Porcelain Rocket meanwhile 137 basketpacking bag*, coyote color - 
>>> Waterproof Made in Canada basket bag that perfectly fits a wald 137. It has 
>>> a bit of wear on the bottom of the bag and back, but the material is very 
>>> abrasion proof so the photos make it worse that what it looks like. Its 
>>> currently made by Rockgeist, but appears out of stock. *Asking $80 
>>> shipped.*
>>>
>>> Cheers all,
>>> Collin in Sactown
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Saluki, first ride

[Johnny Alien]

I'm super pumped to see this working out for you!! Great build!

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 4:24:47 PM UTC-4 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:

> Great News. Nice photo
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 1:25 PM 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> [image: 94A4BDD3-7098-4E68-A063-89DFAD04AC39.jpeg]Today the weather was 
>> perfect, I had to stop to take off my windbreaker and I probably could have 
>> worn shorts.  So the bike is very smooth, I don’t remember how my too big 
>> 56cm rode anymore but this 54 is pretty much perfect.  Outfitted with 
>> everything from my 55cm Bleriot except the brakes.  I was quite surprised 
>> by the ride as if memory serves it felt different than the Bleriot.  Very 
>> stable (more surefooted than the Bleriot), no surprises in handling.  The 
>> one difference is that when I put the seat on this (which was always 
>> attached to the seatpost from the Bleriot the setback is a bit more).  I 
>> always ride with my seat set levels as this just works for me.I really have 
>> no idea why it felt so good but it had me questioning the Hillborne which 
>> always felt more sure footed than the Bleriot, but I will ride that after 
>> awhile on this one and see. After riding the Hillborne on rollers all 
>> winter the muscles that were not used are letting themselves be known.  I 
>> am very pleased that I bought this frame, just lovely in every way. 
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Saluki, first ride

[Matt Beecher]

That's a nice bike and build. The Saluki is one of my favorite bikes, if 
not *the* favorite.  Congrats on the acquisition.

Best regards,
Matt in Oswego, IL
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:25:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> [image: 94A4BDD3-7098-4E68-A063-89DFAD04AC39.jpeg]Today the weather was 
> perfect, I had to stop to take off my windbreaker and I probably could have 
> worn shorts.  So the bike is very smooth, I don’t remember how my too big 
> 56cm rode anymore but this 54 is pretty much perfect.  Outfitted with 
> everything from my 55cm Bleriot except the brakes.  I was quite surprised 
> by the ride as if memory serves it felt different than the Bleriot.  Very 
> stable (more surefooted than the Bleriot), no surprises in handling.  The 
> one difference is that when I put the seat on this (which was always 
> attached to the seatpost from the Bleriot the setback is a bit more).  I 
> always ride with my seat set levels as this just works for me.I really have 
> no idea why it felt so good but it had me questioning the Hillborne which 
> always felt more sure footed than the Bleriot, but I will ride that after 
> awhile on this one and see. After riding the Hillborne on rollers all 
> winter the muscles that were not used are letting themselves be known.  I 
> am very pleased that I bought this frame, just lovely in every way. 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Clem L complete

[Zac Terrones]

pm sent

On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 4:07:11 PM UTC-7 Marc R wrote:

> Purchased new (2016) from RBW, ridden around town only.
> I bought a larger size so am selling this one.
>
> Standard Riv build, mustard color, with:
> Rene Hearse Switchback Hill tires
> SKS fenders
> Wald Clem Bosco Basket
> $1600
>
> prefer local (NorCal) sale
>
> Cheers,
> Marc
> Davis, CA
>
> [image: IMG_0253.jpeg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Flat Pedal Users: Favorite size/shape?

[Johnny Alien]

Man those are pricey but I love that they are about the same weight as 
composite pedals, they look great and are made in America. I am going to 
give those a shot sometime soon.

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:32:38 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Review of the Yoshimura Chilao pedals on The Radavist.
>
>
> https://theradavist.com/2021/10/i-cant-get-enough-of-these-yoshimura-chilao-mtb-pedals/
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:34:48 PM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> Indeed, those look excellent. Definitely worth a hard look. 
>>
>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 6:00:52 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>
>>> Does the Pedaling Innovations rebuild kit work for VP Vice pedals? It 
>>> looks like the axle and bearings are the same.
>>>
>>> Anyone know?
>>>
>>> Also a nice choice for a high-end pedal are these bad boys, made in the 
>>> USA:
>>> https://yoshimuracycling.com/products/chilao-performance-bicycle-pedal
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:08:29 PM UTC-4 Joe in the Pay Area 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Black Ops Torqlite UL platform pedals, now almost impossible to find.  
 And why does my reply have just a half line of height? Can baely see what 
 I 
 type!

 On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 9:38:42 AM UTC-7 George Rosselle wrote:

> I have the Spank Oozy pedals on my Chameleon and like them a lot, 
> metal, low profile, and availabe bushings that are easy to replace. Too 
> bad 
> you don't like composites, I also have Race Face Chesters on a couple 
> bikes 
> and find them to be just as good and much less expensive.
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-4 Paul Choi wrote:
>
>> I like the Blue Lug MKS XC-III pedals. Not too big and they hold my 
>> 8.5 shoes well. They look like the bear trap pedals that I had on my 
>> Redline BMX bike back in the early 80's. I got mine from Hope Cyclery. 
>> They 
>> have them in six colors. 
>>
>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:39:05 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for all the good suggestions, everyone. I'm Narrowing down 
>>> the parameters, I think. So far, what I think I want:
>>>
>>> 1. Metal pedal body, not composite.
>>> 2. Rebuildable pedal (can rebuild parts be had?).
>>> 3. At least as long as the Vice (106mm, I think).
>>> 4. At least 100mm wide.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have experience with the Xpedo Spry? it looks to tick 
>>> some boxes.
>>>
>>> https://xpedo.com/product/pedals/flats/spry/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:18:37 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:
>>>
 Yes, I did grease theses once already.  Grease is inexpensive, so 
 of course, I could regrease them.  As for the Catalyst,  I don't want 
 to go 
 there for a few reasons:
 1. I already experience toe overlap (fenders on my 700c Sam) at 
 times, and the length of the pedal is way longer than the Vice.
 2. I don't like riding with my foot so far forward of the axle. In 
 other words, I'm not an arch-pedaler, which is what the Catalyst calls 
 for, 
 unless I'm mistaken.
 3. I'm not convinced I need something that long. Again, how long is 
 long enough?

 On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 1:17:51 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> Do you add grease to your Vice pedals John ?  I always add grease 
> to any pedal, open them up, slather some grease on the axle and slide 
> the 
> body back on the excess oozes out the axle side. I have 2 pairs of 
> Vice and 
> they've been flawless. Before these I did this with Wellgo MG-1's.  
>
> I wear size 14 shoes and the Vice size and shape works great with 
> the shoes I wear. I pedal near midfoot, not totally. A longer 
> platform 
> would not necessarily be any better. That's what always struck me 
> about 
> Pedal Innovations. I already pedalled mid foot, my feet were already 
> "supported"...(as if any other pedal doesn't offer support !).  What 
> they 
> neglect in their "science", is using *short cranks along with a 
> midfoot stroke*. With 185mm cranks it didn't work for me, too 
> much of a reach despite a lowered saddle, awkward.  With 170 . a 
> little 
> better but still ... nope. Then I tried 152/150's.. ahhh .. 
> swet spot of both midoot power and pedal speed.  As the French 
> say back 
> in the day  soo-play ... soo-play ! 
>
> On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 9:24:43 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>> I've been riding VP Vice pedals for a few years now. It took a 
>> long while (aprx. a year) to get used to riding flats, coming from 
>> Speedplay Frogs. 

[RBW] Re: Flat Pedal Users: Favorite size/shape?

[David Person]

Review of the Yoshimura Chilao pedals on The Radavist.

https://theradavist.com/2021/10/i-cant-get-enough-of-these-yoshimura-chilao-mtb-pedals/



On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:34:48 PM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:

> Indeed, those look excellent. Definitely worth a hard look. 
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 6:00:52 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>> Does the Pedaling Innovations rebuild kit work for VP Vice pedals? It 
>> looks like the axle and bearings are the same.
>>
>> Anyone know?
>>
>> Also a nice choice for a high-end pedal are these bad boys, made in the 
>> USA:
>> https://yoshimuracycling.com/products/chilao-performance-bicycle-pedal
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:08:29 PM UTC-4 Joe in the Pay Area wrote:
>>
>>> Black Ops Torqlite UL platform pedals, now almost impossible to find.  
>>> And why does my reply have just a half line of height? Can baely see what I 
>>> type!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 9:38:42 AM UTC-7 George Rosselle wrote:
>>>
 I have the Spank Oozy pedals on my Chameleon and like them a lot, 
 metal, low profile, and availabe bushings that are easy to replace. Too 
 bad 
 you don't like composites, I also have Race Face Chesters on a couple 
 bikes 
 and find them to be just as good and much less expensive.

 On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-4 Paul Choi wrote:

> I like the Blue Lug MKS XC-III pedals. Not too big and they hold my 
> 8.5 shoes well. They look like the bear trap pedals that I had on my 
> Redline BMX bike back in the early 80's. I got mine from Hope Cyclery. 
> They 
> have them in six colors. 
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:39:05 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the good suggestions, everyone. I'm Narrowing down the 
>> parameters, I think. So far, what I think I want:
>>
>> 1. Metal pedal body, not composite.
>> 2. Rebuildable pedal (can rebuild parts be had?).
>> 3. At least as long as the Vice (106mm, I think).
>> 4. At least 100mm wide.
>>
>> Does anyone have experience with the Xpedo Spry? it looks to tick 
>> some boxes.
>>
>> https://xpedo.com/product/pedals/flats/spry/
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:18:37 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I did grease theses once already.  Grease is inexpensive, so of 
>>> course, I could regrease them.  As for the Catalyst,  I don't want to 
>>> go 
>>> there for a few reasons:
>>> 1. I already experience toe overlap (fenders on my 700c Sam) at 
>>> times, and the length of the pedal is way longer than the Vice.
>>> 2. I don't like riding with my foot so far forward of the axle. In 
>>> other words, I'm not an arch-pedaler, which is what the Catalyst calls 
>>> for, 
>>> unless I'm mistaken.
>>> 3. I'm not convinced I need something that long. Again, how long is 
>>> long enough?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 1:17:51 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>>
 Do you add grease to your Vice pedals John ?  I always add grease 
 to any pedal, open them up, slather some grease on the axle and slide 
 the 
 body back on the excess oozes out the axle side. I have 2 pairs of 
 Vice and 
 they've been flawless. Before these I did this with Wellgo MG-1's.  

 I wear size 14 shoes and the Vice size and shape works great with 
 the shoes I wear. I pedal near midfoot, not totally. A longer platform 
 would not necessarily be any better. That's what always struck me 
 about 
 Pedal Innovations. I already pedalled mid foot, my feet were already 
 "supported"...(as if any other pedal doesn't offer support !).  What 
 they 
 neglect in their "science", is using *short cranks along with a 
 midfoot stroke*. With 185mm cranks it didn't work for me, too much 
 of a reach despite a lowered saddle, awkward.  With 170 . a little 
 better but still ... nope. Then I tried 152/150's.. ahhh .. 
 swet spot of both midoot power and pedal speed.  As the French say 
 back 
 in the day  soo-play ... soo-play ! 

 On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 9:24:43 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:

> Hi all.
> I've been riding VP Vice pedals for a few years now. It took a 
> long while (aprx. a year) to get used to riding flats, coming from 
> Speedplay Frogs. Finally, it took, and I'm happy on the flats for my 
> commuter (Sam Hill).
>
> However, the Vice have developed play, rattle a bit, and generally 
> feel gritty, and I have been experimenting with different ideas. I've 
> recently used the old MKS Touring pedals, and RMX sneaker pedals. 
> These are 
> okay, but what I've discovered is that for 

[RBW] FS: wild-style 80's Klein // XT M737/8/9

[ant ritchey]

Hello Riv-ster / BOB-ber crossover community.

Clearing a hook and a small parts hoard. An extremely good looking Klein 
Pinnacle and a grip of a certain XT era. Here are some links to Craigslist 
ads with tons of photos:

LIL' KLEIN PINNACLE 


and

XT PARTS 


Prices don't include shipping. I'd like to get $650 for the Klein. Not 
really open to offers on the XT stuff unless you wanted to buy a bunch 
of/most of it. If you go poking around you'll see I've got some other 
assorted bits for sale that I'd be happy to sell ya if you were buying the 
Klein or some XT stuff but don't really wanna make a billion trips to the 
post office. I don't know.  

Holler at me here or text (number below) if ya have any questions. Thanks 
for lookin' and happy springtime, bike people!

Anthony Ritchey // PDX OR // (724) 757-9358


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Stuff at Analog

[Irving]

Whoops, didn't realize I bumped this thread about a January sale PDF.

Details about payment and link to a sale sheet (that says it was updated in 
February 18th) is located here: 
https://analogcycles.com/blogs/news/sale-items

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 7:05:23 AM UTC-7 nphi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Is there a live link to this kicking around (rather than the pdf)?
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:08:05 PM UTC-4 joshm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Gather up all the things that you want and email James and Candice 
>> directly, they will create a PayPal invoice with shipping costs. 
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 2:50 PM Irving  wrote:
>>
>>> Uh as someone who's never bought anything from Analog's Spreadsheet 
>>> before... what's the easiest way to go about doing so?
>>>
>>> -Irving
>>> SF, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Cuz they're lovely people and have done some incredible Riv builds and 
 they have stuff you might like. 

 Joe "a satisfied customer" Bernard

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Stuff at Analog

[Nate Phipps]

Is there a live link to this kicking around (rather than the pdf)?

On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:08:05 PM UTC-4 joshm...@gmail.com wrote:

> Gather up all the things that you want and email James and Candice 
> directly, they will create a PayPal invoice with shipping costs. 
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 2:50 PM Irving  wrote:
>
>> Uh as someone who's never bought anything from Analog's Spreadsheet 
>> before... what's the easiest way to go about doing so?
>>
>> -Irving
>> SF, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Cuz they're lovely people and have done some incredible Riv builds and 
>>> they have stuff you might like. 
>>>
>>> Joe "a satisfied customer" Bernard
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Where in the world has your Riv been?

[John Rinker]

A Rambuilette comes home, and that Homer on its Odyssey in Greece seems 
just as fitting! I hitchhiked around Greece many years ago and, while it 
was a blast, I'm sure on a Riv it would have been a sublimely wonderful 
experience. 

John G, I dare say, that your travels in the East may very well win the 
most miles-ridden award. And Doug, I've camped at Dismal Nitch, which I 
believe is second in name only to 'Dildo Run Provincial Park' in 
Newfoundland.

Thanks for sharing! 

Cheers, John

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 6:59:44 AM UTC+9 dougP wrote:

> John:  Yes it's been a lot of places.  It seems my photo files are too big 
> to post more than 3 or 4.  The first is a close friend, my wife & I with 
> the Wisconsin state capitol building in the background.  The second one is 
> my wife on the fire truck in Half Moon Bay, CA.  We stayed at a B where 
> the guy's instructions to find it were that there was a fire truck parked 
> in front.  The third shot is Dante's View in Death Valley, CA.  The 
> elevation gain from below sea level to the location is 5,400' in 25 miles.  
> One of the toughest climbs I've ever done. Here's one more.
>
> dougP  
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with wind

[brendonoid]

Nick,
As a lifetime resident of Perth, I can attest to the wind issue. For me I 
have always been lucky geographically to commute with the prevailing winds 
at my back a good part of the year. I know friends not so lucky who were 
quick to adopt e-bikes for this reason.
One of the reasons I became such a fan of riding out bush here is that the 
trees provide a wonderful barrier from the ever-present wind.

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