[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

[Kim H.]

The suspense grows. I can hear it now.

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:35:03 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:

> I’m waiting for some of the parts to come in. I’ll post a new bike day 
> when done, with story. In the meantime, try a Platy!  I think she’ll love 
> it. 
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:16:13 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> And I am now dying to know what Roberta got.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:15:52 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Fit is a factor too. Rivendell has limited sizes that they stretch to 
>>> work for everyone. I happen to sit oddly in the spectrum and can either be 
>>> at the top of the range or at the bottom of a larger one. I had a 
>>> S.Hillborne and it didn't even kind of sit in the zippy camp for me. No 
>>> matter what bars I threw on it or tires or wheels it just wasn't exciting. 
>>> My Clem is infinitely better in ride quality. I am very convinced it had to 
>>> do with the sizing on the SH not working for me. I sized down when I got my 
>>> Proto Gallop and that rides fantastic as well. Honestly its so subjective 
>>> and I respect everyones experience but in the end its personal. If it were 
>>> me I would 100% upgrade the Clem first. If it doesn't work you will have 
>>> nice parts to move over to a Platy frame. That way you can try things with 
>>> less of an investment and it will still be usable if she decides it doesn't 
>>> work.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:53:55 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Favorite mixte riding bikes are Platy, Betty Foy, She-Devil, and then 
 down the list, Clem, Cheviot 



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[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

[Roberta]

I’m waiting for some of the parts to come in. I’ll post a new bike day when 
done, with story. In the meantime, try a Platy!  I think she’ll love it. 

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:16:13 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> And I am now dying to know what Roberta got.
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:15:52 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Fit is a factor too. Rivendell has limited sizes that they stretch to 
>> work for everyone. I happen to sit oddly in the spectrum and can either be 
>> at the top of the range or at the bottom of a larger one. I had a 
>> S.Hillborne and it didn't even kind of sit in the zippy camp for me. No 
>> matter what bars I threw on it or tires or wheels it just wasn't exciting. 
>> My Clem is infinitely better in ride quality. I am very convinced it had to 
>> do with the sizing on the SH not working for me. I sized down when I got my 
>> Proto Gallop and that rides fantastic as well. Honestly its so subjective 
>> and I respect everyones experience but in the end its personal. If it were 
>> me I would 100% upgrade the Clem first. If it doesn't work you will have 
>> nice parts to move over to a Platy frame. That way you can try things with 
>> less of an investment and it will still be usable if she decides it doesn't 
>> work.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:53:55 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Favorite mixte riding bikes are Platy, Betty Foy, She-Devil, and then 
>>> down the list, Clem, Cheviot 
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Ryan Ray]

Here is my Bleriot for sale on CL in Seattle or I will pay my LBS 150 bucks 
to box it up right. I bought a bigger Homer instead!

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683878809.html

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:48:24 PM UTC-8 reeb wrote:

> could be a scam. same photos from a chicago seller: 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/155871116274?hash=item244aa47bf2:g:Gg4AAOSwQglk~fZ4
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:41:01 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-09 at 4.32.02 PM copy.jpg]
>>
>> Clem H
>> 52cm
>> $741
>> New Jersey
>> https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m80573702381
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne fork on a Heron?

[Chris Dedinsky]

Thank you for the kind words! It's really a delightful unit.  

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:15:56 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> I just want to chime in to say, that’s the sexiest Heron I’ve ever seen. 
> So well done! 落
>
> On Nov 9, 2023, at 7:10 PM, Chris Dedinsky  wrote:
>
> Appreciate the threadless insight too Wes. I wouldn't have considered 
> that as an option. Bit I'll keep it in mind as I do a bit more research. 
> Thank you!
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:52:34 AM UTC-8 Wesley wrote:
>
>> Just FYI, you have more choices than you might think with the fork. If 
>> you find a fork you like but the steerer is too long, you can still use it!
>>
>> If the upper race can't thread all the way down to the cup, you can swap 
>> your headset for a 1" threadless headset, and screw the top nut not the 
>> fork threads to provide preload to the headset without having to use the 
>> typical internal nut of a treadless headset. This means you can still use a 
>> quill stem with a threadless headset! I did this recently with a threaded 
>> fork having a vry long steerer in order to get my handlebars higher. 
>> Happy to provide ics later if that would be helpful.
>> -Wes
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-8 
>> h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:
>>
>>> This week I was commuting home from work on my Heron. I got a flat on my 
>>> Challenge Strada Bianca 36 tires and on a whim—certainly inspired by the 
>>> recent 'Rondini' episode of Ron's bikes YouTube episode—decided to stuff in 
>>> a pair of much too large 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires to enjoy until the 
>>> snow falls. Which should be pretty quick here in British Columbia's 
>>> southern interior.
>>>
>>> The fork clearance is decidedly too tight and perhaps irresponsible, if 
>>> not dangerous. I'm gonna keep my fenders on as I'm not sure how long this 
>>> experiment will last. So far a couple of sporting trips back and forth to 
>>> work. 
>>>
>>> It has got me thinking though, has anyone out there modified their Heron 
>>> to have more modern Riv tire clearances? In the vein of a Sam Hillborne. I 
>>> was daydreaming about putting a more tolerable fork and crimping the 
>>> chainstays, so I could run up in the +45 range. Although the rear wheel has 
>>> much more than a few sheets of paper in clearance and the irrevesability of 
>>> crimping makes me nervous. 
>>>
>>> Would love to hear any thoughts on the pro's/con's. And if there are any 
>>> extra hillborne forks out there for a ~57 frame, I may be interested. If 
>>> so, I can give specs. I know I should leave a perfectly wonderful frameset 
>>> alone, but I can't help but wonder about it. 
>>>
>>> Here are some pics that make the fit seem even more dramatic on that 
>>> front fork. 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4368.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_4363.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_4364.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_4365.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_4366.jpg]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Wavie bar (or similar) & Silver Crank triple

[Bryce Lackey]

messaged

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 11:21:59 AM UTC-5 jamo...@gmail.com wrote:

> 25.4 Wavie Bar or something similar.  173 or 178 length triple crank.  I 
> have a FS post for a nice Rene Herse triple with extra rings and open to 
> trades.  Located in North Carolina

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[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

[Johnny Alien]

And I am now dying to know what Roberta got.

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:15:52 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Fit is a factor too. Rivendell has limited sizes that they stretch to work 
> for everyone. I happen to sit oddly in the spectrum and can either be at 
> the top of the range or at the bottom of a larger one. I had a S.Hillborne 
> and it didn't even kind of sit in the zippy camp for me. No matter what 
> bars I threw on it or tires or wheels it just wasn't exciting. My Clem is 
> infinitely better in ride quality. I am very convinced it had to do with 
> the sizing on the SH not working for me. I sized down when I got my Proto 
> Gallop and that rides fantastic as well. Honestly its so subjective and I 
> respect everyones experience but in the end its personal. If it were me I 
> would 100% upgrade the Clem first. If it doesn't work you will have nice 
> parts to move over to a Platy frame. That way you can try things with less 
> of an investment and it will still be usable if she decides it doesn't work.
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:53:55 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Favorite mixte riding bikes are Platy, Betty Foy, She-Devil, and then 
>> down the list, Clem, Cheviot 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne fork on a Heron?

[Brian Turner]

I just want to chime in to say, that’s the sexiest Heron I’ve ever seen. So well done! 落On Nov 9, 2023, at 7:10 PM, Chris Dedinsky  wrote:Appreciate the threadless insight too Wes. I wouldn't have considered that as an option. Bit I'll keep it in mind as I do a bit more research. Thank you!On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:52:34 AM UTC-8 Wesley wrote:Just FYI, you have more choices than you might think with the fork. If you find a fork you like but the steerer is too long, you can still use it!If the upper race can't thread all the way down to the cup, you can swap your headset for a 1" threadless headset, and screw the top nut not the fork threads to provide preload to the headset without having to use the typical internal nut of a treadless headset. This means you can still use a quill stem with a threadless headset! I did this recently with a threaded fork having a vry long steerer in order to get my handlebars higher. Happy to provide ics later if that would be helpful.-WesOn Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-8 h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:This week I was commuting home from work on my Heron. I got a flat on my Challenge Strada Bianca 36 tires and on a whim—certainly inspired by the recent 'Rondini' episode of Ron's bikes YouTube episode—decided to stuff in a pair of much too large 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires to enjoy until the snow falls. Which should be pretty quick here in British Columbia's southern interior.The fork clearance is decidedly too tight and perhaps irresponsible, if not dangerous. I'm gonna keep my fenders on as I'm not sure how long this experiment will last. So far a couple of sporting trips back and forth to work. It has got me thinking though, has anyone out there modified their Heron to have more modern Riv tire clearances? In the vein of a Sam Hillborne. I was daydreaming about putting a more tolerable fork and crimping the chainstays, so I could run up in the +45 range. Although the rear wheel has much more than a few sheets of paper in clearance and the irrevesability of crimping makes me nervous. Would love to hear any thoughts on the pro's/con's. And if there are any extra hillborne forks out there for a ~57 frame, I may be interested. If so, I can give specs. I know I should leave a perfectly wonderful frameset alone, but I can't help but wonder about it. Here are some pics that make the fit seem even more dramatic on that front fork. 



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[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

[Johnny Alien]

Fit is a factor too. Rivendell has limited sizes that they stretch to work 
for everyone. I happen to sit oddly in the spectrum and can either be at 
the top of the range or at the bottom of a larger one. I had a S.Hillborne 
and it didn't even kind of sit in the zippy camp for me. No matter what 
bars I threw on it or tires or wheels it just wasn't exciting. My Clem is 
infinitely better in ride quality. I am very convinced it had to do with 
the sizing on the SH not working for me. I sized down when I got my Proto 
Gallop and that rides fantastic as well. Honestly its so subjective and I 
respect everyones experience but in the end its personal. If it were me I 
would 100% upgrade the Clem first. If it doesn't work you will have nice 
parts to move over to a Platy frame. That way you can try things with less 
of an investment and it will still be usable if she decides it doesn't work.

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:53:55 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Favorite mixte riding bikes are Platy, Betty Foy, She-Devil, and then down 
> the list, Clem, Cheviot 
>
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[RBW] Re: Hillborne fork on a Heron?

[Chris Dedinsky]

Appreciate the threadless insight too Wes. I wouldn't have considered that 
as an option. Bit I'll keep it in mind as I do a bit more research. Thank 
you!

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:52:34 AM UTC-8 Wesley wrote:

> Just FYI, you have more choices than you might think with the fork. If you 
> find a fork you like but the steerer is too long, you can still use it!
>
> If the upper race can't thread all the way down to the cup, you can swap 
> your headset for a 1" threadless headset, and screw the top nut not the 
> fork threads to provide preload to the headset without having to use the 
> typical internal nut of a treadless headset. This means you can still use a 
> quill stem with a threadless headset! I did this recently with a threaded 
> fork having a vry long steerer in order to get my handlebars higher. 
> Happy to provide ics later if that would be helpful.
> -Wes
>
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-8 h...@chrisdedinsky.com 
> wrote:
>
>> This week I was commuting home from work on my Heron. I got a flat on my 
>> Challenge Strada Bianca 36 tires and on a whim—certainly inspired by the 
>> recent 'Rondini' episode of Ron's bikes YouTube episode—decided to stuff in 
>> a pair of much too large 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires to enjoy until the 
>> snow falls. Which should be pretty quick here in British Columbia's 
>> southern interior.
>>
>> The fork clearance is decidedly too tight and perhaps irresponsible, if 
>> not dangerous. I'm gonna keep my fenders on as I'm not sure how long this 
>> experiment will last. So far a couple of sporting trips back and forth to 
>> work. 
>>
>> It has got me thinking though, has anyone out there modified their Heron 
>> to have more modern Riv tire clearances? In the vein of a Sam Hillborne. I 
>> was daydreaming about putting a more tolerable fork and crimping the 
>> chainstays, so I could run up in the +45 range. Although the rear wheel has 
>> much more than a few sheets of paper in clearance and the irrevesability of 
>> crimping makes me nervous. 
>>
>> Would love to hear any thoughts on the pro's/con's. And if there are any 
>> extra hillborne forks out there for a ~57 frame, I may be interested. If 
>> so, I can give specs. I know I should leave a perfectly wonderful frameset 
>> alone, but I can't help but wonder about it. 
>>
>> Here are some pics that make the fit seem even more dramatic on that 
>> front fork. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_4368.jpg]
>> [image: IMG_4363.jpg]
>> [image: IMG_4364.jpg]
>> [image: IMG_4365.jpg]
>> [image: IMG_4366.jpg]
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Bag options on an Albastache bar?

[Eric Daume]

Another vote for a saddle bag:


On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 7:05 PM Frank Brose  wrote:

> I use a Riv Banana bag.
> Frank
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 5:57:33 PM UTC-6 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>
>> This is and old moustache bar build from several years ago but this
>> upcycled military surplus style small saddle bag worked great, both on the
>> moustache bar as well as in the similar central ‘pocket’ of some butterfly
>> trekking bars.  Same thing with the smaller VO Croissant bag pictured on
>> the saddle.
>>
>>  I’m now using the same bag on a Chocomoose bar and it does snug up
>> better with the stick mount on the flat center of the Chocomoose than it
>> did with the dirt drop stem and moustache bar or trekking bar, since the
>> stick tends to hit the stem bolts, but the size and shape otherwise tuck
>> well into the curve of the moustache style bars.  Certainly not as roomy as
>> some larger bags like a Ron’s Chest but no interference with the brakes or
>> grips that I recall and the saddle loop strap spacing pretty much fits
>> within the same space.  Maybe if you have enough room to offset the bag
>> below the levers like I would with a tall frame you may have greater
>> clearance between a bigger bag and the grips/levers.  I just never tried
>> any bags larger than shown here with this setup, unfortunately.
>>
>> Best of luck!
>>
>> Brian Cole
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Plenty of options if you use a saddlebag!
>>>
>>> Patrick "all rear loading all the time" Moore
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 9:22 AM Jon Craig (Vendraen) 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> So I'm wondering what my options are for bags on an Albastache setup. I
 currently have a Mark's rack with an Acorn Bags boxy Random, but I'd rather
 run something like a Ron's Bikes Fabio's Chest. Has anyone done this? Is it
 possible?!?!? :)

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[RBW] Re: Hillborne fork on a Heron?

[Chris Dedinsky]

Wow - that's really generous Ted, thank you kindly. I'll let you know how 
things proceed. Smart advice about paying attention to the axle/bearing 
seat distance and to the rake. I should take stock and note that a new fork 
won't necessarily be plug-and-play. No matter how much I would like that to 
be the case. 

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:49:37 AM UTC-8 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 2:22:21 PM UTC-6 h...@chrisdedinsky.com 
> wrote:
>
> This week I was commuting home from work on my Heron. I got a flat on my 
> Challenge Strada Bianca 36 tires and on a whim—certainly inspired by the 
> recent 'Rondini' episode of Ron's bikes YouTube episode—decided to stuff in 
> a pair of much too large 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires to enjoy until the 
> snow falls. 
>
>
> Yeah, the 40mm internal width of the original Heron fork crown puts an 
> unfortunate limit on tire size. For my ST-22 I requested that fork crown 
> because I wanted the round blades, as I was essentially trying to make a 
> Heron Road with a bit more clearance and fork rake. I have 45mm fenders and 
> 32mm tires on that bike, and the clearances are pretty tight. On the 
> Touring frame we added more vertical clearance, and that gets you only so 
> much additional horizontal clearance.   
>
> When looking at swapping forks, pay close attention to the distance from 
> the axle to the top of the bearing seat. If that is significantly different 
> from the original, you'll change the head tube angle and therefore the 
> steering geometry. Also, of course, the amount of fork rake will affect 
> steering. I have the all the original Heron shop drawings, but they're in 
> storage. Let me know if you want any specific dimensions.
>
> Ted Durant
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Re: [RBW] Bag options on an Albastache bar?

[Frank Brose]

I use a Riv Banana bag. 
Frank

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 5:57:33 PM UTC-6 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> This is and old moustache bar build from several years ago but this 
> upcycled military surplus style small saddle bag worked great, both on the 
> moustache bar as well as in the similar central ‘pocket’ of some butterfly 
> trekking bars.  Same thing with the smaller VO Croissant bag pictured on 
> the saddle. 
>
>  I’m now using the same bag on a Chocomoose bar and it does snug up better 
> with the stick mount on the flat center of the Chocomoose than it did with 
> the dirt drop stem and moustache bar or trekking bar, since the stick tends 
> to hit the stem bolts, but the size and shape otherwise tuck well into the 
> curve of the moustache style bars.  Certainly not as roomy as some larger 
> bags like a Ron’s Chest but no interference with the brakes or grips that I 
> recall and the saddle loop strap spacing pretty much fits within the same 
> space.  Maybe if you have enough room to offset the bag below the levers 
> like I would with a tall frame you may have greater clearance between a 
> bigger bag and the grips/levers.  I just never tried any bags larger than 
> shown here with this setup, unfortunately.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Brian Cole
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Plenty of options if you use a saddlebag!
>>
>> Patrick "all rear loading all the time" Moore
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 9:22 AM Jon Craig (Vendraen)  
>> wrote:
>>
> So I'm wondering what my options are for bags on an Albastache setup. I 
>>> currently have a Mark's rack with an Acorn Bags boxy Random, but I'd rather 
>>> run something like a Ron's Bikes Fabio's Chest. Has anyone done this? Is it 
>>> possible?!?!? :) 
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[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

[Roberta]

 Favorite mixte riding bikes are Platy, Betty Foy, She-Devil, and then down 
the list, Clem, Cheviot 

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[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Ok, ok, I see it, I’m here at last. I texted and DMd by two people today 
telling me I need to read this and weigh in. I don’t know that I can give 
you exact numbers and dimensions and weights, but I can tell you I know 
exactly what your wife is saying, Chung. 

Can I be bold here and just make the statement? Buy her the Platypus. Sell 
the Clem.

I know. You would rather make the bike you already have work for her, and I 
understand. But I have done what you are considering and I don’t think it 
will work for your wife. I had only my Clem L while I waited for the 
Platypus to be created. I was using the Clem to ride up the mountain home 
to my house and it was exhausting. I decided if I got lightweight, fancy 
wheels, supple tires, set them up tubeless and then lightened my 
components, that it would solve the problem. It helped, BUT, when that 
Platypus came, anything that Clem was offering me no longer compared. The 
Platy is just a superior bike and I can’t tell you how Rivendell did it. It 
isn’t that much lighter than a Clem, but it feels lighter. And zippy. And 
nimble. I ride my Platypus on club rides and I use my other Platypus for 
shopping. Sometimes I still ride the Clem but I always miss the Platys when 
I do. The Clem is a great riding bike. I’m happy to have one. But I live by 
the Platypus. 

I know. I can’t give you weight charts and all that, but I’m telling you 
the truth as I know it. There might be other people on here who currently 
have both bikes, but the ones I’m aware of prefer their Platypus to their 
Clem. Plus, the Platy is shorter than the Clem. Easier for the train.
Leah

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:23:55 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> I have a 55 Platy and have ridden a Clem L.  Leah, BicycleBelleDingDing, 
> has both.  Clem L is significantly longer and heavier, but let Leah weigh 
> in.  
>
> Platy is a perfect pavement bike--looks pretty and feels great.  However, 
> it is long (although it is 5 inches shorter than 52 Clem L) and will not 
> fit on my city's bike bus rack.  I've had no issues on the commuter trains.
>
> If you're near Philadelphia and you want to try my "everything but the 
> kitchen sink" Platy, you're welcome to try.  It will be up for sale soon.  
> Why the sale?  The ONLY reason is I cannot fit it on my city's bus rack and 
> I live in the city where bus transportation is a must.  It's a non issue 
> for just about everyone else.  (Replacement bike is also a Riv, but it's 
> not finished yet, so haven't posted.)
>
> Feel free to contact me off list for a lot more details about different 
> Riv mixte's and step thrus--I've tried them all.  BTW, I also have this for 
> sale 
> https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bik/d/2019-handsome-cycles-55cm-she-devil/7670046879.html
>   
> and LOVED riding it until my new Riv purchase.   Not quite a Riv but a 
> great commuter bike.
>
> Roberta, seems like I've tried all the mixtes I could, from Philadelphia
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 11:21:50 AM UTC-5 chungeu...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I bought a complete Clem L for my wife and she enjoyed riding it so far.
>> However, she felt that it's a bit too much bike for her since she only 
>> rides it on the pavement for the commute. She finds it too heavy when 
>> storing it in a rack and bring it on the the commuting train.
>> Since she still likes the step-through design, I wonder if swapping it 
>> with the complete Platypus would solve her problem. Or, can we solve this 
>> with lighter components (probably the wheelset and tires?) and some cockpit 
>> setup to make it more zippy?
>>
>> Best,
>> Chung
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

[Roberta]

My favorite Riv Mixte rides in order are Betty Foy, Platy, ClemL, Cheviot.  

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:23:55 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> I have a 55 Platy and have ridden a Clem L.  Leah, BicycleBelleDingDing, 
> has both.  Clem L is significantly longer and heavier, but let Leah weigh 
> in.  
>
> Platy is a perfect pavement bike--looks pretty and feels great.  However, 
> it is long (although it is 5 inches shorter than 52 Clem L) and will not 
> fit on my city's bike bus rack.  I've had no issues on the commuter trains.
>
> If you're near Philadelphia and you want to try my "everything but the 
> kitchen sink" Platy, you're welcome to try.  It will be up for sale soon.  
> Why the sale?  The ONLY reason is I cannot fit it on my city's bus rack and 
> I live in the city where bus transportation is a must.  It's a non issue 
> for just about everyone else.  (Replacement bike is also a Riv, but it's 
> not finished yet, so haven't posted.)
>
> Feel free to contact me off list for a lot more details about different 
> Riv mixte's and step thrus--I've tried them all.  BTW, I also have this for 
> sale 
> https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bik/d/2019-handsome-cycles-55cm-she-devil/7670046879.html
>   
> and LOVED riding it until my new Riv purchase.   Not quite a Riv but a 
> great commuter bike.
>
> Roberta, seems like I've tried all the mixtes I could, from Philadelphia
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 11:21:50 AM UTC-5 chungeu...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I bought a complete Clem L for my wife and she enjoyed riding it so far.
>> However, she felt that it's a bit too much bike for her since she only 
>> rides it on the pavement for the commute. She finds it too heavy when 
>> storing it in a rack and bring it on the the commuting train.
>> Since she still likes the step-through design, I wonder if swapping it 
>> with the complete Platypus would solve her problem. Or, can we solve this 
>> with lighter components (probably the wheelset and tires?) and some cockpit 
>> setup to make it more zippy?
>>
>> Best,
>> Chung
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

[Roberta]

I have a 55 Platy and have ridden a Clem L.  Leah, BicycleBelleDingDing, 
has both.  Clem L is significantly longer and heavier, but let Leah weigh 
in.  

Platy is a perfect pavement bike--looks pretty and feels great.  However, 
it is long (although it is 5 inches shorter than 52 Clem L) and will not 
fit on my city's bike bus rack.  I've had no issues on the commuter trains.

If you're near Philadelphia and you want to try my "everything but the 
kitchen sink" Platy, you're welcome to try.  It will be up for sale soon.  
Why the sale?  The ONLY reason is I cannot fit it on my city's bus rack and 
I live in the city where bus transportation is a must.  It's a non issue 
for just about everyone else.  (Replacement bike is also a Riv, but it's 
not finished yet, so haven't posted.)

Feel free to contact me off list for a lot more details about different Riv 
mixte's and step thrus--I've tried them all.  BTW, I also have this for 
sale 
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bik/d/2019-handsome-cycles-55cm-she-devil/7670046879.html
  
and LOVED riding it until my new Riv purchase.   Not quite a Riv but a 
great commuter bike.

Roberta, seems like I've tried all the mixtes I could, from Philadelphia
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 11:21:50 AM UTC-5 chungeu...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I bought a complete Clem L for my wife and she enjoyed riding it so far.
> However, she felt that it's a bit too much bike for her since she only 
> rides it on the pavement for the commute. She finds it too heavy when 
> storing it in a rack and bring it on the the commuting train.
> Since she still likes the step-through design, I wonder if swapping it 
> with the complete Platypus would solve her problem. Or, can we solve this 
> with lighter components (probably the wheelset and tires?) and some cockpit 
> setup to make it more zippy?
>
> Best,
> Chung
>

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Re: [RBW] Bag options on an Albastache bar?

[Patrick Moore]

Plenty of options if you use a saddlebag!

Patrick "all rear loading all the time" Moore

On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 9:22 AM Jon Craig (Vendraen) 
wrote:

> So I'm wondering what my options are for bags on an Albastache setup. I
> currently have a Mark's rack with an Acorn Bags boxy Random, but I'd rather
> run something like a Ron's Bikes Fabio's Chest. Has anyone done this? Is it
> possible?!?!? :)
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[reeb]

could be a scam. same photos from a chicago 
seller: 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/155871116274?hash=item244aa47bf2:g:Gg4AAOSwQglk~fZ4

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:41:01 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-09 at 4.32.02 PM copy.jpg]
>
> Clem H
> 52cm
> $741
> New Jersey
> https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m80573702381
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Re: [RBW] It finally happened re: Clem stock tires

[Bill Lindsay]

Kenda Qwick Bitumen here on my office bike.  They came on an Appaloosa, and 
now roll on a fixed gear Crust.  

Your bike came with the Kendas, and you love your bike, and they 
practically never puncture?  APPROVE

I acknowledge there are people who can't imagine riding tires as bad as the 
Kenda Quick whatevers.  I also acknowledge that there are people who would 
turn down an ice cold Corona on a hot day because they can't imagine 
drinking that swill.  I'll take a bike ride on Kenda Quick Bitumen over not 
riding, and I'd take a cold Corona over going thirsty.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 2:57:59 PM UTC-8 Jim Bronson wrote:

> It is the Kenda QwickNine.  The beauty of these tires is that they don't 
> get flats in normal usage.
>
> I have other bikes that I run ReneHerse tires on.  But for what I use Clem 
> for, which is mixed terrain riding and commuting, they're great.  And 
> they're very forgiving about air pressure.  They ride fine down to about 
> 20psi, but you can inflate them to 50psi, or anything inbetween.  Or even 
> more if you like but the ride is more bumpy.
>
> Other bikes:  fill to whatever pressure causes the most optimal sidewall 
> deflection of 15% plus or minus 3 psi depending on usage and the alignment 
> of the stars, the planet's gravitational pull and canine flatulence along 
> my route of travel.
>
> Clem:  Tires have air?  Ok, let's ride.
>
> Jim
> ATX
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 2:21 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>
>> I absolutely hated the stock tires on the Clem (Kenda Kwik Nines at the 
>> time). Maybe the worst feeling tire I’ve ever experienced. I can’t imagine 
>> six years on those things!
>>
>> Eric
>>
>
>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023, Jim Bronson  wrote:
>>
> Well after 6 years of owning my Clem and riding it at least 1x weekly, 
>>> usually 4-5x weekly, I got a flat.
>>>
>>> I was doing my normal 3 mode commute, by car to the train station, by 
>>> train into town and by bike from the train station to the office.  Well I 
>>> rode my bike from the car to the train and was goofing off a bit and I 
>>> thought it was a seamless transition from the grass to the sidewalk in the 
>>> pre dawn light, well, it was actually a large sharp edge that was about 
>>> 4-5" higher than the grass.  Thankfully didn't go down, the front wheel 
>>> rolled over it but I'm guessing I either got a pinch or just exploded the 
>>> tube internally.
>>>
>>> I hung the bike up on the train and got out my laptop and did normal 
>>> work laptop stuff while riding the 40 minutes down to the office.  Well 
>>> when I stood up to unrack my Clem the front tire was flat.  Well I've never 
>>> had a flat on Clem before and although I had a spare tube, I did not have a 
>>> pump or other method of inflation.  So I hike a bike'd the 2.5 miles to the 
>>> office.
>>>
>>> I was able to buy a Schwalbe tube at the e-Bike store across the street, 
>>> albeit for a princely $18 for a SV19.  It's been holding air ever since, so 
>>> hopefully it will be another 6 years before I have another flat.  
>>>
>>> Gratuitous bike pic:  Clem on the train on a different day.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>> ATX
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[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

[Garth]

Chung, If your wife finds the Clem too long and heavy a Platypus is not 
going to make a effective difference in regards to weight or maneuvering. 
What would is a frame like a Soma Buena Vista (rim brake or disc) or Velo 
Orange Polyvalent low kicker. Both have relatively typical chainstays and 
wheelbases and are going to be easier to pick up and maneuver simply due to 
the fact that they have "normal" wheelbases and chainstays so are going to 
be inherently lighter to begin with. There's a notable difference in 
geometry though, with the VO being more low trail and the Soma mid-high. 
Plus the Soma has quite steep seat tube angles so if using a Brooks you may 
not be able to get the seat back where you want. Thankfully they do both 
use a 27.2 post though. 

Note, the Platy isn't a step through either so all three compared to a Clem 
are more like step around I suppose ! 

https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5b8578fd48f3a30004789cd9,5ee8f7ce7eaeb8001717ac2f,

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 2:53:48 PM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:

I don’t know about the Platypus, but my wife rides a Betty Foy. It rides 
ligh/zippy  and she loves it. Currently has a Wald 137 front basket and a 
Riv trunk bag. 
They’re a bit hard to come by but Cheviot was essentially the same bike. 

Tires are 650b x 38 with fenders. Not sure I’d go larger. 

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:21:50 AM UTC-7 chungeu...wrote:

Hi,

I bought a complete Clem L for my wife and she enjoyed riding it so far.
However, she felt that it's a bit too much bike for her since she only 
rides it on the pavement for the commute. She finds it too heavy when 
storing it in a rack and bring it on the the commuting train.
Since she still likes the step-through design, I wonder if swapping it with 
the complete Platypus would solve her problem. Or, can we solve this with 
lighter components (probably the wheelset and tires?) and some cockpit 
setup to make it more zippy?

Best,
Chung

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[RBW] Re: FS: Mission Workshop R6 40L Bag with Accessories

[Michael Ullmer]

Sold

On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 12:58:50 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Bump, now selling without the side pockets for $200 plus shipping
>
> On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 8:57:48 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Bump and a price drop, $280 plus shipping
>>
>> On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 1:40:22 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> I cobbled this R6 together with all the accessories I could ever want, 
>>> but I'm not a big fan of the Arkiv system and prefer my fully integrated 
>>> Blaqpak Backpack for winter commuting duty with a backpack (which started 
>>> this morning with a brisk and icy ride into Downtown MPLS on a well used 
>>> 1x1).
>>>
>>> Bag itself shows nice patina, no rips/holes in the waxed canvas. All 
>>> straps/zips work great. Comes with:
>>>
>>> R6 40L Brown Waxed Canvas Backpack 
>>> Laptop Sleeve
>>> Rolltop Side Pocket
>>> Vertical Side Pocket 
>>> Waxed Canvas Tool Pouch
>>> Removable Hip Strap
>>> Cobra Buckle
>>>
>>> Total retail value of backpack with all accessories - $675 plus tax
>>>
>>> Looking to get $300 plus shipping costs via Pirateship.
>>>
>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Fyue9v7u1HbhmygQA
>>>
>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[JAS]

*Rivendell Road Custom by Waterford $900*
58cm with shortened top tube
650b wheel
https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bik/d/kenmore-rivendell-road/7684875657.html

*Bleriot  $800*
61 cm
650b
Recently rebuilt by Free Range Cycles, Seattle (great LBS)
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683878809.html

*Bleriot  $1500*
61 cm
650b
1x10
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683324285.html

*Susie Longbolts frame $1700*
56cm
29 in wheel
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/eugene-like-new-56cm-rivendell-susie/7683111089.html

*Betty Foy $2200*
58cm
650b
https://klamath.craigslist.org/bik/d/klamath-falls-58-cm-rivendell-betty-foy/7678238580.html
On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 3:44:15 AM UTC-8 Eric Marth wrote:

> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
> Roadini f/f/hs
> 61cm 
> $650
> eBay: Angwin, California 
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/145420923330
>
> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-08 at 6.42.17 AM.png]
> Frank Jones Sr f/f/hs
> 49cm
> $1,750
> eBay: Racine, Wisconsin
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/386262248039
>
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 10:16:40 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>
>> There's also a good deal ($1K) on a 60 well used Sam on the new radavist 
>> bazaar: 
>> https://radbazaar.theradavist.com/listing/6UtpNT2y4m2uFuoKQUjo?category=undefined=undefined
>>
>> No association with the seller.
>>
>> Max
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 9:21 AM Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>>> Rivendell Roadini - $1,500 (Ellensburg) 
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/ellensburg-rivendell-roadini/7676911394.html
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel... no interest in purchase. 
>>> On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 chefd...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Ooops. Sorry - obviously, I skipped over the past few additions to the 
 thread.

 On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 6:00:27 PM UTC-7 Stephen Durfee wrote:

> @dylanthomasgreen, here's your 54 
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/emeryville-rivendell-hunqapillar/7682361768.html
> On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 6:06:34 AM UTC-7 dylantho...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> just like the last hunq, this is a 52. I’ve been on the hunt 
>> For a 54 for the last year…so it continues
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 5:21 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> <0_ccmrPRcSB2W_0CI0t2_600x450-1.jpg>
>>
>>
>> It's too bad to see an uncommon Riv frame that was rippled and 
>> dimpled by one owner and left outside *over winter* by the next. 
>> Perhaps with the damage there's some more room to negotiate the price. 
>> It 
>> would be nice if a new owner could resurrect it. But I'm worried it's 
>> worse 
>> than it looks given the current owner's lack of bicycle savvy (bad pics, 
>> missing important pics, incorrect wheel size). 
>>
>> AFAIK Bernie Mikkelson does repair work for Rivendell (when he can 
>> get to it) and if this frame has been inspected and evaluated by him 
>> that 
>> would give me some degree of confidence. Even more if I could call him 
>> and 
>> he remembered the frame. 
>> On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 1:48:52 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> That poor Hunq looks like it got overclamped in a repair stand. 
>>> Clamp the seatpost, people! 
>>>
>>> The price is optimistic with the damage and visible rust but it 
>>> probably rides fine. 
>>>
>>> There's no 54cm Hunqapillar with 26-inch wheels, I'm not sure what 
>>> size this frame is. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 2:02:05 PM UTC-7 
>>> h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:
>>>
 Anybody know more details about this Hunq: 
 https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/7682361768.html?lang=fr=ca

 On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 8:58:27 AM UTC-7 Drew Henson wrote:

> I had the chance to buy that legolas and I just don't have the 
> funds to pull it off right now. whoever gets it please show us that 
> eventual build!
>
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 5:32:40 PM UTC-7 
> mmille...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Pretty Legolas frame over at Crust Trader. 
>> https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/179172
>> Matt in STL
>>
>> On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 1:45:45 PM UTC-5 RBW Owners Bunch 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 59cm Legolas over on internet-BOB.  $400, with a backstory.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:09 PM UTC-7 
>>> jerry...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Rivendell SimpleOne Frame 60 cm w/Fork And Headset (not mine, 
 nor seller known to me)

 $425 plus shipping - or Best Offer


 [image: Riv-ebay.jpg]

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

[Hoch in ut]

I don’t know about the Platypus, but my wife rides a Betty Foy. It rides 
ligh/zippy  and she loves it. Currently has a Wald 137 front basket and a 
Riv trunk bag. 
They’re a bit hard to come by but Cheviot was essentially the same bike. 

Tires are 650b x 38 with fenders. Not sure I’d go larger. 

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:21:50 AM UTC-7 chungeu...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I bought a complete Clem L for my wife and she enjoyed riding it so far.
> However, she felt that it's a bit too much bike for her since she only 
> rides it on the pavement for the commute. She finds it too heavy when 
> storing it in a rack and bring it on the the commuting train.
> Since she still likes the step-through design, I wonder if swapping it 
> with the complete Platypus would solve her problem. Or, can we solve this 
> with lighter components (probably the wheelset and tires?) and some cockpit 
> setup to make it more zippy?
>
> Best,
> Chung
>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

[DavidP]

The Platypus is a shorter bike and will ride a bit zippier due to that. 
Leah comes to mind as one who has compared the ride between her Platypus 
and Clem but others may have shared experience as well.

In terms of weight - the Clem frame may be a bit heavier but I'd guess not 
by much. The builds will make a much more significant difference. Putting a 
lighter wheelset and tires (especially if it is running the stock Kenda 
Kwick7.5/Kwick9s) will make the biggest difference, but things like racks 
can add up too. 

My Platypus is over 30lbs but for my use (out my door, suburban, mixed 
surface riding) I don't mind, and happily choose it over 25lb bikes when it 
suits.

All that said, I'm not sure swapping a Clem for a Platy will gain you much 
in addressing the concerns of weight and maneuverability for a multi-modal 
commute.

-Dave

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 11:21:50 AM UTC-5 chungeu...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I bought a complete Clem L for my wife and she enjoyed riding it so far.
> However, she felt that it's a bit too much bike for her since she only 
> rides it on the pavement for the commute. She finds it too heavy when 
> storing it in a rack and bring it on the the commuting train.
> Since she still likes the step-through design, I wonder if swapping it 
> with the complete Platypus would solve her problem. Or, can we solve this 
> with lighter components (probably the wheelset and tires?) and some cockpit 
> setup to make it more zippy?
>
> Best,
> Chung
>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

[Johnny Alien]

The Clem is more stout for sure but I doubt that the overall frame weight 
is all that different. Probably really minor actually. I think the biggest 
difference is that people tend to build up the Platypus frames with lighter 
and higher end components vs the way a Clem is built. So I think you could 
100% make a Clem lighter with different components. And a lighter set of 
wheels with a supple tire should make a difference in ride feel as well. I 
think wheels and tires are the best upgrade you can make on any bike. There 
is still geometry to take into consideration but overall I think a Clem can 
be upgraded to generally meet what an all around Platy will do. 

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 11:21:50 AM UTC-5 chungeu...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I bought a complete Clem L for my wife and she enjoyed riding it so far.
> However, she felt that it's a bit too much bike for her since she only 
> rides it on the pavement for the commute. She finds it too heavy when 
> storing it in a rack and bring it on the the commuting train.
> Since she still likes the step-through design, I wonder if swapping it 
> with the complete Platypus would solve her problem. Or, can we solve this 
> with lighter components (probably the wheelset and tires?) and some cockpit 
> setup to make it more zippy?
>
> Best,
> Chung
>

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[RBW] Re: Bag options on an Albastache bar?

[Chris Dedinsky]

This is tangental to a Ron's Chest, but I saw this image in a Craigslist ad 
and took a screengrab cause I thought it looked good with the Albastache 
bars:
[image: 00I0I_eIxUWD3gGlz_0t20CI_600x450.jpeg]


On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 8:22:12 AM UTC-8 modemm...@gmail.com wrote:

> So I'm wondering what my options are for bags on an Albastache setup. I 
> currently have a Mark's rack with an Acorn Bags boxy Random, but I'd rather 
> run something like a Ron's Bikes Fabio's Chest. Has anyone done this? Is it 
> possible?!?!? :)

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Joe Bernard]

The Hunqapillar finally gets some decent photos. It's not encouraging..

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/emeryville-rivendell-hunqapillar/7682361768.html

On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 3:44:15 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
> Roadini f/f/hs
> 61cm 
> $650
> eBay: Angwin, California 
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/145420923330
>
> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-08 at 6.42.17 AM.png]
> Frank Jones Sr f/f/hs
> 49cm
> $1,750
> eBay: Racine, Wisconsin
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/386262248039
>
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 10:16:40 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>
>> There's also a good deal ($1K) on a 60 well used Sam on the new radavist 
>> bazaar: 
>> https://radbazaar.theradavist.com/listing/6UtpNT2y4m2uFuoKQUjo?category=undefined=undefined
>>
>> No association with the seller.
>>
>> Max
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 9:21 AM Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>>> Rivendell Roadini - $1,500 (Ellensburg) 
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/ellensburg-rivendell-roadini/7676911394.html
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel... no interest in purchase. 
>>> On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 chefd...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Ooops. Sorry - obviously, I skipped over the past few additions to the 
 thread.

 On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 6:00:27 PM UTC-7 Stephen Durfee wrote:

> @dylanthomasgreen, here's your 54 
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/emeryville-rivendell-hunqapillar/7682361768.html
> On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 6:06:34 AM UTC-7 dylantho...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> just like the last hunq, this is a 52. I’ve been on the hunt 
>> For a 54 for the last year…so it continues
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 5:21 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> <0_ccmrPRcSB2W_0CI0t2_600x450-1.jpg>
>>
>>
>> It's too bad to see an uncommon Riv frame that was rippled and 
>> dimpled by one owner and left outside *over winter* by the next. 
>> Perhaps with the damage there's some more room to negotiate the price. 
>> It 
>> would be nice if a new owner could resurrect it. But I'm worried it's 
>> worse 
>> than it looks given the current owner's lack of bicycle savvy (bad pics, 
>> missing important pics, incorrect wheel size). 
>>
>> AFAIK Bernie Mikkelson does repair work for Rivendell (when he can 
>> get to it) and if this frame has been inspected and evaluated by him 
>> that 
>> would give me some degree of confidence. Even more if I could call him 
>> and 
>> he remembered the frame. 
>> On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 1:48:52 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> That poor Hunq looks like it got overclamped in a repair stand. 
>>> Clamp the seatpost, people! 
>>>
>>> The price is optimistic with the damage and visible rust but it 
>>> probably rides fine. 
>>>
>>> There's no 54cm Hunqapillar with 26-inch wheels, I'm not sure what 
>>> size this frame is. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 2:02:05 PM UTC-7 
>>> h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:
>>>
 Anybody know more details about this Hunq: 
 https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/7682361768.html?lang=fr=ca

 On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 8:58:27 AM UTC-7 Drew Henson wrote:

> I had the chance to buy that legolas and I just don't have the 
> funds to pull it off right now. whoever gets it please show us that 
> eventual build!
>
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 5:32:40 PM UTC-7 
> mmille...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Pretty Legolas frame over at Crust Trader. 
>> https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/179172
>> Matt in STL
>>
>> On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 1:45:45 PM UTC-5 RBW Owners Bunch 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 59cm Legolas over on internet-BOB.  $400, with a backstory.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:09 PM UTC-7 
>>> jerry...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Rivendell SimpleOne Frame 60 cm w/Fork And Headset (not mine, 
 nor seller known to me)

 $425 plus shipping - or Best Offer


 [image: Riv-ebay.jpg]

 On Thursday, 19 October 2023 at 11:51:08 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle 
 Ding Ding! wrote:

> I know that seller. He’s a good man and I hope he finds an 
> equally nice buyer.
>
> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 2:14:30 PM UTC-4 
> greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
>> Nice NOS Hunqapillar frame set:
>>
>>
>> https://lansing.craigslist.org/bik/d/okemos-rivendell-hunqapillar-frameset/7678319217.html
>>

Re: [RBW] Bike Rack

[3munro5]

Oh my hosh! That's horrible! Do you mind me asking which model? Maybe that 2 month waiting list wouldn't be too far iff...Thanks for the good info!!Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 9, 2023, at 8:31 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:Jacob, as a Kuat owner, I'm very curious as to what exactly happened with your rack? Which model do you have? What part failed when you say it "fell apart"?-BrianOn Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 11:21:14 AM UTC-5 jacobir...@gmail.com wrote:I have a Kuat and do yourself a favor and stay VERY clear of them. It fell apart and my bike almost fell off on the freeway. 



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Re: [RBW] Bike Rack

[Brian Turner]

Jacob, as a Kuat owner, I'm very curious as to what exactly happened with 
your rack? Which model do you have? What part failed when you say it "fell 
apart"?

-Brian

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wrote:

I have a Kuat and do yourself a favor and stay VERY clear of them. It fell 
apart and my bike almost fell off on the freeway. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bedrock Mountain Clogs in Stock!

[Ryan Ogilvie]

Thanks for posting your size feedback. I ended up dithering so will need to wait for the next batch. Sent from my mobile device. On Oct 31, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Michael Ullmer  wrote:I concur! I got mine over the weekend and went with a size 13, though I usually wear size 11-12 in most shoes. I compared the length with the Size 11 Crocs that these are replacing and the size 13 Mountain Clogs were the same length.On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:22:04 AM UTC-5 Joe A. wrote:I received mine and they are great. I can confirm that they run a little smaller than I expected for those that are still considering sizing. On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 8:14:32 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:I was so excited for the restock! I didn’t see the email before I took my daughter to school. In those 30 or so minutes, my size was sold out in the full leather. Hopefully I don’t have to wait another year for a 30 minute window. On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 4:05:09 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:I had reached out to supporr, here is what they said:  Most folks are wearing the same size in the Clogs and the Cairns, however I would say if you have a more snug fit in your sandals (not much wiggle room), you may need to size up in the clogs. Hope this helps!On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 9:45:32 PM UTC-4 Teague Scott wrote:Wow these are cool. Thanks for getting them on my radar. Wondering whether sizing runs true to their sandals...On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:29:47 PM UTC-6 Calvin Yolo wrote:I had the leather ones and just purchased the green suede as a back up pair. I have a ton of miles walked in my first pair and I'll probably have these in rotation for as long as they make them.On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:25:26 AM UTC-7 Joe A. wrote:Hey Riv Fam,For any of those curious about these clogs they're finally back in stock. I snagged a pair of them in Nubuck Leather. Should be great for fall riding :)https://bedrocksandals.com/collections/bedrock-mountain-clogsHappy riding!- J



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[RBW] Re: WTB - 135 hub

[Adam Bowen]

Found it! Thank y'all

On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 6:10:06 AM UTC-4 R. Alexis wrote:

> I know I have some mid level Shimano ones and a few no name ones. Will 
> have to look in stash. Seems like you would want something nicer. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 12:50:14 AM UTC-5 adam.som...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Looking for the last piece of my Appo build. Does anyone have a nice, 
>> used, silver, 135 hub for sale?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Adam
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: Tubus Front Pannier Rack

[Ryan Ogilvie]

Hi all,

Selling my Tubus tubular steel front pannier rack. I bought this in 2010 
for a tour across the Canadian Rockies. I've used it a bit for commuting 
and light bike packing since. It's has some decent scratches (only a few go 
to base metal), but remains a solid point of attachment for front panniers. 

I don't really have much use for it, but would likely keep if it better fit 
my Susie. Fitting it to the Suz would need some mount extensions and seems 
like a lot of work for something I don't really need any longer.

Would sell for $30, shipping included. 

I don't see this guy on Tubus' website any longer, so if you want a pure 
(no shelf) pannier rack, let me know. 

Pics here: https://share.icloud.com/photos/04bGhddBn0CGm391zrpyOuRkg

Best,
Ryan



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[RBW] Bag options on an Albastache bar?

[Jon Craig (Vendraen)]

So I'm wondering what my options are for bags on an Albastache setup. I 
currently have a Mark's rack with an Acorn Bags boxy Random, but I'd rather 
run something like a Ron's Bikes Fabio's Chest. Has anyone done this? Is it 
possible?!?!? :)

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[RBW] WTB: Wavie bar (or similar) & Silver Crank triple

[James Copp]

25.4 Wavie Bar or something similar.  173 or 178 length triple crank.  I 
have a FS post for a nice Rene Herse triple with extra rings and open to 
trades.  Located in North Carolina

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[RBW] Platypus for Clem L?

[Chung Eun Kim]

Hi,

I bought a complete Clem L for my wife and she enjoyed riding it so far.
However, she felt that it's a bit too much bike for her since she only 
rides it on the pavement for the commute. She finds it too heavy when 
storing it in a rack and bring it on the the commuting train.
Since she still likes the step-through design, I wonder if swapping it with 
the complete Platypus would solve her problem. Or, can we solve this with 
lighter components (probably the wheelset and tires?) and some cockpit 
setup to make it more zippy?

Best,
Chung

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Re: [RBW] Bike Rack

[Jacob Ireland]

I have a Kuat and do yourself a favor and stay VERY clear of them. It fell apart and my bike almost fell off on the freeway. On Nov 5, 2023, at 06:03, Ron Cramer  wrote:IMHO the Kuat Sherpa. Had other racks, but this is my favorite. The Sherpa is light, therefore easy to mount. But I would use an additional cable lock.On Sat, Nov 4, 2023, 1:35 PM SallyG <3mun...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi all!Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50 cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!Sally



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[RBW] Anyone in Providence, RI?

[Pete Oyler]

Wondering if anyone here is based in Providence? 

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[RBW] WTT Woolywarm rollneck sweater M for L

[daniel belyusar]

Hi all, 
I just picked up the English Merino rollneck sweater from Riv and got the 
wrong size. I am hoping someone might have made the same mistake the other 
way as they seem out of the L. 

Medium, Navy, never worn except to try on, still in bag. 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/woolywarm-all-merino-navy-blue-sweater-from-england?variant=40880140714095

Hoping for a large, potentially other colors. 

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Hillborne fork on a Heron?

[Wesley]

Just FYI, you have more choices than you might think with the fork. If you 
find a fork you like but the steerer is too long, you can still use it!

If the upper race can't thread all the way down to the cup, you can swap 
your headset for a 1" threadless headset, and screw the top nut not the 
fork threads to provide preload to the headset without having to use the 
typical internal nut of a treadless headset. This means you can still use a 
quill stem with a threadless headset! I did this recently with a threaded 
fork having a vry long steerer in order to get my handlebars higher. 
Happy to provide ics later if that would be helpful.
-Wes

On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-8 h...@chrisdedinsky.com 
wrote:

> This week I was commuting home from work on my Heron. I got a flat on my 
> Challenge Strada Bianca 36 tires and on a whim—certainly inspired by the 
> recent 'Rondini' episode of Ron's bikes YouTube episode—decided to stuff in 
> a pair of much too large 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires to enjoy until the 
> snow falls. Which should be pretty quick here in British Columbia's 
> southern interior.
>
> The fork clearance is decidedly too tight and perhaps irresponsible, if 
> not dangerous. I'm gonna keep my fenders on as I'm not sure how long this 
> experiment will last. So far a couple of sporting trips back and forth to 
> work. 
>
> It has got me thinking though, has anyone out there modified their Heron 
> to have more modern Riv tire clearances? In the vein of a Sam Hillborne. I 
> was daydreaming about putting a more tolerable fork and crimping the 
> chainstays, so I could run up in the +45 range. Although the rear wheel has 
> much more than a few sheets of paper in clearance and the irrevesability of 
> crimping makes me nervous. 
>
> Would love to hear any thoughts on the pro's/con's. And if there are any 
> extra hillborne forks out there for a ~57 frame, I may be interested. If 
> so, I can give specs. I know I should leave a perfectly wonderful frameset 
> alone, but I can't help but wonder about it. 
>
> Here are some pics that make the fit seem even more dramatic on that front 
> fork. 
>
> [image: IMG_4368.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4363.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4364.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4365.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4366.jpg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hillborne fork on a Heron?

[Ted Durant]

On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 2:22:21 PM UTC-6 h...@chrisdedinsky.com 
wrote:

This week I was commuting home from work on my Heron. I got a flat on my 
Challenge Strada Bianca 36 tires and on a whim—certainly inspired by the 
recent 'Rondini' episode of Ron's bikes YouTube episode—decided to stuff in 
a pair of much too large 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires to enjoy until the 
snow falls. 


Yeah, the 40mm internal width of the original Heron fork crown puts an 
unfortunate limit on tire size. For my ST-22 I requested that fork crown 
because I wanted the round blades, as I was essentially trying to make a 
Heron Road with a bit more clearance and fork rake. I have 45mm fenders and 
32mm tires on that bike, and the clearances are pretty tight. On the 
Touring frame we added more vertical clearance, and that gets you only so 
much additional horizontal clearance.   

When looking at swapping forks, pay close attention to the distance from 
the axle to the top of the bearing seat. If that is significantly different 
from the original, you'll change the head tube angle and therefore the 
steering geometry. Also, of course, the amount of fork rake will affect 
steering. I have the all the original Heron shop drawings, but they're in 
storage. Let me know if you want any specific dimensions.

Ted Durant

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