[RBW] Want to buy Paul Levers (and a few other things)

[luckyturnip]

Hi all,
I am working on building my S/O a fancified late 70’s step thru Raleigh Sprite. 
It will be the first time I build my own wheels.
Anyhow unrelated to the wheels I am looking to buy a used pair of Silver Paul 
Love Levers.
If anyone is selling those please message me off list with price shipped to 
Sacramento.
If you’re wondering what else I am looking for the big thing is a Sturmey 
Archer S-RF3 hub and thumbshifter (120 old/32h). I waited too long to buy this 
and Handsome Cycles store appears to be closed. 
Due to the weird scams I have seen happening on this list please know that I 
will look for verification of your existence in our correspondence, and I will 
expect to pay you with Goods/Services for both our protection unless we meet in 
person.

Thanks,
Liz in Sacramento (unwilling to remove the Love Levers from my Atlantis) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus /Susie bottom bracket -which one?

[Kim H.]

@Richard -

Thank-you. 

Yes, I know that I do not have as many miles on my Clem's BB as you did, 
since the bicycle was from the 2023 production and a "Demo-bike" at RBW 
headquarters. I am just concerned about how my BB feels upon pulliing it 
off here in the near future. I want a smooth running drive train.

Kim Hetzel
The frogs are singing in the night air and the daffodils are showing their 
blooms of spring !

On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 8:21:10 PM UTC-8 Richard Rose wrote:

Kim, I do have it & will dig it up tomorrow. By the way, my Shimano bb felt 
fine until I removed the crank & spun the bottom bracket by hand. It was 
not “crunchy” as others have described. It was stiff though & felt kind of 
“notchy”, almost indexed. I had put almost 7,000 miles on it so figured now 
was the time. The new one is really smooth.
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2024, at 10:46 PM, Kim H.  wrote:



@Richard -

Do you know of the model serial number of the Stronglight BB that you 
bought from Peter White Cycles for your Clem ? ... providing that you have 
not changed up your stock SILVER double 34/24T rings and spindle length.

>From the information that you have shared, I am concerned about my BB on my 
Clem not being buttery smooth from the stock Shimano BB and having perhaps 
a lot of drag.

Thank-you.
Kim Hetzel. 



On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 7:09:08 AM UTC-8 Richard Rose wrote:

Thanks Regi. The BB I have on the Gus does work fine. I recently replaced 
the Shimano BB on my Clem (it felt very stiff) after 7,000 miles of service 
with a Stronglight unit from Peter White. I was shocked how much smother it 
is. This got me thinking about replacing the same Shimano unit on my Gus 
that only has about 1,600 miles use. One of the IRD higher end units 
(UN-95?) came up for sale here in the proper spindle width (122.5) that 
caught my eye. It is a 68mm unit but those conversion cups would take care 
of that. However I am still confused by the Riv suggestion that you need a 
bb with the driveside spacer or offset spindle. As in, is it sufficient to 
get a bb with a 122-123 spindle or does it have to be offset. I am guessing 
this all has to do with chainline & chainring clearance particularly with 
wider tires?
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 22, 2024, at 11:42 PM, R. Alexis  wrote:

Looking at IRD website the IRD Quad has a 73mm conversion cups and a 
conversion washer to change the 68 to a 73. Bottom brackets without a 
shoulder can be mounted to work with both 68 and 73mm bottom brackets. The 
bottom bracket would fit further in the shell. I did this with a TruVativ  
Powerspline bottom bracket. Had the shoulder machined off the 68mm driver 
side to fit further in the 73mm bottom bracket. The person that took it to 
have it machined didn't know to leave the tool mounting splines. I ended up 
putting spanner pins in to install. 


Does the current spindle length work and fit for your use? Do both the arms 
and chainring clear sufficiently? Are you changing cranks? 

I know that on my SunTour cranks with 110/74 BCD and 175mm length I think 
they specify possibly a 125 or 127mm spindle, but 122.5mm spindles have fit 
fine on my bikes. Only bike using 127mm is the Schwinn High Plains 
Aluminum. 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis

On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 3:20:18 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, now I feel stupid. I did not scroll enough. Riv does indeed sell 73mm 
bottom brackets & one of them has the 2.5 drive side spacer. I presume that 
one is offered for the Gus/Susie frames. I still don’t see how one of the 
IRD bb could work at only 68mm.
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 22, 2024, at 3:12 PM, Garth  wrote:



I see their web catalog explanations are as clear as mud ! Maybe that's why 
they couldn't convey it to you either. They have 73mm UN55's but no 
explanations, only this...

113, 118

122.5 x 73, 48.8 chainline

123, B23X, Right +2.5mm
sigh . 

This can't work for the Silver crank on a Susie ? 
Well WHY ?  simple question ... -:)

Just being honest, I tend not to want to deal with people that aren't able 
to give clear answers to my direct questions, or don't have the wits to ask 
me to clarify the questions, to be more specific to get a more specific 
answer. "Explain so a child can understand it" never seems to fail. "Why ?" 
can never be asked enough as far as I'm concerned. So to all those 
inquisitives asking repeatedly WHY ?.I tip my hat to you in 
gratitude Y-Not ! 

I can't give you a specific answer about your crank/bb as much as I may 
wish to as I'm not a mind reader seeing things as they do. I have a stock 
of various length cartridges on hand and a bag of various spacers and I 
play around with the combo that suits where I want the crank to be in 
relation to the frame. Why ? :-) Because someone can "recommend" a certain 
setup and it be perfect from their perspective. That may or may not apply 
to anyone else though. It's no different that a mfr. spec'ing a certain 

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus /Susie bottom bracket -which one?

[Richard Rose]

Kim, I do have it & will dig it up tomorrow. By the way, my Shimano bb felt fine until I removed the crank & spun the bottom bracket by hand. It was not “crunchy” as others have described. It was stiff though & felt kind of “notchy”, almost indexed. I had put almost 7,000 miles on it so figured now was the time. The new one is really smooth.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 23, 2024, at 10:46 PM, Kim H.  wrote:@Richard -Do you know of the model serial number of the Stronglight BB that you bought from Peter White Cycles for your Clem ? ... providing that you have not changed up your stock SILVER double 34/24T rings and spindle length.From the information that you have shared, I am concerned about my BB on my Clem not being buttery smooth from the stock Shimano BB and having perhaps a lot of drag.Thank-you.Kim Hetzel. On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 7:09:08 AM UTC-8 Richard Rose wrote:Thanks Regi. The BB I have on the Gus does work fine. I recently replaced the Shimano BB on my Clem (it felt very stiff) after 7,000 miles of service with a Stronglight unit from Peter White. I was shocked how much smother it is. This got me thinking about replacing the same Shimano unit on my Gus that only has about 1,600 miles use. One of the IRD higher end units (UN-95?) came up for sale here in the proper spindle width (122.5) that caught my eye. It is a 68mm unit but those conversion cups would take care of that. However I am still confused by the Riv suggestion that you need a bb with the driveside spacer or offset spindle. As in, is it sufficient to get a bb with a 122-123 spindle or does it have to be offset. I am guessing this all has to do with chainline & chainring clearance particularly with wider tires?Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 22, 2024, at 11:42 PM, R. Alexis  wrote:Looking at IRD website the IRD Quad has a 73mm conversion cups and a conversion washer to change the 68 to a 73. Bottom brackets without a shoulder can be mounted to work with both 68 and 73mm bottom brackets. The bottom bracket would fit further in the shell. I did this with a TruVativ  Powerspline bottom bracket. Had the shoulder machined off the 68mm driver side to fit further in the 73mm bottom bracket. The person that took it to have it machined didn't know to leave the tool mounting splines. I ended up putting spanner pins in to install. Does the current spindle length work and fit for your use? Do both the arms and chainring clear sufficiently? Are you changing cranks? I know that on my SunTour cranks with 110/74 BCD and 175mm length I think they specify possibly a 125 or 127mm spindle, but 122.5mm spindles have fit fine on my bikes. Only bike using 127mm is the Schwinn High Plains Aluminum. Thanks,Reginald AlexisOn Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 3:20:18 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Well, now I feel stupid. I did not scroll enough. Riv does indeed sell 73mm bottom brackets & one of them has the 2.5 drive side spacer. I presume that one is offered for the Gus/Susie frames. I still don’t see how one of the IRD bb could work at only 68mm.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 22, 2024, at 3:12 PM, Garth  wrote:I see their web catalog explanations are as clear as mud ! Maybe that's why they couldn't convey it to you either. They have 73mm UN55's but no explanations, only this...113, 118
122.5 x 73, 48.8 chainline
123, B23X, Right +2.5mmsigh . This can't work for the Silver crank on a Susie ? Well WHY ?  simple question ... -:)Just being honest, I tend not to want to deal with people that aren't able to give clear answers to my direct questions, or don't have the wits to ask me to clarify the questions, to be more specific to get a more specific answer. "Explain so a child can understand it" never seems to fail. "Why ?" can never be asked enough as far as I'm concerned. So to all those inquisitives asking repeatedly WHY ?.I tip my hat to you in gratitude Y-Not ! I can't give you a specific answer about your crank/bb as much as I may wish to as I'm not a mind reader seeing things as they do. I have a stock of various length cartridges on hand and a bag of various spacers and I play around with the combo that suits where I want the crank to be in relation to the frame. Why ? :-) Because someone can "recommend" a certain setup and it be perfect from their perspective. That may or may not apply to anyone else though. It's no different that a mfr. spec'ing a certain spindle or chainline. It's proper from their perspective setting up, but doesn't apply to all the various possibilities otherwise. It is what it is let it go and do what you gotta do.. always with a smile . On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 1:14:10 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:I asked about this when I bought my Gus and got no conclusive answers. I really did not get a conclusive answer from Riv either. When I ordered a bunch of components from Riv for my Gus build the answer I got about what BB to get went something like " we will look into 

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus /Susie bottom bracket -which one?

[Kim H.]

@Richard -

Do you know of the model serial number of the Stronglight BB that you 
bought from Peter White Cycles for your Clem ? ... providing that you have 
not changed up your stock SILVER double 34/24T rings and spindle length.

>From the information that you have shared, I am concerned about my BB on my 
Clem not being buttery smooth from the stock Shimano BB and having perhaps 
a lot of drag.

Thank-you.
Kim Hetzel. 



On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 7:09:08 AM UTC-8 Richard Rose wrote:

> Thanks Regi. The BB I have on the Gus does work fine. I recently replaced 
> the Shimano BB on my Clem (it felt very stiff) after 7,000 miles of service 
> with a Stronglight unit from Peter White. I was shocked how much smother it 
> is. This got me thinking about replacing the same Shimano unit on my Gus 
> that only has about 1,600 miles use. One of the IRD higher end units 
> (UN-95?) came up for sale here in the proper spindle width (122.5) that 
> caught my eye. It is a 68mm unit but those conversion cups would take care 
> of that. However I am still confused by the Riv suggestion that you need a 
> bb with the driveside spacer or offset spindle. As in, is it sufficient to 
> get a bb with a 122-123 spindle or does it have to be offset. I am guessing 
> this all has to do with chainline & chainring clearance particularly with 
> wider tires?
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 22, 2024, at 11:42 PM, R. Alexis  wrote:
>
> Looking at IRD website the IRD Quad has a 73mm conversion cups and a 
> conversion washer to change the 68 to a 73. Bottom brackets without a 
> shoulder can be mounted to work with both 68 and 73mm bottom brackets. The 
> bottom bracket would fit further in the shell. I did this with a TruVativ  
> Powerspline bottom bracket. Had the shoulder machined off the 68mm driver 
> side to fit further in the 73mm bottom bracket. The person that took it to 
> have it machined didn't know to leave the tool mounting splines. I ended up 
> putting spanner pins in to install. 
>
>
> Does the current spindle length work and fit for your use? Do both the 
> arms and chainring clear sufficiently? Are you changing cranks? 
>
> I know that on my SunTour cranks with 110/74 BCD and 175mm length I think 
> they specify possibly a 125 or 127mm spindle, but 122.5mm spindles have fit 
> fine on my bikes. Only bike using 127mm is the Schwinn High Plains 
> Aluminum. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 3:20:18 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Well, now I feel stupid. I did not scroll enough. Riv does indeed sell 
>> 73mm bottom brackets & one of them has the 2.5 drive side spacer. I presume 
>> that one is offered for the Gus/Susie frames. I still don’t see how one of 
>> the IRD bb could work at only 68mm.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2024, at 3:12 PM, Garth  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I see their web catalog explanations are as clear as mud ! Maybe that's 
>> why they couldn't convey it to you either. They have 73mm UN55's but no 
>> explanations, only this...
>>
>> 113, 118
>>
>> 122.5 x 73, 48.8 chainline
>>
>> 123, B23X, Right +2.5mm
>> sigh . 
>>
>> This can't work for the Silver crank on a Susie ? 
>> Well WHY ?  simple question ... -:)
>>
>> Just being honest, I tend not to want to deal with people that aren't 
>> able to give clear answers to my direct questions, or don't have the wits 
>> to ask me to clarify the questions, to be more specific to get a more 
>> specific answer. "Explain so a child can understand it" never seems to 
>> fail. "Why ?" can never be asked enough as far as I'm concerned. So to all 
>> those inquisitives asking repeatedly WHY ?.I tip my hat to you in 
>> gratitude Y-Not ! 
>>
>> I can't give you a specific answer about your crank/bb as much as I may 
>> wish to as I'm not a mind reader seeing things as they do. I have a stock 
>> of various length cartridges on hand and a bag of various spacers and I 
>> play around with the combo that suits where I want the crank to be in 
>> relation to the frame. Why ? :-) Because someone can "recommend" a certain 
>> setup and it be perfect from their perspective. That may or may not apply 
>> to anyone else though. It's no different that a mfr. spec'ing a certain 
>> spindle or chainline. It's proper from their perspective setting up, but 
>> doesn't apply to all the various possibilities otherwise. It is what it 
>> is let it go and do what you gotta do.. always with a smile . 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 1:14:10 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I asked about this when I bought my Gus and got no conclusive answers. I 
>>> really did not get a conclusive answer from Riv either. When I ordered a 
>>> bunch of components from Riv for my Gus build the answer I got about what 
>>> BB to get went something like " we will look into it and send you the right 
>>> one". The one I got does work but the box it came in does not give me the 
>>> 

[RBW] WTB 50cm Roadini

[Chris Fly]

Hey all, still searching for a 50cm Roadini.. I know I can still get a new 
frameset, but hoping to get in with a bit cheaper route.. frameset or 
complete.. 

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: fs 54.5 atlantis complete w lots of extras

[Chasen Smith]

I gotta take my credit , that was actually me w the housing haha! Thank you!

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 8:46 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
kaiviers...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Nice bike, good price. At first I was confused by what I saw at the front
> brake area, but after some figuring I’m really liking what King Kog did
> with that floating
> bit of housing next to the front bag. Smart slidey!
> If only it were a 68…
> Good luck with the sale
> -Kai
>
> On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 1:15:11 PM UTC-5 chasenl...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-atlantis-545/7720282826.html
>>
>> riv ppl in nyc i am selling my bike cause i made it too perfect and i
>> never wanna ride it.
>> local only pls.
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[RBW] Re: fs 54.5 atlantis complete w lots of extras

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Nice bike, good price. At first I was confused by what I saw at the front 
brake area, but after some figuring I’m really liking what King Kog did 
with that floating  
bit of housing next to the front bag. Smart slidey! 
If only it were a 68…
Good luck with the sale
-Kai

On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 1:15:11 PM UTC-5 chasenl...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>
> https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-atlantis-545/7720282826.html
>
> riv ppl in nyc i am selling my bike cause i made it too perfect and i 
> never wanna ride it.
> local only pls.
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: 59cm Clem H "Hillibike" with Jones, Thomson, Shimano XT, etc.

[Jeremy Till]

Bump! New bike for the weekend?

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 12:45:33 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:

> Dang what a great deal, cheers fellow Sacramentan. 
> (If you part it out I am interested in the stem-Liz) 
>
> On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:39, Jeremy Till  wrote:
>
> I've got some exciting adventures on the horizon that would be best 
> suited to having a slightly different bike in my stable, so I've decided to 
> part ways (amicably) with my first-gen (2016) 59cm Clem Smith Jr, in the 
> no-longer-available "H-type." This has been a great bike that I've really 
> enjoyed riding, but I don't do it enough and I'm excited to pass it on to 
> someone who will enjoy it.  
>
>
> Not to toot my own horn, but I was riding hillibikes before they were 
> cool, or at least before Grant had thought up the term. When I bought this 
> in 2016, I was mountain biking a lot and built this up from the start as a 
> rim brake mountain bike, using things like wide, tubeless compatible rims, 
> strong V-brakes, and trigger shifters. When VO brought out their 31.8mm 
> quill stem in 2017 it got 710mm Jones Loop bars, which really tied the 
> whole thing together, and that has been the basic setup with relatively 
> minor modifications since then. 
>
> Overall it's in good shape, never been crashed (that I can remember), and 
> I've proactively replaced consumable parts before they've worn out. There's 
> a couple of places where the green paint has chipped exposing the white 
> primer below. Pictures are here . The 
> build: 
>
> Frame/fork: 59cm Clem H, Green. Geometry here 
> 
> Headset: FSA Duron
> Wheels: Prototype Rivendell "Silver" hubs, laced to Velocity Cliffhangers 
> (700c/29") with 36 double butted spokes each. Currently running ~1 year old 
> Specialized Fast Trak 2.2" tires with tubes. Rims are tubeless compatible, 
> but the rim tape is the original from when I built it up in 2016 so it 
> could probably use a refresh if you are going to try to run them tubeless. 
> Handlebars: Jones 710mm Loop H-Bar, butted aluminum, Jones Kraton grips 
> Stem: Velo-Orange Removable Faceplate Quill Stem, 90mm
> Seatpost: Thomson Elite (zero setback)
> Saddle: Will come with a WTB Pure (pictured with WTB Deva), or will sell 
> sans saddle
> Brake Levers: Shimano Deore "touring" (BL-T611)
> Brakes: Shimano XT v-brakes
> Shifter: Shimano Sora 9spd Rapidfire w/ two-way release
> Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT 9spd "Shadow" (RD-M772)
> (No front shifter or derailleur)
> Cranks: CODA-Branded Sugino 94/58mm BCD, 175mm, square taper w/ 36-22 
> Dimension 9spd alloy chainrings
> Bottom Bracket: sealed cartridge unit, 107mm, I think it's a Tange?
> Pedals: Shimano Saint platform pedals
> Cassette: Shimano XT 9spd, 11-34
> Chain: SRAM PC 991
>
> Sale does not include the King Iris bottle cages pictured. 
>
> Craigslist price is $1,600, happy to sell to a list member for $1,400. I'm 
> in Sacramento, CA and would prefer a local sale, but if you're elsewhere 
> and are willing to pay for boxing and shipping, let me know. 
>
> -Jeremy Till
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

[Jay]

Love these photos, and the contrasts in builds.  I have a Roadini (2 weeks 
old)...maybe a Sam will be in my future.

On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 11:01:56 AM UTC-5 Cal Patterson wrote:

> Here's mine in a light snow last fall.  2x9, fendered 42's.  Love the 
> upside down Billie bars.  It is such a great ride, handles like a dream.
>
> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 7:37:13 AM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: 05F29C48-D89B-4E95-818C-47654DE56CBA.jpeg]
>>
>> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 12:30:19 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I like this photo from last weekend for the rustic vibes 
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2024-02-22 at 9.26.02 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday 20 February 2024 at 08:33:42 UTC-8 brianmark...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 48mm. I also had bilenky dimple the chain stays; it fit a 48 without it 
 but it was a tad close

 On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 11:30:09 AM UTC-5 Max S wrote:

> Oooh... I really like the look and the idea of this one!.. How bit a 
> 650b tire does it fit now? 
>
> - Max "wish I had friends with acetylene torches" in A2
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-5 
> brianmark...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Here’s mine, I’ve had it for two years or so. 56cm double tt, got the 
>> frame in this group, had a friend add canti bosses at 650b, and had it 
>> painted at Bilenky cycles in Philly. My favorite bike aside from my 
>> cargo 
>> bike, and I have to constantly convince myself it’s not the only bike I 
>> need. Currently in “rando” mode, but I’ve mostly had it with a basket in 
>> front and R14 in the rear. Really can do pretty much everything, and so 
>> comfortably! 
>>
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:17:00 PM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_3348.JPG]
>>> 14 years and 4 months old...best bike I've ever had.
>>> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 11:36:22 AM UTC-8 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>>
 Paul, I have a A.H. Homer for spirted mixed-surface riding. But I 
 figured I would get a 2015 (new) Sam Hillborne  for my touring needs. 
 It is 
 a bit stouter and capable for riding fully loaded, sometimes on dirt. 
 Confidence-building off road, mainly rail trails. I have it set up 
 with a 
 Nitto rear rack and a Rivendell HAR front rack. Two to four Ortlieb 
 panniers and a Sugarloaf basket bag will take me for 5-day unsupported 
 trips without worry..
 I love this bike as a dedicated tourer but often pull the rear rack 
 for local riding. I find the mustache bars with the 100mm stem allows 
 for 
 "stretching out" on longer days in the saddle. 
 I'm outfitted with 35mm tires because of the VO fenders, which I 
 find very helpful for mid-Atlantic and mid-West multi-day touring. I'd 
 love 
 to try it on the C Towpath with wider rubber, but would miss the 
 comfort 
 that fenders give.
 Here's my "Tuxedo Sam":
 [image: IMG_8012.jpeg] 

 Also:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/53503542529/in/dateposted-public/

 Paul Germain
 Midlothian, Va.
 On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 1:24:03 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> Here are some pictures of my Hillborne, 2020 model in "Dark Gold" 
> with Cantilever bosses and the seatstay "socket" lug.
> I purchased the frame new through Golden Pliers here in PDX and 
> built it up myself, including wheels.
> Build notes:
> Wheels - Rear White Industries T11 hub, front SON Dyno hub, 32h 
> laced with Sapim butted spokes to Velocity Dyed rims, currently 
> running 
> Panaracer Pasela Protite 650b x 42 tires with silver Velo Orange Wavy 
> fenders.
>
> Drivetrain - 2 x 9 with 170 Sugino XD2 triple crank with homemade 
> bashguard on outer ring, 38 x 24 middle/inner rings & 11-34 cassette, 
> shifted by Microshift thumbies,  Ultegra front and rear derailleurs 
> Jagwire 
> gold braided cable housing.
>
> Cockpit - Bosco bars and Nitto 130mm faceplate quill stem, 
> harlequin wrapped with orange and yellow Newbaums and a few coats of 
> clear 
> shellac. Paul Components orange Love Levers pulling Paul Motolite 
> brakes, 
> ESI silicone grips, Spurcycle limited-edition bell with orange 
> striker.
>
> Racks & Bags - Wald 137 basket mounted to Nitto Mark's rack with 
> Marigold Outershell basketbag and limited edition Swift 
> Industries/Camp and 
> Go Slow Sideaddladdlebagkick stem pouch. Matching Zeitgeist saddlebag 
> supported by rear-mounted Nitto M18  rack.
>
> Flickr album here: 

Re: [RBW] Re: Also ISO/WTT/WTB Shimano type 10 sp cassette with 14 small cog and 25, 26, 27, 28 big cog

[Patrick Moore]

I just ordered 3 of the Tiagras at $32.99; Peter has 3 left so here's you
chance! Note: he also has 9 (and10?) sp Ultegra and 10 sp (??) DA 14-25s
but for a lot more money.

Apparently the advantage of the Tiagras is that Shimano doesn't bother with
a spider so yes, you can drill them out and replace the spacers with 10
speed ones.

I'll order the spacers and a Miche 28 from the LBS who are building the
wheel; also have XT hub from Universal and a SP from a private source
on-way.

Thanks all.


On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 8:55 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I see that PJ White has Ultegra14-25 10 speed cassettes but they're $120.
> For that price I'll try getting Miche cogs to order plus spacers. He also
> sells a 9 speed Tiagra for $32 [14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23-25].
>
> That might work with the addition of a 28. Am I right in assuming that
> with such close-ratio cassettes all the cogs are hub-mounted instead of
> spider-mounted?
>
> Can anyone say how well Tiagra cogs wear compared to higher-end ones?
>
> PJW sells the same 9 sp cassette [14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23-25] in the
> Ultegra flavor, but it's $100: what do you get for the additional $68? More
> mileage?
>
> Thanks.
>

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[RBW] FS - Phil Hub, TA Crank, Shimano R400 Levers, DA 9s Cassette, Nitto Pearl Stem

[Huston]

Greetings.  For your consideration: a varied lot of parts/accessories that 
should appeal to the group.

1) Shimano BL-R400 brake levers (Tiagra/Sora) – Levers and hoods are in 
excellent condition.  No cables or housing.  $35.00.

 2) Dia-Compe (Gran Compe) Ene Ciclo roller cable hanger.  This is the 
pulley version.  New in packaging.  These are tough to find.  $25.00 each 
or $40.00 for the pair.

 3) Shimano Dura Ace CS-7700 9 speed 12-25 cassette.  Cogs are 
12-13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25.  Includes spacers and lockring.  $35.00.

4) Nitto Pearl 11 (NP) quill stem - 26.0mm.  Older version of the Pearl.  
There are some light markings below the minimum insertion line.  $50.00.

5) Shimano 105 (RD-5500) 9 speed long cage rear derailleur.  Very good 
condition.  $50.00.

6) Phil Wood rear hub.  Not sure if this is the exact version that 
Rivendell used to sell, but it's 130mm and threaded for a freewheel.  Laced 
and ridden but still in excellent condition.  $150.00.

7) TA Specialites Zephyr triple crank arms. 175mm.  You can run either a 
110/74 or a 110/56 BCD.  A 74 inner will let you run down to a 24 tooth 
chainring while the 56 inner will let you run a 22 or 20 tooth chainring.  I 
have the dust caps somewhere and will include them. Light markings.  The 
drive side extractor threads are not the best, but I gently worked them 
with the puller tool and managed to get the arm off the spindle.  $200.00.

Pictures are available here 
.
 
 Payment via PayPal.  Prices do not include shipping via UPS.  Please send 
a PM if you are interested or have questions.  I will update list as items 
move.

Thanks for looking!

Huston
Lexington, KY

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Re: [RBW] Re: Also ISO/WTT/WTB Shimano type 10 sp cassette with 14 small cog and 25, 26, 27, 28 big cog

[Bill Lindsay]

100% hits!  That sounds perfect

BL in EC

On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 8:16:32 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Here's one for $11.48:
>
> 100% Hits Volume 14 in Volume.25 Case CASSETTE TAPE
> Opens in a new window or tab 
> 
> Pre-Owned
> C $11.48
> Top Rated SellerTop Rated Seller
> Buy It Now
> handheldfun2009 (18,055) 99.7%
> +C $26.51 shipping
> from Australia
>
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:15 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Ebay. Why yes, I've shopped there before. Will look; thanks. 
>>
>> [A few minutes later.] Scolled through several dozen but all either 
>> priced higher than PJW's Tiagras or "pre-owned."
>>
>> Do you (all) know what makes the Ultegra better than the Tiagra?
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who hates scrolling through too many choices.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:06 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> I run an Ultegra 14-25 on Bambi and have one spare also Ultegra, in the 
>>> box.  I bought a spare because I perceived them as having gone out of 
>>> production.  Because of your post I went to eBay to find a nice used one.  
>>> I found one listed for $29 or best offer.  I offered $25 and it was 
>>> accepted.  So now I'll have a new 14-25, a new spare as well as a used 
>>> spare.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 7:55:48 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 I see that PJ White has Ultegra14-25 10 speed cassettes but they're 
 $120. For that price I'll try getting Miche cogs to order plus spacers. He 
 also sells a 9 speed Tiagra for $32 [14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23-25].

 That might work with the addition of a 28. Am I right in assuming that 
 with such close-ratio cassettes all the cogs are hub-mounted instead of 
 spider-mounted?

 Can anyone say how well Tiagra cogs wear compared to higher-end ones?

 PJW sells the same 9 sp cassette [14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23-25] in the 
 Ultegra flavor, but it's $100: what do you get for the additional $68? 
 More 
 mileage?

 Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Spring FS Post - Cranks, BB, Seatpost, Handlebars, Nitto Rack, Wool

[Michael Ullmer]

IRD BB is sold, open to offers on remaining items.

On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 11:33:58 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Update with sold items and price drops:
>
> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $45
> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer need 
> though. Still buttery smooth.
>
> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $30
> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
> Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise.
>
> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $35
> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>
> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 BB 
> - $50
> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>
> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - SOLD
> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
> for measurements.
>
> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - SOLD
> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color 
> with yellow/red striping.
>
> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $90
> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:15:57 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> PM sent on bottom bracket.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2024, at 8:11 AM, Mike Ullmer  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Continuing to clean out the unnecessaries. All prices don't include 
>> shipping, but will be shipped via Pirateship:
>>
>> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $50
>> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer 
>> need though. Still buttery smooth.
>>
>> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $35
>> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
>> Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise. 
>>
>> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $40
>> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
>> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
>> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>>
>> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 
>> BB - $60
>> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
>> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
>> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>>
>> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - $50
>> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
>> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
>> for measurements.
>>
>> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - $50
>> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
>> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color 
>> with yellow/red striping.
>>
>> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $100
>> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/KxSdnsek27UuM9Ka8
>>
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Also ISO/WTT/WTB Shimano type 10 sp cassette with 14 small cog and 25, 26, 27, 28 big cog

[Patrick Moore]

Here's one for $11.48:

100% Hits Volume 14 in Volume.25 Case CASSETTE TAPE
Opens in a new window or tab

Pre-Owned
C $11.48
Top Rated SellerTop Rated Seller
Buy It Now
handheldfun2009 (18,055) 99.7%
+C $26.51 shipping
from Australia

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:15 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Ebay. Why yes, I've shopped there before. Will look; thanks.
>
> [A few minutes later.] Scolled through several dozen but all either priced
> higher than PJW's Tiagras or "pre-owned."
>
> Do you (all) know what makes the Ultegra better than the Tiagra?
>
> Patrick Moore, who hates scrolling through too many choices.
>
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:06 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> I run an Ultegra 14-25 on Bambi and have one spare also Ultegra, in the
>> box.  I bought a spare because I perceived them as having gone out of
>> production.  Because of your post I went to eBay to find a nice used one.
>> I found one listed for $29 or best offer.  I offered $25 and it was
>> accepted.  So now I'll have a new 14-25, a new spare as well as a used
>> spare.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 7:55:48 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I see that PJ White has Ultegra14-25 10 speed cassettes but they're
>>> $120. For that price I'll try getting Miche cogs to order plus spacers. He
>>> also sells a 9 speed Tiagra for $32 [14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23-25].
>>>
>>> That might work with the addition of a 28. Am I right in assuming that
>>> with such close-ratio cassettes all the cogs are hub-mounted instead of
>>> spider-mounted?
>>>
>>> Can anyone say how well Tiagra cogs wear compared to higher-end ones?
>>>
>>> PJW sells the same 9 sp cassette [14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23-25] in the
>>> Ultegra flavor, but it's $100: what do you get for the additional $68? More
>>> mileage?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Also ISO/WTT/WTB Shimano type 10 sp cassette with 14 small cog and 25, 26, 27, 28 big cog

[Patrick Moore]

Ebay. Why yes, I've shopped there before. Will look; thanks.

[A few minutes later.] Scolled through several dozen but all either priced
higher than PJW's Tiagras or "pre-owned."

Do you (all) know what makes the Ultegra better than the Tiagra?

Patrick Moore, who hates scrolling through too many choices.

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:06 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I run an Ultegra 14-25 on Bambi and have one spare also Ultegra, in the
> box.  I bought a spare because I perceived them as having gone out of
> production.  Because of your post I went to eBay to find a nice used one.
> I found one listed for $29 or best offer.  I offered $25 and it was
> accepted.  So now I'll have a new 14-25, a new spare as well as a used
> spare.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 7:55:48 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I see that PJ White has Ultegra14-25 10 speed cassettes but they're $120.
>> For that price I'll try getting Miche cogs to order plus spacers. He also
>> sells a 9 speed Tiagra for $32 [14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23-25].
>>
>> That might work with the addition of a 28. Am I right in assuming that
>> with such close-ratio cassettes all the cogs are hub-mounted instead of
>> spider-mounted?
>>
>> Can anyone say how well Tiagra cogs wear compared to higher-end ones?
>>
>> PJW sells the same 9 sp cassette [14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23-25] in the
>> Ultegra flavor, but it's $100: what do you get for the additional $68? More
>> mileage?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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[RBW] Re: PSA: REI "Microlite" insulated stainless steel water bottles with full cover over spout

[Patrick Moore]

Forgot to add: It's a wee bit wider than your standard plastic waterbottle
but it does fit in King Iris cages and in Profile and Specialized
side-mount plastic cages. [I've got some even nicer ss insulated bottles
with better-made full-cover lids but alas those are too *narrow* and rattle
in Irises even with many wrappings of electrician's tape. But those do work
in the Profile and Specialized cages. Sorry, don't recall the brand but I
think I got them on Am*z*n.]

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:04 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> It's hard to find water bottles with lids that cover the entire drinking
> area but this is one and it's a particularly nice on. And it's on sale.
>
> The only defect is that the locking mech is all plastic, but mine have
> held up well for 5+ years. It does keep beverages hot for a few hours in
> cold temps, at least in the ~30 to 40 degree range.
>
>
> https://www.rei.com/product/232074/gsi-outdoors-microlite-720-flip-vacuum-water-bottle-24-fl-oz
>
> BTW, if anyone knows where to find regular uninsulated plastic
> waterbottles with the full-cover flip-up lid, please let me know. They used
> to be quite common but I've not been able to find any recently and I'm down
> to my last one. I use these in warmer weather.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Also ISO/WTT/WTB Shimano type 10 sp cassette with 14 small cog and 25, 26, 27, 28 big cog

[Bill Lindsay]

I run an Ultegra 14-25 on Bambi and have one spare also Ultegra, in the 
box.  I bought a spare because I perceived them as having gone out of 
production.  Because of your post I went to eBay to find a nice used one. 
 I found one listed for $29 or best offer.  I offered $25 and it was 
accepted.  So now I'll have a new 14-25, a new spare as well as a used 
spare.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 7:55:48 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I see that PJ White has Ultegra14-25 10 speed cassettes but they're $120. 
> For that price I'll try getting Miche cogs to order plus spacers. He also 
> sells a 9 speed Tiagra for $32 [14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23-25].
>
> That might work with the addition of a 28. Am I right in assuming that 
> with such close-ratio cassettes all the cogs are hub-mounted instead of 
> spider-mounted?
>
> Can anyone say how well Tiagra cogs wear compared to higher-end ones?
>
> PJW sells the same 9 sp cassette [14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23-25] in the 
> Ultegra flavor, but it's $100: what do you get for the additional $68? More 
> mileage?
>
> Thanks.
>

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[RBW] PSA: REI "Microlite" insulated stainless steel water bottles with full cover over spout

[Patrick Moore]

It's hard to find water bottles with lids that cover the entire drinking
area but this is one and it's a particularly nice on. And it's on sale.

The only defect is that the locking mech is all plastic, but mine have held
up well for 5+ years. It does keep beverages hot for a few hours in cold
temps, at least in the ~30 to 40 degree range.

https://www.rei.com/product/232074/gsi-outdoors-microlite-720-flip-vacuum-water-bottle-24-fl-oz

BTW, if anyone knows where to find regular uninsulated plastic waterbottles
with the full-cover flip-up lid, please let me know. They used to be quite
common but I've not been able to find any recently and I'm down to my last
one. I use these in warmer weather.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Also ISO/WTT/WTB Shimano type 10 sp cassette with 14 small cog and 25, 26, 27, 28 big cog

[Patrick Moore]

I see that PJ White has Ultegra14-25 10 speed cassettes but they're $120.
For that price I'll try getting Miche cogs to order plus spacers. He also
sells a 9 speed Tiagra for $32 [14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23-25].

That might work with the addition of a 28. Am I right in assuming that with
such close-ratio cassettes all the cogs are hub-mounted instead of
spider-mounted?

Can anyone say how well Tiagra cogs wear compared to higher-end ones?

PJW sells the same 9 sp cassette [14-15-16-17-18-19-21-23-25] in the
Ultegra flavor, but it's $100: what do you get for the additional $68? More
mileage?

Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Also ISO/WTT/WTB Shimano type 10 sp cassette with 14 small cog and 25, 26, 27, 28 big cog

[Patrick Moore]

This is what I have in mind. I can't find a 14-25 or so ready-made cassette
online, but I've seen them listed somewhere before; can anyone point me to
"Junior racing" cassettes?

Thanks.

60 MM 29.5"
  44 28
14 93
15 87
16 81
17 76 49
18 72 46
19 68 43
21 62 39
23 56 36
25 52 33
28 46 30

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 8:32 AM Russell Duncan  wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> Like you, I’m also a fan of Miche cassettes because of the ability to
> customize their gear ratios with all 10 cogs being loose. They make a good
> product, and I also look for a high gear of no less than 14 teeth.
>
> Russell Duncan
> Leverett, MA
>
> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 12:12:23 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Reginald, but I'm looking for a 10 sp cassette with a 14-tooth
>> small cog and close ratios and a big cog under 30 teeth. I'm pretty sure
>> Shimano makes these -- for junior racing? -- including a close ratio
>> 14-something [and even a close ratio 15-something] but I'd have to modify
>> it in any event so I'd need one with separate "big" cogs, ie not attached
>> to a spider.
>>
>> I'll probably just order from a Miche cog smorgasbord so that I can
>> choose those that I need.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 10:07 PM R. Alexis  wrote:
>>
>>> PM sent.
>>>
>>> I have two SRAM PG 1070 10 speed cassettes. One 12-25 and one 12-27.
>>>
>>> 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 19, 21, 24, 27
>>>
>>> 12, 13, 14, 15, 15, 17, 19, 21, 23, 25
>>>
>>> Last 3 cogs on each are attached to a spider.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you are interested. I may have some individual cogs I can
>>> dig through.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Reginald Alexis
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 2:06:11 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 I know that Shimano makes 14-20-something 10 speed cassettes; I want
 something I can modify to, say (need not be exactly so)
 14-15-16-17-18-19-20-22-24-27 or ... 21-23-27 or ... 28. Will use no cog
 larger than a 28.

 Please reply offlist.

 Thanks.




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Re: [RBW] Re: Also ISO/WTT/WTB Shimano type 10 sp cassette with 14 small cog and 25, 26, 27, 28 big cog

[Russell Duncan]

Patrick,

Like you, I’m also a fan of Miche cassettes because of the ability to 
customize their gear ratios with all 10 cogs being loose. They make a good 
product, and I also look for a high gear of no less than 14 teeth. 

Russell Duncan
Leverett, MA

On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 12:12:23 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, Reginald, but I'm looking for a 10 sp cassette with a 14-tooth 
> small cog and close ratios and a big cog under 30 teeth. I'm pretty sure 
> Shimano makes these -- for junior racing? -- including a close ratio 
> 14-something [and even a close ratio 15-something] but I'd have to modify 
> it in any event so I'd need one with separate "big" cogs, ie not attached 
> to a spider.
>
> I'll probably just order from a Miche cog smorgasbord so that I can choose 
> those that I need.
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 10:07 PM R. Alexis  wrote:
>
>> PM sent. 
>>
>> I have two SRAM PG 1070 10 speed cassettes. One 12-25 and one 12-27. 
>>
>> 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 19, 21, 24, 27
>>
>> 12, 13, 14, 15, 15, 17, 19, 21, 23, 25
>>
>> Last 3 cogs on each are attached to a spider.
>>
>> Let me know if you are interested. I may have some individual cogs I can 
>> dig through. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Reginald Alexis 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 2:06:11 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I know that Shimano makes 14-20-something 10 speed cassettes; I want 
>>> something I can modify to, say (need not be exactly so) 
>>> 14-15-16-17-18-19-20-22-24-27 or ... 21-23-27 or ... 28. Will use no cog 
>>> larger than a 28.
>>>
>>> Please reply offlist.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus /Susie bottom bracket -which one?

[Richard Rose]

Thanks Regi. The BB I have on the Gus does work fine. I recently replaced the Shimano BB on my Clem (it felt very stiff) after 7,000 miles of service with a Stronglight unit from Peter White. I was shocked how much smother it is. This got me thinking about replacing the same Shimano unit on my Gus that only has about 1,600 miles use. One of the IRD higher end units (UN-95?) came up for sale here in the proper spindle width (122.5) that caught my eye. It is a 68mm unit but those conversion cups would take care of that. However I am still confused by the Riv suggestion that you need a bb with the driveside spacer or offset spindle. As in, is it sufficient to get a bb with a 122-123 spindle or does it have to be offset. I am guessing this all has to do with chainline & chainring clearance particularly with wider tires?Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 22, 2024, at 11:42 PM, R. Alexis  wrote:Looking at IRD website the IRD Quad has a 73mm conversion cups and a conversion washer to change the 68 to a 73. Bottom brackets without a shoulder can be mounted to work with both 68 and 73mm bottom brackets. The bottom bracket would fit further in the shell. I did this with a TruVativ  Powerspline bottom bracket. Had the shoulder machined off the 68mm driver side to fit further in the 73mm bottom bracket. The person that took it to have it machined didn't know to leave the tool mounting splines. I ended up putting spanner pins in to install. Does the current spindle length work and fit for your use? Do both the arms and chainring clear sufficiently? Are you changing cranks? I know that on my SunTour cranks with 110/74 BCD and 175mm length I think they specify possibly a 125 or 127mm spindle, but 122.5mm spindles have fit fine on my bikes. Only bike using 127mm is the Schwinn High Plains Aluminum. Thanks,Reginald AlexisOn Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 3:20:18 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Well, now I feel stupid. I did not scroll enough. Riv does indeed sell 73mm bottom brackets & one of them has the 2.5 drive side spacer. I presume that one is offered for the Gus/Susie frames. I still don’t see how one of the IRD bb could work at only 68mm.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 22, 2024, at 3:12 PM, Garth  wrote:I see their web catalog explanations are as clear as mud ! Maybe that's why they couldn't convey it to you either. They have 73mm UN55's but no explanations, only this...113, 118
122.5 x 73, 48.8 chainline
123, B23X, Right +2.5mmsigh . This can't work for the Silver crank on a Susie ? Well WHY ?  simple question ... -:)Just being honest, I tend not to want to deal with people that aren't able to give clear answers to my direct questions, or don't have the wits to ask me to clarify the questions, to be more specific to get a more specific answer. "Explain so a child can understand it" never seems to fail. "Why ?" can never be asked enough as far as I'm concerned. So to all those inquisitives asking repeatedly WHY ?.I tip my hat to you in gratitude Y-Not ! I can't give you a specific answer about your crank/bb as much as I may wish to as I'm not a mind reader seeing things as they do. I have a stock of various length cartridges on hand and a bag of various spacers and I play around with the combo that suits where I want the crank to be in relation to the frame. Why ? :-) Because someone can "recommend" a certain setup and it be perfect from their perspective. That may or may not apply to anyone else though. It's no different that a mfr. spec'ing a certain spindle or chainline. It's proper from their perspective setting up, but doesn't apply to all the various possibilities otherwise. It is what it is let it go and do what you gotta do.. always with a smile . On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 1:14:10 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:I asked about this when I bought my Gus and got no conclusive answers. I really did not get a conclusive answer from Riv either. When I ordered a bunch of components from Riv for my Gus build the answer I got about what BB to get went something like " we will look into it and send you the right one". The one I got does work but the box it came in does not give me the information I seek.Here are my questions. Gus and Susie have 73 shells. Riv does not list 73 bb's for sale. And they suggest which 68mm IRD one to get for your Gus/Susie - 123 width with right side spacer(?). Am I to conclude that 68mm bottom brackets work on a 73mm shell? An Tange bb has become available that is a 68mm with a 122.5 spindle. Will it work on my Gus. What about the drive side spacer?Please excuse my ignorance. I would like to upgrade my bottom bracket and really have no idea what will fit best. I gather a lot of different spindle lengths will work but not ideally?



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Re: [RBW] The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Russell Duncan]

I’m not a fan of pink but that’s one Wicked Pissah build Bill. Great choice 
of parts. I’m sure that it rides like a dream. Think Pink as the Fabulous 
Poodles said:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6rML96V66qs

Russell Duncan
North Platte River Valley, WY and Connecticut River Valley, MA
On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 12:23:31 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Even though I knew what to expect, more or less, I'm still rather blown 
> away by the final result. It came together so perfectly. This is an iconic 
> bike. 
>
> On Thursday 22 February 2024 at 17:07:02 UTC-8 Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
>> Spectacular!
>>
>> Excellent choice of components, and the ~20 lbs. for the complete build 
>> is impressive. And you can't go wrong with pink and black!
>>
>> Bob E
>> Cranford, NJ
>> On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 2:50:49 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Nobilette just put my garage photo out on his Instagram.  So now it's 
>>> really out there.  I was going to let the Riv folks do the more public 
>>> reveal, but whatev...
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 8:02:14 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I tried to politely ignore the tubing inquiry.  I didn't ask.  If I did 
 ask I'm sure they would tell me.  As far as I'm concerned it's the same as 
 the previously published numbers.  I dwell on a lot of things.  Tubing 
 diameters, butt thicknesses, butt lengths and transition zones are not 
 among those things I dwell upon.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 5:44:25 AM UTC-8 Robert Blunt wrote:

> Bill,
> This bike is gorgeous. I am not sure if you responded to the 
> inquiry about what tubeset was used but I would be interested to know. 
> This 
> thing is simply stunning and I am all about the pink bike . I had a pink 
> Bates with diadrant forks at one time which was super cool. Picture 
> attached (file might be too big.
> Best,
> Robert Blunt
> Pennington, NJ
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 11:27 PM Bill Lindsay  
> wrote:
>
>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>
>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  
>> Legolas fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>
>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  
>> TPU tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>
>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm 
>> bottom bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R 
>> Der, Down tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>
>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and 
>> housing.  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS 
>> brake 
>> levers (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 
>> saddle
>>
>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene 
>> Herse pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>
>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
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