ting frequently at lights and stop signs.
>>>>>> Once I
>>>>>> got the B17s, I immediately found it easier to mount and dismount and
>>>>>> felt
>>>>>> no tenderness even after my first ride. I can't imagine ever riding on
>>>>>> an
Ted's remark raises an interesting question. I for one didn't think that so
very closely spaced cogs might require fine tolerances that exceed the
everyday capabilities of shift-by-cable systems, what with friction
changing with wear and dirt.
So, question: Is it generally true that above 10 speed
Oh yes, I've done that a zillion times, tho' I used small auto hose clamps.
In fact, a few years ago, I rigged up a QR wire basket (from an Office
Depot office storage system) for the rear rack on my Dahon Hon Solo. IIRC,
I clamped a wood block to the underside of the basket shaped to fit snugly
in
That front derailleur does have an exalted height above the big ring but I
gather that it shifts fine. I've left an LX fd in place when I removed the
out 46 t ring and replaced the middle 36 with a 38; the inner 24 remained.
It must have sat as high over the (now) outer 38 as yours above your outer
I've got a package of Ortlieb clear stick-on tape that they call "foil"
meant to protect painted racks from pannier hooks. Anyone who wants it is
welcome to it (you be patient and I'll pay postage).
It might work well for frame protection, but I could not get it to work
well on rack tubes.
On Wed
Patrick, why didn't it work on rack tubes? Was it not flexible?
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 2:59:05 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
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>> I've got a package of Ortlieb clear stick-on tape that they call "foil"
>> meant to protect painted racks from
can run road shifters up front and mechanical 12speed MTB in the
> back. I've also heard good things about this.
>
> I think the problems mainly come when people try to make a 1.7:1 ratio
> derailleur (like Shimano 7-8-9 speeds) work on higher numbers of cogs.
>
> On Wednesday,
I'd like to see a photo of what you have, and know what you'd charge or
what you might want in trade.
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I'm intrigued by the Legolas. Can anyone compare the ride -- handling,
"planing"? -- to the Roadeo or to the Rambouillet, or to the old Road
Standard or to an older Road Custom?
Does it have less bb drop than Rivendell road models? Does this affect
handling or feel?
What is the fattest tire that
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Late to this rather fascinating discussion. Oh no, that was no
unintentional oversight, that was a conscience in poor working order. I
have to credit the seller though for the quality of his purple prose; he
could get a good job in marketing, not just for the writing but for the
spin and the magnif
On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:52:42 PM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
> Hi all, I would like to ask you how you would choose 2 Rivendells if you
could own.
> Which models? What kind of purposes? What kind of weather? What kind of
roads? Any definition is welcome.
> I'm currently riding a Platypus and I fee
If anyone comes up with a formula for this (I know that formulas are only
starting points) I'd like to hear it. I want a wider bar on my Matthews 1
for riding narrow ditchbank trails but as soon as I get on firm straight
surfaces I hate wide bars. Perhaps there's some perfect combination of stem
le
42s,
which I think would be just fat enough as an all rounder sweet spot size
for firm dirt and pavement.
Not that I'll have a chance to test ride a Legolas, but it's nice to think
out loud.
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 11:14 AM MoVelo wrote:
> Patrick Moore asked these questions, and
Whoops, that's 4 *centimeters* ...
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:13 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> I agree that rules of thumb are only starting points. The heel-on-pedal at
> max leg extension puts my saddle a good 3 cm too low as I like a lot of leg
> extension and tend to pedal toe-do
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> Please, clarify what you mean by "best road drop bar on the market at
> least for non-brifter brake levers."
>
> I have a set of Ultegra brifters I'm wanting to install on my newly
> purchased HR Randonneur bars, as you know are similar to the Maes Parral
*and* it's
not an apparent expensive "lifestyle" or "style alone" thing as Silca's and
Chaterlea's new offerings seem to be. (But I am open to correction about
Silca and Chaterlea.)
Patrick Moore, who hedged his close-ratio 3-speed Sturmey Archer bet with a
seco
Brian: I understand and largely sympathize with your proposed 2-bike
stable, at least as to categories if not as to exact models: nice-handling
bike that can carry errand loads and is also multi-surface capable, and a
nice ss road bike, tho' for the last I'd have 2 or 3 wheels including
fixed/free
d drop it lower
but keep it higher and further than with the road bikes for more control on
sandy dirt. Might this mimic the feel of the road bikes a bit more?
Comments (polite only) welcome.
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Thanks. That might mean that the Legolas as just that extra little bit of
eagerness that I missed in my Ram (29 mm Paris Roubaix open tubulars, so
top quality tires); I daresay that's because my Riv Road customs have been
built for 559 bsd wheels which are quicker to turn because about 2 1/2"
short
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> clear.
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> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:19:30 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Tom: congratulations on the Platypus. I'd love to test ride one, set up
>> per all the Rivendellian specifications, too
>>
Ryan: it's perfectly safe to ride with a fixed cog screwed to a freewheel
hub; just don't use backpressure, or don't use it very hard. I rode
thousands of miles like this with no lockring.
But you can put Loctite on the threads too. Before I learned that red
Loctite requires heat to break the bond
I prefer fixed over ss for road riding, even though I am now down to a
single fixed gear bike. While I do love my AM (close-sh ratio: 72" 65" 56")
IGH -- I ride it like a ss with 3 ranges -- I do miss doing my mostly
flatland recreational grocery rides -- 11 to 20 loaded miles -- on a fixed
gear, a
Not to crowed Joe's questions, but this answers many of my questions about
fatbikes too; and I didn't know that there are 3.25 and 3.5 650B tires. So
thanks Keith for this detail. I've already found that no Riv can take full
3"/76 mm 700C tires, alas.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 7:06 PM iamkeith wro
Really wonderful photos. I'm very pleased that Athens is so rideable. I
haven't been there for almost 50 years since we visited an aunt on home
leave; we stayed mostly in Decatur which always struck me as a horrible
place to ride.
Curious: Is that your photography? It seems professional grade to m
Those 2 Orange Rams make me nostalgic for my blue one from some 10 years
ago; yes a very nice bike for aimless afternoon rides and with just enough
room for 32s and fenders. I rode mine with 1.35" Kojaks; it would have been
transformed with extralight RH tires. Actually, it *was* transformed with
P
Bob: Do you know how low a Q you can get on the Prospector, Scapegoat,
Chimera and Bull Thistle, particularly with a single speed drivetrain (if
any accept a ss drivetrain)? I've stayed away from Pugsleys etc because of
the Q but if one can be built as a ss with a Q of no more than 160 I'd be
very
I'd like to hear about and see photos of single-speeded or fix-ified
mountain bikes set up as all rounders. One of the nicest single
speeds/fixeds I owned, and one of the very few discarded bikes I wish I'd
kept (the others are largely ss or fixed too) was that very early '90s
Diamond Back Axis Tea
utes to take measurements?
>
> --
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>
> On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:17:49 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Bob: Do you know how low a Q you can get on the Prospector, Scapegoat,
>> Chimera and Bull Thistle, particularly with a single speed drivetrain (if
>&g
ore on the
subject. Perhaps it adds security simply by adding more threads to the
connection?
That said, again, I never had a problem with just a cog and no lockring;
and of course red Loctite will stick that cog onto the threads almost
permanently until you heat the stuff.
Patrick Moore, who did once
bars
> and a CETMA front rack. In that configuration, I toured it from Fairbanks
> to Juneau, Alaska after I finished college at the University of Alaska
> Fairbanks. It was a very nice ride and I regret that I gave it away when I
> moved overseas for a few years.
> -Wes
>
> On Th
> with about 2-3mm crank clearance. Much narrower than stock but definitely
> nowhere close to 160.
>
> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:48:43 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
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>> Thanks, Bob. Others: If any of youse have this information, would be very
>> glad to hear
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Mine was on 12/30 and described in another thread: ~12 m rt extension of a
1.8 m rt trip to the nearest Sprout's. Skipped 12/31, but rode 13 miles rt
to church and back this morning, and found that the brisk if short (~6.5m)
outbound ride at ~39*F was an excellent specific for mild overindulgence
t
Thanks, all. I think that I first combined sage green and red some 15 years
ago or so with that 2003 Curt Goodrich custom Riv Road in sage green with
cream accents after I had scored a pair of as-new but second hand set of
Ortlieb panniers in red; IIRC these were the classic rears made from woven
s
BTW, I remove the interior mesh pockets from my Ortliebs and have at least
1 pair to give away if anyone wants them. Please email me offlist at
bertin...@gmail.com if you'd like them. You pay postage.
On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 8:31 AM Patrick Moore wrote:
> Thanks, all. I think that
Conway: What about the RH Naches Pass for your XO-3? A pair will cost as
much as the bike but they give utter plushness at true 42 mm width at
~30/35 f/r under my 170 lb and loads up to 45 lb. 42 mm (mine are 42 mm on
21 mm OW rims) is too narrow for our sandy trails, but if I rode in firmer
dirt I
Typo: Mine are *41 mm on 21 mm OW rims.*
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 9:51 AM Patrick Moore wrote:
> ... (mine are 42 mm on 21 mm OW rims) ...
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Philip: Can you (or can anyone else for that matter) say how the Klampers
perform compared to TRP Hy Rds or to full hydraulics? I was just talking to
my brother about the Hy Rds and wondering if the Kampers would be as
powerful and modulate as well without the hydraulic complication.
The Klampers
ver the cable Pauls. Your
> results may vary on steep, rocky descents I don't ride.
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:46:22 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
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>> Philip: Can you (or can anyone else for that matter) say how the Klampers
>> perform co
used the
> worms to worm out of there pronto.
> So, it was luck. Might need some of those specialty large plugs for the
> next time…
> -Kai
>
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>> PS: I later bought some exotic and expensiv
nk (the old one still works!):
>>>>>>>> http://notfine.com/rivendell/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy reading! All of the files are text searchable. If you have
>>>>>>>> anything that we haven't included please send me a DM.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
emotional metaphor: "a wee
bit dull." (Note that my benchmark bike is my 1999 Riv Road custom gofast
fixed gear designed by Grant around light, short 26" wheels.)
But please elaborate. Was I close?
Patrick Moore, who, God willing, will one day build up that much-bruited
early 1970
That's frame and fork and headset, folks.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 10:07 AM Patrick Moore wrote:
> .. 1970s *tout 531* Libertas [5.9 lb 60 X 56 c-c with steel Campy hs!!]
> with 38 mm tires for a road-like pavement gofast combined with tires and
> gearing sufficient for firm-dir
but doesn't stretch me out much more than the Aherne bar. I
realize that I can buy a shorter stem too, but I want to know what the
shortest reach, etc., option/s is/are.
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uot; bike. It's definitely THEIR
> version of one but none of their models except for maybe the Roadeo fit
> into the industries' categories. I think Country bike and Hilibike are
> beautiful categorical solutions, so perhaps the Homer and Roadini deserve
> their own as well. Food
back to me unrepaired.
Patrick Moore, with a long list of bike projects that *eventually* get done.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 3:50 PM Bill Lindsay wrote:
> As long as you never build "that Libertas" and don't ride it, its ride
> qualities will remain *flawless *forever, and the
5634
>
> https://www.sram.com/en/zipp/models/hb-dbsc-7e-b2
>
> If you're looking for a silver finish and a 26.0 clamp area, the only
> thing I've found to be nice is the Soma Hwy One... Would love to hear of
> others!
>
> Liz
> Washington, DC
>
>
>
&
y had them in stock. Ended up with
>> black which was painted, not anodized. Had a lot of fun removing the paint
>> and getting it to a silver that looks like it was in someone's toolbox for
>> 40 years.
>>
>> On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:15:16 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moor
out a year before
> swapping for the VO "Nouveau Randonneur," which has significantly more room
> behind the hoods but is also longer reach. I liked the angle and position
> of the drops on the Cowbells better, though.
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
> On Wednesday,
the drops, btw...)
>
> Cheers!
>
> -- Liz
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 6:39:28 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
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>> Thank you, Elizabeth; both those look very possible -- and yes, I should
>> have mentioned that I do want a 31.8mm clamp area.
>>
&g
o pay less.
Or, point me to a source that has either in cheap bulk lots.
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Thanks, Garth and Steve. I've considered that before, principally to avoid
the causes of shudder, but the biplane crown is not drilled, and I expect
(have not peered under the hood) that the requested-beefy under-crown
threaded fender boss will interfere with any bolt run through any hole I
drill t
Laing and Ray: Thank you. If an off-list offer does not turn into things,
then I will look both of these sources up. Meanwhile they'll go to my
archive.
On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 12:13 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> Velolumino is still out of the banana connectors, and I'm still looking
I. They are ugly, I'll give
> you that, but I've never ridden a more comfortable road bar.
>
> https://www.northrimadventure.com/product/ritchey-bicycle-components-pro-biomax-ii-road-handlebar-os-1653.htm
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Sorry, Jared, it has been claimed.
On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 1:56 PM Jared Wilson wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> I'll take you up on that if Eric isn't interested.
>
> -Jared
>
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>> I'
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To fully clean and purge all residual nuances for this discussion of the
bestPaul brakes for one's bike: Question: What are the several options for
long-pull road levers? Long ago it was Tektro and Cane Creek long-pull road
levers, and I used both, but that was circa 2012 when I first built my
firs
Thanks to all; I am all set for now thanks to a generous offer; and thanks
to the other offers too and the numerous source links.
On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 12:13 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> Velolumino is still out of the banana connectors, and I'm still looking
> for 2 pairs (ie, 2X ma
Compe 287V still seems to be readily available.
> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:15:26 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
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>> To fully clean and purge all residual nuances for this discussion of the
>> bestPaul brakes for one's bike: Question: What are the several options for
>
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> Cheers,
> Andrew in Sydney
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I've installed about the same number of metal -- Honjo, VO, Berthoud,
Kelpie, Wald -- but mostly VO -- and plastic fenders, SKS, Blumel, Zefal,
Avocet, Planet Bike, etc. Metal ones properly installed are more rigid
while plastic ones *can* -- but don't always -- rattle from vibration. Some
metal on
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>
> Killer! Thanks for sharing your experiences with various fenders/materials.
>
> Scott
>
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> I've instal
This works if the threaded hole is open at the outer end but not if it's
capped. I've managed to spread Nitto stems with a large flathead
screwdriver but yes, the Nitto spreader tool is far easier to use. If the
absence of the Nitto tool, a thin but stiff and sturdy and properly thick
piece of stee
I've read that AW hubs made before a certain date -- 1960s? -- had a design
flaw that caused whatever tiny little metal part inside the hub -- Clutch?
Pegs that engage the clutch? -- would flex in such a way to tend toward
clutch disengagement under high torque. This was fixed in later models. Of
c
I'd be interested to hear others' opinions about this; I hope it's true --
ie, I hope fillet brazing is one of the stronger joining methods. Ideas?
Chauncey Matthews used bilaminate construction on my Matthews 1 (Fat tire
road bike) and all fillet brazing on the 2020 road bike.
Speaking of which:
Not Jobst, but I recall reading somewhere a remark by Skye Yeager that
Coppi climbed the cols in a 46/19. Funny: watching old pro racing, the
riders grunt up hills at 20 rpm and spin out seated in sprints at 160 rpm,
whereas it's the opposite today.
On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 7:22 AM Eric Marth wrote
I expect Jobst would not choose carbon fiber, but I wonder if an
intelligently designed -- ie, a good balance of light weight and strength
-- carbon fiber frame would be less likely to crack under someone as big
and powerful as he? Is this a use where carbon fiber would be better than
steel?
If he
And he probably wore a 45" sleeve.
On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 8:15 AM George Schick wrote:
> Considering the very large size frame shown in these various photos I'm
> surprised that he still insisted on using DT shifters - that'd be a long
> reach. 'Course, I suppose it didn't matter much since he
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I've urged this before and I urge it again: Peter Jon White's basic bike
fitting primer is an excellent starting point because it sets out the basic
principles of good bike fit in reference to comfort and power, the basic
goals of good bike fit.
I have a long torso and short limbs -- Asian build o
Shee-*IT.* I meant to say: He counseled shoving the saddle back and *lowering
it* while raising and shortening the stem.
On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 6:09 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> ... I ... complained to Grant that I felt that I was "losing the pedal
> stroke" over top dead cente
the BO extralight
for rolling, durability, and sealing while tubeless?
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BTW: has anyone ridden both the Soma Supple Vitesse *SL* and the Soma
Supple Vitesse* EX,* and can she-er-he-er-it say with personal experience
how the latter compares to the former in (1) rolling resistance (or, let's
just say, does it "feel as fast?") and (2) softeness ("does it feel as
smooth an
I'll say! That was a damned good price for a Legolas!
Questions:
1. Valerie, why did you sell this unobtanium of the Rivendell line of
bicycles?
2. Those who have ridden the Legolas and the Ram, the Roadeo, or the
Roadini: How does the Legolas feel in ease of maintaining speed,
acceleration, and
Again, SL model, 48 mm width.
Just posted Big Ones (and Wabi Woolens jersey) for sale and willing to
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That's interesting to know. I expect that the Roadeo handles much like the
Ram and I've owned one of the last which gives me a point of comparison.
Certainly the Ram handled "seamlessly".
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:10 PM Valerie Yates wrote:
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Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Oh, and the skinny tt matched with OS dt and st.
On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 3:20 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> ... I note the Brooks saddle on an otherwise modern bike and the very
> complex and sophisticated stay bending
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made with a thin, firm foam cushion sandwiched
between bottom outside and inside. Has anyonh rigged up something like this
for Saddlesack or Happisack that does not materially reduce volume?
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Patrick Moore
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is extra clothing
>> placed underneath and around to protect glass containers of food/drink(!).
>> We did equip each rear saddlebag with a custom-cut with duct tape wrapped
>> cloro-plast. Does add some protection + structure since the bag is made
>> from x-pac material.
The Bullseye replacement pulleys -- 8 speed? Or do these date from 7-speed
or even pre-7-speed days? -- on my rd work fine with an 11 sp chain. I
expect they'd work fine with a 12 speed chain.
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I just picked up a 951 rapid rise derailer on Eb
mfortable
under Rapha touring shorts as wool Kuchariks with chamois?
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Patrick Moore
Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Thanks, all. I may one day give Andiamos a try, but the discussion
indicates that they're not more comfortable than old Kucharics, so for now
I'll just use up the Kucharics.
One advantage of the Andiamos of course is easier care and feeding, but I
use the Kucharics only occasionally so the hassle
comfortable.
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> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 7:59:02 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
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>> I was just perusing the new Riv email update and saw Andiamos.
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>> I gave up nastily clinging lycra shorts with nasty, bulky pillow pads
>> over 20 years ago, but when I ride
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e been riding them long enough to
collect all those thorns -- OS Regular and Endurance both have simply
prevented all air loss.
Photos $5 each, answers to questions $10 each.
Patrick
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At least, I found it funny. From today's blog post.* They put too many
gears out back, so now they have to get rid of them up front. And the cycle
continues.*
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