[RBW] Re: Best practice with Sunrace Thumbshifters

[Berkeleyan]

Joe, yes, she's also a pure friction shifter. I'm looking into how I can 
increase the diameter of the barrel OR gain leverage on the ancient front 
Derailer. And honestly folks, I get that these are ideal for "inside" 
mounting to use both thumb and fingers to achieve the full swing of the 
lever. If it were just me, would not be an issue. But her muscle memory is 
brittle in that way.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 12:28:05 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Andrew, 
>
> I have one each SunRace shifter and Silver2 to compare. The barrels appear 
> to be the same diameter but the SunRace is notably further from the bar, 
> and the lever is a smidge longer. Both distance issues are going to create 
> the sensation that she's reaching further and pulling the lever through a 
> longer arc than the Silver. Does this mean the Silver shifter is more like 
> the one that was on her bike? I don't know but my guess..yes!*
>
> *Assuming we're talking friction shifters here. I'm no help if she's using 
> index.  
>
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 9:06:00 AM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:
>
>> Brief background, my wife's 1995 B'Stone X0-5 thumb shifters died after a 
>> mild crash. I replaced them with the beautiful Sunrace thumbies from the 
>> mothership website. Now she complains...
>>
>> She has Dove bars (like Albatross but more straight-back at the grips) 
>> and cork grips, and she was used to the old shifters being closer to her 
>> hands than I can get the Sunracers, when mounted in the "outer" position. 
>> She tried them mounted as "inner" shifters but couldn't get the knack of 
>> using thumbs to press down and finger to left back up. I also think the 
>> shifters are further away from the bar than she was used to, and have a 
>> longer swing.
>>
>> When mounted outboard, is there a trick to get less cable pulled so the 
>> swing of the shifter is a shorter arc? Maybe that's all about mechanical 
>> advantage at the derailer. I'm wondering if anyone else has worked through 
>> all the permutations of the "outsider" mounting to find a best way.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

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" I have a threaded through-axle with big heavy 17mm nuts, front and back. 
And I carry a Park bottle opener with 17mm socket on the end to remove the 
wheels."

Er, make that 15mm... I was thinking of motorcycle parts at the same time.

- Andrew

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[RBW] Best practice with Sunrace Thumbshifters

[Berkeleyan]

Brief background, my wife's 1995 B'Stone X0-5 thumb shifters died after a 
mild crash. I replaced them with the beautiful Sunrace thumbies from the 
mothership website. Now she complains...

She has Dove bars (like Albatross but more straight-back at the grips) and 
cork grips, and she was used to the old shifters being closer to her hands 
than I can get the Sunracers, when mounted in the "outer" position. She 
tried them mounted as "inner" shifters but couldn't get the knack of using 
thumbs to press down and finger to left back up. I also think the shifters 
are further away from the bar than she was used to, and have a longer swing.

When mounted outboard, is there a trick to get less cable pulled so the 
swing of the shifter is a shorter arc? Maybe that's all about mechanical 
advantage at the derailer. I'm wondering if anyone else has worked through 
all the permutations of the "outsider" mounting to find a best way.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

[Berkeleyan]

Patrick asks, "Andrew: Do you use a QR axle on your flip flop hub? I 
switched from 17 and 19 cogs on either side of my Phil to a 17/19 Dingle so 
that with the QR axle it's very, very easy and quick to change cogs."

I have a threaded through-axle with big heavy 17mm nuts, front and back. 
And I carry a Park bottle opener with 17mm socket on the end to remove the 
wheels. It works fine, I don't mind the extra effort. And yes, I enjoy the 
QB's up-angled rear forks (dropouts) which let me keep the brake pads 
"pretty much" aligned with the rim when I flip between 17 and 19, or flop 
over to the fixed 16. For a ride in the flats through traffic, I'm on the 
17. If heading up into the lowland hills, I stop and change to the 19. And 
stand on the pedals a lot, and even then sometimes get off and walk.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 6:54:43 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

Two teeth will require adjusting the axle-bb length. The Quickbeam and 
Roaduno have long track ends to hold the axle (or will the Roaduno have 
long forward-facing horizontals?).

With the chain adjusted for the bigger cog you might be able to ride, just, 
with the chain on the smaller cog, using a freewheel, but the chain will 
certainly be very loose. You would *not* want to do that with a 17/19 t 
Surly Dingle cog!

Andrew: Do you use a QR axle on your flip flop hub? I switched from 17 and 
19 cogs on either side of my Phil to a 17/19 Dingle so that with the QR 
axle it's very, very easy and quick to change cogs.

Patrick "76 inches and 68 inches on the same side" Moore [Sometimes I 
wonder if a 17/20 would not have been better: 64"; but then realize that 
for this bike the 76" cruising gear and a 68" headwind and long incline 
gear is just about perfect; *spot-on* perfect would be 76" / 66".]

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[RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

[Berkeleyan]

The paint and fancier lugs on the RoadUno are beautiful, glad to see this 
coming. Still, I love my 66cm QuickBeam. I stick with a single ring up 
front and a Dos ENO 17-19 freewheel on the rear, with a 16 fixed cog on the 
other side. It gets me anywhere in Berkeley except up the steepest hills, 
and also serves as a fine S24O steed (I rode it from Ferry Building over GG 
Bridge to Corte Madera for Entmoot that one time. The thing maybe not clear 
until you ride a single is the extra body english you're going to be 
employing - I stand on the pedals a lot, and do paperboy up many slopes. 
This is fine, the delight of not ever shifting while riding is exquisite, 
and I enjoy the tighter bond with  the bike. It's the "one" bike I'll never 
let go of.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:

> I like single speed bikes, many like single speed bikes. The simplicity, 
> the possibility of fixed gear, it is the epitome of biking for me, I think.
>
> I like the idea of the roaduno. So far it looks like it will have 700c/622 
> wheel size, long reach side pull brakes. Rear facing drop outs. Those are 
> the main factors to think about, because stem length, handlebar and lever 
> type, fenders or not, dynamo or not, are flexible on most bikes.
>
> What is the competition, and what are they offering?
> Crust Lightning bolt single speed. 650b wheels with anti posts. 
>
> BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has 135mm 
> rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.
>
> What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?
>
> Edwin
>
>

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[RBW] ISO 132 x 700 rear wheel in East Bay

[Berkeleyan]

I need to give up on straightening the rear wheel on my wife's old B-Stone 
X0-5, it's just not happening. Does anyone in Berkeley/Oakland/Albany 
environs have a 132 rear wheel they would like to sell? Good condition, 
straight spokes, runs true? She has a 7-speed cassette cluster (not a free 
wheel) on it now, the current rim is about 24mm wide.

Thanks!

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: New Build Day! Two Speed Road Bike

[Berkeleyan]

Ah, so you shift the rear DOS ENO by turning the thumbscrew bolt, brilliant 
and simple. That gives you a low range two-speed for hills, and a high 
range two-speed for the flats. I have the hub on my QuickBeam, and I bet 
you're able to swap cogs faster than I can, since I have 17mm nuts to deal 
with.

- Andrew, still kicking in Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Compact Half-Step plus Granny gearing

[Berkeleyan]

I ran my LongLow with H/S + G for many of its so-far 25 years. I use a 
Sachs six-speed freewheel on a Phil hub, and learned to shift initially for 
the correct rear cog, then trim up or down with the front Der. It felt 
natural and fine, an easy way to ride.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Will's Roadini SS

[Berkeleyan]

It's a different ride, and a fun ride, to have a single speed. I have a Dos 
Eno on my QuickBeam, but still stay primarily on the 15 tooth sprocket. The 
17 comes into play for East Bay hills, but I rode (with camping gear) in 
the 15 from Berkeley to the Entmoot in Marin via San Francisco and 
Sausalito/Tiburon, and it was delightful. With no levers to move, you focus 
on building momentum, and save strength for hills.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 7:57:35 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:

> Have to say...I like that bike a lot. Very clean and elegant
>
> And Will's post : 
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/singlespeed-roadini?mc_cid=1ea8aef045_eid=0074b52ae1
>  
> nails what I like about single-speeds; for some years now my SS PX-10 has 
> been a fave. Apologies to Rivendell but riding that old Peugeot IS 
> addictive.  I am curious to see the landing of the Roaduno in 2023
>

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[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

[Berkeleyan]

To borrow a trite phrase, The Nivex shows that RH Cycles have jumped the 
shark. The cost is well beyond any common rider's reach, requires 
retrofitment brazing, paint, and only works with a custom shifter that 
mounts to a downtube. Kudos to Grant and RBW for sticking it out to bring a 
new RD in under $200 that mounts to standard dropouts.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 7:57:26 AM UTC-8 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
PA wrote:

> The Nivex is on the market now, and I really like the look of it. Even at 
> $729.00 it feels like money well spent if you want something a little 
> different and appreciate all that goes into making something like this. 
> KUDOs to Jan for sticking with it. 
> Nivex Rear 
> 
> [image: Oregon-Outback-RH_Nivex-600x387.jpeg]
>
> For a custom Rivendell, it might make for a very sweet build. If my ship 
> comes in I'd be tempted to spring for one, but I'll hold out until I see 
> the new Riv rear derailer. 
>
> Marty
>

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[RBW] MIssing Link closing in Berkeley - whither the LBS

[Berkeleyan]

Well, the RBW link may simply be that Missing Link was a Bridgestone 
dealer, back when my wife bought her XO-5 there in 199x. I've patronized 
them for bits and parts throughout the years, and counted on them being 
there. But now, with the tower-ization of downtown Berkeley, they've lost 
their lease and will shutter by end of year.

https://www.missinglink.org/

Damn, such a loss. For me, for local cyclists, for anyone who appreciates 
the funky and esoteric charm that small shops bring to communities.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Berkeleyan]

I'm in for the long haul. I bought Moustache Bars from RBW for my REI XR 
way back in the early 1990's, so that must have been when Grant first put 
up a sign.

When I was doored in 1997, I used the insurance settlement toward a 
custom-sized 65cm LongLow, which I still have, and love. Phil hubs, 
six-speed Sachs Freewheel, it just rides and rides and rides.

Later, I found a 66cm QuickBeam on Craigs, and it became my "second" bike, 
fitted with a Dos Enos flip-flop rear hub and Bullmoose bars. It has been 
to an Entmoot (China Camp) and just about everywhere in the East Bay.

Most recently, I had my friend Mark Guglielmana build up a custom frame 
modeled between my LongLow and a Hunqapillar (ergo, Diagatube) and fitted 
for a Rohloff hub. Totally Riv-inspired, and a delight to take on loaded 
tours. It does sport a re-raked RBW fork, but with bosses re-brazed for 
MAFAC centerpulls.

And I'm only 61, so who knows what the next 10-20 years will hold!

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 4:55:34 PM UTC-7 Philip Williamson 
wrote:

> Recent discussions make me wonder, what epoch of Rivendell bikes or 
> aesthetic most appeals to list members? 
>
> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best? 
> Is it the era you first encountered Riv in, or did you look back through 
> the back catalog and say, "That's the one for me?" Or did you arrive early, 
> travel into the future with Rivendell and love best what's happening now? 
>
>- Are you a "*Proto-Riv*" aficionado of Longlows, Allrounders, and 
>Herons? 
>- A "*Golden Ager*?" Are Herons, Rambouillets, and Salukis your 
>favorites? 
>- Or are you a "*2TTer,*" a Bombadil, Hunq, and Sam Hillborner?
>- A "*Clemster*" and a Rosco? 
>- Have you become a "*New Atlantean*?" A Swoop-a-tuber, Hill-biker, 
>and a Gus Bootster? 
>
> Are these fixed preferences, or have you been most into a different era 
> before? Do you have shadings of more than one?  I first encountered Riv in 
> the Proto era, looking at the All Rounder. Overall I'm a Golden Ager, but 
> the New Atlantean age is looking pretty attractive. 
>
> Philip 
> Santa Rosa, CA 
>

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[RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

[Berkeleyan]

RBW content - I owe my 1998 Rivendell LongLow Custom to getting doored in 
west Berkeley. I was coming back from (high carbohydrate) lunch at 
Jack-in-da-Box and was pedaling my lugged steel Centurion past parked cars 
when a door swung open and caught me in the ribs - immediate full stop. A 
painful injury, entirely not my fault. Long story short, the car driver's 
insurance company agreed to a cash settlement, and I poured it it into a 
custom RBW frame (and full set of components). The LongLow is still in the 
stable.

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[RBW] Re: TK's Custom

[Berkeleyan]

54 cm Noodles? Good grief... them er sum wide bars! I thought my 48's were 
a skosh wide, but wow... I'll bet they squeak a bit, with so much leverage.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 4:50:37 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Check this out from the latest Riv email, it looks like mine! I also got 
> my paint inspiration from Mark Abele's custom, this one is a little darker 
> than mine and closer to Mark's. So pretty. 
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/tks-custom?mc_cid=1ae4dd7598_eid=6ddd470367
>

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[RBW] Re: Advantages of front loading

[Berkeleyan]

Here's some discussion on lower rake, and consequences for handling.

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/1164491-people-who-have-had-forks-re-raked-lower-tr-do-you-notice-lowered-front-end-2.html

My custom Rohlhoffer Diagatube frame has a re-raked RBW fork, and we did 
that specifically to accommodate carrying weight in front (I have a great 
big WaxWing Porteur sitting on a small front rack). I also have two 
low-rider racks I have not yet used. For reference, I also have a '98 
LongLow and an Orange 66cm QuickBeam, both with stock forks. The stock 
forks make for quick and light unladen handling, and both feel heavier with 
Wald baskets and ShopSacks. Heavier, but not really problematic, and I 
appreciate the convenience of gear up front, whether shopping, riding to a 
picnic, or camping. The handling on the re-raked fork is quite light 
without any weight on the fork, but feels really good with a full bag, and 
I'm glad we made the modification, it's perfect for all the riding I do.

- Andrew, Berkeley

p.s. Shoutout to Nick Payne for his Rohloff touring rig.

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[RBW] RBW website makeover

[Berkeleyan]

Hey, the guys at Riv pulled it off, the site is really great today! Looking 
at it through a desktop browser, not mobile, and all the quirks about 
getting lost down into an item and not being able to quickly get back to 
the main options are fixed. Love it!

- Andrew in Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Why did you buy your first Riv?

[Berkeleyan]

Why? Because I had an insurance settlement from getting doored in west 
Berkeley, and I had a RBW catalogue in hand, having previously bought 
Moustache Bars for my Novara XR "cross" bike from REI. I wrote to Grant, 
and we settled on a 65cm LongLow frame. He took in all my specs, and the 
frame was built by Joe Stark. Painted by Joe Bell. This was 1998... I built 
it up with M-bars, Shimao 105 shifting components, Phil bottom bracket & 
rear hub, half-step + granny mated to a Sachs six-speed freewheel, and 
Sunracer rims. I was delighted beyond belief at the fit of the bike, 
perfectly matching my legs, arms. The reach to the bars was excellent, and 
it was fun & fast, no compromises at all.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-vj9MScf/0/L/i-vj9MScf-L.jpg

It still rides strong, only changes have been to mini-vee brakes, drop 
bars, and thin Gripster pedals.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Brake lever inward rotation on Noodle Bars

[Berkeleyan]

I'm still dialing in my brake lever (Tiagra) position on my wide (48cm) 
Noodles, before I tape the bars and commit to the Tektro Interrupters. 
After zooming down Old Tunnel Road in Oakland today, I wonder how many 
people ride with levers dead straight ahead, and how many swivel the hoods 
inward some amount? My hands "want" the levers turned in, and I don't see 
any drawback to that...

- Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Berkeleyan]

Soon... :-)

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 12:49:57 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Ok Andrew, we're gonna need a full pic of your Rohloff bike. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 12:39:57 PM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:
>
>> The less black the better, on my bicycles. But I'll tolerate 
>> painted/anodized black more than dull "silver" painted parts, which just 
>> look awful next to polished aluminum and steel bits. Two examples, on my 
>> new ride, are the Surly Singleator and front brake stay. And yes, the 
>> Rohloff twister is just an ugly thing, nothing I can do about that right 
>> now. Might replace with a knurled lightweight aluminum knob when I get time 
>> to make one.
>>
>> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9wjdXq6/0/L/i-9wjdXq6-L.jpg
>>
>> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fZV99Hj/0/L/i-fZV99Hj-L.jpg
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Berkeleyan]

The less black the better, on my bicycles. But I'll tolerate 
painted/anodized black more than dull "silver" painted parts, which just 
look awful next to polished aluminum and steel bits. Two examples, on my 
new ride, are the Surly Singleator and front brake stay. And yes, the 
Rohloff twister is just an ugly thing, nothing I can do about that right 
now. Might replace with a knurled lightweight aluminum knob when I get time 
to make one.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9wjdXq6/0/L/i-9wjdXq6-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fZV99Hj/0/L/i-fZV99Hj-L.jpg

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: WTB 46 or 48 Noodles

[Berkeleyan]

I found a local pair of 48 Noodles, in a clean trade for my Albastache 
bars. Thanks RBW Bunch!

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 4:06:35 PM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:

> I'm looking for a pair of good or better condition Noodles, widest sizes. 
> Not really looking for a cockpit,  just bars. If you must include other 
> bits, talk to me, it might work. Prefer local to East Bay for in-person 
> pickup, but open to shipping.
>
> I've given the Albastach bars a good test on my new frame, and they're 
> definite improvement over M-bars but I really miss the interrupter levers 
> on my other Noodle-equipped bike, and I also want a lower position for fast 
> descents. 
>
> Yes, the Albas are going to be available.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
>

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[RBW] WTB 46 or 48 Noodles

[Berkeleyan]

I'm looking for a pair of good or better condition Noodles, widest sizes. 
Not really looking for a cockpit,  just bars. If you must include other 
bits, talk to me, it might work. Prefer local to East Bay for in-person 
pickup, but open to shipping.

I've given the Albastach bars a good test on my new frame, and they're 
definite improvement over M-bars but I really miss the interrupter levers 
on my other Noodle-equipped bike, and I also want a lower position for fast 
descents. 

Yes, the Albas are going to be available.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Our own Joe B. on a ride with Henry Wildeberry

[Berkeleyan]

This was a fun one to watch... great to see Joe's solidly flexible approach 
to gear and components. Not as much riding as most Wildeberry videos, but 
entertaining all the same.

https://youtu.be/EXVLbUBkba0

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: And the winner of best handlebar is....

[Berkeleyan]

Agree. I have Albastache bars on my new Riv-ish Custom, and they're really 
good. I had Moustache bars and then Noodles on my actual Riv custom over 
the past 22 years, and think these are the right bars for at least the next 
decade. 

- Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Fenders for bikes with big tires

[Berkeleyan]

I have VO fluted 52mm Zeppelin fenders on my 700x44 Compass tires 
(Snoqualmie Pass) mounted to Velocity Dyan rims. The tires measure 41mm 
when inflated to around 35psi (so delightful to ride). I like the fenders 
and the fitment. I'm using a RBW front fork, and the 52mm fenders had to be 
squished just a bit to fit, no way the 63mm would have fit there without 
Dremel tool cutting. What annoyed me was the front tire & fender would 
contact & chirp when I made quick tight turns, or stood on the pedals 
uphill. I've stopped the chirping by both spreading the fender just a bit 
wider and securely tightening the bolts that attach the stays.

I think if you go for a wider tire, you'll definitely want the 63mmm 
fenders. And know that the aluminum fenders will take careful fitting and 
adjusting, but will look beautiful.

- Andrew, Berkeley
On Sunday, October 3, 2021 at 12:47:10 PM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:

> I’ll be curious to know where you wind up, both in terms of fender 
> selection and tire clearance. My Hunq has 2” Big Bens that are nearing end 
> of life and I’m thinking of replacing them with some 2.1” RH tires when the 
> time comes (probably the Antelope Pass, since my riding is 98% paved, but 
> the Fleecer Ridge just looks so much more Hunq-y). I currently have 50mm 
> SKS fenders that are cracked and chipped and are in need of replacement now 
> that the rains have returned. I’ve never used fenders other than SKS and I 
> don’t know that I have the patience to fiddle with an involved installation 
> such as I understand Honjos require. Last I looked, Riv suggests the P65 
> for all their fat tires (including 26” and 650b) which makes me concerned 
> that the radius isn’t optimized for 700c. I’ll have a look at VO though. 
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Oct 3, 2021, at 11:45 AM, Johnny Burrell  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Winter is coming **
>
> And so fenders are needed. I have a Hunqapillar with some big 2.1" tires. 
> My fender requirements are that they must fit, be pretty and not too short. 
> I like long fenders because long fenders + mud-flaps keep the muck off.  
>
> Here's where I'm at... 
>
>- Planet Bike fenders are too short, I think. These must be for 
>Californians 
>- PDW Full Metal Fenders are great, i have them on a different bike, 
>but unsure if the 55mm will fit my 2.1's
>- The SKS B65 may fit the bill, it's what Riv recommends, but they 
>look really short (here 
>
> 
>  is 
>the riv link with pic) and... plastic
>- Velo Orange seems to have some nice fenders in 63mm here they are 
>
> 
>
> These are going to last a really long time so price isn't really a 
> deciding factor. I also want them to look good, because I'm vain. After 
> typing all of this it appears I'm leaning toward the VO fenders, how do 
> folks here feel about them? How's their longevity?
>
> thank you,
> Johnny B in Portland
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[RBW] New Banana Sack

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My Khaki Banana Sack came last week, and it has a new (yes?) feature since 
the Grid-Grey one I have from couple years ago. There's a lightweight 
interior flap, attached at the lip of the compartment, that you can swing 
out like a dog's panting tongue, stow all yer stuff inside, and then put 
the flap over it all before closing the lid. Seems it will hold everything 
extra-secure inside, and I like it.

The Khaki fabric is thicker than in the past, and is not a "grid" style. 
Really nice.

What I don't understand is why the leather straps aren't shipped ready to 
fit perfectly to a Brooks Saddle and Nitto seatpost. I had to add a hole to 
the seatpost leather to get a snug fit, and go through many contortions to 
get the bag snug up to the saddle loops. Or maybe I'm the only one who 
doesn't like a bag flopping about under the saddle?

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

[Berkeleyan]

One more... prompted by Will's email comment today of "properly set up 
Albastache bars" for long road rides. I keep wondering about best brake 
placement on these bars. In your opinion, does that mean brake levers are 
approximately tangent to the same plane, as in Will's picture of the bike 
they're sending to Philly bike expo? Or do your brakes fall further inside 
(closer to stem) or outside?

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] MUSA pants, knickers, shorts coming back

[Berkeleyan]

I saw on the Blahg that RBW is getting in some new clothing. My MUSA shorts 
have been the best garment I've owned, sturdy and perfectly comfortable for 
hiking, riding, and general knocking about. Seemingly indestructible, yet 
I'll still get another pair or two. 
Anyone know if they'll be returning to solid pockets? My one complaint, I 
can't abide mesh pockets.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Testing for interest, my '98 LongLow 65cm needs a new home

[Berkeleyan]

I now have a new Riv-ish second road bike, and the LongLow should go to a 
good home. This was built in 1998 by Joe Stark from Grant's specifications 
for my height and reach, and painted by Joe Bell. I will try to sell it as 
a complete bike before considering pulling the parts off. I think $2,000 is 
the right price.

The build is a mix of old and not-so-old. Phil BB and rear hub, Ritchey 
cranks, a Sachs six-speed freewheel (less dish on rear wheel) with a 13-30 
spread. The brakes are Tektro mini-Vees, which I found just perfect and 
grippy after working through different sets of cantilevers. Nitto S-83 
seatpost and Nitto stem. Interrupters on the Noodle bars. Lots of spare 
bits.

I love the smooth ride of this bicycle, and never hesitate to get on and 
ride all day, or for five days on long loops. The forks were repaired after 
I broke a cantilever pivot, and Ed Litton brazed a new one on and shot the 
forks in glossy black - a little odd-looking for a Riv but not 
objectionable. I'm riding Compass tires at the moment, which measure 35mm, 
and clear the fenders, but I don't think you'll fit anything wider.

Some pictures: https://diesel.smugmug.com/Bici/Rivendell-LongLow/

- Andrew in Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

[Berkeleyan]

I'm building up a new bike, custom Riv-inspired frame with RBW fork, and 
have assembled it enough to both pedal and brake. More to do, I need to get 
it shifting and the rear brake cabled, and wiring for lights... but right 
now it's been my first weekend riding it around the neighborhood and 
fiddling with the Albastache bars. It's a tall frame, 66cm, on big tires 
(700x44). I have a relatively short Nitto stem, and am playing with the 
stem height, bars angle, and brake angle and position. I rode for over a 
decade on original M-bars, on my 65 cm LongLow, before swapping to wide 
Noodles. The Albastache bars are better than the M-bars, no question. The 
extra width and the shallower drop are feeling good, I'm liking them a lot, 
everything fits. More to say soon.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 9:10:51 AM UTC-8 Adam M. wrote:

> I have the Albastache handlebar and due to my broad shoulders I find it to 
> be the perfect solution to the narrower moustache handlebars.  They are so 
> ergonomic that I cannot imagine my Rivendell without them as they offer 
> multiple riding positions and help to make my Rosco Bubbe a great ride!  
>
> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 9:41:34 AM UTC-7, masmojo wrote:
>>
>> I reading somewhere that the Albastache is the least popular handlebar!?
>> Having run a Moustache bar for 20+ years & now the Albastache since 
>> shortly after they appeared I am somewhat perplexed??? The original 
>> moustache was fairly popular & the new bar has all the originals charms, 
>> but none of the things that I didn't love. (Which were few).
>> Now granted, I admit moustache bars in general are slightly odd looking, 
>> but they are so great for so many things. Indeed, aside from my Ogre I 
>> don't think I've built a bike in the last 4 years without Albastache or 
>> Albatross bars! And as much as I like Albatross bars they are not always 
>> the answer. 
>> I think a lot of people here would love them if they gave them a try! 
>> Who do I think would benefit the most? People who ride drop bars, but 
>> mostly ride on the hoods or bar tops are ideal candidates for Albastache 
>> bars.
>> Who else? People who like Albatross bars and can't quite cotton to drop 
>> bars.
>> I find them to be the single most versatile handlebar, fine for spirited 
>> paved road jaunts or all but the most technical offroad stuff. 
>> The main thing I love about them is how I can activate the brakes from 
>> almost any hand position! Grap the end of the lever with my forefinger when 
>> I  am back on the flats; several fingers when I am forward in the curved 
>> sections OR use my pinkie & ring fingers when I am riding "on the hoods"! 
>> Indeed only when riding with my hands close to the stem, (which I rarely do 
>> with these bars) do I not have instant braking available.
>> So, I am interested to hear why people don't go for these latest & 
>> greatest moustache bars?
>
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[RBW] Funky Monkey 22.2 FS?

[Berkeleyan]

A shot in the dark, does anyone have a Paul cable hanger for 22.2 (7/8) 
stem to sell? Ideally a polished aluminum version, but I'll take what I can 
get. Thanks, I'm building up a new frame, with a RBW fork, and the head 
tube and headset leave no spare room for a fork-mounted cable hanger. Need 
to find one that can clamp to the quill stem.

- Andrew, in Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: FOR SALE: Custom Rivendell Road Bike

[Berkeleyan]

Do you happen to know the size of the frame? When was it built?

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:24:54 PM UTC-7 hm_w...@hotmail.com wrote:

>
> -Curt Goodrich built Rivendell Road bike with custom paint by Joe Bell
> -Phil Wood hubs built to Sun CR18 rims
> -SHIMANO Deore XT m772 rear derailer
> -Deore XT cantilever brakes
> -Nitto handlebars and stem
> -Silver bar-end shifters
>
> Immaculately cared for.  Stored in climate controlled garage.
> Located in Pacific Northwest.
>
> Asking $2000, plus shipping if applicable.
>

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[RBW] Re: Stolen Purple Rivendell Custom - SF East Bay Area

[Berkeleyan]

I saw the BikeIndex post on twitter, and broadcast it. Good luck.

On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 5:45:48 AM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:

> I sure hope it works for you.  Good luck!
>
> Bill S 
> San Diego
>
> On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 8:06:32 PM UTC-7 Corwin wrote:
>
>>
>> I put the bike on bikeindex.org.
>> On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 1:47:00 PM UTC-7 Corwin wrote:
>>
>>> I got the serial number from Mark. A few pictures attached.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 7:48:03 AM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:
>>>
 A few years ago I had a Trek 720 stolen.  I posted on bikeforums.net 
 and was advised to list my bike on bikeindex.org.  I did so and did 
 recover the frame as a result about a year and a half later.  Fortunately, 
 I did have the serial number to list.  Without that, I suspect the listing 
 would not have been effective.  Now, if I'm looking at a used bike to buy, 
 I will search bikeindex to see if it might be listed.

 Bill S
 San Diego

 On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 12:44:34 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:

> That's a shame.  We should all keep an eye out for this bike.  Bikes 
> stolen in LA often go to the Bay Area, &  vice versa, hoping to evade 
> local 
> eyes.  Probably a similar problem between Portland & Seattle.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 11:32:38 AM UTC-7 Joe M. wrote:
>
>>
>> So sorry to hear this what a shame. I'm down in Los Angeles but I'll 
>> still keep an eye out for it.
>> On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 11:08:53 AM UTC-7 Corwin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> While I was out of town, someone entered my garage and made off with 
>>> two bikes. One of them was my purple Rivendell Custom. My understanding 
>>> from my son is that the theft took place late on Thursday, March 31 or 
>>> early on Friday, April 1.
>>>
>>> I don't think it's reasonable to expect to recover the bike - but 
>>> just in case anyone sees it - I will post a few photos after this 
>>> thread is 
>>> established.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>>
>>> Corwin
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Berkeleyan]

Please consider having the top menu anchored... it would be a real boon 
when scrolling down through an article or product section to have the top 
menu navigation right there, as a sticky.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 8:56:21 PM UTC-8 Dave wrote:

> Hi Everyone, 
>
> Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com 
> webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage, 
> improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother 
> experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
>
> The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on 
> Tumblr ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com to 
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news.   With that move, you now have one 
> site for all the latest product updates, news and Grant's blog. Just head 
> to the homepage.
>
> Enjoy and let us know what you think. 
>
> Dave Schonenberg
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Berkeleyan]

Dave, it's better than the old site, thanks! 

My initial suggestions are to (1) have the masthead "stick" to the top of 
the browser window, so I always have access to the triple-bar widget, and 
the human head,magnifying glass,and shopping cart icons. (please consider 
activating the script that will let their proper functions appear as a 
strip of text when the mouse is hovered over them), and (2) work to let 
each page have some reference anchor back to the page or category it came 
from. For instance the "Saddle Sores" page is a helpful article amidst the 
collection of cycling tips, but I don't know that it's one of several 
articles in a group on cycling tips when I'm there looking at it.

And bravo on the order history in the view of my account! Wow, I have spent 
a lot at RBW over the years :-)

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 8:56:21 PM UTC-8 Dave wrote:

> Hi Everyone, 
>
> Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com 
> webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage, 
> improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother 
> experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
>
> The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on 
> Tumblr ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com to 
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news.   With that move, you now have one 
> site for all the latest product updates, news and Grant's blog. Just head 
> to the homepage.
>
> Enjoy and let us know what you think. 
>
> Dave Schonenberg
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sackville Sacks are a good deal

[Berkeleyan]

Indeed, I've carried my Scotch, as well as my beer, in a grid-grey 
Sackville bag, and enjoyed both the riding and the imbibing. And my 
Scottish friends all agree.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 7:23:30 AM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:

> Especially when you compare them to some alternatives, like this $745 
> Scotch bag!
> https://www.westleyrichards.com/us/scotch-bag-in-forest-green
>
> Enjoying flat, grabby, and jumbo grabby sacks,
>
> Edwin
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: King cages

[Berkeleyan]

Forgive me, I thought this was a thread about F*cking Cages and the dangers 
of riding in mixed traffic.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 4:31:54 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Just the black one left, everything else sold. 
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 2:32:50 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Stainless are $15 each shipped.
>> One cerakoted black by Analog, $25 shipped. 
>> Will make a good deal for multiples or the whole lot. 
>>
>> This is not necessarily a great deal if you can find new stainless cages 
>> for $20 without tax or shipping, but if the numbers work for you gimme a 
>> holler. 
>>
>> Joe "everything must go" Bernard 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Berkeleyan]

I'm sorry, it was my bad memory! The R were 45.3 mm across the tread and 
I needed more clearance.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclemoss/7531767556/in/datetaken-public/; 
title="P1030186">https://live.staticflickr.com/7106/7531767556_5a9dd3834f_k.jpg; 
width="2048" height="1370" alt="P1030186">

and I have a picture of their tight fit 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclemoss/7531752382/in/datetaken-public/; 
title="P1030193">https://live.staticflickr.com/8144/7531752382_6ec65a198e_k.jpg; 
width="2048" height="1370" alt="P1030193">

Andrew "losing my marbles" - Berkeley

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 8:08:14 PM UTC-8 Mark Roland wrote:

> I was puzzled by the 38mm R too. Mine are 700 x 43 and I thought that 
> was the only size in 700C?
>
> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 11:05:04 PM UTC-5 Corwin wrote:
>
>> Hi -
>>
>> I admit I have an older [coleman green] Quickbeam. My 38mm Schwalbe 
>> Dureme Supremes fit with room to spare. My Rene Herse 38mm Barlow Pass 
>> tires fit with OODLES of room to spare. I have seen numerous posts and 
>> articles ascribing usage of 44mm tires on Quickbeams. Perhaps your Rock'n 
>> Roads are a little wider (only advertised width I have seen is 43/44mm). Or 
>> maybe my calipers need to be recalibrated.
>>
>> Anyway, I will stick with my Quickbeam.
>>
>> Namaste,
>>
>>
>> Corwin
>>
>> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 5:58:54 PM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, after reading the obscure details on the R1, I stand corrected. 
>>> Despite the shocking shortcoming of its very limited PBH range, it has one 
>>> great advantage over the QB of yore, and THAT is support for wider tires. I 
>>> tried running Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads (38mm) on my Orange QB, and they 
>>> just only barely fit. Currently I roll on 38mm Ocean Air Soma C-Lines, 
>>> which fit just fine without fenders. But if the R1 will go well into the 
>>> mid-40's, yes, that is an improvement.
>>>
>>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Berkeleyan]

Okay, after reading the obscure details on the R1, I stand corrected. 
Despite the shocking shortcoming of its very limited PBH range, it has one 
great advantage over the QB of yore, and THAT is support for wider tires. I 
tried running Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads (38mm) on my Orange QB, and they 
just only barely fit. Currently I roll on 38mm Ocean Air Soma C-Lines, 
which fit just fine without fenders. But if the R1 will go well into the 
mid-40's, yes, that is an improvement.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Berkeleyan]

How will it be different than a QuickBeam? That's more of a rhetorical 
question, maybe just asking what was there to improve on a QB that a R1 
will get right? My 66cm QuickBeam (Orange) already has *adjustable* wheel 
base, is fully lugged, and has proved versatile enough for a loaded S24O, a 
55 mile Brevet, all my local grocery shopping and restaurant dinner takeout 
pickup. I know, it's just the RBW "way" for bike models (apart from 
Atlantis) to have limited runs, frames that carry their cachet for 
years/decades beyond their end-of-run date. I'm  never letting go of my QB, 
but I hope the R1 is an awesome frame that sells like begeezus.

- Andrew, Berkeley

p.s. It took me a while to get the new sticker - "nothing" is greater than 
a bicycle!

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 5:01:25 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Fingers crossed that they'll make a big one...
> ..any color will do
> -Kai
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:03:18 PM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>
>> From today's BLAHG:
>>
>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not modeled 
>> after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail bike. 
>> You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to ride it 
>> on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>
>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
>> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
>> latter is unlikely : (
>>
>> - Nathan in PDX
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best hat for sun protection while walking? -- Not too off-topic

[Berkeleyan]

For me, it's a *Tillley*. I have two, one in a greenish tint, the other 
Johnny Cash black. The green goes camping, backpacking, and bicycle 
touring, the black is for Zoom calls and walking to restaurants before 
covid times. They are superb in all aspects of construction, give very good 
shade, are reasonably rain-resistant, have a secret pocket for C-notes, and 
best of all, come in real hat sizes. I have a size 8 head, this is 
important.

- Andrew, Berkeley


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Re: [RBW] Re: Chambray shirt deal alert

[Berkeleyan]

 Shorts also claimed, but for anyone curious, they are exactly 18 inches 
across the top, laying flat. So 36 circumference, in size 36! The cuffs are 
11.5 inches across, flat, and are 20.5 inches below the waist, along the 
sides.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 5:28:27 PM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:

> The shirt has been claimed AND taken off my front porch! The shorts are 
> still here... if I drop a lot of weight, they might fit. But not for a 
> while. I'm glad to take measurements of the actual waist circumference, if 
> needed.
>
> - Andrew
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chambray shirt deal alert

[Berkeleyan]

The shirt has been claimed AND taken off my front porch! The shorts are 
still here... if I drop a lot of weight, they might fit. But not for a 
while. I'm glad to take measurements of the actual waist circumference, if 
needed.

- Andrew

On 12/8/20, Berkeleyan wrote: 
> > My loss your gain! I ordered a Large Elwell Chambray shirt, and it's too 
> > snug, unwashed. I also bought a pair of Yonder Shorts, Sea Green, size 
> 36, 
> > which are too snug. Edgevale won't do an exchange (even offered to pay a 
> > restocking charge) so I'm offering both here for $25 each. They really 
> are 
> > well-constructed, MUSA, and I'll be ordering the larger sizes in a few 
> > minutes. 
> > 
> > - Andrew, Berkeley 
> > 
> > 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chambray shirt deal alert

[Berkeleyan]

My loss your gain! I ordered a Large Elwell Chambray shirt, and it's too 
snug, unwashed. I also bought a pair of Yonder Shorts, Sea Green, size 36, 
which are too snug. Edgevale won't do an exchange (even offered to pay a 
restocking charge) so I'm offering both here for $25 each. They really are 
well-constructed, MUSA, and I'll be ordering the larger sizes in a few 
minutes.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: RBW Caught in YouTube Video

[Berkeleyan]

This one, their ride through the Sierra foothills and Yosemite in winter. 
Get me out on the road, I'm so ready for a long ride!!!

https://youtu.be/XH6t4fkKtNE

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 1:24:24 PM UTC-8 David Person wrote:

> You may not think it by looking at her, but she's one tough cyclist.  Has 
> done several brevets over 200k.  In one video Henry asks her where she 
> draws the line between regular shorts and padded cycling shorts and she 
> says about 100 miles.  I can handle about 10 miles before I reach for the 
> padded shorts.  I bet her Keds snickers make some think she's not a real 
> cyclist, but boy would they be wrong.  She has/had two VO Polyvalents prior 
> to going the custom route with Fitz Cycles.
>
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:34:31 AM UTC-8 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Thanks for posting.  I couldn’t help but notice how much standover she 
>> has on her new bike.  Love the color and the build.  
>>
>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 12:59:24 AM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This made me so happy. It was great to see all the local sights (Fitz 
>>> HQ, Riv HQ, Bicycle Czar, Willow Creek, etc), and all the great parts (XTR 
>>> derailleur, Minimotos, TA, Silver shifters, etc). I like to see people 
>>> wrench on bikes who aren’t me, too.
>>>
>>> I need another pink bike.
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Santa Rosa, CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 6:02:49 PM UTC-8 David Person wrote:
>>>
 One of the YouTube channels that I follow (subscribe to) is one called 
 Henrywildeberry.  He's a YouTuber in Northern California that does a tone 
 of bikey video, along with some melodramatic acting.  Thankfully, not too 
 much of the later.  The latest video he posted is about his girlfriend 
 (best I can tell from watch most all his videos) getting a custom frame 
 and 
 then stopping by Rivendell Bicycle Works to pick up a pair of Silver 
 shifters.  I would encourage any of you who seeing some cycling through a 
 beautiful part of the country to check out the content on Henry's YouTube 
 channel.  

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcPBZW0G7tE=703s
   

>>>

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