Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Conway Bennett]

Bill,

Thanks for the clarification.  My posts weren't meant to be adversarial,
just pedantic.  I came into Riv via EcoVelo ~2010, and I didn't own my
first Riv until 2013, so the "Soba" predates me, and I thought that y'all
were using it colloquially for "So Bar"--the marketing content from Sim
Works makes references to literal soba noodles.  I'm curious if the
contemporary "So Bar" is inspired by the "Soba".


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 12:48 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a
> wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s
>
> The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made by
> Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s
>
> Do not conflate the two.  This thread and WTB is focused on the Nitto Soba
> Noodle -NOT- the Simworks So Bar.
>
> BL in EC
>
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from
>> Sim Works:
>>
>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar
>>
>> They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so I
>> don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm
>> Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was
>> released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.
>>
>> It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  Sim
>> Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily
>> discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."
>>
>> I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use
>> the Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning
>> Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All
>> Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm
>> Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got
>> wider.
>>
>>
>> Fair winds,
>>
>> Captain Conway Bennett
>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are
>>> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding
>>> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm
>>> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54
>>> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv
>>> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the
>>> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather
>>> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones
>>> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be
>>> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the
>>> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell
>>>> them.  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's
>>>> my advice.  ;)
>>>>
>>>> BL in EC
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Conway Bennett]

I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from Sim
Works:

https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar

They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so I
don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm
Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was
released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.

It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  Sim
Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily
discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."

I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use the
Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning
Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All
Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm
Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got
wider.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
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On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett 
wrote:

> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are
> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding
> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm
> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54
> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv
> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the
> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather
> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones
> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be
> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the
> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them.
>> Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my
>> advice.  ;)
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Conway Bennett]

Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them. 
>  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
> advice.  ;)
>
> BL in EC
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Fashion help wanted: ISO nice looking cycling gloves

[Conway Bennett]

I only ride drop bars, and I don't wrap the flats--I just put ESI extra 
chunky grips on the drops.  So, for longer rides, I bought Men's Body 
Geometry Grail Short Finger Gloves from Specialized.  I wanted something 
without Velcro because I didn't want to trash the cuffs on my cold weather 
gear, and this is what I could find.

On Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 8:43:02 PM UTC-5 Tom M wrote:

> If you find Cycology gloves too loud, you may not like these: 
> https://handupgloves.com/collections/all-gloves.  Still, check out the 
> Summer of Shreddy-Nine.
> Tom in Alexandria, VA
>
> On Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 9:34:45 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I will check out those several suggestions.  Thanks!
>>
>> Pics will prove it if I buy a gaggle of gloves.
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 3:02:24 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> There's lots of good looking cycling clothing in 2024, in my opinion.  I 
>>> find no trouble finding jerseys, bibs, shoes, socks and caps that are 
>>> interesting to look at and that I enjoy wearing. 
>>>
>>> Full finger gloves are cute and interesting for the most part.  My 
>>> secret weapon is gardening gloves from the fancy garden store come in a ton 
>>> of cute colors and are super affordable (by cycling standards) and durable 
>>> and fashionable.  
>>>
>>> The missing spot is short finger 'normal' cycling gloves.  Everything is 
>>> totally boring.  
>>>
>>> Last time around, I bought two pairs of boring Bongtrager gloves in 
>>> boring all black and a boring blue.  Those are on their last legs and so 
>>> I'm in the market to buy two or three pairs of the identical model of 
>>> gloves, in two (or three) interesting colors (or 'colorway').  
>>>
>>> The only interesting looking gloves are the bizarre graffiti looking 
>>> offerings from Cycology.  Those are too loud and too self-referential for 
>>> my tastes.  Even high end fashion brands like Rapha and Ostroy don't have 
>>> anything good.  
>>>
>>> Does anybody have a model of glove that comes in several good-looking 
>>> options?  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Front basket for a Clem?

[Conway Bennett]

I use a Wald 137 with a Fifth Season Squall Sack or cargo net from Riv 
attached to a Jack the Bike Rack.  I do have an extra 137 in black and a 
brown body orange to Squall Sack for sale.

https://wholegraincycles.com/

https://analogcycles.com/products/fifth-season-squall-sack-tan-top-grey-bottom

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 8:58:04 AM UTC-5 John wrote:

> I love my Wald 137s zip tied or hose clamped to a front rack. Soma sells 
> just the basket, as well as a Tanaka brand 
> 
>  
> that I've been wanting to try. Looks like the same dimensions as a 137 but 
> a little cheaper.
>
> John in Minnesota
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Re: [RBW] Re: Spring Cleaning--Handlebars, Brakes, Stems, Bags

[Conway Bennett]

Nothing nefarious was intended on my end.  I think it was Crust that wote
something to the effect of, if you like it, buy it, if you don't, complain
about it online.  I'll let that simmer then I'll delete this FS post and
sell the stuff on eBay or Crust classifieds.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 1:42 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I would stipulate - as I have before - that "net-to-me-shipped" is
> confusing. I list my items as "price plus shipping" or "price shipped".
>
> On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 10:57:59 AM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Mike.  Pirate ship has made shipping palatable.  Most items
>> listed are new, and I will sell anything listed for the retail price,
>> shipped, so no tax or shipping for the buyer.  It seems reasonable to me.
>>
>>
>> Fair winds,
>>
>> Captain Conway Bennett
>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 12:25 PM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Brendan
>>>
>>> Looks like the Cap'n lists his wants as "per shipped." So the bars, 90
>>> bucks might seem high, but I bet since the box will be large for that one
>>> item, my guess 30-40 bucks shipping if you do not have a commercial
>>> account. I was surprised of the shipping costs I forked over for parts I
>>> sold last month. One box, IIRC 6x6x5 inches was 15 bucks shipping. There
>>> goes my expected "profit."
>>>
>>> Mike "postage ain't what it used to be" SLO CA
>>> On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 8:06:00 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Conway,
>>>> Respectfully, all of these items are around $10 less when purchased new.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Brendan in SF
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 5:18:59 AM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 46cm Fairweather Nitto 174aa short shallow Noodle drop bars with lots
>>>>> of scratches. $90 net-to-me shipped.
>>>>>
>>>>> New-in-box Box Three mini-v brakes.  I have two pairs each of both red
>>>>> and silver.  If you're not familiar, think of these as the poor man's Paul
>>>>> Components Mini Moto.  $45 per wheel net-to-me shipped.
>>>>>
>>>>> New-without-box Tektro TRP RRL drop bar brake levers in all black.
>>>>>  $65 net-to-me shipped.
>>>>>
>>>>> New-in-box Dia-Compe Tech 77 Brake Levers (Black/Silver) for short
>>>>> pull brakes.  $65 net-to-me shipped.
>>>>>
>>>>> New-in-box Velo Orange threadless stem with 40 mm reach and 31.8
>>>>> clamp.  $47 net-to-me shipped.
>>>>>
>>>>> New Analog/Fifth Season Squall Sack for Wald Baskets $90 net-to-me
>>>>> shipped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Barely used (I could lie and call it new) Bags X Bird Better Half -
>>>>> Small Short (S-M Bikes) in Coyote X-Pac with metal hooks.  $120 net-to-me
>>>>> shipped.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>
>>>>> Conway
>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Spring Cleaning--Handlebars, Brakes, Stems, Bags

[Conway Bennett]

Thanks, Mike.  Pirate ship has made shipping palatable.  Most items listed
are new, and I will sell anything listed for the retail price, shipped, so
no tax or shipping for the buyer.  It seems reasonable to me.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 12:25 PM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> Hi Brendan
>
> Looks like the Cap'n lists his wants as "per shipped." So the bars, 90
> bucks might seem high, but I bet since the box will be large for that one
> item, my guess 30-40 bucks shipping if you do not have a commercial
> account. I was surprised of the shipping costs I forked over for parts I
> sold last month. One box, IIRC 6x6x5 inches was 15 bucks shipping. There
> goes my expected "profit."
>
> Mike "postage ain't what it used to be" SLO CA
> On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 8:06:00 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
>
>> Hi Conway,
>> Respectfully, all of these items are around $10 less when purchased new.
>>
>> Best,
>> Brendan in SF
>>
>> On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 5:18:59 AM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 46cm Fairweather Nitto 174aa short shallow Noodle drop bars with lots of
>>> scratches. $90 net-to-me shipped.
>>>
>>> New-in-box Box Three mini-v brakes.  I have two pairs each of both red
>>> and silver.  If you're not familiar, think of these as the poor man's Paul
>>> Components Mini Moto.  $45 per wheel net-to-me shipped.
>>>
>>> New-without-box Tektro TRP RRL drop bar brake levers in all black.  $65
>>> net-to-me shipped.
>>>
>>> New-in-box Dia-Compe Tech 77 Brake Levers (Black/Silver) for short pull
>>> brakes.  $65 net-to-me shipped.
>>>
>>> New-in-box Velo Orange threadless stem with 40 mm reach and 31.8 clamp.
>>>  $47 net-to-me shipped.
>>>
>>> New Analog/Fifth Season Squall Sack for Wald Baskets $90 net-to-me
>>> shipped.
>>>
>>> Barely used (I could lie and call it new) Bags X Bird Better Half -
>>> Small Short (S-M Bikes) in Coyote X-Pac with metal hooks.  $120 net-to-me
>>> shipped.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Conway
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Spring Cleaning--Handlebars, Brakes, Stems, Bags

[Conway Bennett]

Sorry, brown body with orange top.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
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On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 10:03 AM James M  wrote:

> Hey, Conway.  What color is that Squall Sack?
>
> James
>
> On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 8:18:59 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> 46cm Fairweather Nitto 174aa short shallow Noodle drop bars with lots of
>> scratches. $90 net-to-me shipped.
>>
>> New-in-box Box Three mini-v brakes.  I have two pairs each of both red
>> and silver.  If you're not familiar, think of these as the poor man's Paul
>> Components Mini Moto.  $45 per wheel net-to-me shipped.
>>
>> New-without-box Tektro TRP RRL drop bar brake levers in all black.  $65
>> net-to-me shipped.
>>
>> New-in-box Dia-Compe Tech 77 Brake Levers (Black/Silver) for short pull
>> brakes.  $65 net-to-me shipped.
>>
>> New-in-box Velo Orange threadless stem with 40 mm reach and 31.8 clamp.
>>  $47 net-to-me shipped.
>>
>> New Analog/Fifth Season Squall Sack for Wald Baskets $90 net-to-me
>> shipped.
>>
>> Barely used (I could lie and call it new) Bags X Bird Better Half - Small
>> Short (S-M Bikes) in Coyote X-Pac with metal hooks.  $120 net-to-me shipped.
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Conway
>>
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[RBW] Spring Cleaning--Handlebars, Brakes, Stems, Bags

[Conway Bennett]

46cm Fairweather Nitto 174aa short shallow Noodle drop bars with lots of 
scratches. $90 net-to-me shipped.

New-in-box Box Three mini-v brakes.  I have two pairs each of both red and 
silver.  If you're not familiar, think of these as the poor man's Paul 
Components Mini Moto.  $45 per wheel net-to-me shipped.

New-without-box Tektro TRP RRL drop bar brake levers in all black.  $65 
net-to-me shipped.

New-in-box Dia-Compe Tech 77 Brake Levers (Black/Silver) for short pull 
brakes.  $65 net-to-me shipped.

New-in-box Velo Orange threadless stem with 40 mm reach and 31.8 clamp. 
 $47 net-to-me shipped.

New Analog/Fifth Season Squall Sack for Wald Baskets $90 net-to-me shipped.

Barely used (I could lie and call it new) Bags X Bird Better Half - Small 
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[RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

[Conway Bennett]

I definitely have a used 172.5 XD2 triple, a used 40 tooth Sugino 
chainring, and a new 32 tooth Willow chainring I'd sell.

On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 12:51:16 PM UTC-6 David wrote:

> Thank you, Bill. This is really helpful.
>
> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 6:32:08 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> All that stuff is pretty darn common.  One place to go is eBay.  
>>
>> cranks: https://www.ebay.com/itm/386838756264
>> 40 ring: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255458588990
>> 32 ring: https://www.ebay.com/itm/196275801449
>>
>> People find practically free bike parts at "the bike co-op", or "the 
>> local bike kitchen".  That takes effort but you can save a lot.  People 
>> post "want to buy" posts on this group, and often somebody has what you 
>> seek in their parts bin.  There's a hundred ways to pull a build together.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 6:20:23 AM UTC-8 David wrote:
>>
>>> This is all really great input. The trouble I'm having is finding a 
>>> configuration out there (new or otherwise) that comes close to the  Sugino 
>>> 74/110 triple with the original 32/40/guard chainrings. Where would you go 
>>> to gather these parts?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 12:07:14 PM UTC-8 Drew Saunders wrote:
>>>
 I have an orange Quickbeam, which I bought new, with the original 
 Sugino 74/110 triple with the original 32/40/guard chainrings. I 
 immediately removed the provided 18t freewheel and put on a White 17/19t 
 Dos Eno. I also put a 22 on the flop side of the flip/flop hub that Riv 
 included with the bike.

 With the long dropout, I can use 40/17 (99%+ of my riding), 40/19, 
 32/19 or 32/22. I like to say I have the world’s least convenient 4 speed. 
 I haven’t “shifted” the bike about 5 years or more, but in the first 8 
 years that I owned it, I would take it for long recreational rides and 
 need 
 to downshift for some hills. For the locals: I even rode it up Old La 
 Honda 
 years ago, I think in the 32/19, maybe the 32/22. Age and 2 bouts with 
 cancer have made a single speed bike only suitable for commuting for me 
 now, but it’s great for that.

 I’d definitely recommend 2 chainrings at about 8t difference if you 
 want some versatility. I have the pop off SKS fender stay things, and pack 
 an old gardening glove in my saddle bag so I can change the gearing 
 without 
 getting too messy.

 Drew
 On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 12:21:08 PM UTC-8 David wrote:

> What are your drivetrain specs? Cranks, chainrings, etc.  Simpleones, 
> too, if that's what you're riding. It appears Riv doesn't offer the 
> classic 
> single speed crankset anymore.



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[RBW] Re: Any Alternatives to Silver Deore Brake Levers?

[Conway Bennett]

I have a brand new in the package Dia Compe Tech 77s I'd like to sell.  
They are 50%ish polished silver with a hinged clamp which is a selling 
point in my opinion--I will ONLY run hinged clamps on flat bars.

https://www.danscomp.com/diacompe-tech-77-brake-levers-black-silver-pair-4428-030-bk-sl/p1273728?v=1269303_source=transactional_email_medium=e-mail_campaign=order_complete_cid=5959290_content=%2fdiacompe-tech-77-brake-levers-black-silver-pair-4428-030-bk-sl%2fp1269303

On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 8:51:36 AM UTC-6 Batwing wrote:

> I am looking for the short pull standard canti/side pull/U-Brake/Rollercam 
> brake levers.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 7:38:41 PM UTC-6 R. Alexis wrote:
>
>> Which ones are you referring to? The short pull standard canti/side 
>> pull/U-Brake/Rollercam brake lever or the long pull, linear/V-Brake lever? 
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Reginald Alexis 
>>
>> On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 9:46:41 AM UTC-6 Batwing wrote:
>>
>>> Hey All,
>>>
>>> Silver Shimano Deore Brake Levers are all but extinct.  Do you have any 
>>> silver alternatives that will stand in for these excellent levers?  These 
>>> were cheap and good:  A combo that is hard to find these days.
>>>
>>> Anyone have a pair in good shape they would like to part with?
>>>
>>> Ryan in Madison
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Advantages of triple drivetrains (VO post)

[Conway Bennett]

Seems like a lot of grief.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Tue, Jan 9, 2024, 5:36 PM DavidP  wrote:

> I have a couple of bikes with 46/30 front rings and 11-34 cassettes; I end
> up mainly using them like a double 1x (no, I don't use the 46x11) and for
> these bikes I like it fine.
>
> In line with Bill's point, pairing a smaller front step with a wider range
> cassette (but not too crazy) can work well. I recently ended up with a 2x9,
> 42/34 x 11-40t setup on a bike and it's pretty nice for general use. The
> smaller front step allows getting over rolling hills using front shifts
> only, it's got great range (.85:1 - 3.8:1) and still doesn't end up with a
> bunch of simultaneous front/rear shifting. And the 34t small ring lets you
> use a standard 110 double crank.
>
> -Dave
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 6:13:54 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:
>
>> Steven, thanks for the point about how useful triples are for riding with
>> big loads, whether for touring, day tripping, shopping, whatever. I
>> frequently haul loads up hills on my already-heavy Rivs, so a wide gear
>> range with 24-34-44  or a 26-36-46 triple and a 34- or 36-tooth large rear
>> sprocket works great for me. I'm a tinkerer but I don't mess with my front
>> ders. They're set it and forget it. I also love the way shiny triple cranks
>> look. I've never felt compelled to try a 1x from a functional or aesthetic
>> standpoint.
>>
>> I agree with Johnny that much newfangled bike stuff and trends are driven
>> by product differentiation and marketing. Sometimes what was once virtue
>> becomes vice, sometimes what is old becomes new again.
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 4:14:25 PM UTC-5 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> One point that I think is being missed, is for loaded touring bikes
>>> triples make more sense. Though I am not camping I still am carrying around
>>> 40 lbs on a 32 lb bike, low gears are especially useful on long and/or
>>> steep hills. When home in central  New Hampshire many of my favorite roads
>>> are diificult if not impossible for me to ride without a 15-18” gear.
>>>
>>> Steven Sweedler
>>> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 8:43 PM Chris Halasz  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm planning on going from 3x to 1x on my all-around Tosco'd LHT. Maybe
>>>> even do that today, and replace the big ring with the Rivendell chainring
>>>> guard.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't used the 48 in a long, long time. As for the 26 inner: there
>>>> was a t-shirt from the 80s from a bike shop in Ketchum that read, "if you
>>>> ain't hikin', you ain't mountain bikin'". If it gets that low, I appreciate
>>>> the change in blood circulation by just walking those few minutes.
>>>>
>>>> - Chris
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:30:47 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak,
>>>> Woodstown NJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bill L stated:   " If it were me, I'd experiment with a 42-tooth big
>>>>> ring before going to a triple"
>>>>>
>>>>> Question to Bill:   Will a 42T large ring result in the FD hitting the
>>>>> chain stay in the inner ring of a triple (say 24T or 26T) ???
>>>>>
>>>>> PS  I agree with your comment on the 46-11 being a very high gear.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Hawrylak
>>>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 3:21:33 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You run a 46/30 with an 11-34 11sp cassette.  If it were me, I'd
>>>>>> experiment with a 42-tooth big ring before going to a triple.  46x11 is
>>>>>> pretty darn high for a commuter/city bike.  Anything higher than a 4:1 in
>>>>>> my book is for the sole purpose of pedaling at >>40mph.  That is a real
>>>>>> use-case in hilly areas, but not for me, and especially not for a
>>>>>> commuter/city bike.  That's just a suggestion.  The jump from 42 to 30 is
>>>>>> much less dramatic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BL in EC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 11:25:39 AM UTC-8 bunny...@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been kind of triple-curious again. I live in a hilly part of
>>>>>>> L.A. My commuter/city bike has an 11-34 

Re: [RBW] Advantages of triple drivetrains (VO post)

[Conway Bennett]

I dissent.  Front derailers are unnecessarily complicated to setup, and so 
are triple chainrings, especially on XD2s.  I have 1X 10 one two bikes, and 
love it, and I just specced a 1X 11 with a Deore 5100 derailer and 11-51 
cassette for my BMC Monstercross.  The whole drivetrain cost less than a 
nice triple crankset, it's all lighter too.  Check out Analog Cycles for 
inspiration.
On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 11:45:17 AM UTC-6 Johnny Alien wrote:

> For years Grant/Rivendell argued against lots of gears in the rear because 
> people didn't need to shift that much. The message was to push through if 
> its too hard or even get off and push the bike up the hill. Now its 
> shifting to a new argument...why not have those extra gears available. 
> Honestly its all marketing to me. I like the simplicity of a 1x because I 
> get the bulk of the gears I need with less maintenance. For me (personally 
> mind you) the front derailer has always been the sketchiest part of the 
> setup. Dropping chains, chain rubits all a balancing act. I am happy to 
> have that all go away with a sacrifice of the granny gear. I see what VO is 
> saying and I think its probably a practical opinion but for me?? 1x just 
> works.
>
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:33:52 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> I have a triple on just one bike (Soma Saga). My main problem is that 
>> when I’m in the smallest chainring I am moving so slowly that it’s hard to 
>> stay upright. On the very steep inclines that necessitate the small cog, I 
>> find it easier to just get off and walk the bike up the hill (something we 
>> used to call a “24-inch gear”).
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2024, at 9:20 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>>
>> I've been on half-step triples for over a decade, and never looked back.  
>> Many 30-mi rides never see a rear shift.  
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 11:00:57 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> For several years all my bikes have had triples, usually 46-32-20 on XT 
>>> 737 cranks. For this current trip I took off the big ring because I rarely 
>>> use it when touring with Cindy, or any of my solo riding, just when riding 
>>> with the guys chasing them down hills. It does look a little ridiculous, 
>>> with the front der way up in the air but so far its working out just fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> Steven Sweedler
>>> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 4:47 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
 VO makes a good case for triples:


 https://mailchi.mp/velo-orange.com/triplesaregreatchangemymind?e=9c5efe5ba1

 *Simplicity and Effectiveness* While 1x systems boast simplicity, the 
 emphasis on constant shifting may be overstated. Many riders find 
 themselves primarily using the middle ring, operating as a 1x system with 
 added flexibility to adapt to different terrain.

 The point that triples are usually used as 1Xs with low and high ranges 
 available is the key, I think. I know that, even with 10 or 11 in back, 
 I'd 
 not want a 1X, and even a 1X + granny (ie, very wide range subcompact 2X) 
 would leave me wanting easy-shifting gears for steep rolling offroad 
 terrain (which I don't ride anymore), as I found when I swapped out a 3X7 
 for a 2X9 on my erstwhile Fargo. For road use including heavy loads and 
 steep hills the 2X9 was easier to use and provided sufficient range with 
 close cruising steps, but I did miss the middle-ring range between about 
 65" and 35" which comes with the middle ring on a 46/36/24 triple.

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Re: [RBW] Re: NBOD: New Bike Ordered Day! The mythical canti-Roa!

[Conway Bennett]

My next Riv will be a 57 or 59 Canti-Rom, or if they did a run of Canti Leo 
Roadinis I'd buy one.

On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 6:03:41 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> In my experience I got sensational braking out of Campy Record brakes with 
> Galli aero rims.  They definitely had a different finish to other rims, and 
> were probably the first I ever saw with a welded and smoothed seam.  They 
> were great.  The right rims can have a strong influence on braking 
> performance, IMO.
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 10:39:38 AM UTC-8 George Schick wrote:
>
>> Man, I had to dig deeply into the aging memory banks for that one.  I 
>> seem to recall that I had two sets of wheels I used for the bike that had 
>> the Record brakes. I believe that one set had Super Champion Arc-en-ciel 
>> (sp?) tubular rims and another may have had Rigida wired-on's - can't 
>> recall the model name.  But, as you said in a previous post, these weren't 
>> exactly made with the most optimal braking surface.
>>
>> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 11:54:46 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> It's true that single pivot Campy brakes were not super powerful.  How 
>>> many different sets of rims did you use them with?  When I settled on a 
>>> favorite rim, I thought the braking was quite good.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 7:37:51 AM UTC-8 George Schick wrote:
>>>
 Kinda reminds me way back in the day when Campy Record single-pivot SP 
 brakes were considered to be the best of the best.  It was mainly just 
 name 
 dropping by people who wanted bikes with a high-end build - they had poor 
 stopping power.  The people at Campagnolo countered that their brakes were 
 intended for racers to "modulate speed," not necessarily to provide better 
 braking.

 On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 8:51:42 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The build will have a color matched Nobilette stem and a Shimano 
> headset that I converted from threaded to threadless in my workshop.  
> Rene 
> Herse cranks, brakes, fenders, front rack and pump will be present.  The 
> wheel set is a fancy high tech HED Ardennes RA Black, which is supposed 
> to 
> give premier rim braking.  The drivetrain will be Dura Ace 7900 2x10, and 
> I'll use an NOS Dura Ace metal seat post.  Whether I run 32, 35 or 38 
> tires 
> remains to be seen and depends on whether I run it with fenders to start. 
>  The handlebars will be Nitto Soba Noodles and I'll be using 
> home-modified 
> brakelevers.  Whether I run the front rack and fenders will influence 
> whether I run a handlebar bag, but if I do, I'll make another copy of a 
> home made decaleur that I've been running on two other bikes.  
>
> So from 10,000 feet, I would rate the BUC index fairly low (Build 
> Unconventionality Index).  There's nothing super weird about this build. 
>  My homemade headset, decaleur and brakelevers are not off the shelf, but 
> neither will they draw attention to themselves.  The biggest area of 
> exploration will be the brakes.  Rene Herse Cantilever users claim they 
> are 
> the best thing out there.  It's my opinion as a mechanic that when you 
> use 
> fairly non-adjustable brakes, your best bet is to have a frame builder 
> execute  the build with those brakes in mind, and that's what I've had 
> Nobilette do.  Finally, I notice that in the miles of discourse about 
> braking, everybody talks about setup, mechanical advantage, and brake pad 
> compound (with a bizarre assumption that koolstop salmon is the only 
> choice).  Nobody talks about rims.  The rim surface is at least as 
> important as the brake pads.  I think people don't talk about it because 
> they don't want to consider switching rims, because rims are too 
> expensive 
> to switch.  Everybody either says "my braking is sub-optimal, what am I 
> missing?" or "my braking is awesome, but I can't explain why, or how you 
> can get what I've got".  When I was a shop mechanic, I got a reputation 
> for 
> being a brake-guru.  Some of the local racers would only let me work on 
> their brake systems.  Still, there's a ton I don't know.  I ponied up for 
> a 
> pretty expensive wheel set to see if truly premier rim-braking is 
> something 
> one can buy.  I genuinely don't know what the results will be, but it's 
> one 
> of the aspects I'm looking forward to.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 6:25:28 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:
>
>> Just tremendous. My ideal Riv road is similar to Bill's ideal Riv 
>> road. Can't wait to see how this turns out.
>>
>> Bill, any further teasers you want to share about the build? 
>>
>> Patch in NYC, but pretty soon in OAK, CA
>>
>

[RBW] Re: FS: Vintage Rivendell Cycling Cap

[Conway Bennett]

Sell it on eBay.  A few years ago I sold a similar one there for way more 
than I initially bought it for.

- Captain Conway, formerly of Bainbridge Island 



On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 6:11:19 PM UTC-6 josh.yo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello-
>
> I bought this cap, cleaned it, and then figured out it was too small for 
> my melon head. I'm just looking to get my money back on it. Great looking 
> cap in great shape! It was made by Pace.
>
> *$25/shipped*
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh
> Bainbridge Island, WA
>
> [image: IMG_0347.JPG]
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Considering trading my Ram for a Lightning Bolt

[Conway Bennett]

I have a Crust Canti-Lightning Bolt, and it's one of the best bikes I've 
ever ridden.  The most similar bike I have had to the Ram is two 
Quickbeams, first in a 60, then in a 58--I've sold them both, but I would 
be unlikely to part ways with the Lightning Bolt unless I upgraded somehow 
(e.g., Jeff Lyon).  I think the thing about the Lightning Bolt is that is 
so different than my 650b Hunqapillar that I split my time with--its like 
going from supportive hiking boots to a pair Vans.  They are both 
comfortable, just very different from one another.  Because of my 
experience with the Lightning Bolt, I have been getting more into go fast 
solo rides, and I will probably try to buy the next 59 Canti-Romulus that 
comes up for sale.
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:04:18 AM UTC-5 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> I have been daydreaming about going the opposite direction from the OP. I 
> currently have a v1 lightning bolt that i use for my rambl-y weekend rides 
> and a more recent canti romanceur i use for commuting. I also have a recent 
> sam i use for commuting and errands. i'm thinking about selling the 
> romanceur and, in turn, keeping an eye out for a ram. but i would probably 
> keep it 700c. who knows. 
>
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:45:48 PM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
>> 
>>
>> I recently picked up a 59 Romulus on the list.  I always thought of the 
>> Romulus as the "cheaper Panasonic version of the Rambouillet".  I bought 
>> it, stripped it to the bones, and built it back up in my own idiosyncratic 
>> way.  I built it with 700x38 Gravel King Slicks.  For oddball reasons I 
>> won't get into, I'm not riding it on any "rides" of any distance, but I did 
>> ride it around the block and it felt weird, and unlike any Rivendell I had 
>> ridden before.  It radically understeered.  It was a bad weird, and I 
>> normally am not sensitive to this kind of thing.  I swapped the tires out 
>> for 700x32 Rene Herse Stampede Pass, and shazam, it felt like a normal 
>> bike, like a Rivendell.  
>>
>> This was two around the block test rides.  I have not reverted to the 38s 
>> to see if the bad-weird repeated.  I have not tried 38mm knobbies to see if 
>> it has to do with pneumatic trail and a huge slick contact patch.  Once my 
>> weirdo reasons for not riding it are lifted, then I'll get out on it more 
>> and form a relationship.  I love my build and will give it a VERY thorough 
>> shake down before forming any real lasting opinions.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 7:38:09 AM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>
>>> I'll chime in here that my 650b'd Ram is one of my favorite riding bikes 
>>> in the stable. I always want to max out tire width as much as possible and 
>>> was disappointed that 700x35 tires with fenders didn't fit. I had a 650b 
>>> wheelset and tried 650bx42 and that fit great with room to spare. I've been 
>>> riding that configuration for a few months now.
>>>
>>> It looked like room enough to go one tire size higher (sans fenders). 
>>> Thanks to a fellow lister I had some 650bx48 Rene Herse Switchback Hill 
>>> Tires waiting for me at home yesterday after a long weekend away. This 
>>> morning I swapped em out and they seem to fit just fine. Super excited to 
>>> try this out later this week! 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 5:49:36 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 Alex, your modified Ram is outstanding.  Probably the most nicest, 
 modified Rivendell I've ever seen.

 This whole thread inspired me to wrap up a few things on my own 650b 
 conversion project, an RB-1, and to ride my Ram one last time this 
 weekend.  (It's supposed to start snowing this weekend, so season's over 
 I'm affraid).

 Interesting thing about the Ram, that strikes me every time, is how 
 comfortable or "plush" it feels, despite only having 33.33 tires.  I don't 
 understand why.  When it was new, it made "normal" road bikes, with 23 to 
 28mm tires look positively silly.  As the rest of the industry has caught 
 up and embraced fatter tires, the Ram now "looks' outdated next to a lot 
 of 
 other, newer bikes I saw.  My own tendency is almost always to choose 
 something with fatter tires, too.  But as I said, I'm struck every time by 
 how well it rides and how relevant it still is.  I don’t think I'll ever 
 sell it, even if I have to be "prompted" to ride it once in a while.  I 
 think if I ever felt differently, I'd now consider Alex's example.

 On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:38:16 AM UTC-6 Applegate wrote:

> Hey Max,
>
> I sort of love this dilemma. As much as my platonic ideal of a bike 
> has been shaped by Jan Heine, featuring skinny, thin-wall tubing and a 
> flat 
> top tube, I will definitely back a 650b Ram. I would wholeheartedly 
> recommend MAFAC Raids (or go all-in with the Compass/Rene Herse updates). 

[RBW] Re: Front basket rack recommendations

[Conway Bennett]

I use a Wald 137 attached to a Jack the Bike Rack with a Fifth 
Season/Analog Cycles Squall Sack.  It's secure, and I remove it in moments.

https://wholegraincycles.com/products/jack-the-bike-rack-1cB

https://analogcycles.com/products/fifth-season-squall-sack


On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 12:16:51 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> I love these: Rip Rack from Rat King, Five Rail from Pass & Stow, or the 
> 34F from Nitto.
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 3:26:12 PM UTC-7 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> That Cycles manivelle rack is slick. No zip ties, cool!
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 11:54:33 AM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In the latest PLP video, Russ brings to light a nice basket solution 
>>> from a company called Manivelle. The Le Porteur version is a little less 
>>> than 2 lbs, which is kind of amazing for a basket and rack combination. The 
>>> standard version seems to work well with a basket bag. Looks like you might 
>>> spend under $100 for the Manivelle.
>>>
>>> https://cyclesmanivelle.com/en/-shop/racks-baskets/
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Just found a screamin deal on a fully built 51 Sam. Now it's time to 
 get it kitted out. I love my Pass And Stow for the heavy duty- stuff and 
 aesthetically, it's unmatched IMO. Perhaps a bit of overkill as a simple 
 basket rack. Would love an RBW51 Nitto rack, but not sure I can justify 
 the 
 $288 plus tax. Looking for something simple and elegant and cost-efficient 
 for mounting a Wald 139 Hardware-less Basket and a Tunitas 137 Tote. 
 If anybody has a well used RBW51 that they would be willing to part 
 with, I'd love to hear from you.
 Also looking for other options and would love to see what y'all are 
 using for your Wald 139 Baskets.
 Thanks!
 Alex
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[RBW] Re: Anyone with experience mounting the David Lance Goines Poster?

[Conway Bennett]

I had framebridge do it.  It hung in my daughter's room before we moved.

On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 6:06:49 PM UTC-5 C Lin wrote:

> Riv's website lists the poster  
> as
>  
> 17.5" x 24". I was wondering if any issues mounting it with a standard 18" 
> x 24" frame.
>
> Thank you and best regards,
>
> Carlos in San Diego
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Re: [RBW] Slightly off-topic but (i think) of Riv interest

[Conway Bennett]

Calvin's Dad is said to have ridden a Fat Chance Yo Eddy!

On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 11:42:10 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Kids and bicycles: the defunct but still online strip Calvin and Hobbes 
> has 2 periodic cycling themes: Calvin's own homicidal bike and his father's 
> cycling obsession.
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> Also of cycling literary merit is Flavia de Luce's beloved and 
> anthropomorphized BSA "Keep Fit," named Gladys from Allan Bradley's period 
> detective series (film adaptation apparently to come soon to a theater near 
> you).
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 9:27 AM greenteadrinkers  
> wrote:
>
>> Just down the road from me is the Eric Carle Museum of the Picture Book, 
>> I keep with them via Insta. Just noticed this post for an author reading on 
>> Sunday for a new book called "Wild Blue" Couldn't help but see the bike on 
>> the cover being anything other than an AHH in its classic blue. 
>>
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-09-14 at 10.52.04 AM.png]
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[RBW] WTB: Tall Stack, Short Reach Threadless Stem

[Conway Bennett]

I'm *finally *building my BMC Monstercross, and I think I need a tall 
stack, short reach threadless stem with a removable faceplate and 31.8 
clamp similar to what Riv adjacent brands like Crust or Analog offer, but I 
am open to other suggestions since I exist in the quill ecosystem.  Thanks 
in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Upcoming Riv Ride: Chicago

[Conway Bennett]

Myself and my trusty 650b Hunqapillar are in.  What time are folks
arriving?  Thanks in advance for the refreshments.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Fri, Aug 25, 2023, 3:23 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:

> Chicago Riv Ride tomorrow, Aug 26th!
>
> Mack’s Bike and Goods are expecting us at 10:30 am, where we’ll start. We
> will meet, take photos, shop at their excellent store, and hit the
> Lakefront Trail.
>
> We expect 35-40 miles of fun, with lunch on the route somewhere.
>
> Bring your favorite Rivendell and make merry with us tomorrow in Chicago!
> And if you know you’re coming, please say so in the comments below. Mack’s
> would like a headcount as they plan to have some refreshments.
> Leah and Marc
>
> On Aug 24, 2023, at 7:39 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We are going to get good weather by the skin of our TEETH. The city hit a
> record high yesterday but a cold front is on the way to save our Riv Ride.
>
> Hope to see everyone there on Saturday!
> Leah
>
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 10:08:14 PM UTC-4 R. Alexis wrote:
>
>> Wish it was a different weekend. Would give me an excuse to get back to
>> the Chi and bring the Rivendell Mountain with.  Look forward to seeing pics
>> and posts.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Reginald Alexis
>>
>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 1:49:36 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just a reminder to mark your calendars for the Chicago Riv Ride on Aug
>>> 26th! We’ll start at Mack’s Bike and Goods, the Evanston Riv dealer, at
>>> 1030 and hit the Lakefront Trail from there. We’ll get lunch on the trail,
>>> admire each other’s bikes and make new friends.
>>>
>>> See you then.
>>> Leah and Marc
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 6:13:34 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’m grateful for all the suggestions and may have questions for some of
>>>> you later. Marc is out of town and I’ll chat with him when he gets back and
>>>> we’ll finalize the plan…which may include winging it and deciding on the
>>>> route at the shop!
>>>>
>>>> At any rate, sounds like we are going to get to meet a lot of new
>>>> people and see their bikes and for that, I’m thrilled.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for being so fun!
>>>> Leah
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 5, 2023, at 3:04 PM, Jason  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Hash, glad you think the route is good -- and that's a solid point
>>>> on Sheridan. My map was a bit of a quick sketch to show a concept of
>>>> potential destinations, but I just made a couple updates/improvements based
>>>> on a ride I took up to Baha'i and down the Lakefront Trail in June.
>>>> Connecting to the LFT from Evanston now shows much less of Sheridan and
>>>> much more residential neighborhood before hitting Ardmore and the lake.
>>>> That said, I'm certain there are other ways to improve the connections.
>>>> Whatever direction the Chicago Riv Ride takes, I think it would probably be
>>>> worth getting advice from the folks at Mack's.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:59:12 PM UTC-5 Hash wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Jason, route looks great and I've wanted to see the Bahai house
>>>>> for a minute. Not sure of any alternatives, but throwing it out there that
>>>>> ride down Sheridan is pretty brutal with cars and lack of bike lanes.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:59:12 AM UTC-5 Jason wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like great fun. I hope to attend. Thanks for organizing this,
>>>>>> Leah and Marc!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we are considering other route options, as others are suggesting
>>>>>> perhaps the North Branch Tail could be combined with the Lake Front 
>>>>>> Trail.
>>>>>> I sketched a quick route from Mack's south on the LFT to the North Avenue
>>>>>> Beach, then back north on the LFT until cutting west to Half Acre
>>>>>> Beer Co <https://goo.gl/maps/u5qHDqx1sETeJ6BE7>., which has food,
>>>>>> beer, and an outdoor patio. From there, the ride could connect back to
>>>>>> Mack's via the North Branch Trail, but before stopping, see the nearby 
>>>>>> Baháʼí
>>>>>> House of Worship
>>>>>> <https://en.wik

Re: [RBW] Upcoming Riv Ride: Chicago

[Conway Bennett]

I'd stop before North Avenue Beach.  I suggest heading Northwest at Irving
Park.  You can stop at Wrigley Field which is a much finer tourist trap
than Navy Pier, and then work your way to the North Shore Channel Trail
which goes all the way to Evanston.  There are so many more quality food
and drink options on this route.


Fair winds,

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On Wed, Aug 2, 2023, 8:21 AM Marc Irwin  wrote:

> We don't plan to go as far as McCormick Place.  We're open to suggestions
> for lunch, I picked Navy Pier as a convenient turnaround point for a 35
> mile ride from Mack's.
>
> Marc
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 8:37:55 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I'm sort of in.  There are sections of the Lakefront trail that are
>> great.  I'd recommend avoiding North Avenue to McCormick Place on a
>> Saturday in August.  Also, Navy Pier has little redeeming cultural value
>> and the LFT is a disaster around there despite tens of millions of dollars
>> spent.
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 9:56:38 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m open to options other than Navy Pier, but would request some place
>>> we can sit down and enjoy food and drinks, in keeping with the tradition of
>>> our Riv Rides. If we could sit out on a patio and keep the bikes near,
>>> well, that would be the dream.
>>>
>>> On Aug 1, 2023, at 7:18 PM, Mike Sherman  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Seconding that navy pier will be touristy and packed, but there are a
>>> lot of good options near the trail in Lincoln park and uptown (and
>>> andersonville, and...)
>>>
>>> I'd be happy to convoy up from Hyde Park, and back down if anyone wants
>>> to end at the promontory point fire pits and do something picnic style.
>>>
>>> -Mike
>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 3:32:13 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please take and post photos. I took a very quick trip out to Evanston
>>>> not quite 2 months ago for my daughter's graduate at Northwestern, and we
>>>> took a pleasant hike around the lakeside path outskirting the campus.
>>>> Rather lovely area.
>>>>
>>>> No bike, tho' at first I'd thought of borrowing a Brompton and taking
>>>> Amtrak out from Albuquerque.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 8:04 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> The celebrated Lakefront Trail in Chicago is calling. I’ve never done
>>>>> it but on August 26th, I’ll get the chance..and you’re invited!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mack’s Bike and Goods, the Evanston Rivendell dealer, will be
>>>>> expecting us. We will meet there at a time TBD on the morning of the 26th,
>>>>> visit the shop and then catch the trail from there. We will have lunch at
>>>>> the Navy Pier (restaurant also TBD, locals feel free to weigh in) and ride
>>>>> for maybe a total of 30-40 miles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bring your favorite Rivendell, some mad money to spend at Mack’s if
>>>>> you like, your sparkly personality and join us for our first Chicago Riv
>>>>> Ride.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let us know if you plan to attend!
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Re: [RBW] Upcoming Riv Ride: Chicago

[Conway Bennett]

I'll amend this with the Bike the Drive event is coming up a few weeks 
later, and I would like to do it with a RBW consortium--it's the same ride 
sans cars.

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:

> I'm sort of in.  There are sections of the Lakefront trail that are 
> great.  I'd recommend avoiding North Avenue to McCormick Place on a 
> Saturday in August.  Also, Navy Pier has little redeeming cultural value 
> and the LFT is a disaster around there despite tens of millions of dollars 
> spent.
>
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 9:56:38 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I’m open to options other than Navy Pier, but would request some place we 
>> can sit down and enjoy food and drinks, in keeping with the tradition of 
>> our Riv Rides. If we could sit out on a patio and keep the bikes near, 
>> well, that would be the dream.
>>
>> On Aug 1, 2023, at 7:18 PM, Mike Sherman  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Seconding that navy pier will be touristy and packed, but there are a lot 
>> of good options near the trail in Lincoln park and uptown (and 
>> andersonville, and...)
>>
>> I'd be happy to convoy up from Hyde Park, and back down if anyone wants 
>> to end at the promontory point fire pits and do something picnic style.
>>
>> -Mike 
>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 3:32:13 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Please take and post photos. I took a very quick trip out to Evanston 
>>> not quite 2 months ago for my daughter's graduate at Northwestern, and we 
>>> took a pleasant hike around the lakeside path outskirting the campus. 
>>> Rather lovely area.
>>>
>>> No bike, tho' at first I'd thought of borrowing a Brompton and taking 
>>> Amtrak out from Albuquerque.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 8:04 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> The celebrated Lakefront Trail in Chicago is calling. I’ve never done 
>>>> it but on August 26th, I’ll get the chance..and you’re invited!
>>>>
>>>> Mack’s Bike and Goods, the Evanston Rivendell dealer, will be expecting 
>>>> us. We will meet there at a time TBD on the morning of the 26th, visit the 
>>>> shop and then catch the trail from there. We will have lunch at the Navy 
>>>> Pier (restaurant also TBD, locals feel free to weigh in) and ride for 
>>>> maybe 
>>>> a total of 30-40 miles. 
>>>>
>>>> Bring your favorite Rivendell, some mad money to spend at Mack’s if you 
>>>> like, your sparkly personality and join us for our first Chicago Riv Ride. 
>>>>
>>>> Please let us know if you plan to attend!
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Upcoming Riv Ride: Chicago

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I'm sort of in.  There are sections of the Lakefront trail that are great.  
I'd recommend avoiding North Avenue to McCormick Place on a Saturday in 
August.  Also, Navy Pier has little redeeming cultural value and the LFT is 
a disaster around there despite tens of millions of dollars spent.

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 9:56:38 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I’m open to options other than Navy Pier, but would request some place we 
> can sit down and enjoy food and drinks, in keeping with the tradition of 
> our Riv Rides. If we could sit out on a patio and keep the bikes near, 
> well, that would be the dream.
>
> On Aug 1, 2023, at 7:18 PM, Mike Sherman  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Seconding that navy pier will be touristy and packed, but there are a lot 
> of good options near the trail in Lincoln park and uptown (and 
> andersonville, and...)
>
> I'd be happy to convoy up from Hyde Park, and back down if anyone wants to 
> end at the promontory point fire pits and do something picnic style.
>
> -Mike 
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 3:32:13 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Please take and post photos. I took a very quick trip out to Evanston not 
>> quite 2 months ago for my daughter's graduate at Northwestern, and we took 
>> a pleasant hike around the lakeside path outskirting the campus. Rather 
>> lovely area.
>>
>> No bike, tho' at first I'd thought of borrowing a Brompton and taking 
>> Amtrak out from Albuquerque.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 8:04 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> The celebrated Lakefront Trail in Chicago is calling. I’ve never done it 
>>> but on August 26th, I’ll get the chance..and you’re invited!
>>>
>>> Mack’s Bike and Goods, the Evanston Rivendell dealer, will be expecting 
>>> us. We will meet there at a time TBD on the morning of the 26th, visit the 
>>> shop and then catch the trail from there. We will have lunch at the Navy 
>>> Pier (restaurant also TBD, locals feel free to weigh in) and ride for maybe 
>>> a total of 30-40 miles. 
>>>
>>> Bring your favorite Rivendell, some mad money to spend at Mack’s if you 
>>> like, your sparkly personality and join us for our first Chicago Riv Ride. 
>>>
>>> Please let us know if you plan to attend!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Tumbleweed Persuader Bars, what stem length did you settle on?

[Conway Bennett]

I use a Analog Fingerling stem for the ersuader bars on my Hunqapillar.

On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 10:51:21 PM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:

> +1 on whatbars.com. Great site to compare bars. I use a 90 mm stem with 
> Persuader bars on my Prospector.
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 16, 2023, at 11:31 AM, Jacob Byard  wrote:
>
> If you go to whatbars.com you can pick both the Jones and Persuaders and 
> see how that compare. That may help with determining stem length. I ran the 
> same stem on both bars. 110mm on one bike and 90mm (maybe 100mm?) on 
> another. 
>
>
> -Jacob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 16, 2023, at 2:17 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>   My Jones bars turned out to have more backward sweep than my wrists felt 
> comfortable with, so I ordered some Persuader bars to try out on my 
> Hunqapillar.
>
>I know everyone one's anatomies & riding styles are different, but was 
> curious what stem lengths Persuader bar users tried out and / or settled on?
>
> Thanx,
> John Phillips
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[RBW] Re: PSA: Watch our for scammers in the group

[Conway Bennett]

Yes, lots of lurkers here.  I recently have had issues with questionable 
PayPal payments and having unknown quantities ask a bunch of questions 
about FS: items then disappear.  I actually prefer just selling on eBay now 
because of the grief associated with the list.

On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Peter — This RBW group and all posts are visible to people who are not 
> members. Individuals' email addresses are hidden by Groups when posting. 
> However, if a poster includes their email address in the text of their 
> message it remains visible. 
>
> In my experience iBOB and the CR groups are not visible unless you're a 
> member. 
>
> When I receive emails about items that I've listed for sale from names I 
> don't recognize the first thing I do is search their email address in the 
> forum. If they haven't posted or shared to the group I often ignore the 
> request. 
>
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 3:06:48 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Is this group readable by non-members? I know that Google Groups has 
>> settings that allow an administrator to block reading to anyone who's not 
>> an authorized member, or at least such settings used to exist; the Classic 
>> Rendezvous group uses them. They may be a holdover from some older era of 
>> group settings.
>>
>> There are obviously drawbacks from locking the group off from outside 
>> observers, mostly that you'll get fewer new members if you don't offer a 
>> free taste. But it would cut down on email harvesting.
>>
>> Peter "eternally vigilant, and not at all paranoid, no no no" Adler
>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>
>> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:20:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
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>> Just as a PSA, I have had no prior issues with getting contacted on this 
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Parts for Noodles

[Conway Bennett]

Jason,

I have the levers you're looking for, and I'm local.  I also have a tall 
Technomic in 5 cm extension.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/cwJKiWsXg8Ld6GUB9

On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 8:18:11 PM UTC-5 Jason wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> I’m preparing to try out Noodle bars on my Sam and am looking for the 
> parts below. If you’re interested in unloading, please let me know the 
> condition and price you’re looking for.
>
>
>
>1. Stem - Nitto Tallux 225, 26.0 dia. clamp, 10 or 12cm reach
>2. Brake Levers - Tektro TRP RRL-SR, black or gum hoods
>3. Bar End Shifters - Shimano Dura-Ace SL-BS77
>4. Tires (nor related to the Noodles per se…): RH Bon Jon Pass 700x35
>
>
>
> Shipping is to 60304. Thanks for any offers or leads.
>
>
>
> Jason
>
> Oak Park, IL
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[RBW] ISO: Padded Cycling Gloves Sans Velcro

[Conway Bennett]

Can anyone recommend padded cycling gloves without Velcro--I hate Velcro 
*and* bleach. The background is I'm thinking about leaving the flat 
sections of my drop bars uncovered for a while while I make some 
adjustments.

Thanks in advance.

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[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

[Conway Bennett]

I think I had the number three in my head from a Rivelo post.  I feel like 
I only need two versatile bikes.

On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:45:16 AM UTC-5 Tom Palmer wrote:

> Hi all,
> I recall an article by Grant about the number of bike a person needs with 
> justification. I think it was 7.
>  Any idea which reader it was in?
> Thanks!
> Tom Palmer
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Lamp Holder 2-70 - 26.0mm

[Conway Bennett]

Like it says, I have a Nitto Lamp Holder 2-70 - 26.0mm in excellent used 
condition and no plans for it.  $65 net to me shipped in the lower 48.  If 
you're not familiar,  it's a fare more elegant solution to foam spacer 
blocks.  This is what it looks like: 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185831435739?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=eKv_SppTTh2=2349624=eKv_SppTTh2=_ver=artemis=COPY

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[RBW] FS: Patagonia Lambswool Sweaters, T Shirt, Hard Shell, and DUER Pants

[Conway Bennett]

All,

Sorry for all of FS posts, but here are some clothing items I have that one 
of y'all may want.  Preference goes to known quantities--lurkers need not 
apply, and I'm not responsible for you botching your payment.  That's my 
rant.  Too much grief on the list recently.

Images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/JbYrFUp9jFRfdLyJ8.

3 Patagonia lambswool sweaters.  Small but fits like a slim medium. - 
$73.50 each net to me shipped in the lower 48

Patagonia t shirt size medium that clearly depicts an Atlantis 2 - $31.50 
net to me shipped in the lower 48 

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Re: [RBW] Cantilever Brake Incidentals Nitto, Suntour, Dia Compe, Ritchey, Surly

[Conway Bennett]

$84?

Fair winds,

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On Sat, Mar 4, 2023, 6:19 PM Conway Bennett 
wrote:

> I'm amending this.  $134 net to me shipped in the lower 48.  My pricing is
> 50% off of items that you can still buy new and the lowest price I found on
> online resellers for items that are no longer in production, and I factored
> in the 16% eBay would take if I sold it there.
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119
>
> On Sat, Mar 4, 2023, 3:57 PM Conway Bennett <
> captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's a lot of nice cantilever brake incidentals.  I'm out of that
>> ecosystem, so I want to sell the whole lot.  It's not really worth the
>> grief of running to USPS multiple times and charging folks $9 for $20
>> parts.  The Ritchey/Dia Compe cable stops is 28.8.  Pictures are linked
>> below:
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lsb1onAm77tMs5Hr6
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 55 cm Bosco Bar

[Conway Bennett]

Sold!  Pirate Ship was not that bad either.


Fair winds,

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On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 6:02 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> The way I understand it now is if I wanted the bar I would make sure he
> sees $81 in his account and he pays whatever he can sort out to ship it to
> me. The way I phrase this when I post stuff is "$81 shipped", he says it
> differently.
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 1:01:05 PM UTC-7 jad...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> so is it shipped price or buyer pays shipping I guess I am confused now.
>> which sometimes does not take much.
>>
>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:51:04 AM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Ok it's my misunderstanding of "net", which I read as the bars leave
>>> your place and you've got $81 in your pocket. All cleared up!
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 5:24:19 AM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joe,
>>>>
>>>> My pitch is that you save via not paying tax and shipping.  If you've
>>>> shipped bars you'll get that this is a fair deal.
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 11:17:03 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am I misunderstanding the post or is the bar $81 plus shipping? That's
>>>>> the new price from Riv.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 7:56:12 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a lightly used 55 cm Bosco Bar I took off my wife's bike and
>>>>>> swapped for my Albatross setup.  $81 net to me shipped in the lower 48.
>>>>>> It's in excellent condition,so my pitch is that you save tax and 
>>>>>> shipping.
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Stems

[Conway Bennett]

I had various questions and confusion surrounding this post.  Below is what
a Nitto UI-12 Quill Stem looks like.

$171 net to me shipped in the lower 48 if anyone wants the whole lot.


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On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 11:37 AM jad...@gmail.com  wrote:

> can I get a photo of the UI 12 to ja...@aol.com
>
> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 8:53:10 AM UTC-6 Matt Beecher wrote:
>
>> I'm not personally interested, but I was curious what the UI 12 was.  It
>> seems there may a threaded and threadless version of the stem, according to
>> a very brief Google search.  You may want to clarify that.
>>
>> I'm still on the hunt for a 10cm or longer Nitto hi-riser.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Matt
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bags x Bird Small Short Frame Bag

[Conway Bennett]

Buddy, if you don't know, I don't know.  I'm going to refer you to the
manufacturer's site.


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On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 2:44 PM saintruggler  wrote:

> Any idea if this will fit a 50cm Salsa Marrakesh and still allow use of
> bottle cages?
>
>
> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 5:21:35 AM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> For your consideration is a Bags x Bird Small Short Frame Bag in Coyote
>> XPac for small/medium frames.  I bought this last Summer when I had my son
>> in a front seat and my daughter in a rear seat, so I couldn't run front or
>> rear bags, but they aged out to a Burley before I really put this to
>> use--no signs of wear at all.  $110 net to me shipped in the lower 48, so
>> no wait, tax, or shipping.
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Stems

[Conway Bennett]

Some of y'all are probably doing what I'm doing, and tuning your rides 
while we flirt with Spring.  I am in the the faceplate ecosystem now, so 
here's what's available:

Nitto Technomic 225 mm quill with 5 cm extension.  $41

Nitto Dirt Drop 26.0 clamp with 10 cm extension.  $??? You can buy new at 
Tree Fort Bikes for $43 with free shipping!?

Nitto UI 12 Quill Stem 31.8 clamp with 10 cm extension.  $69

Velo Orange Threadless Stem 26 clamp, +/-17 rise/drop, 7 cm extension.  $28
 
Prices are net to me.  Add $9 for shipping in the lower 48.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 55 cm Bosco Bar

[Conway Bennett]

Joe,

My pitch is that you save via not paying tax and shipping.  If you've 
shipped bars you'll get that this is a fair deal.

On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 11:17:03 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Am I misunderstanding the post or is the bar $81 plus shipping? That's the 
> new price from Riv. 
>
> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 7:56:12 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I have a lightly used 55 cm Bosco Bar I took off my wife's bike and 
>> swapped for my Albatross setup.  $81 net to me shipped in the lower 48.  
>> It's in excellent condition,so my pitch is that you save tax and shipping.
>
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[RBW] FS: Bags x Bird Small Short Frame Bag

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For your consideration is a Bags x Bird Small Short Frame Bag in Coyote 
XPac for small/medium frames.  I bought this last Summer when I had my son 
in a front seat and my daughter in a rear seat, so I couldn't run front or 
rear bags, but they aged out to a Burley before I really put this to 
use--no signs of wear at all.  $110 net to me shipped in the lower 48, so 
no wait, tax, or shipping.

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[RBW] FS: Shimano Bar End Shifters & Suntour XC Pro Thumb Shifters

[Conway Bennett]

I'm doing some Spring bar swapping, and the unintended consequence is that 
I'm inventorying and culling my parts bins.  So, I came up with 2 x 9 
Shimano Bar End Shifters & 3 x 9 Suntour XC Pro Thumb Shifters.  The 
Shimano shifters are well used, so $40 net to me shipped in the lower 48.  
The Suntour shifters are gently used, so $45 net to me shipped in the lower 
48. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: 55 cm Bosco Bar

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I also have a Nitto UI-12 Quill Stem, (31.8) 71 Deg X 100mm Silver that
pairs nicely with this bar assuming you have a shim.  $69 net to me shipped
in the lower 48.


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> swapped for my Albatross setup.  $81 net to me shipped in the lower 48.
> It's in excellent condition,so my pitch is that you save tax and shipping.
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[RBW] FS: 55 cm Bosco Bar

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I have a lightly used 55 cm Bosco Bar I took off my wife's bike and swapped 
for my Albatross setup.  $81 net to me shipped in the lower 48.  It's in 
excellent condition,so my pitch is that you save tax and shipping.

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Re: [RBW] FS: Simworks Homage 26” x 1.95”

[Conway Bennett]

Bumping this.  Despite early interest, these tires are still available.

On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 2:24:22 PM UTC-6 Conway Bennett wrote:

> Keith,
>
> I just replied again directly, so my DMs may be going to Spam.  
> Regardless, they are yours.
>
> I still have new 26" Gravel King tires available, a brand new Handsome 
> built 26" Velocity Dyad wheelset, and 59 cm 1994 Bridgestone XO-3 that are 
> up for grabs.
>
> I'm keeping just 3 bikes--650b Hunqapillar, Crust Canti Bolt, and BMC 
> Monstecross.
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
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> On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 1:42 PM iamkeith  wrote:
>
>>
>> I tried sending a PM from my phone, but am not sure it went through.  
>> Maybe you could send me one?  I didn't mean to jamb this up and block 
>> others indefinitely.  I just won't be at a proper computer for a few days.
>>
>> Also, I was after the pair of simworks tires - not the single gravel king 
>> tire.  That one is great, for anybody looking.  It's too big for my bike, 
>> too.  I'm just looking for the goldilox size like the OP
>> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 2:48:32 AM UTC-10 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to buy them. Im traveling, but look for a PM.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 4:16:26 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great price on a really great tire! I have the 27.5” x 55 on my Clem & 
>>>> they are so nice. Possible to dismiss these as “fashion” tires but they 
>>>> are 
>>>> so much more. And that color is awesome.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 22, 2023, at 5:59 PM, Conway Bennett  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just picked these up, and clearances are too tight.  $105 net to me 
>>>> shipped in the lower 48.  I also have Gravel King 26 x 2.1 new in the 
>>>> package for $106 net to me shipped in the lower 48.
>>>>
>>>> From the seller:
>>>>
>>>> "Simworks Homage 26” x 1.95” MTB tire Limited Color.
>>>>
>>>> Panaracer Simworks Homage 26”x1.95”
>>>>
>>>> This particular color was a limited run and no longer available.
>>>>
>>>> Tires were ridden a few miles on the road but never in dirt or mud. No 
>>>> holes."
>>>>
>>>> Images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/cAV48vkVSoqMKqkM6
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS, NOS Ultegra Q.R. skewers 100/130

[Conway Bennett]

I have multiple new, unused velocity 135 skewers if you need skewers.

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:42:13 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I bought these a couple of weeks ago thinking they would look nice on my 
> Gus build. The rear skewer however is for a 130 spaced frame, Gus is 135. 
> It works but makes me a bit nervous with the threads not going all the way 
> through the "nut". I have no idea how vintage these are but they have that 
> very cool dark blue color - not gray. I thought they looked pretty cool, 
> perhaps someone here would think so too? $30.00 shipped?
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Re: [RBW] Cantilever Brake Incidentals Nitto, Suntour, Dia Compe, Ritchey, Surly

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I'm amending this.  $134 net to me shipped in the lower 48.  My pricing is
50% off of items that you can still buy new and the lowest price I found on
online resellers for items that are no longer in production, and I factored
in the 16% eBay would take if I sold it there.


Fair winds,

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> ecosystem, so I want to sell the whole lot.  It's not really worth the
> grief of running to USPS multiple times and charging folks $9 for $20
> parts.  The Ritchey/Dia Compe cable stops is 28.8.  Pictures are linked
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Re: [RBW] Cantilever Brake Incidentals Nitto, Suntour, Dia Compe, Ritchey, Surly

[Conway Bennett]

$160 net to me shipped in the lower 48?


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On Sat, Mar 4, 2023, 4:21 PM Danny  wrote:

> How much are you asking for the lot?
>
> -Danny
>
> On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 1:57 PM Conway Bennett <
> captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Here's a lot of nice cantilever brake incidentals.  I'm out of that
>> ecosystem, so I want to sell the whole lot.  It's not really worth the
>> grief of running to USPS multiple times and charging folks $9 for $20
>> parts.  The Ritchey/Dia Compe cable stops is 28.8.  Pictures are linked
>> below:
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>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lsb1onAm77tMs5Hr6
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[RBW] Cantilever Brake Incidentals Nitto, Suntour, Dia Compe, Ritchey, Surly

[Conway Bennett]

Here's a lot of nice cantilever brake incidentals.  I'm out of that 
ecosystem, so I want to sell the whole lot.  It's not really worth the 
grief of running to USPS multiple times and charging folks $9 for $20 
parts.  The Ritchey/Dia Compe cable stops is 28.8.  Pictures are linked 
below:

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Re: [RBW] FS: Simworks Homage 26” x 1.95”

[Conway Bennett]

Keith,

I just replied again directly, so my DMs may be going to Spam.  Regardless,
they are yours.

I still have new 26" Gravel King tires available, a brand new Handsome
built 26" Velocity Dyad wheelset, and 59 cm 1994 Bridgestone XO-3 that are
up for grabs.

I'm keeping just 3 bikes--650b Hunqapillar, Crust Canti Bolt, and BMC
Monstecross.


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On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 1:42 PM iamkeith  wrote:

>
> I tried sending a PM from my phone, but am not sure it went through.
> Maybe you could send me one?  I didn't mean to jamb this up and block
> others indefinitely.  I just won't be at a proper computer for a few days.
>
> Also, I was after the pair of simworks tires - not the single gravel king
> tire.  That one is great, for anybody looking.  It's too big for my bike,
> too.  I'm just looking for the goldilox size like the OP
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 2:48:32 AM UTC-10 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> I'd like to buy them. Im traveling, but look for a PM.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 4:16:26 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Great price on a really great tire! I have the 27.5” x 55 on my Clem &
>>> they are so nice. Possible to dismiss these as “fashion” tires but they are
>>> so much more. And that color is awesome.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2023, at 5:59 PM, Conway Bennett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>>
>>> I just picked these up, and clearances are too tight.  $105 net to me
>>> shipped in the lower 48.  I also have Gravel King 26 x 2.1 new in the
>>> package for $106 net to me shipped in the lower 48.
>>>
>>> From the seller:
>>>
>>> "Simworks Homage 26” x 1.95” MTB tire Limited Color.
>>>
>>> Panaracer Simworks Homage 26”x1.95”
>>>
>>> This particular color was a limited run and no longer available.
>>>
>>> Tires were ridden a few miles on the road but never in dirt or mud. No
>>> holes."
>>>
>>> Images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/cAV48vkVSoqMKqkM6
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[RBW] FS: Simworks Homage 26” x 1.95”

[Conway Bennett]

All,

I just picked these up, and clearances are too tight.  $105 net to me 
shipped in the lower 48.  I also have Gravel King 26 x 2.1 new in the 
package for $106 net to me shipped in the lower 48.

>From the seller:

"Simworks Homage 26” x 1.95” MTB tire Limited Color.

Panaracer Simworks Homage 26”x1.95”

This particular color was a limited run and no longer available.

Tires were ridden a few miles on the road but never in dirt or mud. No 
holes."

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[RBW] WTT: My Gravel King SK 26 x 2.1 for Sim Works Homage 26 x 1.95

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I have a new pair of Gravel King SK 26 x 2.1 tires that are a bit too 
chubby that were mounted but not ridden.  I think Sim Works Homage tires 
may work.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Must see bike shops in Philly

[Conway Bennett]

I was aware of Keystone, but I didn't realize it was in Philly.  This is
gonna be an expensive trip.


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On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 1:01 PM Bryan Dalik  wrote:

> Keystone Bicycle Co. 100%. It's one of the better shops in the northeast
> for people who are into Rivendell and the accompanying things. Be sure to
> check it out, wonderful people that run it.
>
> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 7:51:18 PM UTC-5 Steven Sweedler wrote:
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>> Its Via Bicycle, here is a pic of the old storefront
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:47 PM Steven Sweedler 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Definitely check out Via Cycles, on Broads St south of City Hall.
>>> Haven’t been there since they moved but an enormous fascinating collection.
>>> Curtis is the real deal. Mostly if not only used bikes Steve
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:41 PM Conway Bennett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm going back to Philly for a college reunion, so I wanted know of
>>>> must see bike shops in City of Brotherly Love.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance!
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[RBW] FS: Soma Shikoro 700 x 42 Kevlar Bead

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These were on my just sold Quickbeam, and I don't have immediate plans for 
them.  $77 net to me shipped in the lower 48.

 

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[RBW] FS: Panaracer Gravel King SK Tubeless Folding Tires, 26 x 2.1, Black/Brown

[Conway Bennett]

I bought these thinking they would fit my '94 XO-3.  No dice.  They were 
mounted to a brand new wheelset and removed.  $105.98 net to me shipped in 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are Billy Bonkers narrower than listed?

[Conway Bennett]

I can confirm that they run small, but it's still a tight fit on the '94
XO-3.  They are definitely the lightest tires I have ever mounted.  They
feel like rubber bands!


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> Good timing.  I just got these this week, and I will be installing them
> this weekend.
>
> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 10:28:27 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Did you ever try the Billy Bonkers and do you have any feedback about how
>> they compare in size?  Any measurements or photos would be appreciated.
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 10:52:22 AM UTC-7
>> captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I just ordered Billy Bonkers on Amazon for ease of returning them if
>>> they don't work out.  I like the idea of Renee Herse tires, but they are
>>> relatively expensive and I've read enough negative feedback about them that
>>> I have always chose another option.  In this case, I'd probably but
>>> panaracer pasela 1.75s and concede the .05 of width that the Natches Pass
>>> tires offer.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 10:52:56 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Typo: Mine are *41 mm on 21 mm OW rims.*
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 9:51 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ... (mine are 42 mm on 21 mm OW rims) ...
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are Billy Bonkers narrower than listed?

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Good timing.  I just got these this week, and I will be installing them 
this weekend.

On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 10:28:27 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:

> Did you ever try the Billy Bonkers and do you have any feedback about how 
> they compare in size?  Any measurements or photos would be appreciated.
>
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>> I just ordered Billy Bonkers on Amazon for ease of returning them if they 
>> don't work out.  I like the idea of Renee Herse tires, but they are 
>> relatively expensive and I've read enough negative feedback about them that 
>> I have always chose another option.  In this case, I'd probably but 
>> panaracer pasela 1.75s and concede the .05 of width that the Natches Pass 
>> tires offer.
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 10:52:56 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Typo: Mine are *41 mm on 21 mm OW rims.*
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 9:51 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
 ... (mine are 42 mm on 21 mm OW rims) ...

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[RBW] Must see bike shops in Philly

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I'm going back to Philly for a college reunion, so I wanted know of must 
see bike shops in City of Brotherly Love.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Riv Adjacent Wool, Leather, and Patagonia

[Conway Bennett]

I'm also surprised no one bought those Chukka Boots.  I figured they were
very Rivish.


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On Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 7:07 AM Conway Bennett 
wrote:

> I'm adding a newly purchased pair of DUER Stay Dry relaxed fit jeans in
> black size 32x32.  They are stretchy and fit a bit big in the waist.  I
> wore these once, but I'm an all cotton jeans, Carhartt, or Dickies person
> and don't want these lying fallow in my closet.  Very comfy, just not for
> me.  $39 net to me shipped in the USA.  It's what I paid less tax and
> shipping.
>
> On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 4:14:58 PM UTC-6 Conway Bennett wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm decluttering. So, for your consideration is nice use wool, leather,
>> and Patagonia gear.  Prices are net to me and do not include shipping.  To
>> purchase anything please contact me off list.  Thanks in advance!
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yvD2J527DoMkYRxMBGHPmxzg_JARrHaGJyfwpeXZgoY/edit?usp=drivesdk
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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Adjacent Wool, Leather, and Patagonia

[Conway Bennett]

I'm adding a newly purchased pair of DUER Stay Dry relaxed fit jeans in 
black size 32x32.  They are stretchy and fit a bit big in the waist.  I 
wore these once, but I'm an all cotton jeans, Carhartt, or Dickies person 
and don't want these lying fallow in my closet.  Very comfy, just not for 
me.  $39 net to me shipped in the USA.  It's what I paid less tax and 
shipping.

On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 4:14:58 PM UTC-6 Conway Bennett wrote:

> All,
>
> I'm decluttering. So, for your consideration is nice use wool, leather, 
> and Patagonia gear.  Prices are net to me and do not include shipping.  To 
> purchase anything please contact me off list.  Thanks in advance!
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yvD2J527DoMkYRxMBGHPmxzg_JARrHaGJyfwpeXZgoY/edit?usp=drivesdk

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[RBW] FS: Riv Adjacent Wool, Leather, and Patagonia

[Conway Bennett]

All,

I'm decluttering. So, for your consideration is nice use wool, leather, and 
Patagonia gear.  Prices are net to me and do not include shipping.  To 
purchase anything please contact me off list.  Thanks in advance!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yvD2J527DoMkYRxMBGHPmxzg_JARrHaGJyfwpeXZgoY/edit?usp=drivesdk

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[RBW] Re: Bags like the Grabsack?

[Conway Bennett]

I bought two fifth season squall sacks, and I am impressed by their quality 
and simplicity.  You could get a grab sack and have one of the many outdoor 
gear repair companies modify it.  There's a lot of cross pollination and up 
cycling going on.

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 9:23:25 PM UTC-6 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Michael, ditto on the Acorn Basket Bag. While I use a Swift Sugarloaf 
> myself, I have a buddy who has an Acorn basket bag and loves it. (Somewhat 
> smaller than my Sugarloaf, I think.) 
> I am a long-time fan of Acorn and their business model - American cottage 
> industry and pure perfection on their workmanship. I have had a dozen over 
> the years. Nine in rotation currently, since I move some larger bags to 
> storage for summer, when I will bring out smaller bags. All but my mountain 
> bikes typically carry a front and a back bag.
> BTW, I think they are currently phasing out their X-Pac material bags in 
> favor of their original waxed cotton. What's left of the X-Pac bags went on 
> sale and are priced to sell, including the basket bag. If you want one 
> better jump on it.
> While many good bag makers have surfaced since they began production, 
> these bags are a bargain, considering the quality. If memory serves me, 
> back then only Carradice could match - and that company lacked models like 
> front bags, since I suppose the English are hardheaded about their 
> saddlebags, ha. (I have owned many of those myself.)
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 5:12:54 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Hi all, wondering if anyone has any recommendations for bags like the Riv 
>> Grabsack from small-ish makers (i.e. not Timbuk2)? I'm looking for 
>> something like the Grabsack in size/function but with a better strap and 
>> open/close function.
>>
>> Now with winter here, I need more space for gloves, hat, etc. than my 
>> little Swift hipbag can accommodate.
>>
>> Thanks all!
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are Billy Bonkers narrower than listed?

[Conway Bennett]

I just ordered Billy Bonkers on Amazon for ease of returning them if they 
don't work out.  I like the idea of Renee Herse tires, but they are 
relatively expensive and I've read enough negative feedback about them that 
I have always chose another option.  In this case, I'd probably but 
panaracer pasela 1.75s and concede the .05 of width that the Natches Pass 
tires offer.

On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 10:52:56 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Typo: Mine are *41 mm on 21 mm OW rims.*
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 9:51 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> ... (mine are 42 mm on 21 mm OW rims) ...
>>
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[RBW] Re: Are Billy Bonkers narrower than listed?

[Conway Bennett]

RTPs were a non starter on the '94 XO-3.  This bike has been languishing in 
the rafters since 2019 once the original headset was too indexed to 
service.  I had sold off the wheels for it too, but I recently bought a new 
headset and wheelset because I thought the 2.1 gravel kings would be the 
ideal tire.  Maybe I'll parlay my quickbeam and xo-3 into a disc romancer.

On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 9:04:13 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:

> I meant that the 2.1 Gravel Kings are bigger than the 2.3 Rat Trap Pass 
> tires
>
> On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 7:49:56 AM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Don't give up.  I've had this same question.  I put the 2.1 GKs on my 
>> Allrounder last summer.  They fit the frame ok, but are too tight with 
>> fenders.  For what it's worth, the 2.1 GKs are bigger than the 2.1 Rat Trap 
>> Pass tires that were on there previously, which kind of bummed me out.  I 
>> thought 2.1 would be the magic size.  So I'm (purely) guessing the BBs will 
>> be smaller - even if that just means true to size.  If not  maybe RTPs will 
>> work instead of the NPs?  If not, we're all just waiting for 26x1.95 which, 
>> at one point, was the dominant size produced.
>> On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 7:11:54 AM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Garth.  They mounted to the RIM with no tools and minimal 
>>> effort.  It has to do with clearance issues with the frame and fork.  I 
>>> used to run 26 x 50 Schwalbe kojaks with no issue in aeroheat and 
>>> cliffhanger rims, so I presumed the 26 x 2.1 gravel kings would work.
>>>
>>> Anyone want to trade new folding Billy Bonkers, gently used Natches 
>>> Pass, or new Homage tires for a new pair of Gravel Kings?
>>>
>>> Or, I may just be done with idiosyncratic bikes (e.g. Quickbeams and 
>>> Xo-3s).
>>> On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 3:26:25 AM UTC-6 Garth wrote:
>>>
 As for the tire mounting, those Kool Stop Tire Jacks are designed to 
 assist in just what you describe, very difficult "I can't, it won't, etc" 
 tire mountings. 

 Schwalbe states their tires are "usually" a little narrower, but not 
 every specific tire is like that. They state a variation of +/-3mm.  No 
 experience with the Billy Bonkers from me.


 On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 7:10:32 PM UTC-5 captaincon...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I just tried to mount Gravel King 26s to to Dyad rims on my '94 
> XO-3--no dice.  Does anyone have experience with Billy Bonkers?  My 
> history 
> with Schwalbe is tells me that in practice their tires are reliably 
> narrower than listed.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>


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[RBW] Re: Are Billy Bonkers narrower than listed?

[Conway Bennett]

Thanks Garth.  They mounted to the RIM with no tools and minimal effort.  
It has to do with clearance issues with the frame and fork.  I used to run 
26 x 50 Schwalbe kojaks with no issue in aeroheat and cliffhanger rims, so 
I presumed the 26 x 2.1 gravel kings would work.

Anyone want to trade new folding Billy Bonkers, gently used Natches Pass, 
or new Homage tires for a new pair of Gravel Kings?

Or, I may just be done with idiosyncratic bikes (e.g. Quickbeams and Xo-3s).
On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 3:26:25 AM UTC-6 Garth wrote:

> As for the tire mounting, those Kool Stop Tire Jacks are designed to 
> assist in just what you describe, very difficult "I can't, it won't, etc" 
> tire mountings. 
>
> Schwalbe states their tires are "usually" a little narrower, but not every 
> specific tire is like that. They state a variation of +/-3mm.  No 
> experience with the Billy Bonkers from me.
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 7:10:32 PM UTC-5 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I just tried to mount Gravel King 26s to to Dyad rims on my '94 XO-3--no 
>> dice.  Does anyone have experience with Billy Bonkers?  My history with 
>> Schwalbe is tells me that in practice their tires are reliably narrower 
>> than listed.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>

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[RBW] Are Billy Bonkers narrower than listed?

[Conway Bennett]

I just tried to mount Gravel King 26s to to Dyad rims on my '94 XO-3--no 
dice.  Does anyone have experience with Billy Bonkers?  My history with 
Schwalbe is tells me that in practice their tires are reliably narrower 
than listed.

Thanks in advance.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58 cm Green Quickbeam

[Conway Bennett]

Bump.  I got a local offer for $850 for the frameset, but I would prefer to 
sell this here.

On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 11:35:07 AM UTC-6 Conway Bennett wrote:

> Crickets on this, and it just relisted on eBay.  I can sell just the 
> frameset and rear wheel independent of each other.
>
> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 7:11:54 AM UTC-6 Conway Bennett wrote:
>
>> I have an embarrassment of riches, and I don't have time or desire to 
>> make granular decisions about which bike to ride.  I have been riding with 
>> both of my kids lashed to my Hunqapillar, so this bike has been ridden in 
>> over a year, so I think it's time to move it along.  This is a riders bike, 
>> and it has plenty of beausage.  I am at least the second owner, and it has 
>> been well.  It is currently located in Chicagoland, and I have a box ready 
>> to pack and ship it.  The price for the bike as listed below is $1000 net 
>> to me via Chase QuickPay.  Buyer pays for shipping and provides prepaid 
>> shipping label.
>>
>> So, for your consideration is a:
>>
>>- 58 cm Green Quickbeam frameset with surly chain tensioner, 
>>
>>
>>- original but serviced headset, 
>>
>>
>>- 103 velo orange bottom bracket installed by me, 
>>
>>
>>- and an all silver fixed/free velocity built 36h Atlas 120 mm spaced 
>>REAR wheel (I NEED THE FRONT WHEEL) with a new surly fixed cog and white 
>>industries dos eno freewheel.  I also have a velocity single speed 
>> rebuild 
>>kit, but this wheel has relatively light use.
>>
>>
>>- Pictures: https://photos.app.goo.gl/w7P8uR296sQuUUs78
>>
>> - Captain Conway 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Mtn Mixte?

[Conway Bennett]

One of the best Rivs ever.  My wife has the medium, but it was a $900 ish 
frame new.  You could just have a builder clone it (or a small run of 
frames) for under $3k.

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 10:45:32 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/5447624762012579/
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 11:44:59 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> There’s a post on the Facebook Rivendell buy/sell/trade group that has a 
>> Rosco with the lift-a-tube shown for sale. I can’t seem to post the link 
>> here - will try in a second post. It’s $$$ at 3k, but I know people go 
>> crazy for these for some reason, so heads up and maybe a Merry Christmas 
>> present for someone.
>> Leah 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

[Conway Bennett]

I have that poster signed by Grant and framed.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 2:23 PM Eric Marth  wrote:

> I'm enjoying the discussion, pics and details!
>
> Does anyone have a higher-res version of this absurd Hunq poster?
>
> [image: 440ebc01ea30bd8ba7f7e5328708bea2--urban-life-bicycle-art.jpg]
>
> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 3:11:30 PM UTC-5 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>
>> This is certainly an interesting and complex question and I am in no
>> position to provide any answers or guidance but think it's further
>> complicated by overall cost changes over time and how it's been mentioned
>> before how some of the Tolkien models like Bombadil & Legolas essentially
>> became off menu, non-custom customs - wasn't it something like a stock geo
>> Nobilette built but non-Joe Bell paint frame so significantly less than a
>> full custom and more of a made-to-order with the custom builder... in other
>> words, were they ever actually being made in the same exact place, even
>> when both were MUSA?
>>
>> Years ago before acquiring my 65cm Clem H I actually posed a similar
>> question to Will regarding the Waterford made A.Homer Hilsen vs. Waterford
>> made 64cm Sam Hillborne, which was the only MUSA made Hillborne size at the
>> time, and had me wondering what, if anything, would ultimately make the two
>> differ in overall cost/value/performance when considering a made to order
>> canti-equipped countrybike with both options going through Waterford.  I
>> was just over the recommended pbh range for the production 62cm Hillborne
>> and understood going to Waterford for a 64cm Sam would essentially
>> eliminate the value gained from the Taiwan production Sam's so I really was
>> just looking to verify whether the ultimate difference may more or less
>> boil down to a visual one with the sloping Hillborne vs. the more
>> horizontal Homer, if overall costs and tubing at that size would
>> effectively balance out.  The whole discussion ended up being moot since
>> this was in fact right at the time the 64cm Sam was already pulled and they
>> just hadn't gotten around the updating the site yet to reflect the changes
>> and Riv's recommendation became a 67cm AHH by default.  Of course, the 65cm
>> Clem H was also about to be released and ultimately meet my value based
>> mega size Rivendell biking needs.
>>
>> Brian Cole
>> Lawrence NJ
>>
>> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 2:29:05 PM UTC-5 jasonz...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've often wondered what made the Hunq the "less expensive Bombadil"
>>> given the tubing being as Grant calls "the most expensive tubes around".
>>> I'm assuming it was based on it being MIT and the Bomba being a MUSA
>>> frame?  IF so, were they equally priced once the Hunq moved to MUSA
>>> Waterford, why/why not?  I figured it was something similar to the
>>> manufacturing locations of the Quickbeam/SimpleOne with the exception that
>>> those two have identical geometry and the Hunq/Bomba are different.  I'm
>>> only asking because its often referred here as the cheaper bomba, but I was
>>> of the understanding it was more like the 700c bike (hunq) and the bomba
>>> was the 650b earlier option.
>>>
>>> Probably a messy way to ask but to clean it up, can anyone tell me if
>>> the Hunq was actually that much cheaper once it was moved to Wisconsin and
>>> also if the tubing stayed the same once it was manufactured in the US?
>>>
>>> thanks! Love these two bikes and this thread!
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 11:44:50 AM UTC-6 Dick Combs wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are the same, both the originals that came with the frame
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 11:24:59 AM UTC-5 J J wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cool pair of Hunqs! are the forks different? Or is it just the photo
>>>>> angle that makes the curve on the fork on the one with the black saddle
>>>>> look different?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 6:56:43 AM UTC-5 Dick Combs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: 61977D70-55E2-4782-A93A-A8333171AFD6.jpeg][image:
>>>>>> 7A5D4923-2037-4ACB-81D6-3091B473A0FB.jpeg]My two Hunqs
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Re: [RBW] Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

[Conway Bennett]

Hunqapillars we're $1850 in 2011 when I became aware of them.  I paid $2000 
for a used 650b which was the final iteration.  I feel like it cost $2500 
new.

On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 1:32:41 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote:

> For one thing, the Hunqapillar did not have the lower head tube - down 
> tube lug extension like the Bombadil.
>
> Laing
>
> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 2:29:05 PM UTC-5 jasonz...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I've often wondered what made the Hunq the "less expensive Bombadil" 
>> given the tubing being as Grant calls "the most expensive tubes around". 
>>  I'm assuming it was based on it being MIT and the Bomba being a MUSA 
>> frame?  IF so, were they equally priced once the Hunq moved to MUSA 
>> Waterford, why/why not?  I figured it was something similar to the 
>> manufacturing locations of the Quickbeam/SimpleOne with the exception that 
>> those two have identical geometry and the Hunq/Bomba are different.  I'm 
>> only asking because its often referred here as the cheaper bomba, but I was 
>> of the understanding it was more like the 700c bike (hunq) and the bomba 
>> was the 650b earlier option.  
>>
>> Probably a messy way to ask but to clean it up, can anyone tell me if the 
>> Hunq was actually that much cheaper once it was moved to Wisconsin and also 
>> if the tubing stayed the same once it was manufactured in the US?
>>
>> thanks! Love these two bikes and this thread!
>> Jason
>>
>> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 11:44:50 AM UTC-6 Dick Combs wrote:
>>
>>> They are the same, both the originals that came with the frame
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 11:24:59 AM UTC-5 J J wrote:
>>>
 Cool pair of Hunqs! are the forks different? Or is it just the photo 
 angle that makes the curve on the fork on the one with the black saddle 
 look different?

 On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 6:56:43 AM UTC-5 Dick Combs wrote:

> [image: 61977D70-55E2-4782-A93A-A8333171AFD6.jpeg][image: 
> 7A5D4923-2037-4ACB-81D6-3091B473A0FB.jpeg]My two Hunqs
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 58 cm Green Quickbeam

[Conway Bennett]

Crickets on this, and it just relisted on eBay.  I can sell just the 
frameset and rear wheel independent of each other.

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 7:11:54 AM UTC-6 Conway Bennett wrote:

> I have an embarrassment of riches, and I don't have time or desire to make 
> granular decisions about which bike to ride.  I have been riding with both 
> of my kids lashed to my Hunqapillar, so this bike has been ridden in over a 
> year, so I think it's time to move it along.  This is a riders bike, and it 
> has plenty of beausage.  I am at least the second owner, and it has been 
> well.  It is currently located in Chicagoland, and I have a box ready to 
> pack and ship it.  The price for the bike as listed below is $1000 net to 
> me via Chase QuickPay.  Buyer pays for shipping and provides prepaid 
> shipping label.
>
> So, for your consideration is a:
>
>- 58 cm Green Quickbeam frameset with surly chain tensioner, 
>
>
>- original but serviced headset, 
>
>
>- 103 velo orange bottom bracket installed by me, 
>
>
>- and an all silver fixed/free velocity built 36h Atlas 120 mm spaced 
>REAR wheel (I NEED THE FRONT WHEEL) with a new surly fixed cog and white 
>industries dos eno freewheel.  I also have a velocity single speed rebuild 
>kit, but this wheel has relatively light use.
>
>
>- Pictures: https://photos.app.goo.gl/w7P8uR296sQuUUs78
>
> - Captain Conway 
>

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[RBW] Re: What's Good - Wide-ish/flared drops edition...

[Conway Bennett]

Here's a pre-dug rabbit hole: https://bikepacking.com/index/gravel-bars/

On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 5:07:48 PM UTC-6 Conway Bennett wrote:

> I'd look at Curve WALMER Bar 
> <https://www.curvecycling.com.au/products/walmer-bars>, Redshift Kitchen 
> Sink <https://redshiftsports.com/pages/kitchen-sink-handlebar>, or Ride 
> Farr Supa-Wide 
> <https://ridefarr.com/product/supa-wide-alloy-drop-handlebar-v2/>.
>
> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 2:25:04 PM UTC-6 Rusty Click wrote:
>
>> Plus one for the Spank Flare.
>>
>> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 9:36:15 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey everyone!
>>> I posted earlier about reach in converting to a wider bar and decided to 
>>> start a different conversation to get opinions on wide-ish, flared drops.
>>>
>>> I like the Nitto Noodle quite well, but I think I do want a little flare 
>>> and I don't want to bend them myself. So what's good out there? I'm tempted 
>>> by the Crust Towel Rack, but I'd love to hear what you all like.
>>>
>>> If it helps/matters, the kind of riding I do with the bike it's going is 
>>> casual rails-to-trails, some rolling gravel roads, but nothing too 
>>> technical or serious.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Ben
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: What's Good - Wide-ish/flared drops edition...

[Conway Bennett]

I'd look at Curve WALMER Bar 
, Redshift Kitchen 
Sink , or Ride 
Farr Supa-Wide 
.

On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 2:25:04 PM UTC-6 Rusty Click wrote:

> Plus one for the Spank Flare.
>
> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 9:36:15 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone!
>> I posted earlier about reach in converting to a wider bar and decided to 
>> start a different conversation to get opinions on wide-ish, flared drops.
>>
>> I like the Nitto Noodle quite well, but I think I do want a little flare 
>> and I don't want to bend them myself. So what's good out there? I'm tempted 
>> by the Crust Towel Rack, but I'd love to hear what you all like.
>>
>> If it helps/matters, the kind of riding I do with the bike it's going is 
>> casual rails-to-trails, some rolling gravel roads, but nothing too 
>> technical or serious.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Ben
>>
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Re: [RBW] Is there a 31.8 clamp drop bar comparable to a Nitto Noodle 54cm?

[Conway Bennett]

Scott,

I ride tumbleweed prospector bars for the last 6 months with a discord 
fingerling stem, but I like drops but got used to the width.  I did 
purchase the new 54 cm Nitto noodle, but I have not ridden it yet.  My dark 
horse pick for wide bars is the vo rando bar that comes in 50 cm wide.  
Since I have these, I can't justify the Renee Herse option at 4x the price.



On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 11:57:31 AM UTC-6 Scott wrote:

> Conway, thanks for the tip.
>
> I just looked, and those Ride Farr drops are Supa-Wide...up to 750 mm!
>
> Ima get one on the shipping truck, in addition to the RH Randonneur I 
> ordered prior to reading your post. Options are good, usually. Sometimes I 
> plex too much on options...haha.
>
> Onward,
>
> Scott
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 10:20:38 AM MST, Conway Bennett <
> captaincon...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> I switched to the 31.8 faceplate ecosystem and gave been flirting with the 
> Ride 
> Farr Supa-Wide by Nitto. 
> <https://ridefarr.com/product/supa-wide-alloy-drop-handlebar-v2/>
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 10:34:10 AM UTC-6 Scott wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> Are you in same position I am, looking for a 31.8 drop?
>
> Did you see the RH Maes Parallel on the their site?
>
> Thoughts?!
>
> Has anyone else tried the RH Randonneur or Maes Parallel? Takes, please?
>
> Best,
>
> Scott
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 05:37:57 AM MST, Steven Sweedler <
> swee...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Scott, yesterday on the Bob list I asked about comparisons of the Noodle 
> and the RH Randonneur bar that comes in 31.8. The two responders liked both 
> bars and had used them for years. Steve
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 PM 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey, all:
>
> I'm wanting to try a 54cm Nitto Noodle drop, but I want to keep my 31.8 
> Faceplater to facilitate cockpit changes.
>
> Anyone know of a comparable bar or solution? Maybe I should just get a 
> Noodle and stem for change outs...
>
> Also, am I on the right track going with a Noodle (54cm cuz I'm tall)? I 
> plan on using it as a cockpit option for my Atlantis build.
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Scott
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Re: [RBW] Is there a 31.8 clamp drop bar comparable to a Nitto Noodle 54cm?

[Conway Bennett]

I switched to the 31.8 faceplate ecosystem and gave been flirting with the Ride 
Farr Supa-Wide by Nitto. 


On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 10:34:10 AM UTC-6 Scott wrote:

> Steve,
>
> Are you in same position I am, looking for a 31.8 drop?
>
> Did you see the RH Maes Parallel on the their site?
>
> Thoughts?!
>
> Has anyone else tried the RH Randonneur or Maes Parallel? Takes, please?
>
> Best,
>
> Scott
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 05:37:57 AM MST, Steven Sweedler <
> swee...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Scott, yesterday on the Bob list I asked about comparisons of the Noodle 
> and the RH Randonneur bar that comes in 31.8. The two responders liked both 
> bars and had used them for years. Steve
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 PM 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey, all:
>
> I'm wanting to try a 54cm Nitto Noodle drop, but I want to keep my 31.8 
> Faceplater to facilitate cockpit changes.
>
> Anyone know of a comparable bar or solution? Maybe I should just get a 
> Noodle and stem for change outs...
>
> Also, am I on the right track going with a Noodle (54cm cuz I'm tall)? I 
> plan on using it as a cockpit option for my Atlantis build.
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Scott
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[RBW] Re: How you choose 2 Rivendells?

[Conway Bennett]

I have my Hunqapillar and my partner has a Rosco Bubbaloosa ATB Mixte, so 
that's two.  I currently have a Quickbeam too, but that's on its own way 
out.  I also owned a Sam Hillborne, but gasp, I was never comfortable 
enough on it.  The only current Riv that I like is the Appaloosa, but it 
would be redundant.  I have always wanted a canti-Romulus or an All Rounder 
and would buy either if it wasn't a hassle in any way.

On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 5:16:02 AM UTC-6 Masa wrote:

> Hi Luke! Thank you for your post, your Atlantis must be an amazing looking 
> bike!
> It's nice that you can enjoy cruising, trailing and even commuting with 
> one bike. In my case there aren't many trails near here in Tokyo so that I 
> made my Platypus as a commuter/grocery bike (43c semi slicked Gravel King, 
> RMX pedal, chain guard, basket and fenders etc).
>
> I'm happy with the current build of my Platypus so I would rather keep it 
> as it is than installing too much stuff to spoil the purpose of the bike.
> Therefore I can understand that you would like to keep the Atlantis as-is 
> and own another one even though Atlantis (also Platypus) is called 
> all-rounder.
>
> I hope you will have a good feeling and luck with the next batch of 
> Roadini (if I'm not mistaken, you mean there will be lugged Roadinis!?).
> I will ride the Platypus more and see which one would be good for my 
> second Riv or even the Platypus actually does all for me.
> Until then let's enjoy our current bikes!
>
> Masa
>  
>
> 2022年12月6日火曜日 15:10:21 UTC+9 Luke Hendrickson:
>
>>
>> Hey Masa!
>>
>> Great question. I currently have a MIT Atlantis set up with cantilevers 
>> and a rack and larger Maxxis tires (29” x 2.4” in the front and 29” x 2.3” 
>> in the rear). I’ve found that it’s a pleasurable upright cruiser around San 
>> Francisco, a real ripper on mtb trails in Marin, and a wonderful commuter. 
>> I believe that it would fender rather well and be a great bike to do some 
>> randonneuring as well. The main reason I would get another Riv would be to 
>> keep thus bike as-is rather than changing it each time I wanted to do more 
>> road-ish riding with fenders. Then again, fenders and a tire change/second 
>> wheelset would solve that. 
>>
>> I have been anxiously awaiting the next lugged iteration of the Roadini. 
>> I tried Will’s out not long after this last batch and it was a smooth and 
>> stable bike. Nimble and grounded while being zippy, I immediately wanted to 
>> build up a road bike around that frame. As is, I’m going to wait it out for 
>> the next batch of them and see how I feel then.
>> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:52:42 PM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, I would like to ask you how you would choose 2 Rivendells if you 
>>> could own.
>>>
>>> Which models? What kind of purposes? What kind of weather? What kind of 
>>> roads? Any definition is welcome.
>>>
>>> I'm currently riding a Platypus and I feel like I can ride it everywhere 
>>> for any purpose as Riv says it's an All-rounder so I just would like to 
>>> know how you would add one more Riv or how you are riding 2 Rivs already as 
>>> a reference (possibly for my future 2nd Riv).
>>>
>>> I hope you enjoy the topic!
>>>
>>> Masa
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] FS: 58 cm Green Quickbeam

[Conway Bennett]

I have an embarrassment of riches, and I don't have time or desire to make 
granular decisions about which bike to ride.  I have been riding with both 
of my kids lashed to my Hunqapillar, so this bike has been ridden in over a 
year, so I think it's time to move it along.  This is a riders bike, and it 
has plenty of beausage.  I am at least the second owner, and it has been 
well.  It is currently located in Chicagoland, and I have a box ready to 
pack and ship it.  The price for the bike as listed below is $1000 net to 
me via Chase QuickPay.  Buyer pays for shipping and provides prepaid 
shipping label.

So, for your consideration is a:

   - 58 cm Green Quickbeam frameset with surly chain tensioner, 


   - original but serviced headset, 


   - 103 velo orange bottom bracket installed by me, 


   - and an all silver fixed/free velocity built 36h Atlas 120 mm spaced 
   REAR wheel (I NEED THE FRONT WHEEL) with a new surly fixed cog and white 
   industries dos eno freewheel.  I also have a velocity single speed rebuild 
   kit, but this wheel has relatively light use.


   - Pictures: https://photos.app.goo.gl/w7P8uR296sQuUUs78

- Captain Conway 

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[RBW] Re: Blatant shoutout for Road Runner Bags

[Conway Bennett]

Road Runner Bags are the best bicycle bags.  The Jumbo Jammer is my all 
time favorite bag.  I also have the Mini-Rando bag VO sells which is well 
executed and a bargain.

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 4:06:05 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:

> Nice Joe! I've had my eyes on one of their Jammer bags for a while. I need 
> to move my cargo up front now that I'm riding with a copilot attached to my 
> seat tube. 
>
> It's worth mentioning that they make bags for Velo Orange too!
>
> Paul in Arr
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:59:39 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I've bought and sold a few of these and really like them a lot..made in 
>> Los Angeles, CA. USA! 
>>
>> This my new Burrito Bag (the small one) in turmeric (looks gold) and pink 
>> on my dark blue Bike Friday. I think it would look great on a Mermaid 
>> Platypus, Appaloosa or Gus. Road Runner Bags, they're good! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Granola-Moose Bar?

[Conway Bennett]

These bars remind me of the Rawland "Antler?" Bars.

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 9:55:46 AM UTC-6 George Schick wrote:

> Indeed.  I once reset the rear dropout width on a frame using a long 2x4; 
> a string tied to one of the dropouts, wound around the head tube, and tied 
> to the opposite dropout; and a caliper.  Worked just fine.
>
>
> On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 9:03:55 AM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>
>> The wonderful thing about steel, is that it can be bent, within reason, 
>> with a little "persuasion". Not as easily as loosening a clamp, but it can 
>> be done, and once set it never slips. All you need is a good vice, some 
>> wood to protect the finish, a long lever, and the serenity to accept that 
>> you might screw things up.
>>
>> Laing
>> Who has broken a lot of things over the years
>>
>> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 7:44:31 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> My exact experience also. I really wanted to like my Boscomoose. But the 
>>> fixed angle did not work for me. That VO bar is pretty though…
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 18, 2022, at 7:11 PM, Conway Bennett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I like the idea of moose bars but I don't like it them in practice.  I 
>>> like my wrists in a neutral position, and with a moose bar that is not a 
>>> given.  Plus, once you realize this, they are relatively expensive to ship 
>>> to a new owner.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:53:34 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is extremely subjective and it matters a lot what the headtube 
>>>> angle is on the frame the bar is going on, but I had a ChocoMoose for a 
>>>> while (Cheviot? I think it was on a Cheviot) and the angle seemed fine to 
>>>> me. 
>>>>
>>>> If it matters at all to you the Granola-Moose has a lot more 
>>>> flare/splaying-out than Choco. 
>>>>
>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 3:34:44 PM UTC-8 George Schick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I got an email from VO today introducing a new product - the 
>>>>> "Granola-Moose Bar."  Now, VO has always seemed to me to keep in 
>>>>> semi-lock 
>>>>> step with Riv and in this case I'd call it a variant of the Nitto 
>>>>> Choco-Moose bar that they (used to?) sell.  The three differences I 
>>>>> notice 
>>>>> (maybe 3 1/2) are: the VO offering is in 1 1/8" threadless instead of a 
>>>>> welded-in quill stem, it has a "cross bar" between the two curved handles 
>>>>> with a slightly flattened section to allow for the mounting of lights, 
>>>>> etc., it's available in both black and chrome, oh and it's about 2/3 the 
>>>>> price that the Riv/Nitto version is/was.
>>>>>
>>>>> Laying all of that aside for the moment, what opinion do any of you 
>>>>> all have about the Nitto bar that Riv offered if you have one?  I'm 
>>>>> thinking of buying one of the VO versions to replace the "cow horn" bar 
>>>>> that I currently have installed on my Surly 1x1 because 1) it has a 
>>>>> threadless steerer and the Nitto won't/wouldn't work and 2) it comes in a 
>>>>> black version and everything else on my headset, current threadless stem, 
>>>>> and bars is black and I'd like to keep it that way.  BUT, and this is an 
>>>>> item that I'd really like some feedback about, both of these bars, i.e. 
>>>>> from either company, have a fixed, unadjustable angle because they're 
>>>>> welded to the stem (or threadless clamp).  Has that lack of adjustment 
>>>>> bar 
>>>>> angle capability been a problem for any of the Choco-Moose users out 
>>>>> there?
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[RBW] Re: Granola-Moose Bar?

[Conway Bennett]

I like the idea of moose bars but I don't like it them in practice.  I like 
my wrists in a neutral position, and with a moose bar that is not a given.  
Plus, once you realize this, they are relatively expensive to ship to a new 
owner.

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:53:34 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> This is extremely subjective and it matters a lot what the headtube angle 
> is on the frame the bar is going on, but I had a ChocoMoose for a while 
> (Cheviot? I think it was on a Cheviot) and the angle seemed fine to me. 
>
> If it matters at all to you the Granola-Moose has a lot more 
> flare/splaying-out than Choco. 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 3:34:44 PM UTC-8 George Schick wrote:
>
>> I got an email from VO today introducing a new product - the 
>> "Granola-Moose Bar."  Now, VO has always seemed to me to keep in semi-lock 
>> step with Riv and in this case I'd call it a variant of the Nitto 
>> Choco-Moose bar that they (used to?) sell.  The three differences I notice 
>> (maybe 3 1/2) are: the VO offering is in 1 1/8" threadless instead of a 
>> welded-in quill stem, it has a "cross bar" between the two curved handles 
>> with a slightly flattened section to allow for the mounting of lights, 
>> etc., it's available in both black and chrome, oh and it's about 2/3 the 
>> price that the Riv/Nitto version is/was.
>>
>> Laying all of that aside for the moment, what opinion do any of you all 
>> have about the Nitto bar that Riv offered if you have one?  I'm thinking of 
>> buying one of the VO versions to replace the "cow horn" bar that I 
>> currently have installed on my Surly 1x1 because 1) it has a threadless 
>> steerer and the Nitto won't/wouldn't work and 2) it comes in a black 
>> version and everything else on my headset, current threadless stem, and 
>> bars is black and I'd like to keep it that way.  BUT, and this is an item 
>> that I'd really like some feedback about, both of these bars, i.e. from 
>> either company, have a fixed, unadjustable angle because they're welded to 
>> the stem (or threadless clamp).  Has that lack of adjustment bar angle 
>> capability been a problem for any of the Choco-Moose users out there?
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: The do-it-all Rivendell of choice

[Conway Bennett]

The Clem Smith/tine use the Hunqapillar fork.  I have it in my head that 
those forks were produced in Taiwan and the frame in the USA.

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 10:41:26 AM UTC-6 jcbrya...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Everyone choosing the Hunqapillar makes me mighty envious, especially 
> since those are long gone. To all the Hunq owners: what bike in Riv's 
> current catalog fills that role now? Is it the Appaloosa, their 
> heavier-duty road touring frame? Or is the Hunqapillar the genetic 
> precursor to the current iteration of the Atlantis? It looks to be a cool 
> bike that represents the transition between classic Riv geometry and the 
> more extreme long wheelbase swoopy bikes they're making now. Interesting to 
> see how the bikes and designs have evolved over time.
> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:38:23 AM UTC-6 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm a serious under-biker, so I'd probably pick a Roadini or A Homer 
>> Hilsen.   For years I only owned a single road bike as my do-it-tall bike. 
>> My touring frame takes at most 32mm tires but I'd actually tour on 25mm 
>> tires. Everywhere I rode people would swear up and down that I needed a 
>> mountain bike to do certain rides I was planning on doing, and yet I'd 
>> manage to ride just fine. I finally ordered a pair of Continental 
>> TerraSpeed, and I'm going to look forward to tackling certain rides that 
>> I'd previously done on the mountain bike with a much ligher, more agile 
>> bike --- the Roadini.
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 1:35:25 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> The threads on Platypus versus [name] and using versus "saving" your 
>>> Rivendell raises an interesting if (fortunately!) academic question: if you 
>>> could have only 1 Rivendell as your only bicycle, and that Rivendell had to 
>>> serve all purposes -- fast pavement, commuting, errand loads, at least 
>>> light dirt and gravel: what model would you choose and how would you build 
>>> and equip it?
>>>
>>> I'm fortunate to have a bike for each of my purposes, except a 
>>> theft-be-damned but fun to ride grocery beater, which I hope to add to the 
>>> collection*, but if I had to choose just 1 and that a Riv, it would be my 
>>> gofast with a second set of wheels shod with 42 mm Naches Passes (which fit 
>>> with room to spare under the front normal reach single pivot) but not bolt 
>>> anything else to the Riv. Lights: I have an excellent B Ixon IQ Premium 
>>> which puts out at least as much brightness and has a nicer beam pattern 
>>> than my Edeluxe I, and Cateye clamps are cheap and easy to find. There are 
>>> all sorts of bright, strap-on blinkies for the rear. I'd rig up a QR for my 
>>> Saddlesack Medium and attach it with the Nitto standoff only as needed, and 
>>> augment it with a courier bag in 1 of 3 sizes. I'd get some clip-on, easy 
>>> on/off fenders, shorties if need be -- hell, this is New Mexico. 
>>>
>>> Wheels: Actually, I might do as I did decades ago when I tried to make a 
>>> mountain bike do triple duty with 3 wheelsets: gofast with 23 mm tires and 
>>> 12-19 (7-sp) cassette, commuting with 35 mm tires with 13-21, and off road 
>>> with knobbies and 14-28. The Phil fixed/fixed with Elk Pass would keep the 
>>> 17/19 Dingle and the 28 mm Elk Passes, but I'd have another Elk Pass rear 
>>> for the TC fixed hub with 17 t cog for 76" direct and 66" underdrive; and 
>>> then I'd have a third wheeset for Naches Passes with the fixed TF hub with 
>>> a 19 t cog and the Naches Passes for 70" and 52"; good pavement-to-moderate 
>>> dirt ratios.
>>>
>>> Of course, I'd have to overcome the scruple of keeping this bike 
>>> pristine  Funny, I usually take a brief detour for a mile or 
>>>  mile-and-a-half along a very busy 6-lane when I ride North from my house 
>>> because the direct route is dusty, sandy crusher fine. Would have to 
>>> strenuously overcome that vice.
>>>
>>> * Actually, one reason for this 5th beater bike would be just the fun of 
>>> building up a bike that rides nice and meets my gearing and handling 
>>> preferences at the lowest possible price.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: The do-it-all Rivendell of choice

[Conway Bennett]

I nominate my 650b Hunqapillar.  It's the most comfortable bike I've 
ridden, and it's geometry doesn't seem to be intended for drops, flat, or 
upright handlebars--it feels different but good with each.

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:35:43 AM UTC-6 Chris L wrote:

> [image: 20210614_081755.jpg]
>
> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 1:20:20 AM UTC-6 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> This is a fun one! I guess that I’ll kinda cop out and say that what I 
>> have now is what I’d run as a do-it-all. I really like the Gus but I see it 
>> as a 75% unpaved sorta bike which is why I’m pretty happy with my Atlantis. 
>> I live and ride in San Francisco and so see a lot of elevation changes both 
>> while commuting and while riding aimlessly. Thus my current setup (44-32-22 
>> up front, 12-32 in the rear) allows me to take on the steepest San 
>> Francisco hill and gnarliest unpaved route in Marin.
>>
>> The addition of the basket has made it a true quiver killer in my eyes 
>> and makes me so happy that I no longer view baskets with disdain. I was 
>> sorely missing out. I’ve been a long time admirer (I saw my first Riv in 
>> 2008) but I’m a new owner (August of this year). I’m sure my answer will 
>> change over time, but, for now, the Atlantis is all that I need. 
>>
>> Also also: I just did the attached route and featured a lot of rough 
>> terrain with the final 40 miles being exclusively paved. The Atlantis was 
>> supremely comfortable on all of it. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 8:15:13 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I have one Riv that already does all this, but I'm cheating the premise 
>>> of the thread cuz it's a custom I had built for the purpose. So I'll shift 
>>> my answer to: What if I didn't have a car and part of the ride to go 
>>> shopping included gnarly singletrack! 
>>>
>>> Ok the answer is Gus Boots-Willsen. I'd move most of my parts over:
>>> SRAM 1x11 drivetrain
>>> Sugino 152mm 36t cranks (maybe a smaller front ring, I don't care much 
>>> about spinning out)
>>> Deity pedals 
>>> WI rear hub
>>> Velocity Atlas rims
>>> Bosco bars
>>> Face Plater stem
>>> Nitto post
>>> Brooks B17
>>> Paul Motolites and levers
>>> Nitto Big Rack
>>>
>>> I'd swap the front hub for a SON Dyno, a move I wish I'd done when I had 
>>> Rick build my wheels. 
>>> Would probably add front low-rider racks. 
>>>
>>> This would give me all the stuff I love about Rivs (except lugs..don't 
>>> tell anybody but I love the fillet welds on Gus, my custom has a couple, 
>>> too) in a stouter frame that will handle big loads and gnarly terrain. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 1:35:25 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 The threads on Platypus versus [name] and using versus "saving" your 
 Rivendell raises an interesting if (fortunately!) academic question: if 
 you 
 could have only 1 Rivendell as your only bicycle, and that Rivendell had 
 to 
 serve all purposes -- fast pavement, commuting, errand loads, at least 
 light dirt and gravel: what model would you choose and how would you build 
 and equip it?

 I'm fortunate to have a bike for each of my purposes, except a 
 theft-be-damned but fun to ride grocery beater, which I hope to add to the 
 collection*, but if I had to choose just 1 and that a Riv, it would be my 
 gofast with a second set of wheels shod with 42 mm Naches Passes (which 
 fit 
 with room to spare under the front normal reach single pivot) but not bolt 
 anything else to the Riv. Lights: I have an excellent B Ixon IQ Premium 
 which puts out at least as much brightness and has a nicer beam pattern 
 than my Edeluxe I, and Cateye clamps are cheap and easy to find. There are 
 all sorts of bright, strap-on blinkies for the rear. I'd rig up a QR for 
 my 
 Saddlesack Medium and attach it with the Nitto standoff only as needed, 
 and 
 augment it with a courier bag in 1 of 3 sizes. I'd get some clip-on, easy 
 on/off fenders, shorties if need be -- hell, this is New Mexico. 

 Wheels: Actually, I might do as I did decades ago when I tried to make 
 a mountain bike do triple duty with 3 wheelsets: gofast with 23 mm tires 
 and 12-19 (7-sp) cassette, commuting with 35 mm tires with 13-21, and off 
 road with knobbies and 14-28. The Phil fixed/fixed with Elk Pass would 
 keep 
 the 17/19 Dingle and the 28 mm Elk Passes, but I'd have another Elk Pass 
 rear for the TC fixed hub with 17 t cog for 76" direct and 66" underdrive; 
 and then I'd have a third wheeset for Naches Passes with the fixed TF hub 
 with a 19 t cog and the Naches Passes for 70" and 52"; good 
 pavement-to-moderate dirt ratios.

 Of course, I'd have to overcome the scruple of keeping this bike 
 pristine  Funny, I usually take a brief detour for a mile or 
  mile-and-a-half along a very busy 6-lane when I ride North from my house 
 because the 

[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Conway Bennett]

Good thread.  I'm a 2TTer.  I learned about Riv ~2010 through ecovelo which 
has a presence again on Instagram and cyclofiend.  My first Rivendell I 
bought was a 2TT Sam I got new for sub $1000, but I lusted after a 
Hunqapillar first because of the grey bean paint but especially after 
riding one at HQ--back then Hunqs were only $1850.  I currently have a 
Hunqapillar and my wife has a Rosco Bubbaloosa.  I was drinking Riv Kool 
aid for a bit, but now I have a crust canti lightning bolt and a BMC 
Monstercross on deck.  The Appaloosa was the last Riv I really liked, but I 
like 650b and the option of drop bars.
 
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 8:52:34 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 6:55:34 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
> wrote:
>
>> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best? 
>>
>
> I'm not sure how I missed this thread! The Bridgestone XO-1 is where it 
> began for me, and I happily teamed up with Grant to help Rivendell get 
> started and then Rona Components, Willow, and Heron. I've had a Rivendell 
> ATB (Waterford, early on), Riv Road (Joe built), a few Herons, a Quickbeam, 
> a Bleriot, and a Cheviot. And my wife has a Glorius. I definitely associate 
> more with the earlier designs, and the original prototype Heron Road  and 
> Riv Road are still here. I've evolved more along the lines of Jan Heine, 
> preferring classic road bike designs and riding position, with big tires. I 
> never warmed up to the Cheviot though I tried a slew of handlebars. I sold 
> the ATB and the Bleriot here a couple of years ago. The type of riding I do 
> is largely dictated by where I live, with lots of dairyland roads that are 
> mostly well paved. I don't have mountains or many gravel roads within 100 
> miles. There are some mountain bike trails in the vicinity, but I'm not 
> willing to drive an hour each way to go for a bike ride - I'd rather spend 
> those 2 hours riding!
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
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[RBW] Re: Another life for a Quickbeam

[Conway Bennett]

That's my old bike!  Below are photos from its previous life.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/sjbWgCGxFqozdBY37

On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-5 mrb wrote:

> [image: IMG_1707.JPG]
>
> Purchased from a list member and slowly built up!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Faceplate Quill Stems, Crust Shaka Bar, Paul Neo Retros

[Conway Bennett]

Paul Neo Retro brakes are sold.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022, 9:58 AM maxcr  wrote:

> PM sent
>
> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 5:17:02 PM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> The Crust parts are sold, but everything remains despite a good amount of
>> interest, even though some of that interest was spammy.
>>
>>
>> Fair winds,
>>
>> Captain Conway Bennett
>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 3:31 PM Conway Bennett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Surprisingly, the Paul Neo Retro brakes are still available.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 2:59:24 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:
>>>
>>>> Crust bar and stem are sold to a patient list member.
>>>>
>>>> Pictures of the bags I mentioned:
>>>>
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/LyZRec5Bp88iBoJv5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 11:54:48 AM UTC-5 Nikko in Oakland
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> PMed - what's the length of the Crust X Nitto UI-12?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:51:30 AM UTC-7
>>>>> captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bumping this.  Sorry to folks who replied and then got a delayed
>>>>>> direct response -- Google Groups replies are going to spam.  Below are
>>>>>> images of the Crust and Paul stuff.  I also have three bags I'm posting
>>>>>> later today: a Rivendell Brand V bar bag, a royal blue Rivendell 
>>>>>> Sackville
>>>>>> Banana Sack, and a Revelate Designs Mountain Feedbag
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Crust items:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/H6wqoqZ4x4XZXFQCA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul Neo Retro brakes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/RxopQho1TfVWWqxZA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 2:56:32 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm moving to a 31.8 faceplate stem and v brake ecosystem across all
>>>>>>> of my bikes for universal compatibility, so I have the following up for
>>>>>>> grabs:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Crust x Nitto UI 12 Quill Stem with 26.0 clamp $75
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nitto UI 12 Quill Stem with 10 cm extension and 31.8 clamp $70
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebar 26.0 clamp 54 cm wide $115
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One bikes worth of Paul Neo Retro brakes with Moon Units and Short
>>>>>>> Nitto Rear Cable Hanger.  All hardware is accounted for, but these not 
>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>> with brake pads.  I will also include some extra Paul bits I have.  $170
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also have an all but new set of Skinwall Specialized Sawtooth
>>>>>>> 2Bliss tires in 650 x 48 I tried and liked, but I prefer Schwalbe G One
>>>>>>> Speed tires.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prices are net to me, and I would prefer local sales.  For shipping,
>>>>>>> I recommend buying it through pirate ship and then emailing me the 
>>>>>>> label.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Conway
>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Faceplate Quill Stems, Crust Shaka Bar, Paul Neo Retros

[Conway Bennett]

The Crust parts are sold, but everything remains despite a good amount of
interest, even though some of that interest was spammy.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 3:31 PM Conway Bennett 
wrote:

> Surprisingly, the Paul Neo Retro brakes are still available.
>
> On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 2:59:24 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:
>
>> Crust bar and stem are sold to a patient list member.
>>
>> Pictures of the bags I mentioned:
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/LyZRec5Bp88iBoJv5
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 11:54:48 AM UTC-5 Nikko in Oakland
>> wrote:
>>
>>> PMed - what's the length of the Crust X Nitto UI-12?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:51:30 AM UTC-7
>>> captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bumping this.  Sorry to folks who replied and then got a delayed direct
>>>> response -- Google Groups replies are going to spam.  Below are images of
>>>> the Crust and Paul stuff.  I also have three bags I'm posting later today:
>>>> a Rivendell Brand V bar bag, a royal blue Rivendell Sackville Banana Sack,
>>>> and a Revelate Designs Mountain Feedbag
>>>>
>>>> Crust items:
>>>>
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/H6wqoqZ4x4XZXFQCA
>>>>
>>>> Paul Neo Retro brakes:
>>>>
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/RxopQho1TfVWWqxZA
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 2:56:32 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm moving to a 31.8 faceplate stem and v brake ecosystem across all
>>>>> of my bikes for universal compatibility, so I have the following up for
>>>>> grabs:
>>>>>
>>>>> Crust x Nitto UI 12 Quill Stem with 26.0 clamp $75
>>>>>
>>>>> Nitto UI 12 Quill Stem with 10 cm extension and 31.8 clamp $70
>>>>>
>>>>> Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebar 26.0 clamp 54 cm wide $115
>>>>>
>>>>> One bikes worth of Paul Neo Retro brakes with Moon Units and Short
>>>>> Nitto Rear Cable Hanger.  All hardware is accounted for, but these not 
>>>>> come
>>>>> with brake pads.  I will also include some extra Paul bits I have.  $170
>>>>>
>>>>> I also have an all but new set of Skinwall Specialized Sawtooth 2Bliss
>>>>> tires in 650 x 48 I tried and liked, but I prefer Schwalbe G One Speed
>>>>> tires.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prices are net to me, and I would prefer local sales.  For shipping, I
>>>>> recommend buying it through pirate ship and then emailing me the label.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>
>>>>> Conway
>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Brand V Handlebar Bag

[Conway Bennett]

Bumping this.  Despite interest, I still have the Paul Neo Retro brakes and 
the Rivendell Brand V handlebar bag.

On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 3:29:01 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:

> In response to a question I received,
>
> This was intended as a drop bar handlebar bag, and it measures at 9x5.5x7 
> or at least 14 apples with room to spare.  I doubt it will work as a saddle 
> bag because of the zipper location and the width between straps.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/XmkScCWNeC8ejZjEA
> On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 2:18:00 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> I had this bag with me when I visited Riv HQ and the staff was gushing 
>> over it.  I think this was my first Rivendell item ever, and it was my 
>> primary bag for many years starting in 2012 hence the wear.  The strap that 
>> goes around the head tube came off long ago but I still have it as well the 
>> unused map case. I would want $45 net to me plus shipping. 
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/f1uCbJ8iUtpcHfB76
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your consideration,
>>
>> Captain Conway
>>
>> P.S. I still have the Paul Neo Retro brakes available $170 net to me plus 
>> shipping.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nJUK5zQtKjs6cos1A
>>
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[RBW] Re: Ride Your Rivendell: White Pine Trail, Grand Rapids, MI

[Conway Bennett]

Is there a contact list going into tomorrow?  My number is 239.877.4119, 
and I intend to depart Chicagoland ~5 AM tomorrow.  See y'all tomorrow!

On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 2:41:10 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> <>>>
>
> First, a caveat: This ride is not affiliated with Rivendell Bicycle Works; 
> we are a group of Rivendell owners who want to ride our bikes together. 
> Organizers are not liable for bodily injury or damage to your bike. If you 
> are comfortable riding at your own risk, then:
>
> Join us on the famous White Pine Trail near Grand Rapids, Michigan for a 
> ride through Michigan’s fall foliage. The date is quickly approaching; here 
> are the details so you can make plans to attend.
>
> When: October 15th, 10 am
> Where: Dwight Lydell Park in Comstock Park
> What: a 32 mile ride, round trip. Ride to Cedar Springs with lunch in 
> Rockford on our way back.
>
> If you choose to make a weekend of it, there are many National and state 
> campgrounds within an hour of the park. If weather does not cooperate, this 
> ride is rescheduled for Oct 29th. 
>
> This is our 2nd Rivendell Ride of 2022; the first was in Kalamazoo, MI on 
> the KalHaven Trail. I hope to see familiar faces and new in Grand Rapids on 
> Saturday. 
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[RBW] Re: WTB: inexpensive rear rack

[Conway Bennett]

James,

I have a Blackburn Ex-2 Expedition rear rack that is barely used and 
probably hasn't been on a bike in a decade.  Make me an offer shipped from 
Chicagoland.  I will use pirate ship, so it should not be more than $15 to 
ship.

On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 7:19:29 PM UTC-5 James wrote:

> I am looking to acquire an inexpensive rear rack.  One that will hold 
> panniers (as opposed to a saddle bag support rack).  $100 shipped is my max 
> - ideally in the $75 range.  I'm in Western NC.  Send me a PM if you think 
> you may have something you'd like to part with.
>
> Best,
> James
>

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[RBW] Re: Front low rider rack for Sam Hillborne

[Conway Bennett]

Here's how I did it:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/bQ6G2tBKHaWeErrr8

I never really used it, but I don't like racks and prefer large front 
handlebar bags.

On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 4:55:28 PM UTC-5 BobW wrote:

> I'm considering taking my Sam on some bike tours so looking into from 
> lowrider rack for front panniers.  I already have a rear Tubus rack, so 
> would be wanting to utilize the low riders for additional panniers.  
> Looking for suggestions for proven solutions that fit the same well.   BTW, 
> my Sam is a non-canti model - sidepull calipers.
>
> Thanks!!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Fork Paint Options!

[Conway Bennett]

Red.  Red Rivs are rare.

On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 5:29:25 PM UTC-5 Jared Wilson wrote:

> I'd color match the fork to the original paint.
>
> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 3:09:22 PM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My vote is for matching to existing color
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2022, at 6:05 PM, David Person  wrote:
>>
>> Love the red.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 1:37:21 PM UTC-7 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I vote for keeping the 2-tone. Get some panda pedals (
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedals-mks-new-2018?variant=32047969697903)
>>>  
>>> and some Oveja Negra wack pack bags (
>>> https://www.ovejanegrabikepacking.com/collections/wack-pack-color-collection)
>>>  
>>> and just fully embrace the patchwork style.  :) Really glad you were easily 
>>> able to get a new fork for it though.
>>>
>>> Mike 
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 3:04:16 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>>
 My Appaloosa has a new blue fork! I’m now considering the options:


1. Leave the fork as-is so the bike is two-tone
2. Repaint the fork to match the existing frame color
3. Repaint the fork and the bike: either metallic red to match my 
old Schwinn, or a blue-gray gunmetal

 If you’ve replaced a fork, what did you do? 

 I thought you might like to see how those options might look:

 Existing frame and fork:

 [image: bike_mustard_bluefork_small.jpg]

 Fork painted to match frame:

 [image: bike_existing_small.jpg]

 Schwinn red metallic:

 [image: bike_red_black_small.jpg]

 Blue-gray gunmetal:

 [image: bike_bluegray_honey.jpg]

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Faceplate Quill Stems, Crust Shaka Bar, Paul Neo Retros

[Conway Bennett]

Surprisingly, the Paul Neo Retro brakes are still available.

On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 2:59:24 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:

> Crust bar and stem are sold to a patient list member.
>
> Pictures of the bags I mentioned:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/LyZRec5Bp88iBoJv5
>
>
> On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 11:54:48 AM UTC-5 Nikko in Oakland 
> wrote:
>
>> PMed - what's the length of the Crust X Nitto UI-12?
>>
>> On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:51:30 AM UTC-7 
>> captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Bumping this.  Sorry to folks who replied and then got a delayed direct 
>>> response -- Google Groups replies are going to spam.  Below are images of 
>>> the Crust and Paul stuff.  I also have three bags I'm posting later today: 
>>> a Rivendell Brand V bar bag, a royal blue Rivendell Sackville Banana Sack, 
>>> and a Revelate Designs Mountain Feedbag
>>>
>>> Crust items:
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/H6wqoqZ4x4XZXFQCA
>>>
>>> Paul Neo Retro brakes:
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/RxopQho1TfVWWqxZA
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 2:56:32 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm moving to a 31.8 faceplate stem and v brake ecosystem across all of 
>>>> my bikes for universal compatibility, so I have the following up for grabs:
>>>>
>>>> Crust x Nitto UI 12 Quill Stem with 26.0 clamp $75
>>>>
>>>> Nitto UI 12 Quill Stem with 10 cm extension and 31.8 clamp $70
>>>>
>>>> Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebar 26.0 clamp 54 cm wide $115
>>>>
>>>> One bikes worth of Paul Neo Retro brakes with Moon Units and Short 
>>>> Nitto Rear Cable Hanger.  All hardware is accounted for, but these not 
>>>> come 
>>>> with brake pads.  I will also include some extra Paul bits I have.  $170
>>>>
>>>> I also have an all but new set of Skinwall Specialized Sawtooth 2Bliss 
>>>> tires in 650 x 48 I tried and liked, but I prefer Schwalbe G One Speed 
>>>> tires.
>>>>
>>>> Prices are net to me, and I would prefer local sales.  For shipping, I 
>>>> recommend buying it through pirate ship and then emailing me the label.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>> Conway
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Brand V Handlebar Bag

[Conway Bennett]

In response to a question I received,

This was intended as a drop bar handlebar bag, and it measures at 9x5.5x7 
or at least 14 apples with room to spare.  I doubt it will work as a saddle 
bag because of the zipper location and the width between straps.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/XmkScCWNeC8ejZjEA
On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 2:18:00 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:

> All,
>
> I had this bag with me when I visited Riv HQ and the staff was gushing 
> over it.  I think this was my first Rivendell item ever, and it was my 
> primary bag for many years starting in 2012 hence the wear.  The strap that 
> goes around the head tube came off long ago but I still have it as well the 
> unused map case. I would want $45 net to me plus shipping. 
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/f1uCbJ8iUtpcHfB76
>
> Thanks in advance for your consideration,
>
> Captain Conway
>
> P.S. I still have the Paul Neo Retro brakes available $170 net to me plus 
> shipping.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nJUK5zQtKjs6cos1A
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Brand V Handlebar Bag

[Conway Bennett]

Here's a response to a question to got about the bag:

"I think it was intended as a drop bar handlebar bag, and it measures at 
9x5.5x7 or at least 14 apples with room to spare.  
I doubt it will work as a saddle bag because of the zipper location and the 
width between straps."

https://photos.app.goo.gl/XmkScCWNeC8ejZjEA


On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 2:18:00 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:

> All,
>
> I had this bag with me when I visited Riv HQ and the staff was gushing 
> over it.  I think this was my first Rivendell item ever, and it was my 
> primary bag for many years starting in 2012 hence the wear.  The strap that 
> goes around the head tube came off long ago but I still have it as well the 
> unused map case. I would want $45 net to me plus shipping. 
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/f1uCbJ8iUtpcHfB76
>
> Thanks in advance for your consideration,
>
> Captain Conway
>
> P.S. I still have the Paul Neo Retro brakes available $170 net to me plus 
> shipping.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nJUK5zQtKjs6cos1A
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Ride 10/15/22 reminder + pin order

[Conway Bennett]

Looks like I can join y'all.  My flight to Florida for next week just got 
cancelled.  Is this an all ages ride assuming my kids are lashed to the 
bike?

On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 8:16:26 AM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> Kudos to you and your son. 
>
> That's a beautiful design.
>
> I hope you are able to get them made
> and that the ride
>  is an outstanding success and enjoyed by all participants.
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>
> Just a thought...
> If not enough participants want one you might open it up to list and get 
> enough people taking one for minimum order.
>
>
> .
>

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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Brand V Handlebar Bag

[Conway Bennett]

All,

I had this bag with me when I visited Riv HQ and the staff was gushing over 
it.  I think this was my first Rivendell item ever, and it was my primary 
bag for many years starting in 2012 hence the wear.  The strap that goes 
around the head tube came off long ago but I still have it as well the 
unused map case. I would want $45 net to me plus shipping. 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/f1uCbJ8iUtpcHfB76

Thanks in advance for your consideration,

Captain Conway

P.S. I still have the Paul Neo Retro brakes available $170 net to me plus 
shipping.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/nJUK5zQtKjs6cos1A

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Faceplate Quill Stems, Crust Shaka Bar, Paul Neo Retros

[Conway Bennett]

Crust bar and stem are sold to a patient list member.

Pictures of the bags I mentioned:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/LyZRec5Bp88iBoJv5


On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 11:54:48 AM UTC-5 Nikko in Oakland wrote:

> PMed - what's the length of the Crust X Nitto UI-12?
>
> On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 4:51:30 AM UTC-7 
> captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Bumping this.  Sorry to folks who replied and then got a delayed direct 
>> response -- Google Groups replies are going to spam.  Below are images of 
>> the Crust and Paul stuff.  I also have three bags I'm posting later today: 
>> a Rivendell Brand V bar bag, a royal blue Rivendell Sackville Banana Sack, 
>> and a Revelate Designs Mountain Feedbag
>>
>> Crust items:
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/H6wqoqZ4x4XZXFQCA
>>
>> Paul Neo Retro brakes:
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/RxopQho1TfVWWqxZA
>>
>> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 2:56:32 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:
>>
>>> I'm moving to a 31.8 faceplate stem and v brake ecosystem across all of 
>>> my bikes for universal compatibility, so I have the following up for grabs:
>>>
>>> Crust x Nitto UI 12 Quill Stem with 26.0 clamp $75
>>>
>>> Nitto UI 12 Quill Stem with 10 cm extension and 31.8 clamp $70
>>>
>>> Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebar 26.0 clamp 54 cm wide $115
>>>
>>> One bikes worth of Paul Neo Retro brakes with Moon Units and Short Nitto 
>>> Rear Cable Hanger.  All hardware is accounted for, but these not come with 
>>> brake pads.  I will also include some extra Paul bits I have.  $170
>>>
>>> I also have an all but new set of Skinwall Specialized Sawtooth 2Bliss 
>>> tires in 650 x 48 I tried and liked, but I prefer Schwalbe G One Speed 
>>> tires.
>>>
>>> Prices are net to me, and I would prefer local sales.  For shipping, I 
>>> recommend buying it through pirate ship and then emailing me the label.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Conway
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Faceplate Quill Stems, Crust Shaka Bar, Paul Neo Retros

[Conway Bennett]

Bumping this.  Sorry to folks who replied and then got a delayed direct 
response -- Google Groups replies are going to spam.  Below are images of 
the Crust and Paul stuff.  I also have three bags I'm posting later today: 
a Rivendell Brand V bar bag, a royal blue Rivendell Sackville Banana Sack, 
and a Revelate Designs Mountain Feedbag

Crust items:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/H6wqoqZ4x4XZXFQCA

Paul Neo Retro brakes:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/RxopQho1TfVWWqxZA

On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 2:56:32 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:

> I'm moving to a 31.8 faceplate stem and v brake ecosystem across all of my 
> bikes for universal compatibility, so I have the following up for grabs:
>
> Crust x Nitto UI 12 Quill Stem with 26.0 clamp $75
>
> Nitto UI 12 Quill Stem with 10 cm extension and 31.8 clamp $70
>
> Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebar 26.0 clamp 54 cm wide $115
>
> One bikes worth of Paul Neo Retro brakes with Moon Units and Short Nitto 
> Rear Cable Hanger.  All hardware is accounted for, but these not come with 
> brake pads.  I will also include some extra Paul bits I have.  $170
>
> I also have an all but new set of Skinwall Specialized Sawtooth 2Bliss 
> tires in 650 x 48 I tried and liked, but I prefer Schwalbe G One Speed 
> tires.
>
> Prices are net to me, and I would prefer local sales.  For shipping, I 
> recommend buying it through pirate ship and then emailing me the label.
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Conway
>

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[RBW] Re: Green QB and Rock and Roads

[Conway Bennett]

Dave,

I have that bike, and those are my all time favorite tires.  I never mated 
the two, but I have had wider tires than that on my Quickbeam.

On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 3:47:53 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> I assume you've seen this, it's very specific Dave !
>
> https://assets.bigcartel.com/product_images/324526149/700c-x-43mm+Specs.jpg
>
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 2:58:23 PM UTC-4 Dave Grossman wrote:
>
>> Can any green QB owners (I have a 62) confirm that they can fit a Rock n 
>> Road in their frame?  I'm running a 42 Supple Vitesse right now and want to 
>> max out some knobbies.
>
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Faceplate Quill Stems, Crust Shaka Bar, Paul Neo Retros

[Conway Bennett]

I'm moving to a 31.8 faceplate stem and v brake ecosystem across all of my 
bikes for universal compatibility, so I have the following up for grabs:

Crust x Nitto UI 12 Quill Stem with 26.0 clamp $75

Nitto UI 12 Quill Stem with 10 cm extension and 31.8 clamp $70

Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebar 26.0 clamp 54 cm wide $115

One bikes worth of Paul Neo Retro brakes with Moon Units and Short Nitto 
Rear Cable Hanger.  All hardware is accounted for, but these not come with 
brake pads.  I will also include some extra Paul bits I have.  $170

I also have an all but new set of Skinwall Specialized Sawtooth 2Bliss 
tires in 650 x 48 I tried and liked, but I prefer Schwalbe G One Speed 
tires.

Prices are net to me, and I would prefer local sales.  For shipping, I 
recommend buying it through pirate ship and then emailing me the label.


Thanks in advance,

Conway

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Re: [RBW] WTB Nitto Dirt Drop Stem, preferably 26.0 and 100mm

[Conway Bennett]

I have 10 cm one I'd probably sell.  It was on my Sam Hillborne and has 
lots of miles on it, but I am switching to the faceplate ecosystem.  With 
that said, it's going to be a PITA to disassemble.

On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 4:25:16 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> Ben's is always good for some Nitto goods others may not have. Last one, 
> 90mm quill, 100mm ext, 26.0 bar. 
>
>
> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-dirt-drop---mt-10---riser-quill-stem-stem_nitto_mt-10_870/p?skuId=673274
>
> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 5:18:41 PM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> Paul, there is one on ebay ending tomorrow 
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/165650675210
>> Steve
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 4:51 PM Nathan Mattia  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone.  
>>> I'm in the market for a Nitto Dirt Drop Stem to put on my new Miata 
>>> 1000.  
>>> They seem to be pretty rare with the 26.0 clamp.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Conway Bennett]

Alex,

 I'm in Chicagoland, I have an 88 PBH, and I have a 58 cm first generation 
Quickbeam I am passively selling.

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be 
> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is 
> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see 
> what they have for a while.
>
> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first will 
> likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in my 
> size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is calling to 
> me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. That 
> Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very 
> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family is 
> all still in the city
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>
>> Alexander,
>>
>> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this thread. 
>>
>> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through this 
>> exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There is a 
>> common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just one 
>> Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly after 
>> acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a Taiwan built 
>> Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter mode; 
>> it's done everything well for me including brevets. 
>>
>> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your 
>> needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus, 
>> the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding! 
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the 
>>> closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently 
>>> reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it 
>>> got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
>>> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>>>
>>> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>>>
>>> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've 
>>> wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit 
>>> obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its 
>>> own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most 
>>> though!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] WTT: My Paul Comp Neo Retros for your Mini Motos

[Conway Bennett]

I have a well used but well functioning bikes worth of silver Paul Neo 
Retros, but I want to switch to mini v brakes.  If you have bikes worth 
Paul mini motos you would trade, I'd appreciate it.  Otherwise, what mini v 
brakes do folks like--shimano, promax, box?

Thanks in advance!

Fair winds,

Captain Conway
Chicagoland 

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