Re: [RBW] FS: XTR m960 polished silver RD (rapid rise)

[Eliot Balogh]

Pending

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 4:06 PM Eliot B  wrote:

> Asking $90 OBO
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Re: [RBW] FS: Shimano Bar Ends, XTR Rear Derailleur, 600 tricolor brake levers

[Eliot Balogh]

Bar ends, crankset, pedals and FD sold.

Rear D and dyno setup pending

On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 1:43 PM Eliot B  wrote:

> Cleaning out the parts bin. All prices are shipped and include paypal fees.
>
> Dura Ace 9 Speed Bar End Shifters (can also substitute 8 speed levers if
> you prefer) - $60
> Shimano 600 (ultegra) tri- color brake levers (note the trim part does not
> match) $20
> XTR m952 Rear Derailleur - $80
> FSA SLK silver canti brakeset $80
> Dura Ace 7700 130 bcd silver crankset $45
> IRD alpina triple or sub compact front derailleur $50
> Shimano PD-A600 pedals (logos are worn) $50
>
> Might be open to selling a SonDelux/Mavic Open Pro wheel with three lights
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Shimano Bar Ends, XTR Rear Derailleur, 600 tricolor brake levers

[Eliot Balogh]

FD  and shifters are sold. Pedals are pending

On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 4:46 PM Stephen Durfee  wrote:

> Hi Eliot - is the IRD front der a clamp on or braze-on? sd
>
> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 1:43:26 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Cleaning out the parts bin. All prices are shipped and include paypal
>> fees.
>>
>> Dura Ace 9 Speed Bar End Shifters (can also substitute 8 speed levers if
>> you prefer) - $60
>> Shimano 600 (ultegra) tri- color brake levers (note the trim part does
>> not match) $20
>> XTR m952 Rear Derailleur - $80
>> FSA SLK silver canti brakeset $80
>> Dura Ace 7700 130 bcd silver crankset $45
>> IRD alpina triple or sub compact front derailleur $50
>> Shimano PD-A600 pedals (logos are worn) $50
>>
>> Might be open to selling a SonDelux/Mavic Open Pro wheel with three
>> lights and tail light.
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Re: [RBW] FS: Shimano Bar Ends, XTR Rear Derailleur, 600 tricolor brake levers

[Eliot Balogh]

Shifters and FD are sold

On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 1:43 PM Eliot B  wrote:

> Cleaning out the parts bin. All prices are shipped and include paypal fees.
>
> Dura Ace 9 Speed Bar End Shifters (can also substitute 8 speed levers if
> you prefer) - $60
> Shimano 600 (ultegra) tri- color brake levers (note the trim part does not
> match) $20
> XTR m952 Rear Derailleur - $80
> FSA SLK silver canti brakeset $80
> Dura Ace 7700 130 bcd silver crankset $45
> IRD alpina triple or sub compact front derailleur $50
> Shimano PD-A600 pedals (logos are worn) $50
>
> Might be open to selling a SonDelux/Mavic Open Pro wheel with three lights
> and tail light.
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Re: [RBW] B17 alternatives

[Eliot Balogh]

Selle Anatomica

Specialized Bridge Sport or Mimic (not comp)

On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 8:55 PM Brenton Eastman 
wrote:

> I have a B17 on my Sam that I love. 12 years old and showing very little
> wear. It's the last thing I think about on all-day rides.
>
> I bought a pre owned "broken in" C17 for my Roadini build and I think I'll
> pass it along. Just feels like it will never be comfortable.
>
> Anyone here have other saddles they enjoy? Maybe something lighter weight
> and/or more modern looking, while still having all day comfort.
>
> If not I'll just get another B17 and be content!
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Re: [RBW] WTB Shimano A600 pedal

[Eliot Balogh]

I have an extra set or two. Let me confirm condition but probably light to
moderate use.

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 5:56 AM Bernard Duhon 
wrote:

> Ok ,
>
> ES600 pedal is less desirable than the A 600 it replaced.
>
> one on ebay NOS is asking over twice the price of a new one.
>
>
>
> So I’ll ask the gang if they have a nearly new A600 shimano pedals they
> would be willing to part with.
>
>
>
> Baring that how about a es600 at a reasonable price that I could try out .
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Piaw Na
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2024 4:48 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch 
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation
>
>
>
> If you're not going to do serious single track I highly recommend the
> PD-ES600. https://blog.piaw.net/2022/10/review-shimano-pd-es600.html
>
>
>
> My friends were really skeptical that it would make any difference
> compared to the venerable and well respected (deservedly so) M520s, but the
> wings and wider platform definitely make these pedals feel much better
> connected than the M520s, and are the first pedals I've tried that I
> consider a significant improvement over the M520s. My biggest issue with
> them is that you have to mount them with an allen wrench instead of having
> wrench flats. Beware though, they're singled sided (which is what makes the
> connection feel so nice --- the design wouldn't have worked with a
> double-sided pedal, I don't think)! But for paved riding they're really
> awesome.
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 1:13:12 PM UTC-8 Bernard Duhon wrote:
>
> I am in the hunt for a set of dual sided SPD pedals.
>
> I'm going flat on my touring bike but there is too much total overlap on
> one of my bikes to do anything but a clip .
>
> I have been riding the old  Onza elastomer SPD's.
>
>
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> any suggestions?
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Eliot Balogh]

Quickbeam and 26in Atlantis on Portland CL…

On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 11:15 PM Max Faingezicht 
wrote:

> Great deal on a 60 SimpleOne in AZ:
>
> [image: 00c0c_iUm87mppNAd_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
>
> Rivendell - SimplOne frame 60cm - bicycle parts - by owner - bike sale -
> craigslist
> 
> tucson.craigslist.org
> 
>
> 
>
>
> Tempted but too many bikes, too little time.
>
> Hope someone here gets it
>
> Max
>
> On Aug 27, 2023, at 9:21 PM, Matthew Williams <
> matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> CUSTOM
> 60cm
> 2500
> Belmont, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/belmont-rivendell-custom-beautiful-60cm/7658939306.html
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Re: [RBW] Build in progress

[Eliot Balogh]

Off to a great start! Where did you get those barrel adjusters and mounting
bolts ?

On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 7:07 PM Old And In The Weeds <
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> 56cm Atlantis 2 with 26" wheels. Taking my time
> on this one!
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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

[Eliot Balogh]

psi versus the 15 I'd put in the BAs. 20 psi in paper thin
>> supple tires means that they do ride no more smoothly over bumps than 15
>> psi heavy tires, but OTOH, the rolling quality is so far superior to forego
>> comparison.
>>
>> So sure, you can get a smooth ride with thick tires; I did with 622 X 60
>> and 559 X 60 Big Apples at 15 psi. But handling and rolling resistance ...?
>> Sorry.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 11:21 AM Ted W  wrote:
>>
>>> For what it's worth, RE: Shikoros, I was going off what Riv carries on
>>> the site:
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/soma-shikoro-tires?variant=31799845519471
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 1:14 PM Patrick Moore 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ted: I hadn't heard of the Shikoros; thanks. I looked the, up on Soma's
>>>> site and also called up some reviews. Apparently the fattest ones are only
>>>> 42 mm wide, and while the reviews were positive they weren't ecstatic as
>>>> they were for the Supple Vitesse SL. The Shikoro is apparently more of a
>>>> commuter tire with a puncture belt and therefore rather heavy (360 grams
>>>> for the SSV SL, 450 grams for the fatter 60 mm Big One lightweight model).
>>>> I prefer ultra supple and ultralight tires even on my errand bikes and have
>>>> done well on them by riding with care and using good sealant. (I used to
>>>> commute 15 or 16 miles 1-way across town on rough pavement with loads on
>>>> 200 gram Specialized 26 X 1" Turbos and had fewer flats than with 240 gram
>>>> 26 X 1.25 Paselas.)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 10:38 AM Ted W  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Patrick,
>>>>>
>>>>> The SSVSLs remind me of the Soma Shikoros that are currently available
>>>>> up to 700x48. Have you ever ridden these for comparison? They were
>>>>> originally on my list but I'd written them off due to the lack of tread
>>>>> (and in my mind, the associated puncture resistance).
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 12:20 PM Patrick Moore 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eliot: I've considered the Snoqualmies as an alternative to my
>>>>>>  no-longer-made Soma Supple Vitesse SLs (of which I have a small stash).
>>>>>> The Somas are labeled 48 and measure 51.5 mm on my Blunt SS 35 mm OW rims
>>>>>> and 50 seems a sweet spot for this bike.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How wide do your SPs measure in real world mms, and on what width of
>>>>>> rim and at what tire pressure?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Patrick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:46 AM Eliot Balogh 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I LOVE the Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 EL tires. I had some issues with
>>>>>>> leakage but it ended up being a tape issue and now they’re perfect. They
>>>>>>> have unbelievable rolling resistance and ride feel. They’re the best
>>>>>>> balance of speed and suppleness that seem to roll as fast as a skinny 
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> have the suppleness of a fatty. I will cry long and hard if I ever have 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> give up on them (longevity isn’t great and some can be fussy tubeless). 
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> sounds like you want some knobby goodness but if you’re just riding 
>>>>>>> light
>>>>>>> gravel these could do the trick.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For more aggressive tread I bought some Specialized Pathfinder Pro
>>>>>>> 700x42 which seem pretty good so far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:26 AM Ted W  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might
>>>>>>>> want to try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a 
>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>> absorbed with that thought.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black
>>>>>>>> sidewall in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires 
>>>>>>>> on a
>>

Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

[Eliot Balogh]

Most of the RH tires measure wider than advertised but I think the SP
measure narrow. I’m pretty sure they were 42 or 43mm on a fairly wide rim
(ENVE AG25 or Foundation 45) but I will double check when I get home.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:40 AM Tom Wyland  wrote:

> I've just switched out my Specialized Sawtooth 700x44 with Rene Herse
> 700x48 Hatcher Pass tires (standard casing). Both are folding bead tires
> with supple sidewalls.  I enjoy the extra width of the Hatcher Pass but I'm
> not convinced that they are worth twice the price yet (actually I got the
> Specialized tires for like $18/each).  I'll see how they fare on my
> suburban commute in the coming months. I suspect I'll have more flats but
> I'll be sure to report back here.
>
> Tom
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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

[Eliot Balogh]

I LOVE the Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 EL tires. I had some issues with leakage
but it ended up being a tape issue and now they’re perfect. They have
unbelievable rolling resistance and ride feel. They’re the best balance of
speed and suppleness that seem to roll as fast as a skinny but have the
suppleness of a fatty. I will cry long and hard if I ever have to give up
on them (longevity isn’t great and some can be fussy tubeless). It sounds
like you want some knobby goodness but if you’re just riding light gravel
these could do the trick.

For more aggressive tread I bought some Specialized Pathfinder Pro 700x42
which seem pretty good so far.


On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:26 AM Ted W  wrote:

> I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might want to
> try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit absorbed
> with that thought.
>
> At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black sidewall
> in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a 26” build
> and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the larger size,
> with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I find the tires
> sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with the 25mm wide rim
> I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.
>
> I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile and
> something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range to
> start.
>
> I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend who
> runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose and
> absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another build
> and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the “endurance”
> casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t handle the
> typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one of the
> reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.
>
> The ones on my short list are currently the  Manatash Ridge (700x42) and
> Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.
>
> I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have liked. If
> you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like (particularly
> 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).
>
> — Ted
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Re: [RBW] FS: Parts Bin

[Eliot Balogh]

Thumbies have sold

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 4:16 PM Eliot B  wrote:

> Few odds and ends for sale. Offers welcome
>
> Photos: https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzRCki
>
> SMP, MKS pedals and XTR rear D are pending.
> Selle Anatomica X $100
> Shimano Brake Levers $30
> TRP Brake Levers SOLD
> ENE thumb mounts $25
> Avid Tri-Dangle Hangers $20
> PDW 650b Beast fenders (mounted but never ridden) $75
> Shimano Cantilever Brakes $30
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist 54cm Hunqapillar, $2250, Sunnyvale CA

[Eliot Balogh]

Y’all are a bad influence

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 8:51 AM  wrote:

> At this price I’m surprised it’s not sold! If I had the cash I’d already
> have made the time to go see if it fits, no matter the question of size!
>
> On Oct 1, 2023, at 08:28, m f  wrote:
>
> So, looking at a Hunqspec sheet and I don’t see a 51 listed.
>
>
> Dylan- when you discussed geometry, how did you land on “51”?
>
> On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 9:24:20 PM UTC-5 Erik wrote:
>
>> Shoot.  A 54 and I would have driven to Sunnyvale tonight to buy that.
>> This was the bike I wanted before I got my first Riv.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 1:00:11 PM UTC-7 dylantho...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> it's actually a 51...i emailed with the seller
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 3:16:52 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dang…

 On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 2:21 PM John P. in SF  wrote:

> Not mine...
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/d/sunnyvale-rivendell-hunqapillar/7671471793.html
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist 54cm Hunqapillar, $2250, Sunnyvale CA

[Eliot Balogh]

Dang…

On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 2:21 PM John P. in SF  wrote:

> Not mine...
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo Atlantis Update

[Eliot Balogh]

It’s the m960 version which is a polished rapid rise and one of the last
versions of their 9 speed. I have a medium cage that I will be posting
shortly which I would imagine could shift an 11/32.

On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 7:18 AM 'Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> I'll agree with others, that is a very nice looking Atlantis!  Which model
> of XTR derailleur are you using?   I thought most of the earlier XTR
> derailleurs were grey, but that definitely looks shiny.   I have been
> hunting for a silver rear derailleur for a custom build, and new ones are
> pretty hard to come by.  Everything that will shift a broader range now
> only seems to come in black. I just found out yesterday that I am #2 in
> line, and #1 is not returning calls, so finding some key parts just became
> more urgent.  That might work if I can find one!
> Thanks!
> Kurt Henry
> Lancaster, PA
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:13:27 AM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I think it’s a 40/24 setup with a 11/32 cassette. This was my first ride
>> in this configuration and it might be too low for me. I spend a lot of time
>> in the top 1/3 of the gear range. The low gears were nice for the hills
>> though.
>>
>> The housing I’m using I got from Velo Orange. It looks nice. It works.
>> I’m not sure it’s better than Jagwire.
>>
>> I am fighting with the front fender rattling. I suspect I need to put
>> some helicopter tape under the fender stays between the fender and the
>> stays. Driving me nuts. Should have gone for a more expensive stainless
>> fender. These cheaper aluminum ones don’t feel as nice as the Berthouds I
>> had on the Surly.
>>
>> The XTR drivetrain is sweet. It’s my first time running a rapid rise with
>> friction. I like it. I can see why GP is a fan. Looking forward to the
>> Silver Derailleur.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:59 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eliot,
>>>
>>> What a difference of change you made to your bike !  Excellent job. You
>>> are matching the black from the handlebars all the way down to the feet of
>>> the double kickstand. Very nice.
>>>
>>> XTR drive train - very cool
>>>
>>> What is your inner chain ring count ?
>>>
>>> That cable housing you are using... is it any better than the standard
>>> Jagwire housing ?
>>>
>>> Suggest buying some helicopter tape for your drive train chain stay
>>> underneath your protective piece of rubber ?
>>> This is what I bought for my Clem. I am very happy with the product.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/ISC-Racers-Tape-HT2128-Transparent/dp/B000TPC7HU/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2NJT0GPDH55NS=ISC%2BRacers%2BTape%2BHT2128%2BISC%2BRacerstape%2BSurface%2BProtection%2BTape%2B%2F%2BHelicopter%2BTape=1695268525=isc%2Bracers%2Btape%2Bht2128%2Bisc%2Bracerstape%2Bsurface%2Bprotection%2Btape%2B%2F%2Bhelicopter%2Btape%2Caps%2C213=8-1=1
>>>
>>> Looking good on that hill overlooking the water...
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 8:41:31 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Much better. New Album:  https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAVscy
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo Atlantis Update

[Eliot Balogh]

How big is your cassette ? I have a medium I can sell you.

On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 10:12 PM John Rinker  wrote:

> Beautiful! I’ve never seen a silver xtr derailleur, and it’s rapid rise?
> I’m on the hunt for one now!
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Sep 20, 2023, at 21:35, Kim H.  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Eliot,
>
> My hope is that you find the proper gearing that is most comfortable for
> you, yet have some climbing gears.
>
> With my success of the addition of the Avid Micro-adapter and a 20T chain
> ring on the 74bcd along with a 34T ring on the 110bcd and a 11-40T SunRace
> cassette in the back, I am quite pleased.
>
> I had to change out the Shimano M952 rear derailleur with the long elbow
> extension to another M952 rear derailleur here the other day. I was having
> trouble out on the Willapa Hills Trail this past Saturday. It was not
> shifting properly. Now it shifts a lot better.
>
> I had a pair of Bethoud steel fenders on my Surly Long Haul Trucker. They
> were some very stout and sturdy fenders.
>
> I tried the rapid rise derailleur by Shimano a long time ago. After so
> many years of road riding, I did not like it. I am glad to hear that you
> do.
>
> I have in my parts drawer both the XTR front and rear derailleurs. They
> are very nice.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:13:27 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I think it’s a 40/24 setup with a 11/32 cassette. This was my first ride
>> in this configuration and it might be too low for me. I spend a lot of time
>> in the top 1/3 of the gear range. The low gears were nice for the hills
>> though.
>>
>> The housing I’m using I got from Velo Orange. It looks nice. It works.
>> I’m not sure it’s better than Jagwire.
>>
>> I am fighting with the front fender rattling. I suspect I need to put
>> some helicopter tape under the fender stays between the fender and the
>> stays. Driving me nuts. Should have gone for a more expensive stainless
>> fender. These cheaper aluminum ones don’t feel as nice as the Berthouds I
>> had on the Surly.
>>
>> The XTR drivetrain is sweet. It’s my first time running a rapid rise with
>> friction. I like it. I can see why GP is a fan. Looking forward to the
>> Silver Derailleur.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:59 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eliot,
>>>
>>> What a difference of change you made to your bike !  Excellent job. You
>>> are matching the black from the handlebars all the way down to the feet of
>>> the double kickstand. Very nice.
>>>
>>> XTR drive train - very cool
>>>
>>> What is your inner chain ring count ?
>>>
>>> That cable housing you are using... is it any better than the standard
>>> Jagwire housing ?
>>>
>>> Suggest buying some helicopter tape for your drive train chain stay
>>> underneath your protective piece of rubber ?
>>> This is what I bought for my Clem. I am very happy with the product.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/ISC-Racers-Tape-HT2128-Transparent/dp/B000TPC7HU/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2NJT0GPDH55NS=ISC%2BRacers%2BTape%2BHT2128%2BISC%2BRacerstape%2BSurface%2BProtection%2BTape%2B%2F%2BHelicopter%2BTape=1695268525=isc%2Bracers%2Btape%2Bht2128%2Bisc%2Bracerstape%2Bsurface%2Bprotection%2Btape%2B%2F%2Bhelicopter%2Btape%2Caps%2C213=8-1=1
>>>
>>> Looking good on that hill overlooking the water...
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 8:41:31 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Much better. New Album:  https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAVscy
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Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo Atlantis Update

[Eliot Balogh]

I think it’s a 40/24 setup with a 11/32 cassette. This was my first ride in
this configuration and it might be too low for me. I spend a lot of time in
the top 1/3 of the gear range. The low gears were nice for the hills
though.

The housing I’m using I got from Velo Orange. It looks nice. It works. I’m
not sure it’s better than Jagwire.

I am fighting with the front fender rattling. I suspect I need to put some
helicopter tape under the fender stays between the fender and the stays.
Driving me nuts. Should have gone for a more expensive stainless fender.
These cheaper aluminum ones don’t feel as nice as the Berthouds I had on
the Surly.

The XTR drivetrain is sweet. It’s my first time running a rapid rise with
friction. I like it. I can see why GP is a fan. Looking forward to the
Silver Derailleur.

On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:59 PM Kim H.  wrote:

> Hi Eliot,
>
> What a difference of change you made to your bike !  Excellent job. You
> are matching the black from the handlebars all the way down to the feet of
> the double kickstand. Very nice.
>
> XTR drive train - very cool
>
> What is your inner chain ring count ?
>
> That cable housing you are using... is it any better than the standard
> Jagwire housing ?
>
> Suggest buying some helicopter tape for your drive train chain stay
> underneath your protective piece of rubber ?
> This is what I bought for my Clem. I am very happy with the product.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/ISC-Racers-Tape-HT2128-Transparent/dp/B000TPC7HU/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2NJT0GPDH55NS=ISC%2BRacers%2BTape%2BHT2128%2BISC%2BRacerstape%2BSurface%2BProtection%2BTape%2B%2F%2BHelicopter%2BTape=1695268525=isc%2Bracers%2Btape%2Bht2128%2Bisc%2Bracerstape%2Bsurface%2Bprotection%2Btape%2B%2F%2Bhelicopter%2Btape%2Caps%2C213=8-1=1
>
> Looking good on that hill overlooking the water...
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 8:41:31 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Much better. New Album:  https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAVscy
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Eliot Balogh]

Beautiful newer Atlantis.

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-atlantis-59cm/7666754057.html

On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 9:09 AM Calvin Yolo  wrote:

> Sorry, I was rushed while offering this up!
>
> My Homer is from late 2021 in Homer Blue, size 51cm. Not ridden much since
> getting my Roadeo, maybe a few scratches. It's been at my friend's house
> (another Riv rider with a Rosco Plat) stored away while I recovered from
> knee surgery. I'll be picking it up in the next week and thought I would
> throw the offer out there during that time to gauge any interest. I'll be
> going for something like a Clem. Pics to come.
>
> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 12:07:48 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Ah. I am now better informed.
>>
>> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 12:02:27 AM UTC-7 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>
>>> I, too, was curious about this but wanted to find out the size of
>>> Calvin's AHH. So, I did some RBW list searching and found that Calvin
>>> ordered it in Nov 2021 and had it built up by early Jan 2022. There are
>>> some nice pictures in emails that he posted as part of a Homer thread on
>>> Jan 9, 2022.
>>> (BTW, it is a blue 51cm.)
>>> He also has a striking, gray Roadeo that is featured in the Riv employee
>>> bikes gallery.
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/calvins-55cm-roadeo-83cm-pbh
>>> 
>>>
>>> He started working there as a bike packer late last year.
>>> I've worked in bike shops and it is not unusual to buy a new bike or
>>> frame at an employee discount (probably 30%), build it up, then flip it for
>>> basically the cost of another new one. (My problem was becoming attached to
>>> them!)
>>> David Lipsky
>>> Berkeley
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 10:20:01 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> Am I understanding that you're selling your not-yet-delivered Homer
>>> frame for $300 less than you just paid? Maybe I'm reading it wrong.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 5:43:06 PM UTC-7 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone potentially interested in my Homer Hilsen frameset? Thinking I'm
>>> going to switch it up. $1450 and I'll box it up ship it out straight from
>>> Rivendell HQ. Or someone can come by the shop and pick it up.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo Atlantis Update

[Eliot Balogh]

Very nice Kyle. I’m currently on coat #3. Still too rough.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 2:29 PM Kyle Cotchett 
wrote:

> i shellaced the bars on my atlantis this summer. three left it rough, but
> the fourth coat left it real smooth!
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 8:41:29 PM UTC+2 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I'm nearing completion of my Atlantis rebuild and wanted to share it with
>> you all. I'm tempted to shellac the bar tape to match the chainstay
>> protector but i've heard that this can give the tape a rough texture ? (i
>> haven't done this before). I have some metal fenders coming and plan to
>> add  Riv fender flaps (gray and leather if i can ever find them). I wanted
>> to have enough clearance for my fenders but when i raised the straddle high
>> enough I wasn't a fan of the performance with the touring style cantis. I
>> also wanted a front rack for that beautiful Berthoud bag that i got from a
>> group member. So implemented a Suntour Power Hanger and am very pleased
>> with the braking power and aesthetic. I was really nice to get rid of the
>> headset cable stop as well. I've run one of these in the past and the cable
>> entered on the other side so i'm wondering if i got some weird
>> british/motocross style where the front brake is routed from the right. It
>> works well enough but looks better with the other style. Also, shout out to
>> Hunter Nugz for easy brake adjustment and VO for their integrated decaleur
>> (i had difficulty finding one that could handle the relatively short bag
>> height and high handlebar).
>>
>> Enjoy! Totally open to any suggestions or recommendations if you would
>> improve on the build in any way.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAU4a6
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Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo Atlantis Update

[Eliot Balogh]

Yes Bryce, you are right . I realized that after I posted. I don’t think it
would work with the Paul’s anyway since the cable bolt is on the right arm.


On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 5:08 AM Bryce Lackey 
wrote:

> Is it not symmetrical? Can't you just remove the hardware and flip it?
>
> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 2:10:55 AM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I don’t think that the power is better than a perfectly optimized
>> straddle cable. It does seem better than I expected for that amount of
>> clearance though. It could be my imagination but the fork  mounting also
>> feels more solid. Some describe reduced brake chatter. I also like the
>> longer housing run but wish it was the same direction as my old setup.
>> Highly recommend getting one with a left side stop. You can see the cable
>> angle is a little odd for its pull on the Atlantis.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 10:34 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eliot,
>>>
>>> I am really impressed with your Suntour Power Hanger application.  It is
>>> very clean and a shiny silver ! After seeing it, I want one.
>>> Is there a dramatic or a significant improvement in stopping power ?
>>> Is the Power Hanger just for the front forks only ?
>>>
>>> Thank-you,
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 7:31:17 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I’m going to take the plunge and shellac the bars too. I really like
 the color of the chainstay protector.

 Also digging the bronze accents (Thanks Erik) The bronze rims work
 better than I expected.

 On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 2:54 PM John Rinker  wrote:

> That's a beauty Eliot! I just love those Toyo Atlanti. Enjoy the ride!
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 2:49:14 PM UTC-7 jrst...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>>
>> In my experience when just a few coats of shellac are used it can
>> feel rough.  I always do many coats, 7,8 or more until it feels smooth.
>> The longest to dry is the first coat, after that dry time is quicker
>> as you put on more coats. My shellacked bars are very smooth.
>>
>> Good luck, nice looking bike.
>> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 2:41:29 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I'm nearing completion of my Atlantis rebuild and wanted to share it
>>> with you all. I'm tempted to shellac the bar tape to match the chainstay
>>> protector but i've heard that this can give the tape a rough texture ? 
>>> (i
>>> haven't done this before). I have some metal fenders coming and plan to
>>> add  Riv fender flaps (gray and leather if i can ever find them). I 
>>> wanted
>>> to have enough clearance for my fenders but when i raised the straddle 
>>> high
>>> enough I wasn't a fan of the performance with the touring style cantis. 
>>> I
>>> also wanted a front rack for that beautiful Berthoud bag that i got 
>>> from a
>>> group member. So implemented a Suntour Power Hanger and am very pleased
>>> with the braking power and aesthetic. I was really nice to get rid of 
>>> the
>>> headset cable stop as well. I've run one of these in the past and the 
>>> cable
>>> entered on the other side so i'm wondering if i got some weird
>>> british/motocross style where the front brake is routed from the right. 
>>> It
>>> works well enough but looks better with the other style. Also, shout 
>>> out to
>>> Hunter Nugz for easy brake adjustment and VO for their integrated 
>>> decaleur
>>> (i had difficulty finding one that could handle the relatively short bag
>>> height and high handlebar).
>>>
>>> Enjoy! Totally open to any suggestions or recommendations if you
>>> would improve on the build in any way.
>>>
>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAU4a6
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo Atlantis Update

[Eliot Balogh]

I’m going to take the plunge and shellac the bars too. I really like the
color of the chainstay protector.

Also digging the bronze accents (Thanks Erik) The bronze rims work better
than I expected.

On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 2:54 PM John Rinker  wrote:

> That's a beauty Eliot! I just love those Toyo Atlanti. Enjoy the ride!
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 2:49:14 PM UTC-7 jrst...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>>
>> In my experience when just a few coats of shellac are used it can feel
>> rough.  I always do many coats, 7,8 or more until it feels smooth.
>> The longest to dry is the first coat, after that dry time is quicker as
>> you put on more coats. My shellacked bars are very smooth.
>>
>> Good luck, nice looking bike.
>> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 2:41:29 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I'm nearing completion of my Atlantis rebuild and wanted to share it
>>> with you all. I'm tempted to shellac the bar tape to match the chainstay
>>> protector but i've heard that this can give the tape a rough texture ? (i
>>> haven't done this before). I have some metal fenders coming and plan to
>>> add  Riv fender flaps (gray and leather if i can ever find them). I wanted
>>> to have enough clearance for my fenders but when i raised the straddle high
>>> enough I wasn't a fan of the performance with the touring style cantis. I
>>> also wanted a front rack for that beautiful Berthoud bag that i got from a
>>> group member. So implemented a Suntour Power Hanger and am very pleased
>>> with the braking power and aesthetic. I was really nice to get rid of the
>>> headset cable stop as well. I've run one of these in the past and the cable
>>> entered on the other side so i'm wondering if i got some weird
>>> british/motocross style where the front brake is routed from the right. It
>>> works well enough but looks better with the other style. Also, shout out to
>>> Hunter Nugz for easy brake adjustment and VO for their integrated decaleur
>>> (i had difficulty finding one that could handle the relatively short bag
>>> height and high handlebar).
>>>
>>> Enjoy! Totally open to any suggestions or recommendations if you would
>>> improve on the build in any way.
>>>
>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAU4a6
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini Frame

[Eliot Balogh]

How was the shipping?

On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 6:40 PM River Bailey  wrote:

> Found one at Blue Lug! :-)
>
> On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 1:18:19 PM UTC-4 River Bailey wrote:
>
>> Looking for 54 Roadini frame in new Sergio Green.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Babies on bikes

[Eliot Balogh]

A trailer is the safest option. If you go that route I would consider a
Thule or older Chariot (these can be had very inexpensively). They have
weight adjustable suspension and you can use an infant sling. The general
age recommendation is to wait until 12-18 months but we certainly started
closer to 6 months (My wife and I are both nurse practitioners and got the
Ok from his pediatrician). It will very from child to child but once they
are demonstrating strong head and neck control they should be ok in an
infant sling.

I personally prefer a Thule Maxi seat on a rack behind me. It’s just nice
not having to deal with the weight and logistics of a trailer. We only just
started doing that on our Cargo E bike now that he’s 16 months and gets to
ride to daycare.

Eliot

On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 5:54 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Kushan,
>
> Oh, I so know that excitement you feel about introducing your baby to
> biking. It’s wonderful that you want to share it and it will be such a
> bonding experience between the both of you as he grows up.
>
> Is the plan to put him in a bike seat on your bike? Or in a cargo bike? In
> a car seat inside a cargo bike? I think the last option is the only one I
> could safely recommend, and maybe not even that. I am a nurse, and I won’t
> ever forget the part of our pediatrics training that talked about the
> microtears that can be caused even by bouncing a baby too hard. You can
> damage their little eyes, their brains, and their neck muscles, which
> really aren’t meant to support much until after one year of age. Now, if a
> pediatrician happens to be on here and would like to offer advice, I’d love
> to hear it, but from what I can remember in peds training, it wouldn’t be
> safe to take baby on a bike seat until next year.
>
> I’m sorry!
> Leah
>
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 10:58:35 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>
>> Looking for wisdom and advice from the Riv community on riding bikes with
>> babies on them. At what age did you start? What seats, trailers, etc did
>> you use? Where did you ride?
>>
>> My little one just turned 6 months old and I am itching to introduce him
>> to bike rides. He can sit on his own and does pretty well in carriers (both
>> facing in and out). He loves being outside and I would love to do a ride
>> with him on a car-free bike paths or (non-technical) dirt trails. Most
>> online resources recommend biking with babies after 1 year of age but I am
>> not sure if that's based on any actual research.
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Ron's Ortho, Ritchey, Real, XTR, VO, Paul

[Eliot Balogh]

Cockpit has sold as a complete setup. Thank you for your interest. Fenders
still available

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 8:46 AM Kim H.  wrote:

> @Eliot - Thank-you for the information. I appreciate it. Not my size I was
> looking for.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 6:55:53 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Moon units and skewers have sold. XTR cassette is pending
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 6:54 AM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Kim,
>>>
>>> Those are the metal PDW fenders. They are designed for 650b with a max
>>> of 2.2 in tire. I plan to sell them but didn’t want to ship.
>>>
>>> If anyone local wants them I’d let them go for $60 ($140 new). Mounted
>>> but never ridden. I went 700c with my gravel.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 10:35 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>>>
>> @Eliot - What is the story on the black fenders in your photos ?
>>>> Are they for 26" wheelset ?
>>>>
>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 8:57:19 PM UTC-7 thetaper...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 11:42:59 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> PM sent!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 11:18 PM, Eliot B  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm probably going to regret this but I assembled what is in my
>>>>>> opinion, the best possible flat bar setup. Vintage machined aluminum Real
>>>>>> Design brake levers with option for short or long pull cable placement. 
>>>>>> XTR
>>>>>> metal paddle rapid fire shifters (3x9). Uncut, brand new Ron's ortho 
>>>>>> bars.
>>>>>> 130mm Ritchey Force Stem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I decided to go with my Noodle setup on the Atlantis and wont have
>>>>>> another bike for these to go on for quite a while. Hoping to sell this
>>>>>> cockpit as a group. Looking for $500 OBO
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also selling some gold paul moon units for $30, 8 speed XTR cassette
>>>>>> for $50 and VO Grand Crew skewers for $25.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LMK if anyone is interested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzRCki
>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Ron's Ortho, Ritchey, Real, XTR, VO, Paul

[Eliot Balogh]

Moon units and skewers have sold. XTR cassette is pending

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 6:54 AM Eliot Balogh  wrote:

> Hey Kim,
>
> Those are the metal PDW fenders. They are designed for 650b with a max of
> 2.2 in tire. I plan to sell them but didn’t want to ship.
>
> If anyone local wants them I’d let them go for $60 ($140 new). Mounted but
> never ridden. I went 700c with my gravel.
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 10:35 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>
>> @Eliot - What is the story on the black fenders in your photos ?
>> Are they for 26" wheelset ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 8:57:19 PM UTC-7 thetaper...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 11:42:59 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> PM sent!
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 11:18 PM, Eliot B  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm probably going to regret this but I assembled what is in my
>>>> opinion, the best possible flat bar setup. Vintage machined aluminum Real
>>>> Design brake levers with option for short or long pull cable placement. XTR
>>>> metal paddle rapid fire shifters (3x9). Uncut, brand new Ron's ortho bars.
>>>> 130mm Ritchey Force Stem.
>>>>
>>>> I decided to go with my Noodle setup on the Atlantis and wont have
>>>> another bike for these to go on for quite a while. Hoping to sell this
>>>> cockpit as a group. Looking for $500 OBO
>>>>
>>>> Also selling some gold paul moon units for $30, 8 speed XTR cassette
>>>> for $50 and VO Grand Crew skewers for $25.
>>>>
>>>> LMK if anyone is interested.
>>>>
>>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzRCki
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Ron's Ortho, Ritchey, Real, XTR, VO, Paul

[Eliot Balogh]

Hey Kim,

Those are the metal PDW fenders. They are designed for 650b with a max of
2.2 in tire. I plan to sell them but didn’t want to ship.

If anyone local wants them I’d let them go for $60 ($140 new). Mounted but
never ridden. I went 700c with my gravel.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 10:35 PM Kim H.  wrote:

> @Eliot - What is the story on the black fenders in your photos ?
> Are they for 26" wheelset ?
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 8:57:19 PM UTC-7 thetaper...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> +1!
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 11:42:59 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> PM sent!
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 11:18 PM, Eliot B  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey All,
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm probably going to regret this but I assembled what is in my opinion,
>>> the best possible flat bar setup. Vintage machined aluminum Real Design
>>> brake levers with option for short or long pull cable placement. XTR metal
>>> paddle rapid fire shifters (3x9). Uncut, brand new Ron's ortho bars. 130mm
>>> Ritchey Force Stem.
>>>
>>> I decided to go with my Noodle setup on the Atlantis and wont have
>>> another bike for these to go on for quite a while. Hoping to sell this
>>> cockpit as a group. Looking for $500 OBO
>>>
>>> Also selling some gold paul moon units for $30, 8 speed XTR cassette for
>>> $50 and VO Grand Crew skewers for $25.
>>>
>>> LMK if anyone is interested.
>>>
>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzRCki
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brass bits?

[Eliot Balogh]

Thanks gents.

That shipping is murder but happy to support BL and too impatient to wait.



On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 12:26 PM Kim H.  wrote:

> Spacer:
> https://analogcycles.com/products/blue-lug-brass-headset-spacers?variant=40096167166129
>
> Kim.
>
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 12:20:30 PM UTC-7 Igor wrote:
>
>> spacer: https://global.bluelug.com/bl-select-brass-spacer-1inch.html
>> extractor: https://global.bluelug.com/bl-select-brass-crank-cap.html
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 3:19:09 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Is this what you are looking for in the way of brass crank caps ?
>>> https://velo-orange.com/products/brass-crank-caps
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 11:34:57 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Anyone know where i can find a 5mm brass 1in headset spacer in stock?
 also looking for the brass crank extractor caps.

 Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Rear derailleur for Deore XT M8000 11-speed 11-42 w silver2 shifters

[Eliot Balogh]

I would ask Russ over at Pathless Pedaled

On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 7:32 AM Stephanie A.  wrote:

> Hi everyone! I'm here, once again, to humbly seek out your advice. I've
> combed through the (many, many) results here on 1x11 drivetrains and still
> have two questions. I am using a silver2 shifter.
>
> 1. Has anyone been able to get a Shimano Altus/M310 to shift 11 speeds to
> a rear cog with 42t? I can get it to 37t but no farther.
>
> 2. If you have successfully used silver2 shifters with an 11-speed
> cassette and ≥42t cog, what derailleur did you use? Am I best off with the
> Shimano M8000? REI currently has a sale on Shimano Alivio M3100-SGS 9,
> Shimano Deore M5120-SGS 10/11, M4120-SGS 10/11.
>
> Signed,
> Stephanie, who chose parts to help her spouse turn the bike he has into a
> bike that he loves knowing that the OEM Altus likely wouldn't get to all 11
> cogs on the new cassette (which, even with only 10 usable cogs gives him
> more options where he needed them than his previous setup)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

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There’s never enough tire nerding.

I’m going to check out the Spec Pathfinder Pro that people are so fond of.

I ended up retaping my wheels since I had a very slow leak with the
Snoqualmie Pass rear. It seemed to hold for a few hours and then dipped to
the 20s like usual. It’s not the worst thing but I hate losing that much
tire pressure over the course of a ride.

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 6:34 AM Adam  wrote:

> Thanks for all the thoughts. I'm definitely curious how things would be
> different tubeless, but am on Dyads, so not happening soon--unless someone
> has a tubeless wheelset they want to trade for Dyads . . .
>
> The update here is that I did get the Terra Speeds in 40mm. FWIW, a better
> comparison would be the Steilacooms (38 RH knobbies right?).
>
> They are fast on the road--no exact measurements, but they didn't feel
> horribly slow coming from Snoqualmie ELs. They have a much lighter steering
> feel--more like the RH 38mm as opposed to the 44mm--I like that change. I
> adjusted to the road feel of the Snoqualmies, but it always felt clunky,
> like it took extra effort for turns, hard to make quick adjustments.
>
> Off road, the traction is decent, got me through a few muddy underpasses
> that the herse tires can't handle. They feel tougher than the RH tires in
> my hand, but IDK what that really means. The biggest negative is volume.
> They are MUCH smaller than the snoqualmie passes, and it really shows up in
> gravel washes, sand, etc, where the Terra Speeds CUT and twist into things
> that the Herse tires float right over. (not a fair comparison, the 38mm RH
> tires have this same issue, maybe slightly less so)
>
> Overall, I'm not sure. My favorite combo is still Hurricane Ridge EL
> front, Snoqualmie Pass EL rear, but the tight fit in front under my fenders
> is sketchy, and can't seem to avoid cuts, sidewall gashes, etc.
>
> I'm curious if anyone's tried the Terra Speed 45mm? That might be
> interesting. Right now, the 40mm, must be around 36-38mm, but maybe they'll
> stretch out closer to 40.
>
> enough tire nerding
>
> Adam
> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 3:19:12 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 12:13:56 PM UTC-7 psc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I've been riding Snoqualnie Pass standard casings tubeless on my Homer
>> with nary a flat until recently, and after the 3rd flat this summer I have
>> retired them. They had a good life but now seem too worn to keep going
>> reliably.  The rear eventually stretches a couple mm's in width over time
>> which last year prompted a front/rear flip, but now both are stretched
>> which might just be the tell tale sign they are done.
>>
>>
>> The tell-tale sign for me that tires are done is that you've worn through
>> the rubber and are now into the cords (see attached picture). Stretching is
>> no reason to retire a tire --- if that's the sign for wear then after a
>> couple of days my tires are worn since they always stretch! If you're
>> retiring tires just because of 1-2mm of stretch (bulges are another story
>> --- those are indicative of a failure about to happen) then you're
>> prematurely retiring tires.  Now, certain tires (notably Continental tires)
>> have sidewalls so weak that you're more likely to retire them from sidewall
>> failure than from tread wear. I haven't run any panaracers long enough to
>> know whether that's the case for them.
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Re: [RBW] 26” MTB Tire Advice

[Eliot Balogh]

Where are you located?

On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 8:59 AM Bones  wrote:

> I recently pulled my wife’s old Cannondale F5 hardtail out of hibernation
> with the intention of moving it along, but she now has a renewed interest
> in it. It cleaned up nicely, but the tires are falling apart. It looks like
> it can comfortably fit a 26x2.25, but I haven’t used a 26” tire since the
> early 90’s so I don’t know where to start. If anyone can point me to to a
> decent all around trail tire that doesn’t break the bank, I’d greatly
> appreciate it.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chainring woes

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Oh boy. I swear I wouldn’t have done that. I’ll let myself out. I
understand if you guys want to revoke my membership :p

I would die of embarrassment if I wasn’t so happy to have an easy fix.

On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 6:53 PM Johnny Alien 
wrote:

> Are they tight like that? is the chainring backwards? Usually there is one
> side that has recessed holes for the bolts.
>
> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 9:48:06 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> I picked up a Silver Crankset and got new bolts from Riv. I’m getting a
>> lot of chain rub in the bottom half of my cassette and the crank bolts seem
>> to stick out a ways. Has anyone else encountered this ? Are their
>> chainrings that are counter sunk a bit more ? Do I just need to get a wider
>> BB?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Eliot Balogh]

The vegan hypoallergenic farm raised stuff with crushed organic walnut
shells and unicorn tears…

Panaracer

On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 9:46 AM Josh (BertoBerg) 
wrote:

> Eliot-
>
> Out of curiosity, what sealant are you using?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Eliot Balogh]

They set up just fine but the rear will lose 10 psi over a few hours.

Going to retape and see what happens.


On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 9:43 AM Josh (BertoBerg) 
wrote:

> Piaw-
>
> That's exactly where I got my Terra Speeds! $98/shipped. Obviously, RH is
> a MUCH smaller company than Continental so I understand why their prices
> are higher and why you can't find their products deeply discounted.
>
> Ted Wood-
>
> I've only punctured an RH while road riding, commuting, etc. I've gone
> over plenty of super-chunk gravel at high speeds without an issue though.
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Nexave Rapid Rise

[Eliot Balogh]

Keep this to yourself as I don’t want any more competition but the XTR m960
rapid rise derailleur is beautiful if you can find one in good shape.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 7:10 PM Johnny Alien 
wrote:

> I know that Rivendell sold some of these awhile ago but now they only go
> on full builds from them. I am getting a frame but that doesn't count. I
> don't even want it for that frame, I want it for another bike. Anyway it
> stands for Next Avenue and I am looking for one. I am sure one of you has
> one that would maybe like to have money instead. Maybe?
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Re: [RBW] Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Eliot Balogh]

I’m curious to hear what others say. Nothing will be AS plush but you
should be able to find a trade off for slightly more grip in exchange for
slightly worse road feel.

I always liked the Vittoria Terreno Dry in 650b but I don’t know how they
translate to 700c.

I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.

Other tires I considered were the Specialized Pathfinder Pro and Schwalbe
G-One RS.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 6:42 PM Adam  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Too many holes in the tread of my snoqualmie pass ELs, time to move them
> on.
>
> Asking the timeless question: which tires should I buy for the Hillborne?
>
> I see endless variations of "gravel" tires in this size range. Anyone find
> anything that compares well to the Rene Herse stuff? I found gravel kings
> noticeably slower and less plush. I'm thinking about trying the Terra
> Speeds that are on sale a few places.
>
> Other ideas? I'm inclined towards slightly knobby, but have been doing OK
> with the file tread.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: VO Grand Cru Mid-Reach Brakes.

[Eliot Balogh]

The VO grand cru brakes are amazing with salmon pads. Such incredible
modulation and braking power. Also beautiful

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 4:25 PM Collin A  wrote:

> Thanks Garth!
>
> I'll wait and see if some folks are looking to offload a set of the brakes
> before I pull the trigger. I've got a coupon for VO, but then it throws $19
> for shipping afterwards so this website is actually cheaper!
>
> Cheers,
> Collin
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 4:05:38 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>> I ordered the same frame Collin and ordered the VO brakes from
>> Northwestbicycle. I used a promo code "bikesrock" for 15% off, for $148.75
>> total. They have black and silver.
>> https://northwestbicycle.com/products/velo-orange-grand-cru-long-reach-front-and-rear-brakeset-black-br7705
>>
>> I know VO sometimes has sitewide sales and all, but I wasn't going to
>> wait around myself.
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:32:18 PM UTC-4 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Heyo,
>>>
>>> I ended up ordering the upcoming VO rando to satisfy a roadie itch and
>>> now slowly gathering the associated parts for it. I contemplated the recent
>>> run of the Roadinis, but the seatpost diam and longer brake reach wasn't to
>>> my liking for the kind of build I was envisioning.
>>>
>>> Anyone holding a pair? Or equivalent options from shimano (BR-650) or
>>> TRP (RG957)? Black would be nice...
>>>
>>> Also, if anyone has a decent 100/130 rim brake wheelset that is
>>> gathering dust, let me know!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin, commuting on his Appaloosa on Amtrak, in Berkeley
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ron’s Ortho Bars but no bike conundrum? Buy mine!

[Eliot Balogh]

Take the front wheel off and turn the bars sideways ?

On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 2:33 PM Mike Packard  wrote:

> I put some on my Atlantis and now it won't fit in the bike locker at work
> :D
>
> Mike in Austin
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 1:57:18 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Dang, that's a lovely bike Liz! Hopefully someone snatches it up for that
>> price!
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 2:06 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> I've got mine on a Nitto 120 and oh, they flex.
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 1:53:45 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 Just reading the words 130mm and ron's orthos makes me feel the flex.

 On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 1:27:59 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> Wow! I got a lot more DM's than anticipated. Sale is currently pending
> at this point.
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 9:52:48 AM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> Ive got a pretty minty silver 130mm ritchey force road stem 26.0
>> clamp in my parts bin for sale for when you realize you need a lng 
>> low
>> steel stem to run these bars. *sunglasses emoji*
>>
>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:53:08 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> For anyone who bought Ron’s bars only to find they don’t have a bike
>>> to put them on, allow me to shamelessly cross post my lovely 1993 MB-4 
>>> (for
>>> sale on iBOB and local CL), which I’m happy to sell without cockpit…
>>> Ron’s bars would suit this bike exceptionally well!
>>> Feel free to e-mail if I actually caught anyone’s interest;)
>>> Liz in Sacramento
>>> [image: 00707_eKrnb9sdxrf_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
>>>
>>> Bridgestone MB-4 Classic 26” ATB - bicycles - by owner - bike sale
>>> 
>>> sacramento.craigslist.org
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Ron’s Ortho Bars are back in stock

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Yeah that’ll happen.

I also bought some and didn’t intend to put them on my Atlantis.

So how I have the rons, some Real designs brake levers and the super nice
XTR m960 shifters (if you like flat bar shifters you should check these
out) and no bike.

On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 6:36 AM Davey Two Shoes 
wrote:

> Lol I bought them without even having a bike I can put them on. Time to
> sell something a base a build around handlebars I guess.
>
> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 2:13:20 PM UTC-4 in...@brentknepper.com
> wrote:
>
>> thanks Eliot, you managed to post this 16 min before I got the restock
>> email from crust! impressive :)
>>
>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 12:32:01 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> You are welcome.
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Re: [RBW] Atlantis touch up Testors Paint available

[Eliot Balogh]

eBay has 1 left

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126048694312?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=gxTiJL1hSVO=4429486=pELjEbQVQ2m=_ver=artemis=COPY


On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 8:28 AM  wrote:

> Gosh DARN that was quick. There were three when I posted and I bought mine
> last night.
> Hopefully if someone nabbed them all they’ll share here.
>
> On Jun 30, 2023, at 08:16, Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>
> 
> Out of stock :(
>
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 8:04 AM  wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Awhile back there was some chatter about this discontinued color of
>> Testors paint, 2135.
>> I just bought a bottle from this eBay seller. Seems they have a couple
>> more. No affiliation to seller nor can I speak to the condition or quality.
>>
>> Liz in Sacramento
>>
>> 
>> Model Master 1/2oz Enamel Paint-Various Colors Rare+Common |
>> NOS/Sealed/NIOB | eBay
>> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/266317018284?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=EdarltkiSNK=4429486=bkqp74DWSEm=566141822124_ver=artemis=COPY>
>> ebay.com
>> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/266317018284?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=EdarltkiSNK=4429486=bkqp74DWSEm=566141822124_ver=artemis=COPY>
>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: 1in decaleur

[Eliot Balogh]

Found. Thanks all

On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 11:36 AM Eliot B  wrote:

> Anyone have one sitting in their parts bin ?
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Re: [RBW] EVERYTHING! Lots of parts and tools

[Eliot Balogh]

Yes, I did. He’s probably working his way down a very large list.

On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 7:50 PM Richard Rose  wrote:

> Wait, did anyone get a reply to their private messages?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 29, 2023, at 10:32 PM, Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Seriously. Amazing. Needs a post of the year award and recognition for his
> time and generosity.
>
> Maybe the beneficiaries can post their updated projects ?
>
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 7:09 PM Michael Baquerizo 
> wrote:
>
>> this was a crazy service to every project bike in every garage. thank you
>>
>> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 6:57:06 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> OMG PM TIA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 29, 2023, at 11:13 AM, Drw  wrote:
>>>
>>> Also pm'd. I'm probably too late, but this was fun.
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 4:14:22 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> RIP your inbox. Pm sent. Like a fat kid at a candy shop.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 2:24 PM Danny  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> PM sent as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Danny
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 4:23 PM Nick A.  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> PM'D!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 5:03:24 PM UTC-4 bryan...@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent an email on a few things!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 3:53:26 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PM sent on Silver shifters.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2023, at 2:28 PM, twowheeledtexan 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm moving and clearing out a bunch of stuff I've been hoarding.
>>>>>>>> Prices are shipped, PP or Venmo, you pay the fees or friends and 
>>>>>>>> family.
>>>>>>>> Discounts for multiple things, the more you buy the better so I don't 
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> to ship multiple little things. If you don't like the price just make a
>>>>>>>> reasonable offer. The pics should go along with the list hopefully. 
>>>>>>>> I'm in
>>>>>>>> NW Indiana an hour from Chicago if you really wanted to come pick 
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>> up. I'll also be listing a few bikes soon. Please just message or 
>>>>>>>> email me
>>>>>>>> instead of crowding the forum with responses.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1--2QXscjKipzaGsGAcK8fKL8KamllTMS?usp=drive_link
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bike parts listed in general from top left of picture down to
>>>>>>>> bottom right. Everything is used and in good condition unless otherwise
>>>>>>>> mentioned or New In Box.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Threaded stems:*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nitto forged Tallux I believe 25.4x110 150mm min insertion $60
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nitto Technomic 26x100 150mm min insert $40
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Technomic 26x70x 150mm $40
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Technomic 26x50x 150 $40
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Discord Fingerling 70mm and 50mm x 31.8 $120
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Discord Wright 30mmx31.8 $120
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Velo Orange 80x31.8x 150mm $30
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Threadless stems:*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Velo Orange 25.4x100 $25
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> VO 25.4x90 $25
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> VO 25.4x80 $25
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Soma 25.4x100 $20
>>>&g

Re: [RBW] EVERYTHING! Lots of parts and tools

[Eliot Balogh]

Seriously. Amazing. Needs a post of the year award and recognition for his
time and generosity.

Maybe the beneficiaries can post their updated projects ?

On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 7:09 PM Michael Baquerizo 
wrote:

> this was a crazy service to every project bike in every garage. thank you
>
> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 6:57:06 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> OMG PM TIA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2023, at 11:13 AM, Drw  wrote:
>>
>> Also pm'd. I'm probably too late, but this was fun.
>>
>> On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 4:14:22 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> RIP your inbox. Pm sent. Like a fat kid at a candy shop.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 2:24 PM Danny  wrote:
>>>
 PM sent as well.

 -Danny

 On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 4:23 PM Nick A.  wrote:

> PM'D!
>
> On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 5:03:24 PM UTC-4 bryan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Sent an email on a few things!
>>
>> On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 3:53:26 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> PM sent on Silver shifters.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2023, at 2:28 PM, twowheeledtexan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm moving and clearing out a bunch of stuff I've been hoarding.
>>> Prices are shipped, PP or Venmo, you pay the fees or friends and family.
>>> Discounts for multiple things, the more you buy the better so I don't 
>>> have
>>> to ship multiple little things. If you don't like the price just make a
>>> reasonable offer. The pics should go along with the list hopefully. I'm 
>>> in
>>> NW Indiana an hour from Chicago if you really wanted to come pick 
>>> something
>>> up. I'll also be listing a few bikes soon. Please just message or email 
>>> me
>>> instead of crowding the forum with responses.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1--2QXscjKipzaGsGAcK8fKL8KamllTMS?usp=drive_link
>>>
>>> Bike parts listed in general from top left of picture down to bottom
>>> right. Everything is used and in good condition unless otherwise 
>>> mentioned
>>> or New In Box.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Threaded stems:*
>>>
>>> Nitto forged Tallux I believe 25.4x110 150mm min insertion $60
>>>
>>> Nitto Technomic 26x100 150mm min insert $40
>>>
>>> Technomic 26x70x 150mm $40
>>>
>>> Technomic 26x50x 150 $40
>>>
>>> Discord Fingerling 70mm and 50mm x 31.8 $120
>>>
>>> Discord Wright 30mmx31.8 $120
>>>
>>> Velo Orange 80x31.8x 150mm $30
>>>
>>>
>>> *Threadless stems:*
>>>
>>> Velo Orange 25.4x100 $25
>>>
>>> VO 25.4x90 $25
>>>
>>> VO 25.4x80 $25
>>>
>>> Soma 25.4x100 $20
>>>
>>> Soma 26x100 $20
>>>
>>> IRD 26x80 $25
>>>
>>> Silver unmarked 26x100 $5 or free with any other purchase
>>>
>>> Nitto UI85EX 26x60 $80
>>>
>>> Dimension 31.8x100 $5 or free with any other purchase
>>>
>>> FSA 31.8x90 $10
>>>
>>>
>>> *Brake levers:*
>>>
>>> Shimano BL-R550 2 sets black and 3 sets silver $30 a set
>>>
>>> Sunrace no markings on them but I believe they’re the V brake model
>>> that Riv used to sell $30
>>>
>>> Shimano BL-R780 black V brake NIB $30
>>>
>>> Dia Compe short pull $10
>>>
>>> TRP RRL Black $60
>>>
>>> TRP RRL Gum $80
>>>
>>> Gevenalle GX 10 spd Shimano mtn short/long pull compatible $120
>>>
>>> Gevenalle/Retroshift 9spd Shimano short pull $110
>>>
>>> Cane Creek v brake $20
>>>
>>>
>>> *Brakes:*
>>>
>>> Paul Comp Motolites 3 sets $180 a pair. One set does not have a
>>> barrel adjuster on the noodle, I’ll take $150 for that set.
>>>
>>> Avid, vintage I think? $80
>>>
>>> Paul Racer $180
>>>
>>> Avid shorty ultimates $50
>>>
>>> Paul touring canti $140
>>>
>>> Avid BB7 road 2 sets $20 each
>>>
>>> Tektro R539 med reach $50
>>>
>>> Tektro R559 long reach $50
>>>
>>>
>>> *Brake pads:* All sets $5 each or free with another purchase
>>>
>>> Hayes MX-5
>>>
>>> Sram Elixir
>>>
>>> Shimano JO2A
>>>
>>> Avid BB7
>>>
>>> Shimano inserts
>>>
>>> Kool Stop pads from Riv
>>>
>>>
>>> *Shifters:*
>>>
>>> Silver Thumbies and mounts $100 NIB
>>>
>>> Silver downtube $40
>>>
>>> Shimano 9 spd $20
>>>
>>> Ene Ciclo/Dia Compe 11spd downtube set $60
>>>
>>> Paul thumbies mounts 2 sets 22.2 $60 set
>>>
>>> Suntour  vintage thumbies $20
>>>
>>> Shimano bar end pods 2 sets, one set without washers but I’ll give
>>> you the dt washers shown next to them and you can file off the tabs if 
>>> you
>>> want. $20
>>>
>>> Microshift 9spd on mounts $30
>>>
>>> Shimano SL-M780 3x10, 2 sets, one has indicators $40
>>>
>>> Free 

Re: [RBW] FS: EVERYTHING! Lots of parts and tools

[Eliot Balogh]

RIP your inbox. Pm sent. Like a fat kid at a candy shop.

On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 2:24 PM Danny  wrote:

> PM sent as well.
>
> -Danny
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 4:23 PM Nick A. 
> wrote:
>
>> PM'D!
>>
>> On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 5:03:24 PM UTC-4 bryan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Sent an email on a few things!
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 3:53:26 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 PM sent on Silver shifters.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 28, 2023, at 2:28 PM, twowheeledtexan  wrote:

 I'm moving and clearing out a bunch of stuff I've been hoarding.
 Prices are shipped, PP or Venmo, you pay the fees or friends and family.
 Discounts for multiple things, the more you buy the better so I don't have
 to ship multiple little things. If you don't like the price just make a
 reasonable offer. The pics should go along with the list hopefully. I'm in
 NW Indiana an hour from Chicago if you really wanted to come pick something
 up. I'll also be listing a few bikes soon. Please just message or email me
 instead of crowding the forum with responses.



 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1--2QXscjKipzaGsGAcK8fKL8KamllTMS?usp=drive_link

 Bike parts listed in general from top left of picture down to bottom
 right. Everything is used and in good condition unless otherwise mentioned
 or New In Box.



 *Threaded stems:*

 Nitto forged Tallux I believe 25.4x110 150mm min insertion $60

 Nitto Technomic 26x100 150mm min insert $40

 Technomic 26x70x 150mm $40

 Technomic 26x50x 150 $40

 Discord Fingerling 70mm and 50mm x 31.8 $120

 Discord Wright 30mmx31.8 $120

 Velo Orange 80x31.8x 150mm $30



 *Threadless stems:*

 Velo Orange 25.4x100 $25

 VO 25.4x90 $25

 VO 25.4x80 $25

 Soma 25.4x100 $20

 Soma 26x100 $20

 IRD 26x80 $25

 Silver unmarked 26x100 $5 or free with any other purchase

 Nitto UI85EX 26x60 $80

 Dimension 31.8x100 $5 or free with any other purchase

 FSA 31.8x90 $10



 *Brake levers:*

 Shimano BL-R550 2 sets black and 3 sets silver $30 a set

 Sunrace no markings on them but I believe they’re the V brake model
 that Riv used to sell $30

 Shimano BL-R780 black V brake NIB $30

 Dia Compe short pull $10

 TRP RRL Black $60

 TRP RRL Gum $80

 Gevenalle GX 10 spd Shimano mtn short/long pull compatible $120

 Gevenalle/Retroshift 9spd Shimano short pull $110

 Cane Creek v brake $20



 *Brakes:*

 Paul Comp Motolites 3 sets $180 a pair. One set does not have a barrel
 adjuster on the noodle, I’ll take $150 for that set.

 Avid, vintage I think? $80

 Paul Racer $180

 Avid shorty ultimates $50

 Paul touring canti $140

 Avid BB7 road 2 sets $20 each

 Tektro R539 med reach $50

 Tektro R559 long reach $50



 *Brake pads:* All sets $5 each or free with another purchase

 Hayes MX-5

 Sram Elixir

 Shimano JO2A

 Avid BB7

 Shimano inserts

 Kool Stop pads from Riv



 *Shifters:*

 Silver Thumbies and mounts $100 NIB

 Silver downtube $40

 Shimano 9 spd $20

 Ene Ciclo/Dia Compe 11spd downtube set $60

 Paul thumbies mounts 2 sets 22.2 $60 set

 Suntour  vintage thumbies $20

 Shimano bar end pods 2 sets, one set without washers but I’ll give you
 the dt washers shown next to them and you can file off the tabs if you
 want. $20

 Microshift 9spd on mounts $30

 Shimano SL-M780 3x10, 2 sets, one has indicators $40

 Free with any purchase DT boss covers and DT barrel adjusters



 *Derailleurs:*

 Deore RD-M591 9 spd silver $30

 Deore RD-M591 9 spd black $30

 Deore RD-T610 10spd $30

 XT RD-M786 10 spd w/clutch $40

 XT RD-M772 10 spd $40

 Microshift Advent X w/clutch $50

 Deore FD-T610 $20

 CX-70 Direct mount on clamp $20

 CX-70 Clamp $20

 Claris FD-2400 clamp $20

 IRD Alpina-F triple, direct mount on clamp $30



 *Handlebars:*

 VO crazy bars $80

 VO Klunker $50

 Bosco heat treated aluminum 2 sets 1 new 25.4x58 $100, $80 used

 Losco HTA 25.4x54 $80

 Billie bar HTA 2 sets 25.4x58 $80

 Albatross steel 2 sets 25.4x 55 $60



 Crust towel rack 660x26 $100

 Crust towel rack 600x26 $100

 Nitto M-137 dirt drop 31.8x52 $80

 Soma portola 26x56 $30

 Nitto noodles M177 46x26 $40

 Spank flare 52x31.8 $100

 Jones bars 2 sets $50

 Vintage 

Re: [RBW] WTB: Toyo Built Atlantis

[Eliot Balogh]

I would reach out to Dylan to see if he’s going to pass, i gave the owner
his info.

On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 6:20 AM Dick Combs  wrote:

> Is the lead on this one still possible? Don’t want to interfere Dylan
>
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 3:12:48 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I might have a lead on a 56 for you.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 10:28 AM dylan green 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Still looking for a mid 2000's Toyo Built Atlantis. 700c.
>>> I previously had a 58 with drops and it felt long, so I'd
>>> consider a 56 too.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Toyo Built Atlantis

[Eliot Balogh]

I might have a lead on a 56 for you.

On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 10:28 AM dylan green 
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> Still looking for a mid 2000's Toyo Built Atlantis. 700c.
> I previously had a 58 with drops and it felt long, so I'd
> consider a 56 too.
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Re: [RBW] Anyone Tried RH Snoqualmie Pass on a Sam?

[Eliot Balogh]

Can’t speak to your tire clearance but I just put these tires on my gravel
bike (measured 43.75 for the extra light on 25mm ID rims) and they’re
fricken amazing. Feel fast on the road and capable of up to medium gravel.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 6:17 PM Tim Bantham  wrote:

> Thinking about new tires for my Sam. Has anyone fit the 700x44 Rene Herse
> Snoqualmie pass? My Sam is circa 2014 and has Paul Racers. Easily clears a
> 38 so I am thinking about going ever larger to the 44. Anyone out there who
> has tried this tire on their  non-canti Sam?
>
>
> Tim
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[RBW] Re: Brooks B17 Special Titanium

[Eliot Balogh]

SOLD

On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 8:03 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:

> Took it out of the box, gave it proofide treatment and went on a few 10 mi
> rides. Never seen rain.
>
> Asking $220 obo
>
> Pics: https://imgur.com/a/UvtR9gA
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[RBW] FS: Brooks B17 Special Titanium

[Eliot Balogh]

Took it out of the box, gave it proofide treatment and went on a few 10 mi
rides. Never seen rain.

Asking $220 obo

Pics: https://imgur.com/a/UvtR9gA

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Re: [RBW] Atlantis touch up Testors Paint available

[Eliot Balogh]

Out of stock :(

On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 8:04 AM  wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Awhile back there was some chatter about this discontinued color of
> Testors paint, 2135.
> I just bought a bottle from this eBay seller. Seems they have a couple
> more. No affiliation to seller nor can I speak to the condition or quality.
>
> Liz in Sacramento
>
> [image: s-l500.jpg]
>
> Model Master 1/2oz Enamel Paint-Various Colors Rare+Common |
> NOS/Sealed/NIOB | eBay
> 
> ebay.com
> 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Handlebar Suggestions

[Eliot Balogh]

When I made my switch I used my current setup as a starting point. I
measured from my saddle to the hood position and then swapped the bars and
measured to the grips. The bars ended up coming back something like 3-4cm
so I added that length to the stem I had on there. YMMV

You can also use whatbars.com to compare the reach of your noodles to many
popular alt bars. Shows you the relative change of reach.

Eliot

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 2:33 PM Drew Henson  wrote:

> I had some choco bars on my sam which I loved. I recently swapped bars
> between a crust romanceur and the sam, with rene hearse rando bars going on
> the sam and chaco going on the crust, but I'm already planning to put
> upright bars back on the sam. Thinking I'm going to try to the Ahearne+Map
> bars.
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:20:32 AM UTC-8 charlie...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I swapped some 46mm Noodles for a Bull Bar a few days ago and am very
>> happy with the results. Not super aero, but the bike feels more capable and
>> is way more fun to ride now. Wish I had done this sooner!
>>
>> [image: IMG-0318-min.jpg]
>>
>> Charlie in Maine
>>
>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 4:30:04 PM UTC-5 BobW wrote:
>>
>>> I'm contemplating moving my Sam Hillborne from dropbar Noodles to some
>>> kind of upright/swept back handlebar, and to be honest, I am a bit
>>> overwhelmed by the various options.  By way of background, all I have ever
>>> know are dropbar handlebars; but at 60, I'm thinking the sweptback/upright
>>> might be a more comfortable option for my back!!  I like the idea of the
>>> aerodynamic benefit of the drops, so wondering what style of upright might
>>> offer aero for the occasional headwind.  From what I have read on this as
>>> well as a few other forums, the RBW Billiebars seems to get high marks.  I
>>> realize bar styles are somewhat subjective, however hoping the vast wisdom
>>> of the RBW Owners Bunch might educate me.  TIA!!
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass EL $20

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Yep! Thanks Kim.

Even better than I imagined

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 4:34 PM Kim Hetzel  wrote:

> Eliot,
>
> Looks like you finally found an Atlantis bicycle. Toyo made, too ?
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 2:35:25 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Ever wish you could try out the popular Rat Trap Pass tires without
>> dishing out $200 for something that might not fit or you might not like?
>>
>> Here’s your chance. For your consideration,  I have a set of Ratty rat
>> trap pass 26x2.3 for just $20!
>>
>> The catch is that they are heavily worn and booted and I think there’s
>> some mild sidewall damage. I bought these heavily used to test out the
>> tires before taking the plunge and loved them. I’ve put a handful of 20-30
>> mile rides on them and they work great. I can’t in good conscience
>> recommend them for regular service but for someone wishing to test the fit
>> or function they would be a great opportunity.
>>
>> Asking $20 local pick up in Seattle or willing to ship at your cost.
>>
>>
>> Eliot
>>
>> P.S. I’ll take some pics with the new shoes soon.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: SunTour Shifter, plastic washer falling apart.

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For a dollar it’s probably worth a shot. It fits on my simplex shifters…

On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 6:40 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I could be wrong but that brass dome looks too big for the original
> Silver1 (and Suntour Sprint) downtube/bar-end shifters. I know this piece
> will work, I recommend calling Riv before ordering the brass one (which I
> think only fits the Silver2 thumbshifter).
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/silver-shifter-plastic-replacement-washers-pair
>
> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 5:47:21 PM UTC-7 getjosh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've got SunTour bar end shifters on my Atlantis and one of the plastic
>> washers is falling apart. It's mostly gone at this point and there is a
>> fair bit of play in that shifter. Two questions for the group.
>> 1. can this be replaced?
>> 2. would this brass dome washer from Riv
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/brass-dome-washer?variant=41087107530863
>> do the trick, or can those only be used on the silver product. I know that
>> the silver shifters are nearly a copy of the Shimano pod and SunTour
>> shifter.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/ps/42sftk
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Re: [RBW] SunTour Shifter, plastic washer falling apart.

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Yep. It should work just fine.

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> washers is falling apart. It's mostly gone at this point and there is a
> fair bit of play in that shifter. Two questions for the group.
> 1. can this be replaced?
> 2. would this brass dome washer from Riv
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/brass-dome-washer?variant=41087107530863
> do the trick, or can those only be used on the silver product. I know that
> the silver shifters are nearly a copy of the Shimano pod and SunTour
> shifter.
>
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Re: [RBW] Clean AND Buttery Shifting?

[Eliot Balogh]

Also, did you file your cut housing ends?

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 5:34 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:

> Hey John,
>
> It’s a little hard to tell over the internet but based on your
> description, a few thoughts come to mind. Are your cable runs clean with
> easy bends ? Is your housing contaminated ? Can you ease off the binding
> bolt on your shifter ?
>
> I have always avoided lubing my cables out of fear of attracting dirt.
>
> Eliot
>
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 3:15 PM John Rinker  wrote:
>
>> Both my Hunqapillar and Atlantis shift cleanly and, given the state of
>> the rider on a given day, precisely. The Hunq has buttery shifting all
>> across the rear cogs- easy, smooth, and...buttery! The Atlantis, however,
>> is smooth but a little more resistant to change, and requires a little more
>> force.
>>
>> Both bikes have the same lengths of cable housing lined with a silicon
>> spray and the cables are greased with Slick Honey. The Hunq sports Silver
>> Shifters 1.0 and the Atlantis, Gran Compe. Both as bar ends.  Aren't these
>> were basically the same shifters?
>>
>> So, what gives?
>>
>> Cheers, John
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Re: [RBW] Clean AND Buttery Shifting?

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Hey John,

It’s a little hard to tell over the internet but based on your description,
a few thoughts come to mind. Are your cable runs clean with easy bends ? Is
your housing contaminated ? Can you ease off the binding bolt on your
shifter ?

I have always avoided lubing my cables out of fear of attracting dirt.

Eliot

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> Both my Hunqapillar and Atlantis shift cleanly and, given the state of the
> rider on a given day, precisely. The Hunq has buttery shifting all across
> the rear cogs- easy, smooth, and...buttery! The Atlantis, however, is
> smooth but a little more resistant to change, and requires a little more
> force.
>
> Both bikes have the same lengths of cable housing lined with a silicon
> spray and the cables are greased with Slick Honey. The Hunq sports Silver
> Shifters 1.0 and the Atlantis, Gran Compe. Both as bar ends.  Aren't these
> were basically the same shifters?
>
> So, what gives?
>
> Cheers, John
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[RBW] Hunter Nugz

[Eliot Balogh]

Anyone have a singular nugget ?

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Re: [RBW] ISO Better Bar-End Friction Shifting!

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That sounds like an issue with chain retention and not the shifter. Clutch
RD ? New rings ? New chain ?

On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 10:32 AM Caroline Golum 
wrote:

> Currently running 1x10 and friction bar-end shifting. The chain keeps
> coming off my crank, not hitting the right gear in the rear, etc. I've had
> the derailleur serviced, it's fine, etc.
>
> Time to get a new shifter? Switch to indexed shifting? Switch to an 8/9spd
> in the rear? The bar-end shifter is RBW's Shifter - Silver2
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[RBW] Anyone local to Portland, OR able to assist ?

[Eliot Balogh]

Need facilitation for a small purchase. Seller won’t ship. Send me a DM if
you’re down to help.

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Re: [RBW] FS: Garmin Edge 830 MTB Bundle

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A price would probably be helpful

On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 10:02 AM John Dewey  wrote:

> This is basically brand new...I've tried to use it a couple of times but
> my brain and Garmin just do not work well together.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Silicone-Protectors-Touchscreen-Computer/dp/B07TJ7R7J7/ref=asc_df_B07TJ7R7J7?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20=df0=80882941548103=s=e=be=c===pla-4584482468471886=1
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> It is complete including mounts, heart rate monitor strap, etc. Paypal
> preferred.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey
> San Anselmo, CA
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Re: [RBW] FS: Baggins Panniers, Swift, Nitto, Bar Ends

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Cyclone, Paul stuff and Shimano 8 speed have sold.

Nitto rack and thumbies are pending.

XTR m960 price drop to $100. This is the beautiful polished rapid rise
version in like new condition. You probably won’t find a better rear
derailleur for friction shifting. The rapid rise makes it hard to
photograph.

Baggins Pannier Set price drop to $175. Make me an offer !

Swift Moxie Bag is sold.

Also have some steel Nitto Albatross bars and Nitto Mustache bars for $55
each if anyone is interested.



On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 4:41 PM Eliot B  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> Have a few items for sale. I have tried to price them fairly but if I’m
> off, feel free to make me an offer.
>
> NOS Suntour Cyclone GT $75
>
> Baggins Pannier Set - $250? I have no idea.
>
> Nitto Campee Rear Rack - $150
>
> Swift Catalyst - $120, Moxie TT bag $40, Half Frame Bag $100
>
> Bar End Shifters
> Shimano 8 ($40) and 10 speed ($75)
> Sunrace 9 speed thumbies -$20
> Simplex Retrofriction $100
>
> Lightly used XTR rapid rise rear derailleur -$125
>
> Bob Yak -$150
>
> I will likely have some Paul Love Levers and Motolites for sale as well.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/47833614@N04/mueNZEW135
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>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Baggins Panniers, Swift, Nitto, Bar Ends

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I offered it to him this morning and didn’t hear back. Will let you know if
he passes.

On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 9:01 PM Evan E.  wrote:

> Hi Eliot,
>
> Eric Marth of this list is on the hunt for a Cyclone GT. If he doesn’t
> want it, please place me second in the queue and let me know.
>
> Thank you,
> Evan E.
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Re: [RBW] FS: Baggins Panniers, Swift, Nitto, Bar Ends

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I’m thinking $190 for the Motolites and $125 for the Love Levers.

On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 4:41 PM Eliot B  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> Have a few items for sale. I have tried to price them fairly but if I’m
> off, feel free to make me an offer.
>
> NOS Suntour Cyclone GT $75
>
> Baggins Pannier Set - $250? I have no idea.
>
> Nitto Campee Rear Rack - $150
>
> Swift Catalyst - $120, Moxie TT bag $40, Half Frame Bag $100
>
> Bar End Shifters
> Shimano 8 ($40) and 10 speed ($75)
> Sunrace 9 speed thumbies -$20
> Simplex Retrofriction $100
>
> Lightly used XTR rapid rise rear derailleur -$125
>
> Bob Yak -$150
>
> I will likely have some Paul Love Levers and Motolites for sale as well.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/47833614@N04/mueNZEW135
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Atlantis 2 sizing ? Inquiring about a local sale

[Eliot Balogh]

It was originally advertised as a 59cm with a link to the most recent mile
long chainstay geometry.

On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 11:57 AM Josiah Anderson 
wrote:

> That Atlantis is being sold by Second Cycle, a shop that I used to work at
> and have a long connection with. I would be surprised if they're measuring
> incorrectly. I do see that they're listing the seat tube length center to
> center, whereas Rivendell lists their seat tube lengths center to top.
> Echoing others' questions, what seems wrong about it to you? Those
> measurements seem plausible to me.
>
> Josiah Anderson
> Missoula, MT
>
> Le sam. 6 mai 2023 à 12:44 PM, Eliot B  a écrit :
>
>> It’s this one. If it wasn’t an hour each way I’d go check it out myself.
>>
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bid/d/tacoma-rivendell-atlantis-complete-bike/7617558417.html
>>
>> On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 8:35:34 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> This one? Looks like a 58 to me.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-rivendell-atlantis-touring/7618050500.html
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 10:46:01 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 What do you think the numbers should be?  For sure you can't fake or
 mistake 700c.  If it's an Atlantis 2, it's old.  The newer ones have the
 newer decals and no '2'.  If it's 700c and old, the smallest it could
 possibly be is a 58.  If it's a 58 it would be 58cm center to top and darn
 close to 56cm center to center.  The standover seems spot on for a 58.  A
 58 should have more like a 58.5cm effective top tube, center to center, so
 that's the one discrepancy.  I'd bet a dollar that it's an unreliable
 measurer, and that it's a 58.

 How much do they want for it?  Do you have a link?

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

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> There is an Atlantis 2 for sale nearby. They are reporting a 56cm
> ST/57cm TT with 700c wheels and 84cm standover.
>
> This sizing seems off to me for a 700c. Anyone have any insight ? Is
> this a custom?
>
> Eliot
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Re: [RBW] Re: Simworks Ramble Bar experiences

[Eliot Balogh]

Check out Seattle/Portland Craiglist

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 8:55 AM Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
thesixtht...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone have a spare set of these bars they're looking to unload? Very
> interested in these for a new cargo bike build. Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:22:21 PM UTC-5 Damien wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the replies everyone. As an FYI, I'm a bit of a smaller guy,
>> but bought these because I enjoyed my Albatross bars with the only knock on
>> them being that they were too narrow and I felt cramped with them even with
>> a 120mm stem. My hope was that these bars would give some of the benefits I
>> enjoyed with the Albatrossbut wider.
>>
>> On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 11:41:24 UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like mounting these with negative rise could be something like a
>>> wider Choco bar, with a little less sweep, which could be good for trail
>>> riding.  (I love the ChocoMoose on my Hunq, but would be nice to be able to
>>> lean into the bars a bit more off road.)
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:06:38 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 If you still have buyer's remorse after receiving them, let me know.  I
 wasn't aware of these, but they look to be very much what I wish for on a
 daily basis.  (Essentially, a really wide albatross bar.)  Wish they had a
 25.4 or 22.2 clamp area, and the grip area looks too short.  Actually, they
 even admit that part.  But you could always use extenders to lengthen them
 if you don't want bar end shifters.

 Funny that they recommend a specific stem length.  That's really going
 to depend on the bike, the desired position, and the particular rider's
 physiology.  I think you'll still have to experiment with stems, just like
 any bar. It's not like we're living in the 90s when every bike had the
 exact same geometry.

 The reason those look appealing to me is because I'm a big-ish guy with
 broad shoulders and a proprtionally long torso that puts my ideal grip
 posiition further forward than most would want.  The last half-decade or so
 has been a godsend for me with bars getting wider, but most (like the
 tosco) sweep back without sweeping forward first, which means I need a
 longer tem - which are hard to find.

 Let us know what you think.



 On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:55:15 AM UTC-7 Damien wrote:

> Hi! I'm curious if anyone has experience with these bars? I was able
> to track down a pair and I pulled the trigger on them without any real
> thought and had immediate buyers remorse. That said, I'd still love to 
> hear
> others thoughts on them before I go down the dark path of buying parts to
> switch out my drop bars. How do they ride? Are they too wide? How did you
> set them up (i.e., stem length, etc.)? Recommend?
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Oh, and for reference, here they are:
> https://sim-works.com/en/news/golden-pliers-x-simworks-ramble-bar
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bikes For Sale: Craigslist, ebay, etc. Fall 2022 edition

[Eliot Balogh]

NOS Saluki on Eugene OR Craiglist. Looks beautiful.

$2500

https://eugene.craigslist.org/bik/d/eugene-nos-58cm-rivendell-saluki-650b/7600024758.html

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 2:41 AM Russell Duncan  wrote:

> Not that it’s too difficult to scroll to the bottom of the for sale
> posting list, how about the next person to post here does so under a new
> heading such as:Bikes For Sale: Craigslist, ebay, etc. Late Winter
> edition, 2023, or whatever is to your liking
>
> Russell Duncan
> Connecticut River Valley, MA USA
> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:34:56 AM UTC-5 Nick in Sac wrote:
>
>> For sale is my former Roadini. Bought it and it turned out to be too big
>> for me, looks like it is being sold by the guy who purchased it from me.
>>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/584646726892255/?ref=browse_tab_code=marketplace_top_picks_story_type=top_picks
>>
>> On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-7 mitchel...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Clem Smith JR
>>> 52cm
>>> 1,200
>>> SF,CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7592901709.html
>>> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 10:21:24 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: 331260312_5892573310828901_6836777437665179310_n.jpg]

 Sam Hillborne F/F/HS
 62cm
 $1,200
 Vienna, VA


 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/953093402735635/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post

 On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 7:40:26 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
>
> Paging brendonoid!
>
> Rivendell custom cyclocross
> 58cm
> $2,800 USD / $4,000 AUD (plus shipping)
> Melbourne, Australia
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/334623181381
>
> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 12:15:57 PM UTC-5 Tom Palmer wrote:
>
>> The Platypus above is sold. It is in my garage now.
>> Tom
>>
>> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 2:12:57 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> 62cm double-tube Appaloosa in SF Bay. This is either underpriced or
>>> the Riv market is finally having a reality check.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7586412968.html
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 6:30:07 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Rivendell Touring
 No size listed
 $3,000
 Lexington, KY


 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/399785835688755/?hoisted=false=search_code=null_story_type=post

 [image: 307812527_5541503645919163_3580851272735801391_n.jpg]

 Platypus
 60cm
 $3,000
 Grand Rapids, MI


 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1302632586938953/?hoisted=false=search_code=null_story_type=post

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[RBW] Killer deal on Roadini

[Eliot Balogh]

https://denver.craigslist.org/bik/d/arvada-61cm-rivendell-roadini/7588704249.html

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Re: [RBW] Leker Leks Albacore bar (Simworks Ramble etc)

[Eliot Balogh]

I think it looks cool but I’m pretty put off by the fact that it will rust…

On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 8:28 AM  wrote:

> Speaking of the Ramble bar, has anyone checked out the Albacore bar by
> Lekerleks? Leker bars to be sold by Hope Cyclery. Sold at Mack’s Bikes and
> Goods. Made in PA. A wide steel Albatross inspired bar. Not sure they’re
> out there in the world yet.
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Re: [RBW] Hope Cyclery

[Eliot Balogh]

Prices so good it crashed their website …

On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 3:06 PM  wrote:

> For those who aren’t on IG, Hope Cyclery in Johnstown, PA has one XL gold
> Susie partial build/frame/complete, 30% off Surly/All-City/Kona, and some
> nice parts on sale now (Paul etc)
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Rosco Platypus 50cm Purple

[Eliot Balogh]

What’s the diff between the Platy and Rosco Platy ?

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 2:46 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Also of anybody wants the 55 Mermaid Rosco Platy prototype it may still be
> there. I thought Riv was going to post it for sale but I've never seen
> it..call em up!
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:44:02 PM UTC-8 cjus...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Regarding end of year stock:  They were restocked on the site at end of
>> year with a limited amount and have all sold.
>>
>> Regarding Crust:  I think they just have the Platy in stock, not the
>> Rosco Platy.
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:16:26 AM UTC-6 eliot...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Crust has all sizes right now. You don’t even have to pay twice for
>>> shipping.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 5:23 AM Johnny Alien 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Maybe you should call and ask Rivendell. They said at the end of the
 year that they had some back stock of all sizes and colors of the Rosco
 Platy. Its not listed on the site though.

 On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-5 dane...@gmail.com
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> Hey.
>
> Curious if anyone here might have one they are looking to sell?  Could
> be a frameset or possibly a complete.
>
> Thanks
> -Dan
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Rosco Platypus 50cm Purple

[Eliot Balogh]

Crust has all sizes right now. You don’t even have to pay twice for
shipping.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 5:23 AM Johnny Alien 
wrote:

> Maybe you should call and ask Rivendell. They said at the end of the year
> that they had some back stock of all sizes and colors of the Rosco Platy.
> Its not listed on the site though.
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-5 dane...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> Hey.
>>
>> Curious if anyone here might have one they are looking to sell?  Could be
>> a frameset or possibly a complete.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Dan
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Re: [RBW] New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eliot Balogh]

Very interesting project. Great video as always. Thanks for sharing.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 6:35 PM Ryan Frahm  wrote:

> That is a beautiful build, I love it! Hope it rides as nice as it looks!
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:07:02 PM UTC-8 J J wrote:
>
>> Absolutely lovely build, Eric. Beautiful. Thank you for sharing!
>>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 7:20:29 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I posted a bad link to the Google Drive folder with bigger pics.
>>>
>>> This should work.
>>> 
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 7:19:56 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, David!

 Eric: Sorry, not for sale!

 On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:28:40 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Price?
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy
>
> On Jan 23, 2023, at 3:17 PM, David Hays <23wr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Beautiful build!
>
> David Hays
>
> On Jan 23, 2023, at 6:08 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Here are some close-ups I took once I discovered the "macro" mode on
> my partner's ancient Nikon DSLR:
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I
>> have a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but
>> for the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame
>> over to Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the 
>> fork
>> and seat stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss 
>> to
>> the downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also
>> stripped the frame to raw steel.
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>
>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications
>> of patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and
>> wax.
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>
>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver.
>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR
>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque 
>> Phelan.
>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x 
>> Nitto
>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger.
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>
>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo
>> which I shaped and finished.
>>
>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>
>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an
>> XTR M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by 
>> Andre
>> at my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a 
>> Rat
>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front.
>>
>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed
>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M.
>>
>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp
>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset
>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm
>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket
>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer
>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post
>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing
>> • Sim Works x Hoshi
>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>
>> Larger pictures here:
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thanks 

Re: [RBW] Re: A report on my new leather saddle

[Eliot Balogh]

Glad to hear it!

I sold a bike with my last one and decided to embark on a great saddle
discovery adventure. Now 30 some odd saddles later I’m trying to make a B17
conform to my will and will probably end up back on an Anatomica.

Shout out to Selle SMP Avant and Terry Butterfly (yea i know it’s a woman’s
saddle but it makes my butt happy). They are acceptable alternatives.

Eliot

On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 6:36 PM Kim Hetzel  wrote:

> Hi Bruce,
>
> Great to hear from you and your love of your many years of riding on Selle
> Anatomica saddles.
>
> Earlier today, I took a ride around my neighborhood. I stopped here and
> there to adjust my saddle; height, fore and aft, tilt and tension.  I love
> the ease of using an Allen wrench to adjust the tension.
>
> Eliot..
> I decided to tighten up the tension bolt quite a bit and back off a
> little. It feels a lot better now. I still need to go on a longer ride to
> prove itself as being a great saddle. That day will come soon.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 2:45:43 PM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> I've been riding Selle Anatomica saddles since Riv started selling them
>> (they don't at present) many years ago. I prefer the original design for
>> comfort but the current one works well too, and perhaps gives more use
>> before replacement of the leather top.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 8:13:37 PM UTC-6 krhe...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tom..
>>> I am glad to hear that you have and own a Selle Anatomica saddle for the
>>> last two years.  I hope you decide well for your next saddle.  More head
>>> scratching ?
>>>
>>> Eliot...
>>> Since this is my first Selle Anatomica saddle, I did not want touch the
>>> tension bolt yet. I want to see how it rides as is. So far, it is working
>>> up and down the block. I have to go on a long ride and truly see how it
>>> feels and behaves.
>>> Yes, I am aware of Selle Anatomica's website of their "how to videos".
>>> I thank-you for pointing that out to me.
>>>
>>> Keith..
>>> I thank-you for your input. My saddle has those bag loops. However, I
>>> will not be using them. I will be using my Topeak trunk bag.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA
>>>
>>> ...rotated my tires today.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 8:17:13 AM UTC-8 Keith Weaver wrote:
>>>
 I have found a couple of solutions to the lack of bag loops on modern
 saddles. Velo Orange sells clamp on loops, but they didn't look very strong
 to me. The Restuvus saddle attachment is nicely made and feels very secure.
 I haven't used mine a lot, but I think it's a great option. One source I
 found is here: https://builtbyswift.com/shop/hobo-pieces-restuvus/

 On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 7:28 AM Tom Wyland  wrote:

> I found that the Selle Anatomica works for me, too.  I've had mine for
> 2 years now.  I need a saddle for my folding bike and I'm deciding to buy
> another H2 saddle or not.  The selection of non-leather saddles that has
> saddle bag loops is limited, unfortunately.
>
> Tom
> Reston, VA
>
> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 8:37:24 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Doug,
>>
>> You are absolutely correct in of having a saddle that works best for
>> me. Now, I can more on to enjoying the ride and scenery.
>>
>> I have a Brooks B-17 saddle on a bike that I retired years ago that
>> never got broken in. Never felt inclined to put it on my Clem.
>>
>> Thank-you for sharing.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 5:15:13 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Kim,
>>> There is nothing better than a saddle that works for you. From your
>>> photo I can see that the Selle Anotomica truly does have a hammock 
>>> shape,
>>> much different from a Brooks. I'm happy so far with my Brooks B17 but 
>>> it is
>>> good to know there are leather options in the market.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:17:01 AM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>>
 Kim,
 Way to go!  Congrats on getting the saddle you wanted.  It's always
 a bonus to get a piece of gear that makes riding a pleasure.  Many 
 miles to
 you!

 --Joyce

 On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 8:48:16 PM UTC-8
 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yesterday, I received in the mail from a purchase I made from a
> RBW member a Selle Anotomica H1 black gun metal leather saddle. He 
> gave me
> a real good deal on it. It had not been ridden with some blemishes on 
> the
> saddle. This is my first Selle Anatomica saddle.
>
> My Brooks B67S saddle was hurting my seat bones. Have I become
> older ? ...or has my butt gotten more bony ? I rode 14 miles last 
> week. I
> had to stop occasionally and rest. Needless to 

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul home polish

[Eliot Balogh]

Can you get the finished product clear coated to help with longevity?

How does Paul treat their factory polished version ?

On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 1:03 PM lconley  wrote:

> You are assuming that all anodized parts are available without anodizing,
> which it not true for all parts.
>
> Note that most colored anodizing is temporary also, the anodizing fades
> over time. Easy and cheap to restore polished parts, anodized parts - not
> so much.
>
> Black parts show wear and scratches much more than silver.
>
> Even the best silver/clear anodizing wears off. I have a well used 50 year
> old Campagnolo triple crank that has lost its anodizing in many locations,
> I am sure glad that it isn't black, it would look awful.
>
> I would not consider polished aluminum parts high maintenance, many go for
> years before needing a quick rub with Simichrome and then they are like new.
>
> You want a high maintenance finish - I have a set of brass Honjo fenders
> for you. One end of the fender tarnishes as you are polishing the other end.
>
> Laing
>
> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 1:43:14 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:
>
>>
>> I’m with Garth - if you’ve got anodized parts you’d like to make silver…
>> arrange a trade!
>>
>> Philip
>>
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 7:29:05 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> While I don't have any Paul brakes, over Life I've had plenty of
>>> aluminum parts that were of a natural, untreated finish. You can polish
>>> them all you like, but it doesn't last every long until they require more
>>> polishing. The polishing is an attempt to seal the exterior, to create a
>>> "buffer" from the elements, so to speak. It's high maintenance for sure as
>>> it's only temporary.  The durable hard anodizing manufacturers use is a
>>> chemical process and as long they're not exposed to excessive corrosive
>>> elements the finish remains indefinitely. Once that finish is removed,
>>> there's no going back, they are back to their natural untreated state. A
>>> sure way to tell the finish of any aluminum part is to rub it with a clean
>>> rag or even your hands as it will leave that telltale gray residue.
>>>
>>> As far as I'm concerned if a part is finished black, or anodized a dull
>>> silver, I leave it alone, or don't buy it in the first place if I can't
>>> live it as purchased. There can be a few exceptions, notably if it's
>>> something tiny. Surely though, I see black and silver parts as
>>> complimentary rather than conflicting.
>>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 6:41:43 PM UTC-5 brendonoid wrote:
>>>

 *"The other set of cantis are on a new build I just finished."*

 Whoa, hold up! What a teaser, I can't wait.

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[RBW] Paul home polish

[Eliot Balogh]

Eric, how are your home polished Paul’s holding up?

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Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell/Nitto lugged quill stem

[Eliot Balogh]

I don’t see it

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 11:00 AM dylan green 
wrote:

> I've been hanging onto this for far too long.
> Overall nice shape with no damage etc. worth noting. Some use, but ended up
> selling the frame this was intended for.
> about 95mm in length.
> After shipping I'd like to get $180
> Here is a quick photo: https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAoEyw
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Eliot Balogh]

I have never bothered chasing the bottom bracket threads and haven’t had
any issues. I think if they’re well greased and you don’t have a lot of
resistance, I don’t see a problem. The counter argument is that it’s cheap
and easy to do so you might as well do it right.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 11:01 AM Ryan Bolesta  wrote:

> Hi Jake,
>
> I’m in a similar position as you with a LimeOlive Sam! I was impatient for
> a full bike build from Riv and thought this would be a great opportunity to
> learn by building it myself. I’m just waiting on my wheels to come in later
> this week and then it’s full steam ahead!
>
> I also considered bar-ends when I saw that the mounts were out of stock,
> but I was able to find the s2 shifters & thumb mount combos from Blue Lug’s
> site!
>
> Question for you (or anyone): Are you going to (or is it necessary) to
> have the bottom bracket threads chased before installing the BB? Seems to
> be differing opinions on whether it's necessary across other posts on the
> forum.
>
> Best of luck with your build, excited to see how it turns out!
>
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 1:40:19 PM UTC-7 jak...@me.com wrote:
>
>> “Any changes in parts and such while thinking over the build?”
>>
>> Reginald - yes, a few!   I switched to bar ends as thumbie mounts were
>> temporarily out of stock and I was impatient.  Lots of downstream effects
>> from that one.  I originally wanted to go with Ergon cork grips with
>> something like a Billie or a Crumworks bar.  I’ll see if the bar-ends on my
>> old Albatross and prodigious use of Newbaums works.  It’ll be creative
>> (nice word for obviously DIY).  If it’s not comfy, easy enough to make a
>> change.
>>
>> With the gigantic pedals, I am concerned with toe-to-tire spacing, so am
>> holding off on fenders.  Also no decision on racks. Crushed that the Nitto
>> Potluck rack is NLA.
>>
>> Getting there.  Riv box delivered today, more work this weekend.
>> Assuming the Nexave derailer doesn’t derail me, should be finished up and
>> ready to ride.  (Whoa that’s a big photo - sorry).
>>
>> Jake
>>
>> [image: A00698B8-FA9B-4BE4-8582-253D37FDB4B9.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:46:21 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations How exciting when the planning and futzing over the
>>> bike and parts finally come together. Any changes in parts and such while
>>> thinking over the build? I know when I built the Rivendell Mountain I went
>>> back and forth on several items. Thought of doing an 8 speed freewheel, but
>>> it seemed much when accounting for the hub set up and scarcity of 8 speed
>>> freewheels. Planned on doing a Nitto built Ritchey stem, but going with the
>>> Softride suspension stem was a strong pull.
>>>
>>> Take it slow, don't supper force anything. Take it easy with the hammer!
>>> Lol!!!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Reginald Alexis
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 9:37:33 AM UTC-6 jak...@me.com wrote:
>>>
 I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".

 If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've
 never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be
 a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.

 Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so
 I shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the
 anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be
 virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I
 have a hammer around here somewhere.

 If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and
 true, I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.

 See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!

 #goheavyontheboeshield

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Eliot Balogh]

Very nice. I’m not familiar with that model rear derailleur. It may have a
different pull ratio than the 9 speed road shifters. Assuming that your
limit screws are set up properly it may just be an issue with cable
tension. It’s probably not a b screw issue if you can shift it smoothly
with friction. Is it skipping in some gears ? When it’s happening and you
look at it from behind does the chain look closer to one of the neighboring
gears ? If it’s rubbing the bigger cog then turn your barrel adjuster
clockwise. If it’s rubbing against the smaller cog, turn it counter
clockwise. Do this in small increments (1/4 turn) until it stops skipping
and looks to be centered in that gear.

Constructive feedback: your chain looks a hair tight to my eyes but it may
be just right for big-big which is discouraged but semi appropriate in a
double setup. I wouldnt worry about it but when it needs to be replaced,
try going one link longer and seeing if you can get away with that without
rubbing the bottom of the derailleur. Also, is your saddle rotated ?

Sorry for the unsolicited advice. Looks great. Glad you are loving it !
Thanks for the Riv Bandana. It’s sweet.

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 11:39 AM Eric Marth  wrote:

> Nice job Jake!
>
> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 10:41:20 AM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Looks great Jake! Congrats on your first build, seems like you have a
>> knack for it.
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 9:31:06 AM UTC-5 jak...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Done!
>>>
>>> No one was hurt in the process, thankfully!  It goes, stops, and
>>> actually shifts.  What fun.   My reflections are that I know I took about
>>> 10 times longer to build this than was necessary, but I enjoyed every
>>> minute.  Very little profanity was used, hardly any at all.  The derailer
>>> hanger was out about, say, 5-10 degrees out of the box, so that was an easy
>>> adjustment with the expensive Park tool that I may never use again.  :-)
>>>  I was able to find Shimano instructions for the Nexave online, so that was
>>> super helpful.  I still need to dial the shifting in, but it works
>>> beautifully in friction mode.  It's a mess in index mode.  I think I have
>>> my answer there.  Keep it in friction.  Right.  Getting the FD dialed in
>>> was much more finicky than I anticipated.
>>>
>>> Where's Kim?  Hey Kim, the Selle Anatomica rocks!  Right out of the box
>>> super comfort.   I'm definitely joining the club.  I am going to kick my
>>> old B-17 to the curb.  And the big H stamped on the saddle matches with
>>> Hillborne!  Bonus.  I am going to hold off on the shellac as the Newbaum
>>> feels great naked.  If it gets gnarly over time it's easy enough to
>>> rewrap.  I might hit up the twine with some shellac though.  I might also
>>> swap out those black DXR brake handles for some expensive Paul's as I am
>>> not sure I like the black.  They sure do work well, though.  The Albatross
>>> looks huge in this picture, but not so much in reality.  It's a keeper -
>>> super comfortable.  Body positioning is very neutral on this upright
>>> configuration. Love the platform of the pedals.  I tried to keep the
>>> obnoxious blue to a minimum while accenting it.  That's an Air Force blue
>>> if anyone was wondering.
>>>
>>> Needs a rack or two, undecided on fenders (toe clearance), and a cool
>>> matching stowaway bag from Tunitas is on it's way.  Time to re-torque
>>> everything and go for a nice long ride.
>>>
>>> [image: Silver Sam.JPG]
>>>
>>> Last night when I finished it.  Cockpit view.
>>>
>>> [image: SH Cockpit.JPG]
>>>
>>> Fun stuff!
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 8:59:39 AM UTC-5 Slacky Mac wrote:
>>>
 Have you looked at the SimWorks "Obento" rack?

 Hi David, yes I did.  Jess (of Tunitas) directed me to the Obento after
 I inquired what that beautiful rack was on her bike pictured on the Riv
 site.  Sadly, not the same aesthetic as the Potluck.  Similar function
 though.

 On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 3:34:11 AM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Have you looked at the SimWorks "Obento" rack?
>https://www.sim.works/products/obento-rack
> Pricey, but the "shiny" version seems to be in stock!
>
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:40:19 PM UTC-8 jak...@me.com wrote:
>
>> “Any changes in parts and such while thinking over the build?”
>>
>> Reginald - yes, a few!   I switched to bar ends as thumbie mounts
>> were temporarily out of stock and I was impatient.  Lots of downstream
>> effects from that one.  I originally wanted to go with Ergon cork grips
>> with something like a Billie or a Crumworks bar.  I’ll see if the 
>> bar-ends
>> on my old Albatross and prodigious use of Newbaums works.  It’ll be
>> creative (nice word for obviously DIY).  If it’s not comfy, easy enough 
>> to
>> make a change.
>>
>> With the gigantic pedals, I am concerned with 

Re: [RBW] Re: A report on my new leather saddle

[Eliot Balogh]

It’s all personal preference but i prefer running mine with more tension
than the one in your photo. Their website has some recommendations on how
to tension.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 7:28 AM Tom Wyland  wrote:

> I found that the Selle Anatomica works for me, too.  I've had mine for 2
> years now.  I need a saddle for my folding bike and I'm deciding to buy
> another H2 saddle or not.  The selection of non-leather saddles that has
> saddle bag loops is limited, unfortunately.
>
> Tom
> Reston, VA
>
> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 8:37:24 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Doug,
>>
>> You are absolutely correct in of having a saddle that works best for me.
>> Now, I can more on to enjoying the ride and scenery.
>>
>> I have a Brooks B-17 saddle on a bike that I retired years ago that never
>> got broken in. Never felt inclined to put it on my Clem.
>>
>> Thank-you for sharing.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 5:15:13 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Kim,
>>> There is nothing better than a saddle that works for you. From your
>>> photo I can see that the Selle Anotomica truly does have a hammock shape,
>>> much different from a Brooks. I'm happy so far with my Brooks B17 but it is
>>> good to know there are leather options in the market.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:17:01 AM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>>
 Kim,
 Way to go!  Congrats on getting the saddle you wanted.  It's always a
 bonus to get a piece of gear that makes riding a pleasure.  Many miles to
 you!

 --Joyce

 On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 8:48:16 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Yesterday, I received in the mail from a purchase I made from a RBW
> member a Selle Anotomica H1 black gun metal leather saddle. He gave me a
> real good deal on it. It had not been ridden with some blemishes on the
> saddle. This is my first Selle Anatomica saddle.
>
> My Brooks B67S saddle was hurting my seat bones. Have I become older ?
> ...or has my butt gotten more bony ? I rode 14 miles last week. I had to
> stop occasionally and rest. Needless to say, it was very annoying.
>
> Today, I hung up the Brooks saddle. I installed my Selle Anatomica H1
> saddle on my PAUL Tall & Handsome seat post. Test rode the saddle to dial
> it in to my comfort between my garage and up and down the street about six
> or seven times.
>
> Guess what ? it truly is a "hammock for my butt" !
>
> It is quite comfortable. I think I can see myself riding longer
> distances with more smiles.
>
> Less rain in the forecast for next week. Time to ride more.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Eliot Balogh]

Yes! I would absolutely take a free bandana for funzies. Since you haven’t
started the build yet, you might consider some Frame Saver. Especially if
you’re anywhere near the sea (my Florida geography is quite limited but I
think I see the ocean).

It used to be owned by JP Weigle and is now sold under Problem Solvers.

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:13 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Thanks Eliot -
>
> If there was an award for box recognition, you would have won it!   How
> about a free bandana?  The BB is on it's way from Riv, along with a S83
> seat post to replace the stocker.   I also could not resist the blue BB
> cable guide - damn those guys.  I am armed with grease, spray, oil, lube,
> blue thread locker, and anti-seize.  I have the best bike stand in the
> world - a borrowed one!   If Eric knew how many of those YouTube watch
> counts were from me, he'd think me a stalker.  :-)
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 12:04:52 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I’ll play this game. None of those boxes are shaped like a square taper
>> bottom bracket box.
>>
>> Good luck! Reach out for help as needed. It’s much less intimidating than
>> it looks. Park tools has some excellent videos. Make sure you have some
>> good grease and cable cutters. Also feel free to watch the meditative Bob
>> Ross (Eric Marth) of bike building on YouTube for inspiration. I’ve been
>> meaning to ask him if the babbling brook is fake but I don’t want to know
>> the answer.
>>
>> Eliot
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 8:37 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kim,
>>>
>>> Good eye!  I'll try my Albatross bar that never worked with my RB-1 and
>>> replace the original drops.  I feel like I will end up with something like
>>> a Nitto X Crumbworks bar (I'm a distance motorcyclist - love the palms-down
>>> hand position) but need to put some (s)miles on the Sam before figuring
>>> that out.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey Jake,

 Where are your handlebars ? ...or did I not see them in your picture ?

 Kim Hetzel
 Yelm, WA.

 On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:41:21 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:

> Looks amazing. Good luck!
>
> k.
>
> On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>
>
> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've
> never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to 
> be
> a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>
> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so
> I shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the
> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be
> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I
> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>
> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and
> true, I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>
> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>
> #goheavyontheboeshield
>
> [image: Sam Parts.jpg]
>
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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Eliot Balogh]

I’ll play this game. None of those boxes are shaped like a square taper
bottom bracket box.

Good luck! Reach out for help as needed. It’s much less intimidating than
it looks. Park tools has some excellent videos. Make sure you have some
good grease and cable cutters. Also feel free to watch the meditative Bob
Ross (Eric Marth) of bike building on YouTube for inspiration. I’ve been
meaning to ask him if the babbling brook is fake but I don’t want to know
the answer.

Eliot


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> Hi Kim,
>
> Good eye!  I'll try my Albatross bar that never worked with my RB-1 and
> replace the original drops.  I feel like I will end up with something like
> a Nitto X Crumbworks bar (I'm a distance motorcyclist - love the palms-down
> hand position) but need to put some (s)miles on the Sam before figuring
> that out.
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Jake,
>>
>> Where are your handlebars ? ...or did I not see them in your picture ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:41:21 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> Looks amazing. Good luck!
>>>
>>> k.
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>>>
>>>
>>> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've
>>> never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be
>>> a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>>>
>>> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so I
>>> shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the
>>> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be
>>> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I
>>> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>>>
>>> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and
>>> true, I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>>>
>>> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>>>
>>> #goheavyontheboeshield
>>>
>>> [image: Sam Parts.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Eliot Balogh]

I think they had a 58cm frameset too. Appaloosa maybe ?

On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 6:45 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> RivSister Joyce, how can this be? I’m completely shocked. Especially
> because both of those models rarely go for sale, and there they are, like
> diamonds, glinting amongst the coal. Wow. Good finds!
>
> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 1:17:17 AM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>
>> I stopped by Recycled Cycles tonight in Seattle and was shocked to see
>> two used Rivendells for sale.  I didn't note all the components on the
>> bikes; you'll have to contact Recycled Cycles if you're interested (info
>> below).  The photos aren't great, sorry!
>>
>> *Hunqapilar,* 60 cm, $2500.
>> Included Nitto racks, looked like Mark's and Big Back Rack, and a small
>> Sackville saddle bag.
>>
>> *Cheviot*, 60cm, $1900
>>
>> They also had the following that looked very lightly used or new, but
>> were labeled with second-hand prices:
>> --Brooks Flyer saddles (2, black)
>> --Acorn saddle bags (2)
>> --Sackville basket sack (olive)
>> - Sackville trunk sack (olive, $65)
>> -- Carradice Bagman with quick release (black)
>>
>> Recycled Cycles
>> 206-547-4491 <(206)%20547-4491>
>> recycledcycles.com
>> 1007 NE Boat Street, Seattle WA
>> 
>>
>> [image: IMG_1886.jpg][image: IMG_1887.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 9:46:29 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> Bleriot, 55 cm
>>> $1950
>>> Seattle
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-bleriot-650b-size-55/7518207928.html
>>>
>>> Hubbuhubbuh, Medium
>>> $2700
>>> Whidbey Island (north of Seattle)
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/clinton-hubbuhubbuh-tandem-rivendell/7513433319.html
>>>
>>> Clem H, 45 cm
>>> $1800
>>> Seattle
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-45/7514261621.html
>>>
>>> Clem L, 64cm  (Frameset/wheel set)
>>> $1200
>>> Eugene, OR
>>>
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/eugene-rivendell-frameset-wheelset-64cm/7518051955.html
>>>
>>> Sam Hillborne, 57cm
>>> $1950
>>> Portland, OR
>>>
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/bik/d/clackamas-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7514172354.html
>>>
>>> Atlantis, 64cm
>>> $2100
>>> Corvallis, OR
>>>
>>> https://corvallis.craigslist.org/bik/d/corvallis-rivendell-atlantis/7518027546.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 10:48:45 AM UTC-7 lwt...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have Wavie bars on my Atlantis and those look very similar.
 Lance

 On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 11:46:20 AM UTC-6 brizbarn wrote:

> Anyone know what bars are on this Atlantis?  Posting is deleted on CL,
> so can't look there.
>
> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 6:37:08 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Atlantis
>> 59cm
>> 3600
>> Berkeley, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-atlantis-59cm/7511867606.html
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Re: [RBW] Which Paul brakes for a Quickbeam or Simple One?

[Eliot Balogh]

Why not do the motolite V brakes ? I bet they rock

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 10:19 AM Drew Henson  wrote:

> Also depends on if you want to run fenders. I don't think the minimotos
> have all that much clearance depending on tire size.
>
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 10:06:49 AM UTC-8 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you Mark, good to know.
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:04:13 PM UTC-5 esoter...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> The Paul Minomotos are actually short-pull calipers, so you can use the
>>> same short-pull levers that you would use with the touring/neo-retro
>>> cantilevers. The Paul Motolites are the ones that use long-pull levers.
>>>
>>> ~Mark
>>> Raleigh, NC
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2023, at 12:57, JohnS  wrote:
>>>
>>> The "are Paul's brakes worth it thread" got me thinking that I should
>>> give them a try on my Quickbeam. What do people have experience with? I
>>> like the idea of using touring canti's on the rear and minimotos on the
>>> front as seen on this Rock Lobster build over on The Radivist.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://theradavist.com/cyclofunk-single-speed-rock-lobster-cyclocross-kyle-kelley/
>>>
>>> The only problem with that is, I'll have to get two pairs of brake
>>> levels, one short pull and one long pull. I'm planning on using Mark/noodle
>>> drop bars, so the Tektro R340 and RL520 brake levers are at reasonably
>>> priced at $30/pair.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions are appreciated,
>>> JohnS
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Eliot Balogh]

Patrick, can you use a Suntour power hanger ? I loved mine.



On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 5:24 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Thanks, good to know.
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 6:06 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Klampers are great, the couple hydraulic systems I've tried (stock on new
>> bikes, I don't remember the brands) were marginally greater on the road but
>> not worth the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls. Your
>> results may vary on steep, rocky descents I don't ride.
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:46:22 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Philip: Can you (or can anyone else for that matter) say how the
>>> Klampers perform compared to TRP Hy Rds or to full hydraulics? I was just
>>> talking to my brother about the Hy Rds and wondering if the Kampers would
>>> be as powerful and modulate as well without the hydraulic complication.
>>>
>>> The Klampers have single-side pad actuation, right?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:36 PM Philip Williamson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 ... I do have a set of NIB Klampers I considered building a bike
 around, but went with yet another canti-post bike (a Bruce Gordon, woot!).

>>>
 Philip
 Sonoma County, Calif (did it really just stop raining?)

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Re: [RBW] Where is there a good source for colored twine ?

[Eliot Balogh]

Not into shellac Kim?

On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 6:05 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:

> I had a link for a website that sold imitation twine, but I misplaced it
> in my bookmarks.
>
> Is there a specific type or brand that excels better than the other is in
> being durable in all sorts of weather ?
>
> Thank-you,
> Kim Hetzel
> ...trying to finish off my chain stay, my low bar and soon my handlebar
> grips on my Clem Smith Jr. "L".
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Re: [RBW] Bikes For Sale: Craigslist, ebay, etc. Fall 2022 edition

[Eliot Balogh]

Really nice build Wolbis Slugstone? in Sausalito
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/sausalito-rivendell-wolbis-susie-56/7570053337.html

Heron in NC
I’m not sure about their sizing since 54 is supposed to be 700c? But seems
like a good deal.

https://winstonsalem.craigslist.org/bik/d/winston-salem-heron-touring-bicycle-54/7569279283.html

On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 6:14 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I suppose there's someone out there who thinks an NOS Bleriot frameset is
> worth that kind of money. And bless their heart!
>
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:24:16 PM UTC-8 J wrote:
>
>> From the ad
>>
>> New in box Rivendell Bleriot framesets in 55, 57 & 59cm sizes.
>> Ex QBP (Surly/Salsa/All-City) distributor with hard-to-find NOS stock to
>> sell. We bought these when they were available via QBP in MN and have been
>> sitting in dry storage for too long!
>> Rivendell's first Taiwan-made frames IIRC and the same quality as their
>> current offerings.
>> 59cm currently being held pending payment.
>> Tange headset professionally fitted to the 59cm model for display. I'm
>> happy to leave as fitted or remove it if preferred.
>> These are located in Christchurch, NZ and I'm happy to ship worldwide at
>> buyers cost. Approx. international tracked delivery costs in NZ$
>> Freight to :
>> USA $707 NZD (approx. $467 USD),
>> Canada $661 NZD (approx. $590 CAD)
>> Japan $570 NZD (approx. ¥50,000)
>> Most of Eastern Asia $570 NZD
>> UK $661 NZD (approx. £350)
>> Europe $661 NZD (approx. 410 EU)
>> You're also welcome to get quotes and arrange you own delivery, typically
>> based on 0.1 m3 volume and 5kg shipping weight.
>> Shipping is from Christchurch 8061, New Zealand
>> Or maybe you know someone visiting NZ or in the US Antarctic Program (12
>> miles from where these are located) with some spare luggage capacity.
>> Inquiries are welcome and I'm happy to schedule a WhatsApp or Signal
>> video link to verify authenticity. Also Luke Breen, owner of Perennial
>> Cycle in Minneapolis will vouch for me.
>> I'm open to offers that approximate the price of current equivalent
>> Rivendell framesets, i.e. $1750 USD ($2650 NZD)
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 4:21:59 PM UTC-5 Chris in NZ wrote:
>>
>>> Pitching in on the Bleriots as a Kiwi:
>>>
>>> I can't see the FB listing, but I expect these to be the same frames
>>> I've seen previously listed on another online trading platform here in NZ
>>> at $1400NZD. If they're now listed at $1800, I'm inclined to believe this
>>> is still in NZD, around $1000USD.
>>> For shipping allow $500 these days.
>>>
>>> I would have bought the 55cm frame last year had I not been in the final
>>> stages of ordering a Platypus frame and parts from Riv..
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 8:34:12 AM UTC+13 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Tom.  He has adjusted for inflation and shipping will be a
 killer.  The Bleriot is a great bike, I had one for years and I know people
 still want them, heck, I did not stop searching till I found a Saluki ashen
 sold my 55cm Bleriot.  If someone could get it for $1800 or so shipped
 then good.  I bet shipping will be about $300 or more.

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 On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 1:46 PM, Tom Wyland  wrote:

 $1750 plus shipping from New Zealand.

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> Not on Face Book, what is the asking price?
>
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> On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 1:21 PM, Jared Wilson 
> wrote:
>
> NOS Bleriot framesets in 55, 57, and 59 on the Facebook group
> "Rivendellicious"
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/19202914712
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 5:53:07 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Gus Boots Wilsen
>> 57cm
>> $2,000
>> Knoxville, TN
>>
>>
>> https://knoxville.craigslist.org/bik/d/greenville-2022-rivendell-gus-boots/7557073606.html
>>
>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 9:54:29 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
>>>
>>> Heron F/F/HS
>>> 59cm
>>> Glencoe, Missouri
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/225290552848
>>>
>>> [image: s-l1600-1.jpg]
>>>
>>> Emmet's Atlantis
>>> 62cm
>>> $4,100
>>> Johnstown, Penna.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/I0J98HEzLE8/m/kIFrddphAwAJ
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/204180214887
>>>
>>> [image: 00C0C_cYCQbXn7REEz_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
>>>
>>> Platypus F/F/HS
>>> 60cm
>>> $1,637
>>> Eugene, OR
>>>
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/7564024599.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 2:19:43 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>
 There's a 62cm Hunqapillar complete at Hope Cyclery for $3,600

 

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Toyo Atlantis

[Eliot Balogh]

Thanks dude.

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 8:35 PM Luke Hendrickson 
wrote:

> That Gunnar is dreamy dude.
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 1:36:28 PM UTC-8 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I have a Gunnar Sport with 32mm as my fast bike and if you promise not to
>> laugh, this is my garish dad bike.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 12:47 PM Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>>
>>> You are more than welcome.
>>>
>>> I'm riding a 59cm Clem Smith Jr L bicycle. Third owner in less than one
>>> year.
>>> I love it !
>>>
>>> What are you currently riding ?
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 12:34 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’ve been checking it 10 times a day :p I have a problem I know.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks though !
>>>>
>>>> What are you riding ?
>>>>
>>>> Eliot in Seattle
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 10:56 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Eliot,
>>>>>
>>>>> You might want to keep both eyes open in a watch through the FACEBOOK
>>>>> Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE site;
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/?mibextid=6NoCDW
>>>>>
>>>>> A member herein recently found what he was looking for; a Rivendell
>>>>> 64cm Clem Smith Jr. "H" bike.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 5:28:26 AM UTC-8 eliot...@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I know it’s a long shot and I have saved EBay searches but if anyone
>>>>>> has a Toyo built Atlantis in 54.5 or 56. I’d love to talk to you about
>>>>>> buying it complete or frameset. Thanks !
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Toyo Atlantis

[Eliot Balogh]

I’ve been checking it 10 times a day :p I have a problem I know.

Thanks though !

What are you riding ?

Eliot in Seattle

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 10:56 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:

> Hi Eliot,
>
> You might want to keep both eyes open in a watch through the FACEBOOK
> Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE site;
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/?mibextid=6NoCDW
>
> A member herein recently found what he was looking for; a Rivendell 64cm
> Clem Smith Jr. "H" bike.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 5:28:26 AM UTC-8 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I know it’s a long shot and I have saved EBay searches but if anyone has
>> a Toyo built Atlantis in 54.5 or 56. I’d love to talk to you about buying
>> it complete or frameset. Thanks !
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

[Eliot Balogh]

I think Grant said ~$170. Sensah offered to do them for $350 which he was
adamantly against as he wanted them to be affordable and functional rather
than something artistic that no one bought.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 6:24 AM Shoji Takahashi 
wrote:

> I'd love to try it-- unfortunately an unlikely proposition for me.
>
> After seeing the RH price point, I'm scared to think what the Riv derailer
> will cost.
>
> shoji
> arlington ma
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 8:39:29 AM UTC-5 Bill Schairer wrote:
>
>> I'm intrigued but consider all the bits needed to make it happen and one
>> is probably looking at more like $1,500 and, besides that, most of those
>> added bits aren't available!?  I'm still intrigued, though.
>>
>> Bill S
>> San Diego
>>
>> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> I'm all peanut gallery on this one. I'm reminded of a Canadian rock band
>>> I listened to as a teen named Max Webster. They had an album called "High
>>> Class in Borrowed Shoes". I never really related much to that title until
>>> right now.. and how underneath the inflated image of "high class"
>>> resides the person, place or thing as it truly is. In this case, it's
>>> "just" a derailleur regardless of the sales pitch and inflated sense of
>>> worthiness. Not to diminish the "just", I mean that as the authenticity of
>>> Existence. A derailleur is a marvelous and ingenious thing and no amount of
>>> over or under inflating can change that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: How you choose 2 Rivendells?

[Eliot Balogh]

Max,

That Atlantis is absolutely stunning. I don’t think a more beautiful build
is possible!

I’m sure I’ll get banned for asking this because it doesn’t matter and goes
against the ethos but… purely out of curiosity, how much does it weigh in
that configuration?

On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 7:15 AM reynoldslugs  wrote:

> Well, I'd choose this:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157696979339224
>
> and that:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157645542691980
>
> Legolas - fast and fun, light.  Always makes me happy.
> Atlantis - same but more rock solid.
>
> My favorite bike... is whichever one I'm riding at the moment.
>
> Happy Holidays everyone, stay safe
> Max Beach
> Santa Rosa CA
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:30:49 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Hey Masa!
>>
>> This is a cool companion to the occasional One Riv To Rule Them All
>> threads we do around here.
>>
>> I'm currently a one Riv (and one folding bike) person, my custom is a
>> low-stepover kinda-pavement-oriented bike like your Platypus: It'll go just
>> about anywhere but wasn't designed for hardcore off-road riding or full-on
>> touring loads. I've done some shopping runs on it that I could feel in the
>> frame was probably pushing my luck with how much weight I was carrying, so
>> for me my second Riv would be heavier duty. I've also recently moved to an
>> area with a bunch of fire roads and singletrack, and although my riding
>> interests/capabilities would preclude major mountain biking escapades I'd
>> still like to know my frame could take the abuse.
>>
>> So I'd reach as far from my lightish roadish frame as possible, which
>> takes me past the lugged frames and into Clem or Gus territory. What I end
>> up with - if/when I decide to do it - would depend largely on money and
>> opportunity to pick something up. I really like the Gus but they're pricey
>> even used and rarely available; Clems are great and easier to find. I've
>> owned a few and imagine I'll have one again sometime.
>>
>> I hope this was helpful for you. I saw on another thread that you asked
>> Leah for a comparison of her Platy(s) and Clem L, I hope she chimes in
>> here, she has much to say and says it well! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:52:42 PM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, I would like to ask you how you would choose 2 Rivendells if you
>>> could own.
>>>
>>> Which models? What kind of purposes? What kind of weather? What kind of
>>> roads? Any definition is welcome.
>>>
>>> I'm currently riding a Platypus and I feel like I can ride it everywhere
>>> for any purpose as Riv says it's an All-rounder so I just would like to
>>> know how you would add one more Riv or how you are riding 2 Rivs already as
>>> a reference (possibly for my future 2nd Riv).
>>>
>>> I hope you enjoy the topic!
>>>
>>> Masa
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] 57cm A Homer Hilsen Geo ?

[Eliot Balogh]

Looking at a frameset and owner doesn’t know the year. Top tube is 57cm
CTC, seat tube is 57cm CTT. Head tube is 15mm.

There are only a few years on Bike Insights but this would suggest it’s a
57cm frame from ~2017. Did the geometry change much around those years ?
The stack and reach are great but the stand over is about the same as my
PBH :p

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[RBW] Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

[Eliot Balogh]

How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have
compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ?

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

[Eliot Balogh]

Do you folks think they will sell out quickly ?

On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:30 PM J S  wrote:

> Paul, my custom was 56cm measured by Grant, my Hillborne is 51cm and fits
> as it should.
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 2:56 PM Paul Clifton 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm not looking to buy a Sam, but I just glanced at the size chart on
>> Instagram, and, wow, the sizing has changed dramatically over the years. My
>> PBH is 82cm. That puts me on a 51cm Sam for this current batch. When I test
>> rode one of the originals with caliper brakes, it was a 56cm I believe, and
>> it fit perfectly. I haven't kept up with the geometry changes, but I'd
>> really like to see what it's like to ride a 51cm frame and be at the top
>> end of a size range for once. I bet the reach would be sublime.
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 1:47:53 PM UTC-6 Houston Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> I'd love the catalog!!
>>> Houston Wilson
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:16:50 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 For the voracious and anxious waiters of shipping containers:  I've
 stumbled upon a Rivendell Sam Hillborne catalog.  It's from one of the
 sidepull brake variants of the Sam Hillborne.  If anybody wants it, let me
 know and I can mail it to whomever.

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

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> over the potential build.  Perusing these pages with all of your
> experiences have really helped.  I thought the lime olive was for me until
> I saw the early photos of the HiHo Silver.  Smitten.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

[Eliot Balogh]

What size JS ? :)

On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 7:22 PM J S  wrote:

> My bright orange from the batch before the Dark Gold is 27.2.
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:58:35 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>
>> "I do not recall a 26.8mm seatpost in the past for the Sam H."
>>
>> My Dark Gold Sam from the last batch 2 (3?) years ago has a 26.8 seatpost
>> diameter, so this isn't new.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 7:04:00 AM UTC-8 jak...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Anxiously awaiting the new Sams to land on our shores and am obsessing
>>> over the potential build.  Perusing these pages with all of your
>>> experiences have really helped.  I thought the lime olive was for me until
>>> I saw the early photos of the HiHo Silver.  Smitten.
>>>
>>> Anyone going in on these?  I feel like I am on baby watch!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Your Favorite V-Brake Pads?!

[Eliot Balogh]

Isn’t the answer always kool stop?

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 5:57 PM 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Hey, Bunch:
>
> What v-brake pads are you running, and what are your thoughts about their
> function?
>
> I've been running Shimano XTR pads and find they have a "hard" feel to
> them.
>
> Happy holidays,
>
> Scott in Montana
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Re: [RBW] Re: FOR SALE : TERRY/NITTO STEM

[Eliot Balogh]

How long ?

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 10:47 AM 'Charlie' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> bump
>
> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 2:35:47 PM UTC-5 Charlie wrote:
>
>> 2 BOLT  FACEPLATE
>>
>> On Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 8:34:54 PM UTC-5 Charlie wrote:
>>
>>> NOS TERRY/NITTO STEM 22.2 mm STEERER - 26mm BAR
>>>
>>> $30 CASH OR USPS MONEY ORDER ( POST OFFICE ) NO OTHER MONEY ORDER
>>>
>>> SHIPPING $10 TO U.S.A.
>>>
>>> CONTACT OFF LIST PLEASE
>>>
>>> [image: DSCF2003.JPG][image: CIMG6613.JPG]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 52 Clem H, Nitto Rear Rack, Trunk Bag

[Eliot Balogh]

Any interest in selling just the frameset +/- wheels ?

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:33 AM Davey Two Shoes 
wrote:

> I recognize this bike!
>
> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:42:51 PM UTC-5 jake...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Selling my 52 cm dark green Clem H. In good condition but has some
>> beausage (scratch on top tube, small chips around chainstay). I love this
>> bike, but I'm hoping to sell it to help finance a Platy. Pickup in NYC
>> preferred, but open to shipping. $1525.
>>
>> Highlights:
>> 650B x 55mm RH Umtanum Ridge Extralight tires (<150 miles)
>> Excellent condition black MKS king pedals and B17 carved Brooks saddle
>> 2x8 with friction shifting
>> Silver crankset
>> Can include VO constructeur rack, stock Kenda tires, single schwalbe
>> g-one tire
>> note: the wald basket works great but is bent
>>
>> Nitto Campee Rear Rack--$150
>> Arkel TailRider Trunk Bag--$60
>> Both for $200
>>
>> Google drive link
>> 
>>
>> Feel free to reach out with any questions!
>>
>> --Jake in NYC
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Re: [RBW] SunTour Rachet Bar Ends shifting a Modern RD - Need to Trim??

[Eliot Balogh]

While were on the subject. I have some Riv Silver 2 shifters. I can’t seem
to get the tension right. They’re either stiffer than I’d like or they
slip. New housing and cables. Any tips?

On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 8:23 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Scott has covered this completely so I'll just add this from my experience
> with various ratcheting style shifters: I've never noticed the specific
> number of clicks per cog, what I *have *noticed is the ratchet feature
> makes the "I have to move the lever this much to get a clean shift" action
> easier to nail. I can't explain why it helps me, but I always had better
> luck with them than pure friction levers.
>
>
> On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 6:43:17 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>
>> John:
>>
>> I'll attempt to add to the valuable information Dave and Nick have
>> shared...
>>
>> When thinking about compatibility with shifters, RDs, and cassettes; keep
>> in mind the RD does whatever the shifter (index, ratchet, or friction)
>> tells it to do, hence the "dummy" comment. So you can for the most part
>> eliminate the RD from your compatibility question.
>>
>> Your Shimano 8 speed shifter works with your Shimano 7 speed cassette
>> because the "indexing" in the shifter is matched with the spacing between
>> the cassette cogs; hence one click, one shift. So when you click a shift
>> the shifter pulls the cable an amount that causes the RD to move (inboard
>> or outboard) an amount equivalent to the distance between the cogs of the
>> cassette. On a Shimano 8 speed cassette the distance between cogs is 4.8
>> mm, so each time you shift with a Shimano 8 speed indexed shifter the RD is
>> going to move 4.8 mm inboard or outboard. Shimano 9 speed cassettes have
>> the cogs spaced 4.34 mm apart. You can see the problem if you were to use,
>> for example, a Shimano 9 speed indexed shifter with an 8 speed cassette
>> (one shift would move RD 4.34 mm, not the needed 4.8 mm between 8 speed
>> cassette cogs) Your 8 speed shifter works on the 7 speed cassette because a
>> limit screw on the RD doesn't allow it to move the full distance into the
>> 8th position and the distance between cogs on a 7 speed cassette are the
>> same as 8 speed: 4.8 mm. Indexing (space between cogs) is the same between
>> Shimano 7 and 8 speed, so they play well together. If you were to use a
>> cassette from a different manufacturer in which the distance between cogs
>> was different from that of a Shimano cassette, then you'd likely run into a
>> compatibility issue with your 8 speed shifter/non-Shimano cassette
>> (assuming cog spacing was different from an 8 speed Shimano cassette).
>>
>> One can almost look at a friction shifter as allowing infinite
>> adjustment. Riders that are good with them almost develop an indexing in
>> their head/hand feel then fine tune after a shift. No indexing to a
>> friction shifter so you can run a friction shifter with any make/speed
>> cassette. Just have to find the sweet spot yourself.
>>
>> The ratchets move the shift cable in little bits (and the RD in little
>> bits) I believe (I've never ran them. Someone, please, correct me if I'm
>> wrong). So each click moves the shift cable a certain amount that in turn
>> moves the RD a certain amount. You'd have to do some research to find out
>> how much the RD moves with each click of your 1975s and then do some math.
>> You know, at least with your Shimano 7 speed cassette, the cogs are spaced
>> 4.8 mm apart. How much does the 1975 shifter move the RD each click? For
>> perfect shifting on the 7 speed (or 8) cassette, the clicks (one, two, or
>> three)/RD movement would have to add up to intervals of 4.8 mm. I doubt
>> that's going to be the case, but fortunately there's a little wiggle room
>> short of perfect that will obtain satisfactory shifting. At least there is
>> more wiggle room with 4.8 mm spacing than there is with 4.34 mm (Shimano 9
>> speed casette).
>> I guess one could look at ratchet shifting as being somewhere between
>> indexing (one click, one shift) and friction (infinite adjustment) shifting.
>>
>> Your research task: find out how much RD moves with each ratchet of your
>> 1975s. Then you'll be able to better assess compatibility with different
>> cassettes of any maker/speed, as long as you get the respective cog
>> spacing. For the compatibility issue you are inquiring about, the RD isn't
>> really part of the puzzle, so eliminate it.
>>
>> Sheldon Brown's website has that level of trivia: cog spacing, indexing
>> values. And hopefully it has ratcheting values. You might find your answer
>> there.
>>
>> Good luck! And, please, report back!
>>
>> Scott in Big Sky Country
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 05:21:38 PM MST, 'John Hawrylak' via RBW
>> Owners Bunch  wrote:
>>
>>
>> IF I use my 1975 Suntour Bar End Ratcheted shifters with a modern Shimano
>> RD (Deroe M531) and a Shimano 7 speed HG cassette, and modern Shimano
>> shifter cables/housings,  WILL the RD shift each gear going