[RBW] Re: Snowy s24o, sleeping under the full moon

[hsmitham]

Mark,

You're intrepid. I was in a conversation yesterday with a fellow and he was 
remarking how cold it was! I exclaimed it wasn't that cold, he said when he 
leaves for work it's in the 40's and I mentioned that I knew of a guy who 
winter bike camps in 15ºF. I thought you'd done this same type of thing in 
-4ºF? Anyway 40's here in SoCal is cold but not really that back especially 
when the high is in the mid 60's.

I love your snowy camping scenes and description. Keep the adventures 
coming.

Best Regards,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos

[hsmitham]

Hi Patrick,

I just went through your images and I have to remark, that is a sweet 
looking machine or better stated a fine steed indeed. The color is 
gorgeous. Very good build.

On handle bars, I've never felt comfortable with that type of bar almost 
too upright for me. But one's comfort is so subjective. For an upright bar 
the Albatross are still my favorite, but I've since gone back to a drop bar 
on my Hilsen. Actually a modified drop the Soma Portola's. They took a bit 
of adjustment but now feel wonderful, though if I was designing a new bar 
I'd have the ramps shorter. Probably one of the Salsa bars is already like 
that but I didn't want to deal with the whole 31.8 clamp deal. I've heard 
that "Riv" and Nitto are working on a new flared drop bar but that's just a 
rumor that I can't substantiate.

Anyway, this is about your Joe Appaloosa not my handle bar preference. I 
love it! I love the downtube script. Doesn't it have longer chainstays? How 
does the ride feel compared to other bikes? 

A new bike day is something to savor so enjoy in good health and many great 
miles.

Best Regards,

~Hugh 

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 12:30:50 PM UTC-8, Patrick D Kelly wrote:
>
> Went for a(nother) test ride on the Joe yesterday. It rained a bit, but 
> then the sun came out. Too bad I had to return it.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlatphrog/sets/72157663735364022
>

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[RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos

[hsmitham]

Sorry, should have read the OP better. Test ride Duh.

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 12:30:50 PM UTC-8, Patrick D Kelly wrote:
>
> Went for a(nother) test ride on the Joe yesterday. It rained a bit, but 
> then the sun came out. Too bad I had to return it.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlatphrog/sets/72157663735364022
>

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[RBW] Re: Seeking Alejandro

[hsmitham]

Hi Tom,

I was at the grocery store the other day and witnessed three young (by my 
standards) folks on bikes obviously homeless, two women and man. I felt so 
sad for them! I feel so blessed to have come from a caring loving family, 
gainfully employed with a roof over my head. I heard recently that Los 
Angeles tops out as having the greatest number of homeless in the country 
as of November of 2015 according to this LA Times 

 
article. I don't have the answer it's a tough one. When I think about the 
solution, give them tiny houses I figure human nature is to say NIMBY and 
on the other side of the fence you're just creating Getto's! There are 
those homeless that don't want to be fenced in and refuse to conform and 
then those that are mentally ill and realistically need to be in some form 
of treatment. 

I think it's admirable that you and your neighbors go out and help 
Alejandro Tom. 

I think there is an underlying problem in our country that I think gets 
swept under the proverbial rug. Homelessness is just the manifestation of 
that underlying issue. 

Thanks for posting about Alejandro Tom and I hope and pray he's okay.

Best regards,

~Hugh 

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 9:37:59 PM UTC-8, Tom Virgil wrote:
>
> I was out on a mission today, seeking a homeless man in our "outback", 
> such as it is, here, and ran into this situation.
>
> Alejandro Land 
>
> They are geese, right?  What kind of geese might they be?  They seem to be 
> staying here for a week or so on their journey.
>
> I have not found Alejandro, yet, but am following signs.  There was 
> evidence of a recent fire on makeshift hearth within range of the debris 
> area images and tracks of his oh so overladen cart.  I will be out tomorrow 
> on Sam Hillborne seeking further.
>
> There is a deep story to this (I think I have related it to Hugh).  In 
> brief, Alejandro is a homeless man who has slipped through the cracks of 
> both Mexican (in his native country) and US social services (here).  He 
> lives out in the brush with a cart laden an awesome load of God knows what 
> that is important to him.  Little or no English.  Diminished Spanish, 
> although that is his native language.  Had he grown up here, I am sure 
> there would be a label for him.  He has a mission every day to haul the 
> cart several miles to a Ralph's market and then back again to the boonies. 
>  Alejandro is defiant about not giving up his life choices.  People in the 
> hood try to minister to him and get him into better circumstances, but that 
> is not for him.  l am fortunate to live in what might be called "Pill 
> Hill", and our DM (Doctor of Medicine) neighbors do the same as I, go out, 
> find him, and treat him when necessary.
>
> Sorry, no bike images (owe you all, Sam is just so coooL).  Got 
> distracted by where Sam Hillborne takes me and has me doing.
>
>
>
> ~Tom
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 56cm 2003 Rivendell Atlantis.

[hsmitham]

Tim,

Thanks! Are you speaking of the Dead sticker on the seat tube? If so I wish 
it was.

~Hugh

On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 8:10:19 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
>
> Wow! That is a fantastic bike! I love the color. Also, is the Steal Your 
> Face under the clear coat? I've been thinking hard about swapping out the 
> Hunq for an Atlantis but I need a 59 or 61cm. What a great build though.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 57cm Bleriot $1,500 + Shipping

[hsmitham]

It's a beauty! A good price and fine steed.

~Hugh

On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 7:44:59 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> As promised, here is my 57CM Bleriot. $1,500 almost exactly as shown (see 
> below), plus $125 shipping to the CONUS. 
>
> Lots of photos here:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/albums/72157663740551841 
>
> I purchased this bike about a year ago and set it up for randonneuring, 
> planning to ride it on PBP. After that, an Alex Singer came into my life, 
> and this bike didn’t get ridden much any more. 
>
> Monsieur Bleriot is in excellent condition. One or two very minor chips 
> that have been carefully repaired with the “official” blue nail polish. 
> Wheels are true and round, tires are very good.
>
> A few details—see the photos for more:
>
> —57cm size
> —Shimano Deore drivetrain
> —Velo Orange Grand Cru crankset 48/34, 175mm arms (picked because it looks 
> like an old-school Stronglight)
> —Brooks B68 saddle
> —Nitto Noodle bars; Nitto stem
> —Dia Compe center pull brakes with Kool Stop salmon pads
> —Velo Orange two-bolt seat post
> —Grand Bois 650Bx42 tires
> —Velocity rims: Dyad read, Synergy front
> —Shimano Deore LX dyno hub
> —Schmidt Edeluxe headlight
> —Sinewave USB port to recharge on the fly
> —Longboard fenders, with PDW taillight and added reflective tape
> —Velo Orange “Constructeur” rear rack with vintage reflector
> —Velo Orange retro bottle cages
> —Front Sackville bag with Nitto rack
> —Chrome Silca pump
> —“Official” Bleriot blue nail polish
> —Topeak mount for GPS, camera, computer, etc. (gets cameras and clip-on 
> headlights above the front bag)
> —Japanese-made, stem-mounted bell
>
> Also includes a spare, non-dyno front wheel to match the rear (LX hub, 
> Velocity Dyad rim).
>
> *Not* included are:
>
> —Pedals
> —PBP medallion on the seatpost
> —Magnic Light taillight (shown attached to the rear brake on the drive 
> side)
>
> Available for additional cost:
>
> —One brand-new Grand Bois tire, NIP: Add $50
>
> If you don’t want some of the items, they can be deleted:
>
> —Handlebar bag and Nitto rack: Delete $125
> —Saddle: Delete $50
> —Spare front wheel: Delete $75
> —Anything else: Let me know and let’s make a deal
>
> I can ship the bike, but local pickup in the Sacramento region is 
> preferred.
>
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT Vintage MTB rehab project.

[hsmitham]

Thanks Joe,

You're a kind man.

~Hugh

On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> "Moron" is a little strong, you were trying to describe cranks you weren't 
> looking at. One time I posted, and answered questions about, a Paul hub for 
> sale. A potential buyer kindly pointed out that the pictured hub - which 
> was sitting right in front of me - was a Surly. Doh!
>
> Make sure you get 9- or 10-speed rings if you're going to use a 10 chain 
> with those cranks.
>

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[RBW] FS 56cm 2003 Rivendell Atlantis.

[hsmitham]

*2003 Rivendell Atlantis 56cm *

 

Purchased early 2014 and repainted by Allan Wanta.  Beautiful understated 
frame color. It’s always been garaged. It has been used so does have 
scratches in the paint which I touched up with model paint. I’ve tried to 
show all of the scratches in the pictures. They actually look worse in the 
pictures than in reality. The seat tube cluster was created by the frame 
pump. The one and only chain suck was enough to take the largest amount of 
paint off (touched up) but can’t be seen as the crank hides it. The drive 
train is in great shape with lots of life left. The serial number isn’t 
visible on the bottom bracket in the pictures due to thicker paint. The 
Serial # AT0502 is there. Since Rivendell doesn’t maintain a serial # page 
these days it seems moot. 

On shipping you pay shipping and insurance in the continental U.S.  I’ll do 
my best Rivendell packing and find you the least expensive shipping cost I 
can find but usually it’s around $150.00. I’d prefer a check I don’t mind 
waiting. My preference is to sell this as a complete bike. If  you’re 
looking for just a F/F let me know and if it doesn’t sell complete I may 
consider selling just the F/F. 


*Images 
*


*Build:*

· Shimano XT Front & Rear Derailleur’s.

· Sugino XD600 Crankset 170mm length (24, 34, 46)

· MKS Grip King Pedals (Silver)

· Phil Wood Bottom Bracket 113mm (adjustable)

· Connex/Wipperman Silver 9 speed chain & quick connect link.

· Tange Needle bearing Headset.

· Nitto Tallux 10cm stem 225mm quill.

· Nitto Albatross Bars (Aluminum) W/ Miesha Cork Grips 

· Shimano MTB brake levers.

· Paul touring Cantilever brakes & Kool-Stop Supra 2 two tone pads.

· Shimano Dura Ace 9 speed bar end shifters.

· Shimano (HG-61) 9 speed cassette 12-36

· Nitto S65 Crystal Fellows Seat Post 27.2mm X 250mm long


*Wheels:*

· Front   Mavic 220 UB Control XT Hub, WTB All Terrain tire & tubes.

· Rear   Mavic 220 UB Control XT Hub, WTB All Terrain tire & tubes.


*Price excluding Brooks’s saddle $2400.00 shipping not included.*

 

*Alt Wheels package:*

· Front: DT Swiss XR425 rims 32 holes(21mm width/16.4mm internal 
width, 20mm rim depth), DT Swiss Dbl butted spokes & brass nipples, laced 
to a Son Delux Generator hub,  Schwalbe Thunder Burt snake skin 26 x 2.1

· Rear:  DT Swiss XR425 rims 32 hole, (21mm width/16.4mm internal 
width, 20mm rim depth) laced to a Shimano XT (Black) Shimano/Sram cassette 
body,  DT Swiss Dbl butted spokes & brass nipples, Schwalbe Thunder Burt 
snake skin 26x2.1


*Price excluding Brooks’s saddle $2700.00 shipping not included.*

 

If you have any questions you can email me privately and I’ll do my best to 
get you an answer. If you want additional pictures let me know.

Best,

 

~Hugh

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[RBW] An Under Biking Experience.

[hsmitham]

Another ride report. Here 

.

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: FS: tektro 559 brake pair + 1 extra

[hsmitham]

I have a used front I'd be happy to sell. 

~Hugh

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[RBW] OT Vintage MTB rehab project.

[hsmitham]

Hello Rivendellians,

I have a 1995 Salsa Ala Carte and I'd like to rehab it with a new drive and 
cockpit. It has the original Salsa chromoly stem 130mm and have considered 
throwing on a Ritchey 30º rise 80mm stem & straight MTB bar for more 
comfort. The current setup I'm pretty stretched out.The old rapid fire 
shifters just don't work, I've tried lot's of things to get the shifter 
working (advice from LBS) but it seems easier to just buy new one's. 

The drive is 8 speed and has a Cook Bros Crank *(they went out of business 
in the early 2000's) which has a 4 bolt spider. I measured the inner bolts 
distance between adjacent bolts and determined it was a 58mm BCD ring, I 
also measured the outside bolts between adjacent bolts and figure it's a 
94mm BCD ring. I used this chart which seemed the only one that had my 
measurements, 34mm & 55mm respectively. It seems MTB's with all the new 
tech have left these BCD's behind.

http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/704206-chainring-bcd-chart.html

I went to the Peter White page and found this page 
 http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/chainrings.asp 

The TA Carmina rings seem like the right ones? But man are they expensive!

Is the bike worth keeping it somewhat period/vintage?  Have I measured this 
correctly? Are there other ring manufacturers making these ring sizes and 
importantly less expensive. I've seen Vuelta and Real rings but just don't 
know whether their quality rings?

I could just purchase a SLX 10 speed group for $230 and be done with it. 

*I heard Cook Bros came back in 2010 but with limited offerings but my 
search has been fruitless in terms of info regarding BCD ring sizes.

So thanks in advance for any wisdom the group can dispense. 

~Hugh
  Los Angeles, CA



 

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[RBW] Re: FS: "Biketinkers Union" patches

[hsmitham]

And done! Thanks Phillip for a great idea and patch.

On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:22:14 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> I'm making my first "Biketinker" patches, with Walter at Falls Creek 
> Outfitters. He's going to tweak that R, and they'll be ready to ship in a 
> couple weeks. If you'd like to get a couple, they're $5 each over on my 
> Etsy shop. 
>
> These first ones are a Sheldon tribute, since he started a lot more people 
> than me down the path of wrenching on bikes, make mistakes, and sometimes 
> create new things. He was a true originator, and even today, if you need 
> esoteric bike information, "Ask And Sheldon Has The Answer." 
>  
>
> https://www.etsy.com/listing/264180515/325-biketinkers-union-patch-pre-order
>
>
> 
>
> Many thanks!
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: A Mount Tam Experience.

[hsmitham]

Truly was. And hopefully soon.

~Hugh

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 1:49:07 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> One of the best weekends, ever! Such a nice event she hosted. Thanks for 
> doing the write up, it captured the events perfectly!
>
> Hopefully we can do something like that in the future!!!
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 11:57:44 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Glad you liked it Dennis.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 11:45:17 AM UTC-8, Dennis Hogan wrote:
>>>
>>> Awesome recap - I have viewed the pics in previous posts but if anyone 
>>> hasn't, they are not to be missed.
>>> Dennis in PDX
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 10:05:56 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This happened.
>>>>
>>>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>>>
>>>> Tail Winds,
>>>>
>>>> ~Hugh
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Yeah I'm on a roll! It must be winter.

[hsmitham]

Thanks dude. Bummer you missed by one. As you say there's always this October.  
Get yer coffeneuring game going buddy.

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[RBW] Re: A Mount Tam Experience.

[hsmitham]

Glad you liked it Dennis.

~Hugh

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 11:45:17 AM UTC-8, Dennis Hogan wrote:
>
> Awesome recap - I have viewed the pics in previous posts but if anyone 
> hasn't, they are not to be missed.
> Dennis in PDX
>
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 10:05:56 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> This happened.
>>
>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>

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[RBW] Yeah I'm on a roll! It must be winter.

[hsmitham]

Another patch earned. Feels like my Boy Scouts days.

Here .

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] A Mount Tam Experience.

[hsmitham]

This happened.

http://velocipeedemusings.com/

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Let's see the best of your 2015

[hsmitham]

Hi Group,

I don't think I've seen a post on the best of your images from 2015. So 
let's see your culled images.

Sorry to hear Deacon Patrick closed his Flickr account because of certain 
tootsie fetishes. 

Here's my submission 
.

And here's hoping 2016 exceeds 2015.

Tail Winds,

Hugh
Los Angeles, CA

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[RBW] Re: Ordered another Riv

[hsmitham]

And the original Stumpjumper was a LOT like the Ritchey/Padgett bikes. Just 
saying.

~Hugh

On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 9:06:01 PM UTC-8, Utah wrote:
>
> I think the Appaloosa is A LOT like the old Stumpjumpers.  The really old 
> stumpies LONG chain stays back in the early days.  I think that anyone that 
> has an upright bar on an Atlantis would be really comfortable on the 
> appaloosa due to the longer stays.  Love the colors and the fork crown!
>
> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 12:17:53 AM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:
>>
>> Due to the inescapable need for my fire horse wife to have a 
>> "horse-themed" bike, as well as the awesome blue color fitting into her 
>> preferences, I ordered her a 51cm Appaloosa today.  She still says her 
>> favorite bike is the '91 Stumpjumper Pro, so this will be like a more 
>> stately steed that can take us on many an adventure in the future. 
>>
>> Can't wait...
>>
>> p.s. - I also noticed a nearly hidden reference to a forthcoming "Clem Pt 
>> 2" which is a TANDEM CLEM!!! on the Riv email that went out today...
>>
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[RBW] Re: Hilsen or Atlantis

[hsmitham]

Erik,

I have both a 56cm Atlantis and 58cm Hilsen. Hit me up off list and we can 
discuss the merits of both.

My Hilsen: 

https://flic.kr/p/CxdevA

My Atlantis :

https://flic.kr/p/v3AQqv

Tail Winds, 

~Hugh

On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 3:36:40 PM UTC-8, erik balsbaugh wrote:
> Hello group! 
> 
> I recently had my baby, a rivendell Atlantis stolen out of my back yard. I 
> rode this baby on an 8k mile tour around the country, but as of late had used 
> the bike mainly as a commuter and a bike to haul my son around in a trailer. 
> 
> On the bright side, insurance covered some of the costs, and my wife for 
> Christmas got me a gift card to cover the rest to replace it. But am now 
> hemming on getting another Atlantis and thinking that an AHH may be the best 
> choice as I am looking to getting into Brevets, in addition to commuting to 
> work and occasionally dragging the kiddos to school in a trailer. 
> 
> Could the homer handle all of the above? I weigh around 180, and with a PBH 
> of 87.5 I'd probably be on the 59 AHH. Also holding out hope that I'll run 
> into the thief somewhere in Cambridge MA and through a valiant struggle get 
> my bike back (wont happen). But would like to have a more roadies bike since 
> there ain't too many fire roads in the greater Boston area.

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[RBW] Re: Christmas Clementine

[hsmitham]

As always a fantastic build! I alway enjoy your builds. Merry Christmas and 
Happy New Year!

~Hugh

On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 9:47:17 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
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> A really great part of Christmas this year for me was building up a 
> Clementine with my son as a gift for his girlfriend.  He's always been 
> interested in bikes, and more so since he rode on the Bobby Birmingham-led 
> Riv Rally East rides a few years back, riding a couple of loaner Rivs.  I 
> gave him my SimpleOne a couple of years ago, and he rides it all over 
> Washington, D.C.  Anyway, he wanted to build a bike for his g/f, and he was 
> very interested in learning how to do it himself, with the result that we 
> got to spend some real quality time together doing something fun over the 
> holiday week.  Pics of the result are below.  It's a 52cm frame, Nitto 
> Bullmoose Bosco handlebars, VO grips, Paul levers and Moto-lite brakes, 
> some kind of thumb shifter for the 1 X 8 drive train, Stronglight 49D crank 
> and Bespoke Chainrings "Solida Cats" chainring, VO Sabot pedals, SOMA 
> Edison taillight and Torpedo battery headlight, Tanaka ivory painted alloy 
> fenders, red Hetres, a slightly used honey B-17, and a House of Talents 
> basket (which I strongly recommend – link here:  
> http://houseoftalents.com/ ).  This is an absolutely wonderful bike – 
> rides like a dream.  I think Grant hit it out of the park with this one.
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[RBW] Re: Do you ever find yourself tempted by brifters?

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Late to the party as is my penchant.

Back in 2012 I drank the Kool-aid and sold my carbon race bike. I went with 
a Hilsen outfitted with noodle drop bars and the fancy TRP drilled brake 
levers. At around the same time I acquired a 1984 Trek 660 from list member 
Chris down Sanger, Texas way. It hung in my rafters for two years. I think 
I had the notion to have a go faster bike, but I'm old and my memory isn't 
what it used to be. Anyway, I'm glad that past me bought the frame set. In 
the preceding  years I've built up an Atlantis outfitted with BE's and 
Albatross bars. Then early this year a 10 speed  Campy Veloce group 
complete with wheel set fell into my lap and the Trek was reborn with 
modern DCL, brifters (whatever the hell you want to call them!) and I fell 
in love with the ergo nature of this config. The more I rode the more I 
thought how great these would be in off road scenarios. So the Hilsen is 
being reimagined.  

Some take-aways, the TRP brake levers are nice just not as nice as the 
campy levers, which feel so damn natural. Bar ends are no nonsense and work 
just fine and on a world tour most likely what I'd roll with. But that's 
not happening anytime soon. So if I have a mechanical I figure I can work 
something out and limp to a bike store. I still love drop bars and combined 
with brifters with all the controls at my fingertips it's a winner for me. 
Still looking for the best dirt drop handlebar to mate up with my new 
Hilsen config. I like Shimano but I think campy nailed it, and it's too 
early to say anything about the Sram setup but so far so good. 

My experience with bike's is if your wallet allows it try it! 

I like this from Scott C. 

"Variety is good, keeps your mind from following ruts".

Tail Winds,

~Hugh
 

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[RBW] Re: Ch-ch-ch-changes... in 2016

[hsmitham]

Yes.

On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 5:24:54 AM UTC-8, Garth wrote:
>
>
>"Just trust us, we know what's best for you" .Sounds familiar , huh 
> ?  Ahahahahaahah .   Isn't it funny how "best" is always changing , todays 
> best is tomorrow's relagation to also-ran.  This is no specific to anyone 
> in particular , really humanity itself .  Ever fickle, undecided. Change is 
> applauded one day and cursed the next. 
>
>Just who can you trust , who truly knows "best" ?   H , who ever 
> said there is a best, worst, good, bad, etc. etc. ?  Take away the polarity 
> and what do you have ?  Perfect stillness, which contains All and is 
> subject to none. 
>
>   Yes.  . . . it is all-ways a good day to Ride with a wondrous , 
> inexplicable smile !
>

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[RBW] Re: Prayers for all effected by violence

[hsmitham]

Yes, let's pray for all involved in these senseless horrors. 

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 6:54:00 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I often pray the rosary as I ride, and especially now for all effected by 
> violence. Paris, Colorado Springs, Redlands/San Bernardino. May all hearts 
> turn to peace beyond all understanding. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
> www.OurHolyConception.org 
>
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[RBW] ISO Trek Frame & Fork.

[hsmitham]

Hi Folks,

I'm searching for a mid 80's Trek frame & fork. This is for a friend who has a 
82 pbh but is on the overall short stature. I'm  thinking something in the 52 
to 54 cm size. Ideally a tour model but a race bike would work too.

There's no hurry to find one but I thought if there's a decent price out there 
then great.

Message me off list. 

Tail Winds, 

~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Waterford Rivendell Road Standard/Custom

[hsmitham]

That's really cool Erl. Did you notice any pedal strike tendencies with the 
lower BB height? I figure it's a non issue with road riding.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 7:28:36 AM UTC-8, WETH wrote:
>
> My frame is similar to Tim's.  Attached photo shows clearance under rear 
> brake bridge with a 700 x 28 Rolly Polly.  Following Tim's lead, I too 
> successfully converted to a 650b. 
>
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 8:24:08 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: 
> > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:50 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > Tim Gavin wrote: Tire clearance doesn't seem to be as standard as you 
> think. 
> > 
> > This may be true, but I find it difficult to believe that the specs 
> would be off by as much as 7mm. Again, I suspect the catalog refers to a 
> different model year than this bicycle. I could be wrong though--I don't 
> seem to be right as often as I think;^) 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Fully lugged wrote: Tire size is always a function of available brakes. 
> > 
> > I don't think there were many years in which a sidepull of one brand or 
> another was not produced that could clear a 35mm tire. (Sorry about the 
> awkward construction, need coffee.) 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I understand that Grant always tried to max out the clearance available 
> of short-reach brakes. Still, the fact remains that my Riv Road Standard 
> won't clear 700 x 29 (actual measurement, not manufacturer's size) without 
> rubbing on the fork crown and brake bridge. 
> > 
> > 
> > (lousy picture but it shows the limited clearance.  700 x 28 (actual 
> measurement) Kenda Qwest shown) 
> > 
> > ​ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I purchased my Riv used, so I don't know the circumstances of its 
> creation.  It's a Waterford, July '97 build.  Maybe they did a Road 
> Standard with semi-custom geometry? 
> > 
> > 
> > I thank the Reader articles on 650b conversion for helping me fit fatter 
> tires (with 650b) and enjoy my Riv much more.  I have another 90s lugged 
> steel road bike (Giordana XL-Eco) that can't even fit a 700 x 28 (actual) 
> tire, and the skinny tires limit my enjoyment of it.  I'm a big guy and I 
> like gravel and dirt, so I vastly prefer a wider tire. 
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers, 
> > 
> > Tim

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Re: [RBW] Hope You Heal Soon

[hsmitham]

The other day on my usual ride, as always I cross the road and head in the 
opposite direction of traffic briefly making a quick left onto a dirt path. 
On this occasion a fellow in a car was looking down while driving and 
veered off the road and was headed straight for me, I was just about to 
bail when his head popped back up and he quickly made it back on the road! 
Point is there's a lot of distracted driving and cyclists will undoubtedly 
lose in any collision. Stay vigilant out there folks.

I'm just glad that this accident didn't end in a tragic way. I hope Jan has 
a speedy recovery and no lasting long term effects from these injuries.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh  

On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 3:34:30 PM UTC-8, truegolden wrote:
>
> https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/11/21/i-was-lucky-but-still/
>  
> I did not see this posted here today but saw it on the ibob list.
> Apologies if it was posted and this is a duplicate.
>  
> Adding my prayers for healing and strength to bear up during the process 
> for Jan as well as his family
> during the holidays.
>  
> Paul in Dallas
>  
>  
>  
>  
>

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[RBW] The healing power of the bicycle a Rivendell story.

[hsmitham]

Yep here 

 
it is.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: Well, it finally happened

[hsmitham]

Mark it seems like you're a candidate for a plump tire ride 26x4/5??

Enjoy your Winter Wonderland while I sweat it out. 

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 9:19:29 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> I woke up this morning to a fresh layer of the white stuff. November 19th 
> is really late for snow here, so it's not very surprising. I still had the 
> Compass Barlow Pass tires with fenders on my Atlantis, which were not going 
> to cut it on the fresh snow and ice. I scrambled to change to some 2.1 
> Thunder Burts and no fenders before work. These were brand new Thunder 
> Burts, as I've been using 2.25's all summer. I've rubbed the paint clean 
> off the frame and had the wheels grind to a halt a few times because of the 
> marginal clearance. The 2.1's have quite a lot of room all around and will 
> be a great trail riding tire I think. 
>
> Anyway, I rode in to work today. The first snow is always absurd. All the 
> drivers forget how to drive in snow, and being anywhere near a cyclist 
> causes absolute panic. Thankfully I made it in safely. It was even kinda 
> fun... :)
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: It was a nice day for...

[hsmitham]

I love it!

Out here in the land of drought I'm like a cat and freak out when it rains 
these days. What the hell is this stuff falling from the skies?? Usually 
John, I can take a day off the bike and merely wait a day for that unusual 
meteorological event to pass. This past Summer I was on tour up on 
Vancouver Island with a buddy from Portland. We had some rain and I was 
running around figuratively battening down my hatches and he was like 
looking at me like I was a freak! Well from his perspective I suppose I was 
as he just threw on his rain jacket and just rode. I had brought only a 
light windbreaker (I was weight pack conscious) so after riding about 15 
miles my entire chest was soaked. We stopped into a local coffee shop in 
Duncan B.C. to wait the storm out, while drinking my coffee the barista 
offered to throw my wet clothes into their dryer in back. Life is 
surprising and good. 

In another life I lived in Northern California and well it does rain there, 
I recall the sweet satisfaction of being out in the rain for hours and 
coming into the warmth of the home with a roaring fire and hot chocolate.
 
John where do you live for context?

And I really liked the format of gear/purpose and function.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] LARCC

[hsmitham]

Hey Rivsters,

Here's a new video  that Russ & Laura of The 
Path Less Pedaled just posted. Gives some perspective on another aspect of 
the LA bike scene.

LA River Camp Coffee.

Enjoy.



Tail Winds,

~Hugh


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[RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring ride.

[hsmitham]

Strange Mike your comment never made it to my email?

I'm resisting the impulse :^)

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring ride.

[hsmitham]

Okay knocked off a couple more. Here's the scoop 
<http://velocipeedemusings.com/2015/11/08/make-that-a-double-coffeeneuring-weekend/>
.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 1:13:31 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Hot off the presses.
>
> Here 
> <http://velocipeedemusings.com/2015/10/31/strickly-a-skinny-tire-coffeeneuring-challenge-ride/>
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
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[RBW] Re: Low Trail Hilsen?

[hsmitham]

+1 on the curious side.

On Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 6:44:24 AM UTC-8, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> I was curious if anyone on the list had ever replaced the stock AHH fork 
> with a lower trail fork to change the handling? If you have, what was your 
> experience?  I have a 61cm AHH and love it as is, no changes planned. 
> Having read lots about trail/handling etc, I was wondering what the effect, 
> if any, it would have on the AHH frame? Inquiring minds want to know and 
> all that
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[RBW] Need a Carradice leather strap.

[hsmitham]

I suppose I could email Carradice but thought someone on this group might have 
a spare lying around. If you have one I need one for my Camper. Please contact 
me off list and we can work out the details. And yeah in a pinch I'll use 
something else.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: Richard Sachs

[hsmitham]

Nice and enjoyable. A craftsman indeed. 

$5000 and not taking on any new commissions, but back in the shop.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 9:50:04 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Came across this, it's pretty good. Page down to go through it: 
> https://slate.adobe.com/cp/ts5O3/
>
> -- 
> Cheers,
> David
>
> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
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[RBW] Re: Tail wind, head wind

[hsmitham]

Lol's yeah I've had the same experience deceiving my self into thinking I'd 
improved in my fitness level only to be crushed with the realization that it 
had been a tail wind and not me. I must say having a strong tail wind is 
magical for that fleet flying feeling. I've been looking at head winds these 
days as my resistance training partner. It's all good. 

I suppose I'll weigh in with my preference. I'll take the tail wind going out.

Tail Winds, :^)

~Hugh


On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 11:21:01 AM UTC-7, JohnS wrote:
> Yesterday I got out for a really nice ride of about 38 miles. The day had an 
> overcast sky with temps around 50, which made for a pleasant if not cool 
> ride. We're in the middle of fall here in eastern PA with all the trees in 
> various shades of oranges, reds, yellows and browns. My ride started out very 
> well. I felt great and was making it up hills in the cruising gear on the 
> Quickbeam. I thought that I must be getting in better shape since some of the 
> hills seamed easier than they had been earlier in the season. That all 
> changed when I got to the mid point of the ride and turn east onto Lyon 
> Valley road into a head wind. Ugh! No wonder why the hills were easier, I had 
> a tail wind the whole way up to that point and the rest of the ride would 
> more or less be into a head wind. I don't know which is worse, to ride into a 
> head with the hope that I'll have a tail wind for the ride home or finding 
> out that my sudden improvement in performance was only due to a gentle push 
> from behind by a tail wind. 
>  
> Hope you're enjoying the fall weather for riding as well,
> JohnS

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[RBW] Re: WATERTON CANYON REOPENED

[hsmitham]

Jon,

Great images. I love the big horn sheep! And those roads look fantastic. Alas 
were still in the mid 80's here in Los Angeles but we have some scattered rain 
in our near future. Wow I just can't imagine riding in 45F! That's so far off 
from our temp range. Thanks for sharing and don't feed those bears :)

Tail Winds, 

~Hugh





On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 12:46:55 PM UTC-7, Jon Dukeman in the foothills 
of Colorado wrote:
> Waterton Canyon had been closed for a couple of months due to bear 
> activity..well not because of the bears but because the idots hiking up there 
> were taking selfies with the bears and getting a bit too close and the bears 
> were getting aggressive chasing a cyclist out -a- there.
> My friend Terry on his Bridgestone MB-6 and I on my Sam Hillborne ventured 
> out the first day it reopened to the public, in the rain, and 45' temps to 
> check it out. A bit too late to see the fall colors but we weren't 
> disappointed.
> We ran into a couple of Cheviots
> 
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/126595234@N07/albums/72157660560309461

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring ride.

[hsmitham]

Hot off the presses.

Here 


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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[hsmitham]

Drew,

That is a sick build and mean in a totally rad way!! Keep that baby close 
at hand. Such eye candy.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 6:21:47 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
>
> i posted about a 30$ trek 870 frame/fork i found earlier this year HERE 
> .
>  
>  
>
> 
> boredom, and the fact that ive never been able to abide a true beater, 
> turned it into a project that was helped out by several people in the group 
> who supplied parts, so i figured i'd share how it turned out. 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
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[RBW] Coffee shop without walls.

[hsmitham]

On topic I guess. There's a Rivendell bike involved.

http://velocipeedemusings.com/2015/10/24/a-rambling-i-shall-go-a-coffeenuring-challenge-ride/

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[RBW] Re: Keven

[hsmitham]

I mean where do you begin? If you look up the definition of customer 
service there he is. He set the bar on knowledge, patience and sheer 
kindness. Even though he couldn't talk me out of a custom paint on my 
Hilsen, he surely talked me off a cliff a few times with his common sense 
approach. When the wife and I traveled to Riv Hq in 2012 he put us at ease. 
 When I heard Keven was leaving I had two competing emotions, complete and 
utter sadness and joy that he would be closer to his family. I know that 
whatever he touches in the next chapter of work will be golden because 
that's the sort of guy he is. For me Rivendell will never be the same and 
that shine above Riv Hq will be just a tad dimmer. All the best to you 
Keven.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 3:17:16 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote:
>
> Just read the newsletter, I see that Keven is moving on to different 
> pastures, just wanted to take a moment to publicly acknowledge that he is 
> one of the nicest people I have ever come across in my life, and played a 
> huge part in my uber-positive Riv experience, and I'll miss calling him to 
> ask about things like "why won't these cranks fit this bike?" and other 
> marginalia that most people are smart enough to figure out on their own.
>
> I'll send him a note personally, but thought it might be nice to have a 
> little public thing here to recognize his part in the great Riv world.  
>
> Go Kev Go!  
>

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[RBW] Re: Cross/knobby 650B tires

[hsmitham]

David,

Are you already running the Cazadero's? If yes what's your opinion of them and 
if your not running them, what would you have against them? Inquiring minds and 
such.

~Hugn



n Wednesday, October 21, 2015 at 2:53:42 PM UTC-7, David wrote:
> Wondering if the group has an opinion or preference on a 650B knobby tire 
> under 42mm and other than the Soma Cazadero.  Thanks for your time.  

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[RBW] My Rivendell Rodeo build

[hsmitham]

Nice build Bruce.

I've ridden the bike and it's quick, nimble and highly responsive. I also rode 
it in it's other iteration and it was fantastic,  though with the upright 
configuration the comfort level is extraordinary. No rules, just do what feels 
right.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: FS Acorn Rando Bag.

[hsmitham]

Sale Pending.

On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 9:02:26 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Just throwing it out there! I have used Acorn Green Rando bag. If'n yer 
> interested shoot me a private email. I'll send pictures on request.
>
> How about $100 shipped. That's for the lower 48. If you're in Alaska or 
> wherever we'll talk shipping numbers. 
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
>

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[RBW] Re: All arounder Handlebar recommendations GO!

[hsmitham]

Hey Drew,

I think I'm close to pulling the trigger on some Soma Portola drops for my 
Hilsen. Seems like a bar I'd like for all round mixed terrain. The Hilsen 
is in flux now that I have a go faster bike. Change is inevitable. 

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 7:45:35 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> I have a sam and a hunqapillar. sam had mustache bars, hunq had albatross. 
> Then the hunq got albastache and the sam got the old albatross bars because 
> I figured it was silly to have 2 bikes with similar bars. Long story short, 
> the albatross bars on the sam feel way too upright for my liking (and sam 
> is my "roadyish" bike). I'm aware of all the nitto/riv models, but what do 
> people like for an all around bar?
>
> Looking for a couple hand positions, not fully upright, faster feeling 
> bar, mostly road riding with a little dirt. Solo, all purpose/no purpose 
> rides. 
> I haven't ridden drops since a fixed gear bike got me into bikes (and away 
> from fixed gears). I'm not super excited about drops but am somewhat 
> curious about the low rise dirt drop style bars. What's out there that I 
> should be considering?
>

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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking Pikes Peak

[hsmitham]

Jealous of that amazing terrain you have out there! Beautiful pictures 
Patrick.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 2:48:52 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> All bikepacking trips are adventure. Toss in brain injury and they're all 
> on the edge adventure. This trip was made to avoid the construction noise 
> of the town puddle, just a few hundred yards from our home) from blowing up 
> my brain. Life is a gamble, and I both won and lost this round. I likely 
> would have done better staying here, as construction was less invasive and 
> much shorter than anticipated.
>
> Two minutes into the ride, riding out of Green Mountain Falls, I was run 
> off the road by a Century Link truck. I'd taken the lane because it's a 
> narrow two lane road. The oncoming car also had to stop and pull off the 
> road. That triggered my adrenaline and I dealt with the recovery from that 
> the whole trip. Because of the construction I persevered on, hoping to 
> recover quickly. I'm home after 4 days, and still recovering. Skull 
> shifting and splitting like tectonic plates, inability to produce body 
> heat, randomly firing muscles, foggy and lethargy. That's the losing part.
>
> The wondrous part is the gift of experiencing God's stunning, spectacular 
> creation. I also managed a wee day ride on the third day. The video is from 
> that (so no bags).
>
> Weather could not have been better. highs in the 50's, lows of 20˚F -- 
> fantastic for 10,000 feet in mid-October!
>
> Saw deer, elk prints, a peregrine falcon, and got in all seven of my 
> Coffeeaneering outings (if one extended outing with seven coffee's counts?)
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/albums/72157659948033825
> (video at the end of the album)
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>
>

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[RBW] FS Acorn Rando Bag.

[hsmitham]

Just throwing it out there! I have used Acorn Green Rando bag. If'n yer 
interested shoot me a private email. I'll send pictures on request.

How about $100 shipped. That's for the lower 48. If you're in Alaska or 
wherever we'll talk shipping numbers. 

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis completes the Pacific Coast

[hsmitham]

Doug,

I like the way you think about touring. I like long stretches but there's 
something to be said about pick a section and getting the most out it. Look 
forward to riding and chatting about yer adventures. Really good pictures!

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>
> Starting in 1988, I've been accumulating segments of the Pacific Coast, 
> sometimes little bits and other times large chunks.  It's such a beautiful 
> riding area that some segments have been done multiple times.  However, 
> owing to logistical issues, Brooking, OR, to Arcata, CA has eluded me.  
> Recently the opportunity came up to get there & do the missing bit (a 
> whopping 110 miles).  Besides, it was 100 in SoCal & my friends biking down 
> from Canada / WA / OR kept sending pictures wearing rain gear.  While 
> transporting north, it came to me that I've now ridden my Atlantis the 
> entire length of the Pacific Coast.  Pictures prove it happened:
>
> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/8120460
>
> dougP
>

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[RBW] Re: PB - A ride report.

[hsmitham]

Looks like fun was had by you three! And yes there seems to have been a 
disruption in the force. This "Rambler" thing and all :^)

Cheers,

~Hugh

On Saturday, October 10, 2015 at 4:13:14 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:
>
> No, not sammiges... this is about Preston, Brad & Jon.
>
> A week or so ago, Preston posted a thread looking into Riv riders in the 
> Denver area, and Jon of the Foothills quickly connected. A couple email 
> exchanges and we had a plan!
>
> Jon had his Hillborne all kitted out, and Preston was rolling on an 
> awesome diagatube Hunqapillar. My Atlantis is completely disassembled 
> considering sale, so I was on the Rambler loaded up with coffee gear. 
> Weather was exceptional...crisp air, blue skies, no wind...just perfect 
> fall Colorado!
>
> We met south west of Denver in the town of Littleton at the Carson Nature 
> Center which lies adjacent to the South Platte River and the Platte bike 
> trail. We jumped on the trail headed north for a bit where we diverted 
> eastbound on Lee Gulch Trail to hook up with the Highline Trail that Jon 
> and I had ridden a couple weeks ago. We planned to stop for coffeeoutside 
> at the same park pavilion we did last time, but would be approaching from 
> the opposite direction. After some brew and tasty biscuits crisped up on 
> Jon's new toaser gear, we packed up and continued north east on the 
> Highline zig zagging through Denver. We hopped onto surface streets to cut 
> a straight line west back over to the Platte Trail and back south to the 
> Nature Center. 
>
> I did manage to take a couple more pics this time.
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/22079549945/in/dateposted-public/
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/21458413443/in/dateposted-public/
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/21456693584/in/dateposted-public/
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/21456694694/in/dateposted-public/
>
> It is so nice to get out and ride with other people.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Check out the bike on the October 6th blug

[hsmitham]

Looks like a Rene Herse crank. By the look of the tires it's a 650b. It is 
a beautiful build and headed to SoCal. Anyboby? anybody out there want to 
lay claim to this beauty. Hope to see it out in the wilds.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 7:07:56 AM UTC-7, RJM wrote:
>
> There is a blug post from October 6th that shows a green custom and I just 
> have to say that it matches my idea of the perfect road bike. Dyno lite, 
> sweet crankset, higher bars, brooks saddle, bar end shifting, fenders, 
> looks like long-a chainstays and canti posts and possibly 650b, but I can't 
> tell. What a gorgeous custom build; somebody will be happy. 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Coffee outside.

[hsmitham]

Much thanks Cecily. Hope your knee is doing better and your Betty is 
getting some use?

Tail Winds,

~Hugh 

On Saturday, October 10, 2015 at 8:07:54 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> I really like your new blog theme, Hugh. And your writing too, of course. 
>
> On Friday, October 2, 2015 at 7:36:00 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Just a boring blog post about coffee. What ever!
>>
>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>

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[RBW] My recent Coffee Outside Escapades.

[hsmitham]

Hot off the presses!

http://velocipeedemusings.com/2015/10/11/grind-o-rama-s24ocoffeeneuring-challenge-ride-ii/

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: New fat 700 tires! 700x42 ultra light

[hsmitham]

So yes!! I've been thinking on these same lines. I like the Elephant NFE 
but have heard even with the low trail fork there's some shimmy. Never 
ridden one myself. I love the idea of a bike with a light tube set capable 
of running 42mm+  CX & slick tires. I suppose some are calling it a monster 
cross. Just thinking about my ultimate adventure bike.

~Hugh 

On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 10:15:51 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> If you forced me to order a Custom Rivendell today, I would order a 
> roadish Riv with Roadeo tubing (the lightest GP is comfortable with using 
> for me).  It would have a geometry almost identical to my 56cm Hillborne 
> (135mm rear, cantilever brakes, single TT, sloping TT).  It would have Riv 
> "batwing" fork tips and mid fork braze ons for an HAR or other lowrider 
> front rack.  It would have clearances for these tires (700x42) plus 
> fenders.  
>
> It would be like a canti-Roadeo for fat tires.  Or a roadish Legolas.
>
> On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 9:57:30 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> "They're in stock as of this morning. They'll pop up on the store in a 
>> day or two, but savvy purchasers can call ahead and reserve some before the 
>> rabble cotton on." - distributed via Merry Sales exclusively for the time 
>> being. So visit your LBS and get them to call their Merry rep and you 
>> shoiuld be able to order them now. 
>>
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[hsmitham]

I love my Atlantis! Did I say I love my Atlantis!! Hunq is cool but oh the 
Atlantis.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/21454529951/in/dateposted-public/

Can't wait to ride it this weekend.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 9:44:09 PM UTC-7, Çackalak wrote:
>
> Maybe this is a question that gets asked a lot here, so apologies if that 
> is the case.
>
> I am looking for a new frame to build up and these two are the finalists.  
> On paper, they look very similar.  I have an 84cm PBH and would be sized 
> 54cm and 58 cm for Hunqapillar and Atlantis, respectively.  
>
> Just wondering if there is an advantage with either one, given my set up 
> below:
>
> * 29x2.2 tires.  Probably Maxxis Ikon or Schwalbe Racing Ralphs.
> * Dirt drop bars.  On One Midge or ?
> * Ridden mostly on dirt roads, with some singletrack mixed in.  Paved 
> roads only to get to dirt.
> * Bikepacking is a must.  I think both offer everything I need for a 
> proper cargo set up.
>
> Hunq is cool, but the aesthetics of the Atlantis draws me.  I like more of 
> a level TT, and the lack of SO height doesn't bother me.
>
> I think I am leaning Atlantis.  It costs a little more, but only $300, so 
> not bad.  Any advice either way?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

[hsmitham]

Tony,

Great images. Can you name the folks in the picture. I know, Chris Johnson 
aka Pondero, Mary of Chasing Mailboxes and Tom Allingham aka Pudge, but the 
rest are a mystery. 

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 7:06:01 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> What a splendid day. Awesome meeting Chris and so many other local and not 
> local folks.  My participation ended in Leesburg today but the trip is 
> still ongoing. I'm hoping the crew is settled down in front of a campfire 
> (or more likely passed out)  off the C Canal right this minute.  Couple 
> group shot's from Fletcher's Boat House along the C, more photo's and at 
> least my part of the ride report coming later this week.
>
> Tony
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: San Francisco to Monterey, via way of Rivendell picnic

[hsmitham]

Doug,

Glad the cranks are still turning, making me so happy. By the description, 
you and Melanie had a wonderful trip. Great ride report.  Hope to ride with 
you soon.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh 

On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 6:47:18 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>
> A bit later than planned but pictures prove we were there:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/33786397@N03/albums/72157659369351876
>
> We needed some kind of bike tour & the Rivendell gathering provided the 
> ideal motivation.  From a friend's house in Monterey, we shuttled the 
> trusty pair of Atlantis' to San Francisco, and wandered around the 
> Embarcadero / Ferry Building / Fisherman's Wharf / marina area on our way 
> to our lodging.  After enjoying the city for a couple of days we met up 
> with David, Will et al who were doing a Marin Headlands area ramble.  Not 
> really able to keep up with those guys, we opted for photo ops and bit of 
> wandering around GGNRA (?) before arriving at the picnic.  We both won 
> visors in the "fishing for lugs".  
>
> Monday we left via Golden Gate Park & the Great Highway in absolutely 
> perfect weather.  Even the Devil's Slide Climb cooperated and we opted for 
> the "old road" which appears to have been completely re-built, with 
> overlooks, smooth pavement and extensive work to keep rockslides at bay.  
> Arriving in Half Moon Bay, we found our lodging by "looking for the fire 
> truck parked in front".  Quite the character & a wonderful host.  Tuesday 
> took us to Capitola via Hwy 1 as civilization thinned out & the scenery was 
> spectacular.  Sorry about the lack of photos; I tend to get lost in riding 
> & forget to take them.  Stocking up on goodies at Gayle's in Capitola, we 
> rolled south on Wednesday, finding what appeared to be a sculptor's 
> workshop in Half Moon Bay (but no one home?).  To reach our goal in 
> Monterey (area) we angled inland thru Marina / Seaside & across old Fort 
> Ord property.  Our last challenge was Laureles Grade ("10%; trucks use low 
> gears") but we had a tip on a roundabout way to climb, off the main hwy, 
> that proved well worth doing.  One teensy little bit of trail (an abandoned 
> local road) was much more pleasant than the alternative.  Roughly 150 
> miles, 3 days + the San Francisco portion.  Loads of fun.
>
> In the car, we headed south thru Big Sur.  Still plenty of touring 
> cyclists out there.  We stopped in Lucia for the view and met an Aussie on 
> an expedition loaded Thorn.  His response to the obvious "where ya' 
> headed?" was a casual "...tip of South America...".  And where did you 
> start?  Equally casually, "...Alaska."  But there's more!  He'd already 
> ridden to the US / Mexico border, then hiked back up to Canada, before 
> riding down the Pacific Coast again.  "Really pretty country, worth a 
> second look."  No timetable, he expects to be at it years, not months.  
> Said 50 miles a day was fine, no sense in getting worn out.  Those Aussies.
>
> dougP
>

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[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica Burgundy X Series for sale

[hsmitham]

Hey there Don,

I got the saddle! It's perfect, like new. Thanks for the easy transaction 
and quick shipping.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 7:11:17 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I have a Selle Anatomica X series for sale. Excellent condition. $85 plus 
> shipping. Paypal accepted.
> Don
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[RBW] Re: COFFEE AND BREAKFAST AT CHATFIELD RESERVOIR

[hsmitham]

Jon,

Great setting, great cook set and I love that toaster so brilliant! You're 
making me need up my game the menu is spot on especially on a crisp fall 
morn and the New Mexican Pinion coffee just sounds delicious. 

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 7:39:23 AM UTC-7, Jon Dukeman in the 
foothills of Colorado wrote:
>
> My favorite time of the year. Brisk morning air, fallen leaves crackling 
> under the tires, storms are done, cooler temps.
> First time out with  Trangia cook set. 
> .Chatfield Reservoir provides a peaceful setting with no one around except 
> a duck looking for crumbs.
> Unfortunately  Brad ( Caffeinated Wheelman) and I had schedule 
> conflicts.So I went solo. Would of been better if he could of been there. 
> Next time.
> Everything tastes better outside.
> The eggs were cooked ahead of time, & sausage  , were packed in my trunk 
> bag with a cold pack.All the other stuff went into the Med shop sack.
> Really like the GSI toaster. Muffins done in 30 seconds/ per side. Aero 
> Press and New Mexican Pinion coffee makes an amazing cup.
> Not the lightest set of equipment but everything worked really well.
> Looking forward to next time. Biscuits and Gravy
>
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/126595234@N07/albums/72157659347422836
>
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[RBW] My First ever Coffeeneuring Challenge

[hsmitham]

Yep I'm on board! Here's the dirty details. Don't let your children read 
this! I don't want to be held responsible for creating more addicts.

http://velocipeedemusings.com/

Tail Winds,

~Hugh 

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[RBW] Re: FS Rivendell Roll-y Pol-y tires 28mm

[hsmitham]

Hey you don't ask your Brother whether he wants those?? 

~Hugh

On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 9:30:34 AM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> For sale pair of Rivendell Roll-y Pol-y 28mm tires. Used but in great 
> condition. $35 shipped in CONUS. Respond PM and PayPal please. P.S. I have 
> too many tires
>
> Bruce in San Diego
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[RBW] Coffee outside.

[hsmitham]

Just a boring blog post about coffee. What ever!

http://velocipeedemusings.com/

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Los Angeles it's really a small town.

[hsmitham]

Okay that's a load of horse manure Los Angeles is a behemoth! Despite that 
fact you still sometimes run into someone from the RBW bunch in person. In 
this case, whilst rambling through Silverlake and grabbing a bite to eat at 
the local farmer's market I ran into Vanessa on her pink Bridgestone. From 
a distance I saw the unmistakable Riv saddle sack and a basket with a large 
shop sack,  hard to miss in the urban wilds, especially in a sea of race 
bikes and run of the mill commuter bags. We chatted about Riv stuff, 
commuter rail woes and her recent bike tour in Zion National Park. 
Hopefully, she see's this post and can add her feedback regarding her 
experience on tour. It was a nice visit with a charming lovely lady. Here's 
proof this actually happened.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/21551007175/in/dateposted-public/

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: wtb: Rivendell Atlantis - 58cm

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On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 3:26:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I agree with Will that the Atlantis is a splendid bike.  I waited 
> patiently for a 58 frame and fork and eventually it came.  
>
> I love it a lot, and have found only two imperfections.  
>
> 1.  I use it sometimes as a trail bike.  With 700x45s plus fenders (which 
> fit great), there is substantial TCO (toe clip overlap) which is a bit 
> bothersome on a trail bike.  You solve TCO with smaller diameter wheels, 
> like 650B, or more fork rake, like the low trail folks prefer, or a longer 
> TT, which many Riv-haters already wail about.  I'm a crank arm 
>

The reason I'll most likely have a low trail fork built with the added 
bonus of having dyno routing. Love my Atlantis despite the toe overlap. 
~Hugh

>
> 2.  I wish my Atlantis had the newer dual-eyelet fork tips.  Mine only has 
> the lower one.  I sometimes think about grabbing an unpainted Hunqafork (
> LINK ) just to have, for the 
> even wider tire clearance, and the for tips, and for the lowrider braze 
> ons, but haven't jumped on that yet.  
>
> On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 1:35:16 PM UTC-7, Will wrote:
>>
>> Good luck with your search. I have a 53 Toyo built Atlantis, fits like a 
>> glove, and it is flat out the best bike I'll ever own. 
>>
>> We don't see much Atlantis love on this list. I guess it's old news or 
>> something. Everyone talks Hunq. And that is too bad. Atlantis is a 
>> milestone. I wrote a comment on the Riv site a few months back... I said 
>> the ride is magic, and it really is. 
>>
>> My guess is Mojo's AllRounder is a pretty good analog. 753 is excellent. 
>>
>> Will
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 2:43:31 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote:
>>>
>>> Bump! Still looking!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] ISO Selle Anatomical X saddle black

[hsmitham]

As the post says looking for the above saddle in black. Figured I'd see if 
anyone has one they're not using before I spring for a new one. 

Tail Winds, 

~Hugh

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[RBW] Mount Laguna s24o

[hsmitham]

This happened in the Southland over the 9/11 weekend.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/albums/72157656255990733

It was cooler than at the coast with wide open vistas and superb dbl & 
single track and the company wasn't bad either.

Blessings to the 9/11 victims and their families.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: Rat trap pass tires on Atlantis

[hsmitham]

Well they may measure narrower but I suspect the ride will be so plush 
you'll never consider remounting those BB's. Enjoy the ride.

~Hugh

On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 4:23:00 PM UTC-7, A. L Young wrote:
>
> hey gang,
>
> The Rat Trap Pass tires arrived today. They fit with ample clearance on 
> my 56 cm Atlantis. On Velocity Aeroheat rims they measure 47mm. Narrow 
> compared to the Big Bens they replaced (52mm on same rims). 
>
> Instapics:
>
>
> https://instagram.com/p/7JUEnhu37E/
>
> https://instagram.com/p/7JXIKgO3_u/
>
> https://instagram.com/p/7JX4ovu3w7/
>
> Aaron Young
> The Dalles, OR
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT 26inch tires. big ben/big apple ish

[hsmitham]

I have two sets of BB's 26x2.15

~Hugh

On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 3:19:56 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:

 building a bike for my mom. need something like the big ben, big apple or 
 fat frank style. ie-big and tough. 26x2.1-2.3 
 figured i'd ask if anyone has something lying around before dropping 
 60-80$ on a new set. 


 i have 700x50 big apples (250-300 miles on them) that i can trade, as well 
 as a few other random things. 


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[RBW] Re: questions about buying /selling a bike on this group

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Hi Bill,

Like others I've bought many items from this group. I haven't sold too much 
though. My experiences have all been top notch. With that said I will like 
the Jim our moderator caution you that you make transactions at your own 
risk. This is a searchable forum and there is very little vetting as to who 
can buy and sell. I'd like to take this opportunity to share an experience 
I had recently not bike  related but selling on eBay and receiving funds 
through PayPal.

I sold a Sony a6000 digital camera on eBay in May. The day the auction 
closed through eBay communication the buyer asked me to send the camera to 
an address they supplied. I waited for the funds to show up in my PayPal 
account. They did but were pending as un-verified buyer after three days 
it was changed to just pending I figured this normal as I needed to ship 
the item then the funds would be released.  I printed out a shipping label 
and went to my local USPS they couldn't find the address? They said maybe 
it's a new development and not showing yet in our records? Here's my 
biggest error in this entire process! At this point I recalled that the 
buyer had given me a different address. So I promptly went home and 
retrieved the address and mailed it out. What I should have done was 
contact the buyer and ask questions which would have, should have thrown up 
a reg flag. I should have cancelled the sale. But alas I was happy it sold 
and felt under pressure to be a prompt seller to maintain good eBay seller 
feedback. So with the auction closed and the payment made through PayPal. 
All seemed good to go! Approximately 25 days later I received 
correspondence from PayPal that the buyer opened a dispute with their 
credit card company claiming they didn't authorize the purchase!

Here's where if you've ever watched the movie Brazil you can appreciate 
the morass I fell into. Since the transaction was a completed transaction 
eBay washed their hands of it and referred me to PayPal. I lost count how 
many times I called PayPal's customer service, hung up the phone left with 
a level of frustration I've never felt before, they have( I figure 
purposely) the most incompetent people at this point. Here's what I 
garnered from all those conversations.

1. Don't worry if the credit card companies found in favor of the buyers 
then no one would do business with the CC companies.
2. A dispute like this can take up to 75 days.
3. They PayPal gave the CC company the incorrect tracking number. So the CC 
company obviously figured I was a scammer.
4. We will give all the information you gave us to the CC company. 
Basically, they PayPal are your advocate at this point between you and the 
buyers CC company. Shaky at best.
5. Since you didn't ship to the buyer's address we have on file all PayPal 
seller protections are void.

I finally received an email from PayPal that the CC company decided in 
favor of the Buyer. At this point my PayPal account shows a negative 
balance of $880 $20 of that is a charge back fee from PayPal. Next up I 
started getting calls from PayPal! The person on the other end of this 
conversation was clearly competent. From that conversation I was told that 
seven days after a chargeback PayPal requires you settle your account with 
them and if you don't your account will be sent to a collections agency. At 
this point you may ask well you've got options. Right?

Since eBay discards all records of transactions after 60 days I can't 
communicate with the buyer through them. Back in early June when this all 
happened I did send a eBay email to the buyer asking how we can resolve 
this, no reply. The email that PayPal has on file for the buyer is bogus. 
Both eBay and PayPal won't give any information about the buyer for privacy 
reasons. That competent PayPal representative said, oh a lawyer can help 
you get access to the buyer's records. I contacted my local police and the 
detective said we can't help you this is a civil case and PayPal is the 
victim. 

Very important here is the PayPal user agreement. It states that you are 
responsible for any and all chargebacks period. In researching my options 
I found there are numerous scams perpetrated on the eBay platform and it's 
not necessarily a safe place to sell or buy things. Other sellers a lot 
more experienced than I have fallen victim to scams/thefts for way more 
money. In fact those merchants doing business on eBay received 
correspondence from eBay and PayPal claiming it's a hazard of doing 
business. These companies know their platforms are used by thieves and yet 
they portray a sense of safety. Granted, of all the transactions the bad 
experiences amount to a small fraction.  

My takeaway from this experience.

I'm paying back PayPal and will no longer use them to send or receive money 
period nor any other electronic payment service. In the future I will only 
accept checks and won't ship until those funds are cleared by my bank. I 
figure either the 

[RBW] Re: bb cable guide channel question

[hsmitham]

Doug my man is spot on. I have an '03 Atlantis same deal. I have the heat 
shrink tubing and yes when I work on the rear derailler and not dilligant I 
will find it isn't in the channel slot. Doug when I have time this fall I'm 
going to follow you're lead and do the same. Man I'm constanly tinkering.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 6:33:38 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:

 Bleriots were made with metal shifter cable guide channels that are molded 
 into the bb shell.
 They are not the bolt on kind.

 My Bleriot was originally built up with some plastic tubing that lays onto 
 the guide channels. But sometimes I find they have popped out, and the 
 cables and tubes run outside of the molded channels under the bb. I am 
 thinking this probably makes shifting worse.

 Is it ok to ditch the plastic tubes and just run the cables bare in the 
 metal bb shell channels? Or will they wear themselves and the metal/paint 
 of the channels away over the years of rubbing?


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[RBW] RE: Off topic alert!! Feedback request.

[hsmitham]

Well it's been a while in a world with *insta*gram and it seems no one out 
there has any experience with these shorts. So as is often the case I'll 
pony up and try em out.

I purchased the cigarette shorts in dark grey in the old cotton stretch 
fabric. Gonna take em on tour and see how they perform.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Off topic alert!! Feedback request.

[hsmitham]

Thought I'd ask the group...Anyone have experience with these Swrve shorts?

http://swrve.myshopify.com/products/mens-cigarette-shorts?variant=126704252

These are their cigarette shorts so their tight fitting, not lycra tight but 
still snug. They have two types in this model the cotton twill fabric with a 
small amount of lycra for stretch and their new fabric called durable cotton 
which has cotton, nylon (durable) and some lycra for stretch and I think a 
coating for wind and water resistance. 

What I'd really like to know is whether the first fabric model (which is 
incidentally the older model) after a long day in the saddle will dry out? 
Usually after a long day I'll change into some knickers around camp to give the 
shorts time to air out and dry.

Do they soften up after washing and are they too heavy for hot Summer 
rides...their Web site states they're for Spring  Summer? But they seem very 
thick especially as opposed to their other specific lightweight shorts.

Your feedback is appreciated. 

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

[hsmitham]

Read all the posts and agree with Garth. There are just so many variables. 
Here are my experiences.

On my 58cm Hilsen in 2013 I toured from SF to Paso with noddle bars and 
found it adequate, they really made it difficult on a slow loaded climb as 
it was difficult to keep the load under control, and I found I couldn't 
remain in the drops for long as back fatigue set in. Even so I was 
reluctant to go with an upright bar. I eased my way in with the Albastache 
bars on both my Hilsen and Atlantis. On the Hilsen I had a 9cm tallux stem 
but I felt slightly stretched out, I have some low back disk bulging (here 
is the first example of differentiation between people) so being able to 
sit fully upright is a benefit. So recently, on the HIlsen I switched to a 
8cm dirt drop which obviously brought the bars up and back. That change 
seemed to be the sweet spot for now. I say for now because we are all in 
flux, so what feels good now may be different in the future.The Hilsen is 
now relegated to day rides between 15  30 miles, I hope to increase my 
miles but that's my reality these days.

My 56cm Atlantis had the Albastache bars coupled with a 12cm tallux stem 
and I did lot's of day rambles and overnights, no long tours, like the 
Hilsen I felt stretched out and on a long ride I had hand  wrist 
discomfort. Recently, as some of you may already know I traded out the 12cm 
for the 9cm (from the Hilsen) then  finally went to a 10cm tallux stem and 
believe, I'm almost certain I found the sweet spot. The bar clamp is just 
slightly above my saddle height with the bar ends angled down. I find I 
have three primary hand positions.

1. To the rear at the grips.
2. just fore of the brake clamp sometimes over the brake clamps.
3. In the so called hooks. 

All three give me great riding postures. The hooks I'm angled forward to 
cut into the wind, and the two rear positions give my back varying degrees 
of relief. In the full upright position I'm not gonna be pushing for speed, 
but I'm not real slow just a more leisurely attitude. In the hooks I feel 
more aggressive and can lean in for more speed.

Between the two different setups I have to say they're both entirely 
different! I love them both for completely different reasons. The Hilsen is 
light  nimble running with next to no load other than me, the Grand Bois 
Hetres are light, supple and quick adding to the fleet feeling and the 
Albastache bars have many of the positive attributes of drop bars, keeping 
the Hilsen more racerly 

The Atlantis with all the rack add on's feels like a 4x4 truck, solid, with 
great visibility and a sure footed vibe running the Schwalbe Thunder 
Burt's. By no means is the Atlantis a slug, I still feel the frame coupled 
with the TB's and the Alba' give back a supple comfortable ride without 
compromising too much on forward momentum.

So which one is the most comfortable? I have to say the Atlantis. Have I 
done rando miles? No. Have I put them to the test on a long tour? No. But 
based on my previous experiences I feel pretty confidant that they'll be 
great. I'm going on tour in July and will have more feedback on the 
Albatross bars and their merits or demerits.

In regards to Mark's points. Yes the bar ends can and do get in the way! 
Especially on tight turning. I've ridden my Atlantis on plenty of single 
track, tight vegetation and hairpin turns and never felt unduly hindered. 
There have been a handful of times when my knee knocked into the right 
shifter and gave me an undesired shift but never too bad. And on tight 
turns in awkward positions it probably made more sense to dismount or take 
it easy. IMO my Atlantis  weighs 30+ lbs I'm just not gonna be going fast 
anywhere. It's all about making a conscious prioritized compromise. What do 
you want to achieve in relation to your riding habits and experience. Funny 
how with bikes at least IME it takes time, money and patience. Hope some of 
this helps and good luck in your discovery process.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh with a head cold here typing and wishing he was going on the swift 
solstice camp out tomorrow.
  Los Angeles, CA 

On Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 9:41:00 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote:

 Day Dreaming about how I would build up a sam.  Thinking about why I want 
 the sam realized it would be for fun long rides.  If I'm running errands 
 I'd use my cheaper bikes.  Loaded touring I have a bike for that.  Are drop 
 bars a safer bet for long distance riding?   Don't have much experience 
 with upright bars.  Seems like the upright bars limit the options for hand 
 position.  


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[RBW] Re: COUNTRY ROADS ON A COUNTRY BIKE

[hsmitham]

Jon,

Like the others say beautiful country!! It's roads like this that get me 
going. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126595234@N07/18840111256/in/photostream/ 

I want to jump through the image and start riding. What's the elevation? So 
this area as Patrick calls it is the front range? I thought the Western 
side of the Rockies was the front range. Says the guy on the Western side :)

The Sam looks gorgeous, curious how do you like the paul thumbies mounted 
on the Albatross bars? I found that they eliminated the wonderful hand 
position just fore of the brake mount. Did you have bar ends prior? Thanks 
for the post.

One of these days I hope to ride Colorado.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh
  Los Angeles, CA

On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 11:13:42 AM UTC-7, Jon Dukeman in the 
foothills of Colorado wrote:

 Took the Sam out to the local roads of Larkspur and first ride since 
 adding a Pass  Stow front rack , med Basket, Med Shop Sack,  Acorn Medium 
 Saddle bag. Includes shots of downtown Larkspur. Note...three way stop at 
 main intersections..no traffic lights. Hope the photos open.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/126595234@N07/


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[RBW] Re: Early Morning Ride

[hsmitham]

Hey David,

Saw that you got out this AM and made a mental note that that's gonna be my 
routine here on out with temps rising! Glad you did it, makes the whole day 
that much better.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 10:58:59 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now that it's daily 100F here in Inland Southern California, my 
 comfortable riding window is much narrower. Either early morning or 
 early evening. Still warm in the evening, so that leaves morning as 
 the only comfortable time. Finally got around to making it happen 
 after thinking about it all week. 

 Wake up at 5:30. Make an espresso, pump up the tires, out the door @ 
 5:55. Spin around the hills till 6:45, then zip back down (topped out 
 at 40.4MPH!) to be home by 7:00 when my spouse leaves for work. Worked 
 out great and really enjoyed it. Will see if I can make it happen more 
 than once! 

 Best pic of the morning: 

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/18891368025/in/photostream/lightbox/
  

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[RBW] The Death of the Oregon Outback.

[hsmitham]

Well here's the scoop. Not the end of the world but a sad commentary on the 
state of some beings.

http://www.oregonbikepacking.com/the-death-of-the-oregon-outback/

I was planning on riding this in '16 especially after seeing RBW list folks 
like Brian Hanson, Mark Reimer and others, Flickr, IG  bloggy posts. I'll 
still ride it one of these days but may give the folks who live on the 
route a chance to mellow some.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: Need advice fitting/finding a shorter seat post for a 47cm Betty Foy

[hsmitham]

What Bill said.

I'd find a less expensive SP and cut that one. If that works then use the 
lugged one else where or sell it.

~Hugh

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 4:17:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 It is absolutely OK to cut a seatpost.  It damages your resale value and 
 you need to be careful since now the min insertion line is meaningless if 
 you raise it a bunch, but other than those things, go for it.  

 On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 3:24:01 PM UTC-7, John wrote:

 I'm trying to fine tune the saddle on my SO's 47cm Betty, and it looks 
 like I either need a slightly shorter seat post, or I need to shorten the 
 seat post by about 3/4 - 1.

 My SO's PBH is 73 and the lowest I can get the saddle is 62cm from saddle 
 to axle with a B68. I would like to use a B7s to give her a little more 
 space, but this is the smallest concern at this point.

 Both the Nitto Crystal Fellow and Nitto Lugged seat posts seem to be 
 slightly too long to get a Brooks 68s or B67s down far enough. They are 
 stopped by the junction of the seat  top tubes.

 It looks like shortening the lugged seat post would get either the B68s 
 or B67s saddle low enough, and back far enough to be comfortable. 

 Are there any problems with sawing a bit off the end, or should I try 
 finding something shorter? 

 Any alternatives, ideas, suggestions, hints, advice, and dire warnings 
 would be very welcome.

 Thanks in advance,

 John   



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Re: [RBW] Wrenching on the Bombadil

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Tom,

As always you do excellent work!

Just curious, which fender's were you running?  I've got the SKS ~60mm on 
my 26 wheel size Atlantis running the 2.1 TB's with ton's of clearance.

~Hugh

On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 11:56:12 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  Must be something going around about East Coast Bombadils – I spent a 
 few hours tinkering with mine yesterday as well.  Functionally, made some 
 changes:

  

 1.  Installed Thunder Burts in place of the old Fatty Rumpkin Force 
 Fields.  *Huge* difference in the ride (the Fattys are pretty clunky, if 
 bombproof), but a bit of a leap of faith re flats (or lack thereof) – 
 changing a tire on the Rohloff/Pitlock rear wheel might be a bit of a chore 
 on the road.  TBs are about 52mm on Velocity Synergies newly installed; I 
 assume they might stretch out another mm or two eventually.  Plenty of 
 clearance for the TBs, but…

  

 2.  Not enough for TBs plus fenders, so the fenders had to go.

  

 3.  The old Brooks Plump Grips looked great, but the supposed length 
 adjustability (unscrew spoke nut, remove required number of leather rings, 
 *et 
 voil**á* – shorter grip to accommodate Rohloff twist shifter) didn’t work 
 very well in practice, so installed a basic pair of black “cork” grips from 
 VO, with the right side cut to size to fit the Rohloff shifter.

  

 4.  And I finally got around to adjusting the Rohloff shifting, so that I 
 now actually have all 14 gears (instead of the 13 that sufficed for the 
 first few hundred miles).

  

 Some pics:

  

 The finished bike – the Butch Bomba:


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/18223610733/in/dateposted-public/

  

 TB installed on the dynamo front wheel, Pass  Stow rack, and lighting:


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/18656662029/in/dateposted-public/

  

 TB installed on rear, showing Tubus rack and Rohloff cable routing:


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/18223717323/in/dateposted-public/

  

 And the drive train:


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/18861988372/in/dateposted-public/

  

 Planning to fiddle around with some new bag configurations tonight.

  

 Tom “Overthink” Allingham

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

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 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 *Subject:* [RBW] Wrenching on the Bombadil

  
  
 The other thread on the joys of wrenching made me want to share part of my 
 day's wrenching project.  The Saluki re-build has allowed me to start 
 messing around with the Bombadil which maintained it's initial 
 configuration since I scrambled to put it together for my big Veterans Day 
 ride last November.  This frame has so much flexibility!  Honestly though I 
 think it really just wants fatter tires and sleak, flared handlebars!  So 
 here is what I've been working on
  
  
  
 http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/06/nobby-bombadil.html
  
  
  
 For those keeping track those are 2.25, 650B Nobby Nic's.  Definitely on 
 the outside of recommended width for the first gen Bomba's but I think in 
 un-muddy situations it's going to be fine.  I picked up these tires locally 
 and couldn't pass on the opportunity to check the clearances.  2.1 is 
 definitely the sweet spot for this frame though.  The Nitto RM14 Dirt Drop 
 bars are remarkably comfortable to ride in the drops at least as high up as 
 I have them.  I'm hoping to get off-road for a couple hours this week or 
 coming weekend.
  
  
  
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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

[hsmitham]

Michael,

Pretty sure you've already tried this but I'll forge ahead anyway. My wife 
and I both have Riv's with Albatross bars outfitted with racks, bags and 
baskets, using any rack is a challenge. I've used a number of them over the 
years.

Currently on my Miata I use a Saris Freedom hitch rack 
https://www.saris.com/product/freedom-2 ( tray type with central mast that 
attaches to the down tube)

And on our truck with camper I have a swing away hitch rack ( the type that 
suspends the bike from the top tube) to have access to the rear. 
 http://www.yakima.com/shop/bike/hitch/swingdaddy An arm adapter is 
required on this one with the Mixte.

In both cases I have to loosen the stem and rotate the handle bars and 
either lower or raise the seat to clear each other. I make sure to mark 
seat and handlebar height/position obviously. 

I used to have a Thule hitch rack like the one you're considering. The 
stabilizing arm ideally makes contact with the top of the front tire. I 
suppose you could cheat it a bit forward to clear the leading edge of the 
fender but that wouldn't be optimal.

https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/carriers-and-racks/bike-carriers/hitch-mounted-bike-carriers/thule-t2-2-bike-916xtr-_-916xtr
 

In one of the pictures in the above link  you can see where the stabilizing 
arm makes contact with the front tire. I sold mine when I sold our other 
truck and bought the Miata. The Saris is much lighter weight. All have 
pluses and minuses.

Hope I was of some help.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh  

On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 5:52:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I have been riding bikes with fenders for about 15 years now and have only 
 found one downside - they often don't play well with racks, neither locking 
 racks nor car racks.

 We have a Saris  TBones Hitch rack on our Prius and I found it worked well 
 with both my Saluki or Ram and Pat's Sequoia.  However I have never liked 
 having the weight of the bikes up that high with the additional stress it 
 puts on the rack and hitch.  Now Pat has switched to riding a Betty with 
 Albatross bars and I am always struggling to make the two bikes fit.  It is 
 doable as a two person job.  I bought and tried one of these parallel TT 
 but it made the situation worse. It's a challenge to get the her handle 
 bars  my front rackto clear.  Likewise my bars  her rear rack.  Since 
 both bikes have racks  fenders, they are fairly heavy as bike go today but 
 still within the racks spec.  Still the vertical support flexes some under 
 load.

 So... I have been looking at a new hitch racks, especially ones where the 
 bikes sit in a well and get clamped around the tire.  Does anyone have 
 experience with these to share?  Do you have to put the top clamp around 
 the tire, or is it OK to put it over the fender?  The Yakima rack 
 installation instructions specifically say to put the top hook within 2 of 
 the fork, which clearly rules out using it with any top rack, like my 
 Mark's mini.  The Saris instructions don't say that is necessary, but the 
 video on their web site shows them setting it up that way.  Finally, how 
 close together are the wells; is there sufficient space for Albatross bars?

 Michael


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[RBW] Re: Joy of Wrenching

[hsmitham]

Chris,

Glad you found some time to work on your Hilsen, I bet you can't wait to 
start building your freshly painted travel Hilsen! I can't wait to see that 
build. Just a winning color my friend!!

Currently, I'm redoing both cockpits on my Hilsen  Atlantis, just finished 
wrapping the Albastache bars on the Hilsen after installing a 8cm Dirt Drop 
Stem. I rode it for about two weeks to make sure this was the right 
decision. Today I'll be cleaning the Drive train. The Atlantis got a new 
10cm Tallux stem for the win! Today it gets new bar end shifters and a rear 
dynamo light. I'm hoping that these changes will last a really long time 
and I can just focus on lots of riding. Other smaller projects on the 
distant horizon to tinker/wrench on.

Oh and I'm installing a Mark's rack on the Wife's Betty.

When my wife looks in on me tinkering on the bikes in the garage she smiles 
and declares your pretty content  and she's right! Working on bikes I get 
my Zen on.

Doug, I was wondering what all that noise was coming from yer Atlantis? 
Silent or smooth drive train is the bee's knees! 15K on your cassette well 
done Sir. 

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 8:34:49 AM UTC-7, Chris Chen wrote:

 Life has been crazy for a while, and I haven't had the chance to work on 
 the bikes in a few months. Just remembering to lube the chain requires 
 forethought. Tonight I finally started fixing my Hilsen with new brakes, 
 saddle, and cockpit. It felt so good.

 Here's hoping you find time in your life for a little soul maintenance

 cc

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[RBW] Re: Jan reports on new Compass tire prototypes

[hsmitham]

Full circle!!

On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 10:43:51 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 26 is the new 650B!!

 On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 6:23:06 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Looks like Jan got his first production prototypes for two new 
 anticipated tire models.  Even fatter road/gravel tires in 559x54 and 
 584x48.

 https://janheine.wordpress.com/

 Now you need two new bikes to fit these tires!



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[RBW] Re: Contemplating which route to take with a Sam, budget build or riv build kit

[hsmitham]

While at Riv were the clems available to ride? 

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-clemsmith.htm

For the price of the HIllborne frame you get a complete bike ready to roll! 
I know it's not the Hillborne, but considering the evolution of riv bikes 
I'd say all the good that's in the Hillborne most likely can be found in 
the Clem Jr. And it looks great! And I know the parts Riv hung on it will 
serve you well for many miles, then as others have mentioned replace with 
higher end parts if that's your penchant. 

+1 on the stem mounted shifters, I know that's the direction I'm leaning 
with my Hilsen, Albatross bars  those shifters for me will be a sweet 
spot. The IRD are particularly beautiful, I love how the cables just loop 
efficiently to the down tube.

Will's Sam is how I'd build it up, tho with those shifters I mentioned 
above. 

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff8.htm

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 9:57:26 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote:

 So I test rode a sam the other day and really enjoyed the ride.  Getting 
 my ducks in a row to swing a frame.  I've always wanted to build up a 
 frame.  But as my camaro sitting in the garage proves, sometimes projects 
 don't go as planned.  A concern is that the budget build doesn't turn out 
 to be that thrifty after all.  But maybe it'll be fine, I'm a pretty picky 
 shopper and my equipment work out pretty well.  Seeking advice from those 
 that were in my position.  Any regrets not just taking the easier route?


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[RBW] Re: ID or suggest front rack for Betty Foy?

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D,

That's the Mark's rack and the right one for your application.

Cheers,

~Hugh

On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 10:53:44 PM UTC-7, D Yat wrote:

 Seeking advise on a front rack for a Betty Foy.   I just want to put a 
 basket up front (and not carry low-mounted panniers.)

 The photo of the Chevoit on this old blug post has a nice looking front 
 rack that would probably work with the Betty Foy (it has the same or 
 similar front fork lowrider mounts and bottom eyelets).  Can anybody 
 identify it?  It looks similar but a little bigger than a Mark's rack 
 (http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r1.htm)

 I would like to carry more than the 6-lb weight limit for the Mark's rack.

 Thanks for any suggestions









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[RBW] ISO NITTO lugged seatpost.

[hsmitham]

Think I may need more setback on the 'ol Atlantis. If you have one and don't 
need it PM me.

Cheers,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Spotted on Bike Portland site

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Does!


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 http://bikeportland.org/2015/06/03/ride-exploring-barney-reservoir-rugged-timber-roads-west-forest-grove-143402
 
 
 
 Looks like a great outing!

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[RBW] Re: A Life Update

[hsmitham]

Yes a quick recovery! Keep your eye on the prize, riding your lovely Betty. 

~Hugh

On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 6:51:16 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:

 Some of you have followed my various health complaints over the last year 
 or so, and I'm thankful for your friendship and support. I wanted to let 
 you know that I finally have a date for knee replacement surgery. I'll be 
 going in on July 7, 2015. I'll be in the hospital for at least 3 days, and 
 definitely off the bike for several months. Getting back on my bike is my 
 biggest motivation, so if you ever hear me complain about how hard 
 physiotherapy and rehab are, point me in the direction of my Betty Foy and 
 tell me to stick with it. 

 I hope you're all riding well and joyfully!

 Cheers,
 Cecily 


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[RBW] ISO 10cm Tallux Stem.

[hsmitham]

In my search to find my cockpit sweet spot I'd like to try a 10cm tallux 
stem. Anyone have one lying around they aren't using? PM me if so.

Cheers,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: How old is your Hillborne? Really

[hsmitham]

Mark,

I don't have a Hillborne but a while back I had a guy admire my Hilsen. He 
said  wow that's a great Frankenstein bike I didn't feel offended just a 
smug knowing :-)

~Hugh
  Los Angeles, CA

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On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 11:49:44 AM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote:

   That is a reoccurring question I hear when out among bike enthusiasts.   
 Nobody cares about the production date or  from which batch it may have 
 come.
 People are always asking me how old it is.  They never ask that about the 
 Hunqapillar, just the Hillborne.  Some are surprised when I tell them it's 
 only 3 years old or so, but many just don't believe me.  Some have even 
 corrected me with, No, that's an English brand.  A friend of mine had one 
 in the '70's.  They will argue, pretending to know some deep secret about 
 the lug work that *They* just don't make 'em like that anymore.  When I 
 try to explain who *They* are, I'm ignored and, being the true 
 enthusiasts, they continue to compliment my find and they way I've built 
 it up with modern components.   It's happened a few times now.   Is it just 
 me, or has this happened to anybody else?


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[RBW] Re: This is why no one likes riding with me.

[hsmitham]

Yes, dusty, hot, lots of hike a bike, must be a Manny ride!

Notice all the pictures are his friends following, Manny out front to 
capture those images, a whirling dervish indeed!

Thanks Manny.

~Hugh
  Los Angeles, CA

On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 8:14:23 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Hot. Steep. Loose. Sunburnt. Tired.

 Ladyfriend says not to kill my friends as they are the only ones willing 
 to ride with you.

 Pictures proved that when the sun is out guns are out:
 https://flic.kr/s/aHskckbxgC


 Manny I melt brains Acosta


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[RBW] Re: loaded handling question

[hsmitham]

Whew! I just read all the posts, took two attempts. I've been busy!

I have to agree with rack/load flex as at least one point of origin of 
oscillation that is then transmitted through out the frame, but in the extreme. 
Both my Hilsen and Atlantis have had shimmy. When riding the Hilsen basically 
unloaded at speeds above 25 mph hands free I get shimmy as soon as I squeeze 
the top tube with my knees it's gone! Hands on nothing.

I had the same issue with my '03 Atlantis loaded or unloaded. Violent shimmy 
even with one hand loaded and horrible at low speed climbing, lots of drift and 
correction which is super fatiguing.  Mike Schiller suggested the Tange needle 
bearing headset, which I installed. The headset made a huge difference and like 
Doug said the increased friction at the bottom race (the upper race are normal 
bearings)dampens the oscillation. But this headset will only go so far in 
resolving shimmy. Personally, I feel that the ride quality inherent with Riv's 
tubing and geometry that we admire is also what contributes to frame flex and 
consequently shimmy. In the case of both my bikes unladen I hypothesize the 
shake originates at the bottom fork race and becomes amplified though out the 
frame. Add a load that flexes and you have a recipe for increased shaking. I 
understand that some Riv's don't manifest these qualities therefore I attribute 
this to inconsistencies in batch builds. Also, I'm  certainly no expert in 
tubing types and geometry but understand there are other bike builds that don't 
manifest these qualities. But since we're talking about a Riv All Rounder.

David, I understand you want to use what you have but I'll still throw out my 
suggestions even though.

So how to mitigate these aspects and have the stability desired? Install the 
Tange headset number one, next as Doug mentioned, try different load 
configurations. I like a low front load even with a medium trail fork using a 
Tubus low rider rack with hoop, small campee rack/basket configuration under 3 
lbs and a light rear load strapped/secured to an R14 rack. When feasible I 
ditch the low rider's off road.

In terms of cockpits, and I know lots of you love drop bars but for comfort I 
like Albatross bars up high, I can be in an aggressive position in the hooks 
and when I need to give my back and neck a break I can sit up with no need to 
ride hands free.

I have plans to remove  replace my Hilsen's headset and since my Atlantis is 
my loaded tour rig I have plans to have a low trail fork built just to see 
whether or not it makes a difference. My .02.

Cheers,

~Hugh
 Los Angeles, CA 





 May 28, 2015 at 9:07:38 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
 Last week on a S240, had a great time (except for that one incident)
 but the problem was really, really bad shimmy/wobble. So bad I really
 couldn't take my hands off even for a bit at any speed.
 Rear loaded, with a little bit up front (sleeping bag). Pannier on one
 side only but not a ton of weight in there. Heaviest thing was
 probably the tent, packed up high.
 So what am I packing wrong? I don't want to get a whole new luggage
 system, nor a new bike, just want to work with what I've got and what
 you can see here:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/17795666300/in/photostream/lightbox/
 Suggestions? Want to get it so I'm stable and can ride hands free, at
 least at lower 10mph speeds. Possible, or just the wrong bike for it?
 Intermediate Riv tubing, OS downtube, nothing super light, nor super
 stout, basically like a Hilsen I would guess.
 
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 Cheers,
 David
 
 Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
 
 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal

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[RBW] Re: Google Photos

[hsmitham]

Look out Flickr!

~Hugh
  Los Angeles, CA

On Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 3:29:48 AM UTC-7, ascpgh wrote:

 Wow. I just read an article about some features of the new and improved 
 Google Photos and took a look at my pictures. 

 Search bike and it will sort through pictures and display any with a 
 bike in the image or bike related stuff, the latter from tagging 
 information. Same for noteworthy enough images able to be identified 
 geographically like the Eiffel tower, or Amsterdam canals. Again with or 
 without geographic tagging or titling. 

 The experiment begins...

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh


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[RBW] Re: Mashley S240: Half Moon Bay

[hsmitham]

Manny,

As always you impress me with your can do attitude. How awesome to have aa 
banjo to listen to.

You may want to have some extra steel brazed on that front down tube  We know 
how you like to break things especially with your penchant towards front 
loading 

Thanks for the share. Gonna get the wife on a tandem this Summer. 

Cheers, 

~Hugh




On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:25:32 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
 The lady-friend writes.
 We met some locals, listened to a home-made banjo around the campfire, made 
 s'mores and slept by the beach. Also props for figuring out how to fit all my 
 extra luggage on our bike!
 
 
 Pictures proved that tandem camping is the best type of camping.
 https://www.flickr.com/gp/mannyacosta/7m2L0A
 
 
 
 
 
 Mashley 

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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[hsmitham]

Anne,

I'm  with you, I too am a side sleeper and a air mattress is a must. I've found 
that if I keep it slightly deflated I get a wonderful night of rest. That foam 
pad looks great! Super lightweight perfect for siting anywhere,  just not 
really compressible. These days I like super compression to save on space.

Your doing the entire divide? How long are you taking? 

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: Visting Portland

[hsmitham]

I'd suggest riding the Springwater MUP, maybe hit the Rail Road Museum close to 
the end of the Northern end of the Springwater. Another stop is OMSI also off 
the Springwater and I personally think Forest Park is a must! Maybe climb 
Tabor. And I love riding to Cartlandia in SE. So many things to do, hopefully 
some locals will chime in. Have a wonderful time. 

Cheers, 

~Hugh




On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 9:14:47 AM UTC-7, Kurt Manley wrote:
 My girlfriend and I are taking a road trip up to Portland in a couple weeks 
 and bringing our bikes. We plan on riding around fairly leisurely and 
 enjoying a great town. I've been before but never had the pleasure of having 
 my Riv (or any bike for that matter) with me. 
 
 Any tips? Good routes, sights, beer stops? We will def stop by Rivelo and 
 Velo Cult. 
 
 Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Frames on ebay

[hsmitham]

Yeah the Legolas is gorgeous, looks like a fresh coat of paint and all the way 
from Walnut Creek! 

~Hugh 

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[RBW] SoCal All Rounders OC Back Country Dirt Fest!

[hsmitham]

Just another boring S24o in SoCal Here 
http://velocipeedemusings.com/2015/05/24/trabuco-canyon-overnight-dirt-fest/
.

~Hugh
  Los Angeles, CA

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[RBW] Re: At last! My new Homer!

[hsmitham]

Doug,

Nah it's a fast bike! I run the Hetre's and every time I get on it I'm just 
wow! Congrats on your new wheels and enjoy in good health.

~Hugh

On Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 7:39:59 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote:

 At last! My new A. Homer Hilsen! Here is the obligatory picture in front 
 of Riv HQ. I just threw on my bag and a water bottle and off I went! 
 Amazing bike, I absolutely love it! Thanks to all the many people at Riv 
 who helped me in this process!

 The wheels that Rich made are just perfect. I'm so glad I got the Paul 
 brakes, they stop as well as my disc brakes.

 The bike is MUCH faster than my old bike...to much so to be real. So I 
 know some of this is just new bike placebo effect. But who cares? I'm 
 loving it!

 Doug



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[RBW] ISO 70 cm Nitto Tallux Stem

[hsmitham]

Hi Group, 

Anyone have one of these they don't need?  PM me off list.

Cheers, 

~Hugh 

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[RBW] Re: baggins and sackville

[hsmitham]

Yup! Agreed. What's not to love?

~Hugh



On Saturday, May 16, 2015 at 1:40:08 PM UTC-7, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
 https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B03GRMtznGcP7b7
 
 they work well together
 
 each can hold a growler
 
 or better yet, both
 
 I do love bike bags.
 
 Yours,
 Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto Technomic Deluxe 110 x 25.4

[hsmitham]

Drew  David, 

What's the quill length of the Technomic?  The Tallux that Riv sells is 225mm. 
Is it the same as the Tallux? And what are the differences, finish? And drew 
why do you want a shorter quill maybe saving weight?

I've got a 12cm Tallux 26.0mm on my Albatross bars with shims and need to go 
shorter to a 90 or 80mm,25.4mm stem. I have a 90mm, 26.0 on my Albastache and 
I'd like to switch to a 70mm 26.0 stem.

I know it's a long shot do you fellows have either of those your not using?

In the interest of saving money I may just throw the 90mm on with shims and 
deal with it and pick up the 70mm for my Hilsen.

Cheers, 

~Hugh


On Monday, May 18, 2015 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
 Hey David,
 Yeah they are hard to find. Box dog bikes has them online, which I might go 
 for. I too despise the shims. Ideally, I want something shorter than the 
 technomic/tallux and longer than the dynamic or pearl. The only one that 
 seems to fit that bill is the tech deluxe.

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