RE: [RBW] Re: Handlebar setup
Matt, that is exactly what I did with my Sam Hilborne. I got the seat right (height) then carried a wrench with me and adjusted the handlebar height. Then, seat fore and aft and finally rechecked the seat height. It took a few days of tweeking but the ride is very nice now and I at 60 wake up eacvh morning with a few aches and pains to start with. Don't need any extras while out looking at the beautiful women,.. ahem, I mean scenery! :^) best, JimP Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 06:56:22 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Re: Handlebar setup From: matthiasbe...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Zaelia, sorry to hear about your troubles with getting the right bike fit. That being said, please read the remainder of this message understanding that it is rather biased :) I am extremely skeptical of professional bike fitting. I think you're better off just getting the right leg extension (seat- height), and then playing around with bar and saddle fore/aft postion yourself until you're comfortable.The most important 'fitting' session you can have is to ride a bike(!) carrying a 6mm wrench, and adjust as necessary. In fact, always carry that wrench, because even after years of riding, you may decide you want your saddle 1cm forward or backward or your bars higher/lower. Stem length isn't something you can adjust easily without having multiple stems (or an adjustable one), so best thing you can do is leave your handlebars untaped until you have that settled.Of course, as soon as you want to try different handlebars, your preferred stem length goes out the window and you have to start over again. For saddle height, the best advise I've seen is, roughly:sit on seat, fully extend leg, heel over pedal, should just barely touch. Or, measure 'PBH' rivendell-style, i.e. pulling up as hard as possible, then subtract 10cm, set seat-height there.Ride bike, adjust as necessary (5mm hex wrench, or whatever size your seat collar bolt). Finally, keep in mind that bodies/minds change over time, so things like desired saddle height and reach change over time for a given individual.It is possible that changes will be more rapid and pronounced if you are just getting into riding again after a long break.Just take your time and ease into it, is the best advise I can give.Start with short rides, but do them regularly. In my humble opinion, doing 'big' rides before you have your fit/comfort dialed-in is going to skew your understanding of your own fit/comfort needs, and lead you down the wrong solution paths. -Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] jaunt in weston woods on the quickbeam
Really Beautiful!! Jim From: orthie...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 06:15:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [RBW] jaunt in weston woods on the quickbeam To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Looks like Fall... Beautiful! Sent from my iPhone 4 On Apr 29, 2011, at 2:02 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Just thought I'd share a few snapshots from a brief ride last weekend in weston woods here in MA: http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157626481676863/ Looks like perfect weather again this weekend here in New England. Have to take advantage when you can around here! Happy riding :) -Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Source for nice cycling posters (was: hiawatha posters)
Looks like Velouria with one of her green bikes! Jim Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 08:43:04 -0600 Subject: [RBW] Source for nice cycling posters (was: hiawatha posters) From: bertin...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com CC: skvi...@gmail.com Pretty. I want to get a few nice cycling posters. I do have this one, found at my usual emporium. (I am sure no one will be offended. I am not at all trying to be controversial; I like this photo as a good example of late 19th century commercial poster art and one related to cycling.) On a similar note: where can I find posters of the famous photos like that of Bartali shifting his Parigi-Roubaix or Cambria Corsa on a climb, or of Coppi climbing, and so on? Coppi and Bartali in particular, tho' I wouldn't mind Anquetil or Kublet or others from the 30s to the 50s. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: I just got the new one back from the framers. http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/5602012856/ I'll get them hung on that wall sometime soon, I swear. :) thanks to Jim Thill at HC for the posters. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Sam for a Sam
Do you have any pics to show color and condition of your bike? best, JimP Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:36:59 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Sam for a Sam From: oceanm...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Greetings All, A quick note to see if there is any curiosity in a potential bike trade. I have a 52cm Hillborne with plenty of beausage though mechanically perfect that I've had for close to 2 years. I recently hopped on a larger frame and realized I may be more comfortable on a 56cm. I am perfectly content to ride my 52cm for the next decade but thought I might see if there is anyone out there with a 56 that feels too big. Located in Berkeley for logistic's sake. Cheers, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: waxing chains--how hot the wax?
Why would moisture haver an effect on wax. I wax guns and knives to keep them from rusting due to the high humidity here... JimP Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:22:02 -0800 Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: waxing chains--how hot the wax? From: cyclotour...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I use a Fry Baby deep fryer. I don't know what temp it heats to. FYI, the wax is useless with the slightest bit of moisture. Not a problem for me in the summer as it performs wonderfully in dry and dusty conditions. On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: Check out EcoVelo - Alan has several posts on the how-to's and why- to's of waxing. -Pete On Feb 22, 4:45 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Surprised I didn't find the definitive answer in the archives, or a riv reader for that matter. The 1992 Bridgestone catalogue mentions using a double boiler, thus 212 Fahrenheit max. Riv Reader Vol 1 Issue 1 says Grant uses a 400 F bath, and says the flash point is 425 F. Also says don't do this at home (liability reasons, one assumes). So, what do the extra 188 F get you? Lower viscosity and better penetration? Has anyone found this to matter, or has anyone the necessary scientific background to theorize upon the topic? Winter here is bone dry season, so it seems like the time to finally try wax after 20 years of cycling. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance. - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Sam for a Sam
Hi Adam, I have a 56 which is a bit big for me. I love it when I get on but, the truth is a smaller size wouold be a better fit. My bike, however is virtually brand new. I got it for Christmas. There is a single 2mm paint chip on the top tube, otherwise is pristine. Orange. What color is yours? Pics of condition? My e-mail address is: thefamil...@hotmail.com best, Jim Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:36:59 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Sam for a Sam From: oceanm...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Greetings All, A quick note to see if there is any curiosity in a potential bike trade. I have a 52cm Hillborne with plenty of beausage though mechanically perfect that I've had for close to 2 years. I recently hopped on a larger frame and realized I may be more comfortable on a 56cm. I am perfectly content to ride my 52cm for the next decade but thought I might see if there is anyone out there with a 56 that feels too big. Located in Berkeley for logistic's sake. Cheers, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12, SD, few more photos
Excellent! Very nice pics! JimP Subject: [RBW] SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12, SD, few more photos From: jimcwar...@earthlink.net Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:25:06 -0800 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I also want to publicly thank Dustin for creating the route and hosting our post-ride meal. It was a perfect day with great people. http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157626043155664/ -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Everything's Perfect....I'ma touchin NOTHIN!
All right!! Congratulations! best, Jim Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:05:29 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Everything's PerfectI'ma touchin NOTHIN! From: angusle...@sbcglobal.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com My name is Angus and I am a tinkerer. I can't leave well enough alone. I'm constantly trying to make everything better (although it doesn't always work out that way). Nothing is perfect...everything always needs improving. Many people may think this is sad...but I've come to accept it. I'm kinda happy with it actually. Last weekend I took the 13 year old All-Rounder for a ride (the Albatross bar equipped All-Rounder is my stiff back bike) http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951387@N08/4739416729/ Something clicked...everything worked well: brakes, shifting, handling...everything. I realized I haven't had to fiddle with anything on this bike in months; nothing felt funny, shifters seemed happy with the derailleurs, brakes were easy to use, modulated well, didn't squeal and stayed centered, position was great, nothing made funny noises WHOA! This hasn't happened before. Everything's Perfect...I'ma touching NOTHIN! Angus Who dreams of one day getting his other bicycles to this level of zen like harmony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Everything's Perfect....I'ma touchin NOTHIN!
Oh, one other thing I meant to say. I have a set of axioms I have come upon regarding this topic. Axion #1 If you don't know how to put something back together, don't take it apart. best, JimP From: orthie...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:16:49 -0600 Subject: Re: [RBW] Everything's PerfectI'ma touchin NOTHIN! To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com For how long will you be able to refrain from touching something on this bike? :-) Zen on!!! René Sent from my iPhone 4 On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:01 PM, jim phillips thefamil...@hotmail.com wrote: All right!! Congratulations! best, Jim Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:05:29 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Everything's PerfectI'ma touchin NOTHIN! From: angusle...@sbcglobal.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com My name is Angus and I am a tinkerer. I can't leave well enough alone. I'm constantly trying to make everything better (although it doesn't always work out that way). Nothing is perfect...everything always needs improving. Many people may think this is sad...but I've come to accept it. I'm kinda happy with it actually. Last weekend I took the 13 year old All-Rounder for a ride (the Albatross bar equipped All-Rounder is my stiff back bike) http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951387@N08/4739416729/ Something clicked...everything worked well: brakes, shifting, handling...everything. I realized I haven't had to fiddle with anything on this bike in months; nothing felt funny, shifters seemed happy with the derailleurs, brakes were easy to use, modulated well, didn't squeal and stayed centered, position was great, nothing made funny noises WHOA! This hasn't happened before. Everything's Perfect...I'ma touching NOTHIN! Angus Who dreams of one day getting his other bicycles to this level of zen like harmony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12 in SD
Beautiful terrain and beautiful bikes!! JimP Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:33:10 -0800 Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12 in SD From: cyclotour...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Hi John, it's a great route I would encourage you to take. Just be aware of the singletrack you're going to need to take at mile 20.6. It's not marked at all, so you have to be on the look out for it. That's where the hike-a-bike section begins. That's just for ~half a mile though. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5441062476/ On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:08 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: John: That would be it. Mile 29.4 is where David, Jenny I bailed out. We took the left while the rest of the group continued on the route. You can see how that connects to the outbound route around 15. We then headed back up course made a left at the intersection that's 12.7 outbound 44.7 returning. We got a total of 42 for the shorter version. Carry plenty of food water. Take a look at the posted photos. We had some high quality hike-a-bike sections. Caution: Hills may be steeper than they apperar in photos! Great ride. When do you plan to be in San Diego? I'm a bit north, Orange County, but get down there often. Maybe we could do this ride; I'm curious about the part I missed. dougP On Feb 14, 7:47 pm, John Speare johnspe...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone who went on the ride verify that this is the map for the route:http://ridewithgps.com/routes/252276 I'll be in SD in April and this sounds like a perfect day ride. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I have some photos up from my camera phone - and a write-up on the blog: http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/all-tires-welcome/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/sets/72157625919265243/ The route is worth studying for anyone planning a vacation in San Diego. Wow! Thanks, Dustin! Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Feb 13, 7:55 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Some of the most interesting roads aren't paved. And we saw some pretty interesting stuff yesterday! You're correct David; your tire was just low, not flat. dougP On Feb 13, 5:53 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That's my favorite response!!! On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I was a little worried in riding the rock gardens on the 2nd half of the ride on the Jack Brown greensDustin led us on on some pretty rough stuff... but I escaped with nary a scratch. Some hiker we passed was pretty amazed we were on that trail on road bikes. ~Mike On Feb 13, 1:45 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: How 'bout Zero flat repairs? Slow leaks that had to be topped off don't count! :-) On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:16 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Sorry I had to leave before the main group finished. That was so much fun we need to start planning the next event. Hey, everyone must have gotten the tire thing worked out: ZERO flats, right? dougP On Feb 13, 8:03 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: And once again, we've been able to have another great ride in SoCal! Yesterday we had 10 riders, which was a really good showing. Five were local to SD, the rest had to drive a couple hours to get there. The route was a combination of suburban roads, country back-roads, graded dirt roads, sections of single track, rutted and eroded hike-a-bike, seven mile uninterrupted downhills @ 30 mph, and rural country stores/used car lots. Pix to prove we were there: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/ Huge THANKS to Dustin for planning the route and hosting us at his house! A great meal of Nepalese food was waiting at the end for us!!! Good stuff! On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:16 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Jim: Same old 35 mm Marathon Supremes as before. Got a brand new set of 40s from Riv a while back but too lazy to change tires right now. Besides, the 35s still have tread showing! No worries. I think anything made in a 40 should be tough enough. In my case, I'm the weak link; the bike tires can handle things I can't. dougP On Feb 8, 2:11 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: What tires, Doug? I think I'm going Marathon Extreme 700x40. Under Silver sidepulls on Hillborne with Bullmoose! 12-36 rear cassette. I'm pretty excited. We'll see if my 1300 ft. daily climb over the past month and a half will be enough. -Jim W.
Re: [RBW] Re: Another Rivendell... which one?
Hard to explain but we take 5 dogs and luggage including astronomy gear. I just prefer to have a second bike and not carry one back and forth. Perhaps just an excuse. JimP Sent from my iPhone On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:26 AM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Pardon me, but could you help me understand why the bike wouldn't fit on a hitch or roof rack? Maybe all you need is a second set of wheels and a nice Saris hitch rack? michael On Feb 13, 10:41 am, JimP thefamil...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Sam Hillborne which I love, I ordered it with a 56 cm frame and, as it turns out, I should have ordered the 54. Even so, it rides like a dream. I have a farm located about 200 miles from home. It is difficult to carry the bike back and forth without taking two cars so, ahem... I have an excuse to buy another Rivendell. :^) To be honest I really want an A. Homer Hilson but I do realize it is very similar (functionally identical) to the Hillborne. That's OK as the two bikes will be at different locations but I should at least give thought to another type Rivendell, maybe an Atlantis, a Rodeo, Ramboulet or... What do you think? I am 60 yo and have really just gotten into cycling. At home I ride around the city just absorbing the beauty of being outdoors in a wonderful old city. I take a camera sometimes and like photographing some of the beauty (including bike) around me. But, mostly I just enjoy the ride. I usually ride for about 40 minutes to an hour and head back home. At the Farm I have access to about 3000 acres of pastures and hardwood forests with horse trails and, no trails at all. I want to explore this area with my bike again, just enjoying the scenery and being outside alone with nature. Any thoughts? best, JimP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Chief Detective Rambouillet
Ha Ha Ha!! Nice!! JimP Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:21:13 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Chief Detective Rambouillet From: cyclotour...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Fun song I just heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY8EUcfKRl0feature=related -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Another Rivendell... which one?
Whoops! I guess I was thinking Hilson when I said 54! JimP Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:52:00 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Another Rivendell... which one? From: earlg...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I'd say, given the area around your farm, get a bike that can take wider tires than the Homer. Another Sam, at least, or better yet an Atlantis, Bomba, or Hunqa. Id' say these last 3 are similar enough that you could go by price and/or paint scheme. The Sam doesn't come in a 54, just a 52, which may be too small. The others thus may fit better, too. Cheers, Gernot (Sam Hillborne) On Feb 13, 10:41 pm, JimP thefamil...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Sam Hillborne which I love, I ordered it with a 56 cm frame and, as it turns out, I should have ordered the 54. Even so, it rides like a dream. I have a farm located about 200 miles from home. It is difficult to carry the bike back and forth without taking two cars so, ahem... I have an excuse to buy another Rivendell. :^) To be honest I really want an A. Homer Hilson but I do realize it is very similar (functionally identical) to the Hillborne. That's OK as the two bikes will be at different locations but I should at least give thought to another type Rivendell, maybe an Atlantis, a Rodeo, Ramboulet or... What do you think? I am 60 yo and have really just gotten into cycling. At home I ride around the city just absorbing the beauty of being outdoors in a wonderful old city. I take a camera sometimes and like photographing some of the beauty (including bike) around me. But, mostly I just enjoy the ride. I usually ride for about 40 minutes to an hour and head back home. At the Farm I have access to about 3000 acres of pastures and hardwood forests with horse trails and, no trails at all. I want to explore this area with my bike again, just enjoying the scenery and being outside alone with nature. Any thoughts? best, JimP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Blog post about tubing for AHH
I agree Pete. I am also an amateur astronomer and mirror and lens makers stopped telling the buyer the actual wavelength coreection of their products because even though you could see no difference, people were reselling mirrors with better numbers for more money. And, that pissed the mirror makers off. So, insted of providing the numbers with each mirror they now guarantee at least X wavelength correction. Sometimes we get all caught up in numbers that in reality have no meaning. I love my sSm Hilborne and I will leave it at that. best, JimP Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:45:21 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Blog post about tubing for AHH From: petepe...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com About newenglandbike's wood analogy, I think a more accurate analogy might be that knowing the TYPE of wood is important, but knowing the BRAND is probably not. You certainly want to know your house is being built of a certain grade and species, but whether that wood comes from Weyerhauser or Georgia-Pacific makes no difference. To bring this back OT, it makes complete sense to want to know that your bike is made of good material. In Riv's case, many of us are fine with Grant's trust me, it's good. But I think many riders have a legitimate desire to know more. You may have found you like the ride of bikes with certain tubing specs (though I doubt one could discern between brands with the same specs) and as mentioned above one may have specific concerns about durability or other things. As I have said before, Riv/Grant only seem to end up creating grief for themselves when they share too much - the confusion around the multi-ethnic Sam Hillbornes being only the latest example. It goes against their pay no attention to the man behind the curtain message - find a builder you trust, trust them (it's good), and just get out and ride. Maybe Grant is the Wizard of Walnut Creek? ;-) -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks
Beautiful! Great job. JimP Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:33:59 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks From: tapebu...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Looks great Adam. Double thumbs up. On Jan 25, 11:14 pm, Ad Noyce adamab...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Thanks for the input on front racks. My setup now includes a mini front rack for the loafer and fenders: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26905387@N04/5388732538/in/photostream/ Thanks gang, Adam On Monday, January 10, 2011 9:10:43 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Tubus are indeed fine racks... My only gripe with my Tubus Logo was that the top (main) platform was very narrow, compared to the Nitto Big Rack. Anything I put on the Logo seemed tippy, and unstable. I don't understand where Tubus is coming from with this design; in fact I believe you build the rack platform to be as wide as possible without it becoming heavy or unwieldy. On Jan 10, 10:14 am, hobie moho...@yahoo.com wrote: Don't forget Tubus in stainless still. Tubus might be stronger or more rigid. On Jan 7, 1:54 am, Adam adam...@gmail.com wrote: Thought I'd use the rebate to throw on a front rack... Could anyone speak to whether the Nitto Two-Strut Top Rack is compatible with canti brakes? http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-two-strut-top-rack/20-190 I was planning to sit the small loafer up front...so then any reason I'd choose the Two-Strut, which seems to manage a good amount of weight, v. the Mini Front Rack, which handles a smaller load and has one strut? http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mini-front-nitto/20-020 Concerned about weight in the front, especially when I'm on longish rides--frequent biking in the Oakland and Berkeley hills and it can be plenty windy. Any thoughts appreciated-- Best, Adam- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Two Photos from Today's Ride 23 Jan 2011
Gorgeous Photos! Looks like a great place to reide. best, JimP Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:29:02 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Two Photos from Today's Ride 23 Jan 2011 From: richardholc...@yahoo.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Looks like you had a nice outing, cheers! On Jan 24, 12:37 am, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Rode to Portola Valley - totally like spring. Got a tuna sandwich at Roberts. Had lunch at Arastradero Preserve. enjoy:http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/ Weather karma will get us eventually. -JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Do we need a Hillborne Flickr group?
Sounds good to me! best, JimP Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:41:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [RBW] Do we need a Hillborne Flickr group? From: bkno...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I like the idea. The Hillborne's are sorta sparse on the cyclofiend pages... On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Since even the SimpleOne has a group, how about a Hillborne group? If there is interest, I am happy to set it up. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Do we need a Hillborne Flickr group?
Where is it? JimP Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:59:18 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Do we need a Hillborne Flickr group? From: petepe...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com One pic added. Orange, though, not green. On Jan 20, 11:37 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Done. Add your Sam shots to Rivendell Sam Hillborne on flickr.com. It doesn't show up yet in a group search, but hopefully will soon. Gernot On Jan 20, 9:44 pm, Norman norr...@gmail.com wrote: Or you could just have Other Rivendell Model Envy like the rest of us who can't afford to buy every one. On Jan 20, 9:23 am, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Oh gee... now I'm going to have to buy a Hillborne... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
Robert, very nicely put. I agree with everything you said. But, we won't use up all the dino fuel until long after you and I are gone. jimP Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:14:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18 From: zeidler.rob...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Living where I live in New England, cycling year round is impractical, plus for my business, I have to be places, sometimes from Boston, to Hartford, to Brattlebor all in the same day. To that end, I needed to able to carry things, people, plow my driveway when needed etc., So I dive a 4 dr Dodge diesel pick-up. Earlier in it's life I was able to buy B100 (pure veg diesel fuel), and in colder whether, down to around 30 deg, I'd run B-20 (20% of same). Below that only traeted fuel will work w/o the dreaded gelling that occurs. A funny thing started coming to my attention. Every time the price of dino diesel went up, Bio-fuels went up so they were always slightly higher. When I asked why, my Bio-fuel dealer told me that the state Dept of Consumer Protection (or whomever) had mandated this so that bio-fuels didn't get a competitive advantage(!). I gave up at that point. I commute (35 miles one-way) when I can, drive when I need to and do what's necessary to make a living. I've spent time in Evanston IL, just off the Red Line (I think) and never drove anywhere, even caught the train out to O'hare. Pretty nice but that will never, ever happen in this day of NIMBY. People won't allow it. But if not for that system, those residents would be driving also, without a doubt. As stated in another thread, I'm hoping I see the day when there is no more fuel oil, coal etc., available-use it all up as fast as you can, be glutenous in your consumption. We'll then get nukes, and everything will be electric. Without those reliable sources of power, which solar/wind will never provide, we re screwed anyway. That goes for the rest of the world. Nobody in a developing country thinks about 50 years down the road, that's a luxury we have in the U.S., Europe, etc. BTW, the reason the Euro's can put money into bike lanes, alt trans projects, etc., is because they don't have much of a defense budget-we do that for them!!! Think about it, U.S. bases all over Europe, and trust me, the governments want us there to do that heavy lifting. Lastly, so there is no confusion, I respect the gentleman's right to follow his conscience. He is free and right to do so, as long as what he does, does not pee in the water upstream from where others drink. Sorry, a bit long. RGZ On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:51 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Liked the editorial, but disagree with one of GP's points. I gave up cars completely and flying for all but work and emergencies 6 years ago because they are such wasteful modes of transit. To me it is a green choice. I realize my actions mean very little with most here in Chicago wtill in cars and O'Hare handling so much unnecessary flying. I believe my choices are the correct ones. So I follow my conscious, whether it fixes the planet or not. On Jan 19, 7:26 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, that's a good read.Cars and bikes both are vehicles, in the same way that a Glock and a Squirtgun are both guns is a kind of potent analogy right now, however imprecise analogies may be. The point about bicycle culture/laws in Holland, and the reasonability of incentives for commuting in a safe, non-polluting manner is something that's resonated with me for a long time. Sometimes I long to move to a place like that, but then I wonder why shouldn't I just try to be be more active in trying to help change happen here, which i'm woefully not and just riding a bike doesn't really do anything. It seems futile riding a bike for 'green' reasons, or because you think it's right thing to do-- even if you do it for those reasons-- and it's easy to end up suppressing frustration at the status quo, but reading stuff like this always brings it back to the surface, which is probably a good thing.um I doubt that makes any sense. which means it's probably too early for me to be typing right now. yesterday's ride home west of boston was a slush-ice nightmare. Thank god for studded tires but even they were out of their league. we were expecting some weather, but if i knew it would be that bad I would've stayed home. On Jan 18, 7:23 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: There's an interesting editorial on rivbike right now about how bikes aren't the same as cars. It reminds me of something I often remember when teaching students: the idea that doing what's right and fair for a kid is sometimes not the same thing for any two given kids. -Jim W.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this
RE: [RBW] Today's Ride
Beautiful pics!! best, JimP From: orthie...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:16:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [RBW] Today's Ride To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Very nice pictures! I've always wanted to ride that bridge but have never figured out how to get there from Palo Alto. Nice bike too! René Sent from my iPhone 4 On Jan 16, 2011, at 10:03 PM, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Took a spin through Cupertino to stop for coffee and then back home. Some photos are here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/sets/72157604146015375/ Many time riding my bike reminds me of skiing groomed cruisers.Can't beat it.JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: widest tire on a Sam?
Yes, I had Fat Franks on my Sam but when I decided to add fenders I had to go with Delta Cruisers and the Fat boy was just too fat! best, JimP Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:34:35 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: widest tire on a Sam? From: earlg...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Andrew, the Sam with fenders is not sporting Fat Franks, but Delta Cruisers, which are skinnier (don't know how skinny). But the Fat Franks do fit without fenders: http://www.flickr.com/photos/56694464@N02/5314463096/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/56694464@N02/5314502412/in/photostream/ Gernot On Jan 16, 2:08 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for info, Gernot! Really really tempted to order up some 29 x 2.0 Fat Franks and have a go at it now :) Andrew On Jan 15, 2011, at 10:51 PM, Earl Grey wrote: Here is a later side pull Sam with Fat Franks and aluminum fenders! http://www.flickr.com/photos/56694464@N02/5339491448/in/photostream/l... (Search archives for Pics of new Samuel Hillborne for the corresponding thread.) I have an early 56cm Sam with 3 dot fork and recently tried putting on 52mm VO aluminum fenders, and they fit fine, requiring just a tad of squeezing at the chainstay bridge. Since the 50mm Big Apples actually run 44.5mm (photo on rivbike.com), and given the photo above, I would guess that the 50mm Fat Franks will fit, but haven't tried it myself. Gernot On Jan 16, 6:08 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: hi folks, i have what i believe is an early Sam, e.g. orange with 3-dot fork. trying to figure out what the widest tire i can squeeze in there... would love to go up from 40mm Mara Sups to a Fat Frank, but doubt a 2 will actually fit.. not concerned about fenders (i live in Los Angeles). anyone else have the same dot-forked Sam who has stuffed über-fats in there? thanks, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] An Attempt To Temper Winter Blahs
Great Pics Jim! Beautiful Bike and the Pandas are terrific! best, JimP From: rasterd...@comcast.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] An Attempt To Temper Winter Blahs Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:24:59 -0800 Now that we have entered the realm of discussing chain lubrication we must be in the dreariest days of winter. Here's my small effort to try to leaven this. Two pictures from this summer's Oregon Bike Ride: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/5364940246/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/5364326099/ And just to keep the wheel of karma in balance (now that I sorta know what panda is about)here are a couple of scary ones: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/5364941906/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/5364941040/in/photostream/ Please don't tell my mom about these.-JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: widest tire on a Sam?
They are 43mm Honjo hammered fenders. No bendy tricks at all. I don't know anything about the GB Hetres. best, JimP Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:44:04 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: widest tire on a Sam? From: jeff...@lightsideps.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Hi Jim, What size fenders are those and: did you have to do any bendy tricks around the chain stays? Any idea of a fatness comparison between the Delta Cruisers and the GB Hetres? I'm trying to figure out if a 54/Saluki will take Hetres and fenders and still have reasonable clearance for kicked up pebbles and the like ... thanks/jsk On Jan 17, 9:40 am, jim phillips thefamil...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes, I had Fat Franks on my Sam but when I decided to add fenders I had to go with Delta Cruisers and the Fat boy was just too fat! best, JimP Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:34:35 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: widest tire on a Sam? From: earlg...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Andrew, the Sam with fenders is not sporting Fat Franks, but Delta Cruisers, which are skinnier (don't know how skinny). But the Fat Franks do fit without fenders: http://www.flickr.com/photos/56694464@N02/5314463096/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/56694464@N02/5314502412/in/photostream/ Gernot On Jan 16, 2:08 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for info, Gernot! Really really tempted to order up some 29 x 2.0 Fat Franks and have a go at it now :) Andrew On Jan 15, 2011, at 10:51 PM, Earl Grey wrote: Here is a later side pull Sam with Fat Franks and aluminum fenders! http://www.flickr.com/photos/56694464@N02/5339491448/in/photostream/l... (Search archives for Pics of new Samuel Hillborne for the corresponding thread.) I have an early 56cm Sam with 3 dot fork and recently tried putting on 52mm VO aluminum fenders, and they fit fine, requiring just a tad of squeezing at the chainstay bridge. Since the 50mm Big Apples actually run 44.5mm (photo on rivbike.com), and given the photo above, I would guess that the 50mm Fat Franks will fit, but haven't tried it myself. Gernot On Jan 16, 6:08 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: hi folks, i have what i believe is an early Sam, e.g. orange with 3-dot fork. trying to figure out what the widest tire i can squeeze in there... would love to go up from 40mm Mara Sups to a Fat Frank, but doubt a 2 will actually fit.. not concerned about fenders (i live in Los Angeles). anyone else have the same dot-forked Sam who has stuffed über-fats in there? thanks, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? That is how I am transporting my Sam Hillborne (aka Crazy Horse). Is there a downside to that? best, JimP Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike? From: t...@cox.net Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:02:56 -0500 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I have a Honda Element too and I think it is ideal for a bike and gear carrier. I use fork holders mounted on pieces of old Trex decking to lower the bikes to make easy entrance to rear hatch. As an exercise I managed to fit four bikes alternating front ends and back ends but three is more practical (this is with both seats removed). As to comfort, I have made two trips to the mountains of Colorado from Cleveland with my element which were ok sitting in the front seat. I made a trip to North Carolina with four guys in the car where I got to sit in the back which was annoying with the rear seat theater seating. However, on all those trips the mpg was right around 30 mpg on the interstates. On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram vertically inside The Toaster. I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is easy to clean up. I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. Angus On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front seat comfort too. Thanks for your insight (no pun). Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: j4gitr jstoes...@comcast.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and the Katy trail with my 6'4 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever owned. I'm 6'6 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been driving it for 4 years now. On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: What Makes the Rivendell
Well put guys! Very nice. best, JimP Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:34:02 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: What Makes the Rivendell From: willh...@yahoo.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com On Jan 10, 12:38 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that if you follow Riv's sizing guidelines and part suggestions, then the bike will tempt you to stop and smell the roses - to ramble and amble and enjoy the scenery. This is the case with my 650B Nobilette-built Protovelo. ^ This ^ for me this is largely what I couldn't put into words earlier. I have been one of those 'ride as fast as you can' and 'impress buddies with fancy gear' types in the past. I took several years off of serious riding, then picked up my Bombadil. I have been converted. im no longer in a big hurry and am now focused on looking around, smelling the roses, enjoying the ride and trying my best not be a nuisance to those around me. I guess I really drank the Rivendell koolaid, and am happier and having more fun than I have ever had that I can remember since being a kid. Slowing down and accepting that im not a racer dude was key. Thanks GP. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: What Makes the Rivendell
That seems so odd to me but to each his own. I cannot say enough good things about my Sam Hillborne which I have named Crazy Horse. In terms of bicycle riding there seems to be nothing Crazy Horse cannot do. The limiting factor is always me! best, JimP Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 05:52:33 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: What Makes the Rivendell From: ericpl...@aol.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Guess that means I have never qualified, as have never been able to pass another rider. Strangely enough, been finding more and more that my Rivendell is the most limited (and limiting) bike. Maybe it's time to move on. Somebody is probably going to get a good deal on a built up Sam Hillborne soon. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jan 10, 6:45 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Well this is the Riv Owners Group what better place to be snarky? I say Snark on.. we aren't that thin skinned. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Riding around the City
I had to remove the Fat Franks and replace them with Schwalbe Delta Cruisers in order to get the fenders to fit. Jim Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:18:24 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Riding around the City From: grrlyr...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Beautiful photos as usual Jim. I love the look of the prison. We don't have that many buildings that old here, unless they are missions. How did you get those 50mm fat franks on the Creamcicle Sam with fenders? I thought 42 mm was the max. Do you think Betty can take 50 mm's too? Ness On Jan 9, 2:11 pm, jim phillips thefamil...@hotmail.com wrote: Charleston, SC Yes, the weather has not been extreme. Subject: Re: [RBW] Riding around the City From: zeidler.rob...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 15:19:33 -0500 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Looks warm(er). Where is this? Sent from my iPad On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:50 AM, JimP thefamil...@gmail.com wrote: Once again I posted my images backwards. If you go in 13 pics to the first one of the city jail and then click on 12, 11, 10... that is the way I traveled. The old city jail, where you could be imprisoned for not paying debt (insuring you would never get out). The gallows was out back and, believe it or not, the Medical School was located next to the gallows area.! Yes, unclaimed bodies of executed prisoners ended up at the Medical School... Making our escape Sam aka Crazy Horse and I headed down by the river for some fresh air. Nice day biking!! best, JimP http://www.flickr.com/photos/56694...@n02/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Riding around the City
Charleston, SC Yes, the weather has not been extreme. Subject: Re: [RBW] Riding around the City From: zeidler.rob...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 15:19:33 -0500 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Looks warm(er). Where is this? Sent from my iPad On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:50 AM, JimP thefamil...@gmail.com wrote: Once again I posted my images backwards. If you go in 13 pics to the first one of the city jail and then click on 12, 11, 10... that is the way I traveled. The old city jail, where you could be imprisoned for not paying debt (insuring you would never get out). The gallows was out back and, believe it or not, the Medical School was located next to the gallows area.! Yes, unclaimed bodies of executed prisoners ended up at the Medical School... Making our escape Sam aka Crazy Horse and I headed down by the river for some fresh air. Nice day biking!! best, JimP http://www.flickr.com/photos/56694...@n02/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Fender mounted battery powered taillight suggestions?
I use a pair of Cateye lights which mount on the metal stay. Very easy to mount. No concern with scratching the paint. best, JimP Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:01:43 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Fender mounted battery powered taillight suggestions? From: ryansub...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com After commuting home in the dark and rain this evening (Seattle) it occurred to me that, even with a nice Princeton-tech swerve n the seat stay and modest tail pack and back of helmet tail lights, a nice bright rear fender mounted tail light would not be a bad idea. I like the look of the PDW Radbot 1000 but it doesn't specify a fender mount option. Anybody have suggestions on a good battery powered fender mounted tail light I can slap on my (metal) fender? Thanks Ryan West Seattle PS Thank goodness for wool on wet nights! and lil' loafer rain covers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: What Makes the Rivendell
Rivendell bicycles are special for many reasons. Grant is Not a frame maker. He is a designer. Over many years of trial and error maybe even with a bit of luck or, better yet, magic, he came upon a design that really works and works wonderfully. Then, he searched to find the best frame makers to follow his design to the smallest nitpicking point. His frames are made for Rivendell Just as he designed them. best, JimP Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:45:53 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: What Makes the Rivendell From: willh...@yahoo.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com The magician never shares his secrets its a mystery that should never be put into exact words or it will be diluted. I think in the industry they call it brand mystique it is what I love about Rivendell. On Jan 7, 12:06 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: As a new owner and new to this style of riding. This style of riding being larger tires, more upright position, more comfort oriented. My question is what makes the Rivendell Bike Different. I notice that even with Custom builds that Tire Clearance is less than. Full tour bikes that will only run 700x35 with fenders. I have two.. a FUJI Tour and a Giant OCR Tour. This is my Giant http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/5179941844/in/set-721576252104... It's my uninformed opinion that the lower bottom bracket appears to be unique or rare compared.. does this cotribute to the ride. I notice my Riv's feel quicker (even if they aren't) than my other bikes of similar weight. I seem to have a more comfortable ride which I attribute to the steal and fit etc. So even though I read that LHT's are great and we can use this or that I haven't found that to be true. My Giant OCR has been a good friend on tours, but it doesn't have the same feel as my Bombadil. (I do admit to liking and missing my disc brakes= only when stopping-minor detail) Anyway right or wrong I've found myself looking at bikes and seeing that it's not just steel or a leather saddle or bags that is Riv'ish .. it's not some cult of practicality even. But as a package of geometry (I am dumber than box of rocks on that subject) size and style combined that make the rivendell bike. If I got the same ride quality and handling and feel from an LHT or a Gunner at 500 bucks I'ld go there, but I don't .. this could be because I'm 6'5 tall or it could be I'm delusional. What makes the Rivendell Different.. how does one explain that difference to those that just see a steel antique looking bke? Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Saddle comparison - Brooks B17 vs. Berthoud Touring
My question is, put delicately, how many, if any. like the Berthoud because it is French, and, how many dislike it because it is French. Anyone? JimP Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:10:11 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Saddle comparison - Brooks B17 vs. Berthoud Touring From: leec...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Joel and Clayton: I noticed that the rails appear a bit narrower on the Berthoud Aspin than on a B-17. Did you have to force the rails out a little to get it to fit your seatpost clamp? What seatposts have you tried with the Apsin? Thanks, Lee San Francisco, CA On Jan 7, 9:42 am, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using b.17s for while, but got frustrated when I burnt through my last one in 7 months and went ahead and purchased a Berthoud touring saddle. I have only been using it for 2 months now but so far so good. It is a little narrower than a b.17 but not in a bad way. Still has enough room accommodate my sitbones. The shape seems perfect for me. The craftsmanship is stunning compared to Brooks. Compared to the now incredibly saggy brooks it does feel a lot firmer. I did ride a 200k permanent within a few weeks of owning it and toward the end I did have to ride out of the saddle occasionally to give my slightly protesting sitbones some relief. It was not agonizing and only started setting in during the last few miles but was noticeable and distracting nevertheless. (Still significantly better than having the metal frame of the b.17 dig into me though.). So far the Berthoud is perfect for up to a 100 miles and I expect it to get even more comfortable as the saddle and I get more used to eachother. I purchased mine from Rene Herse Bicycles who lets you try the saddle for 60 days and return it if you don't like it. I suggest you give it try. Best, Clayton Scott SF, CA On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:29 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I had an Ideale when it was new and it wasn't as comfortable and didn't work as well as a B.17. It was one of those with the integral wide aluminum rails and the built-in micro-adjusting clamp. My favorite Ideales are the 4 and 6 (the lightly sprung city saddles). I think the aluminum frame Ideale used made for a more comfortable spring base than the heavier Brooks. Unfortunately, the leather is somewhat thin on them and they tend to need frequent tightening. Wonder if Berthoud will ever try and copy that model? On Jan 7, 10:29 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 08:12 -0800, JoelMatthews wrote: Unless you have an Ideale that has been well maintained - or stored in optimal conditions - it is not going to be as comfortable, work as well, or last as long as a modern Brooks or Berthoud. I had an Ideale when it was new and it wasn't as comfortable and didn't work as well as a B.17. It was one of those with the integral wide aluminum rails and the built-in micro-adjusting clamp. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] My First Off Road ride on my new Sam Hillborne
Upstate South Carolina. Lots of fun. I just need to keep at it and get in better shape! JimP Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:15:57 -0600 Subject: Re: [RBW] My First Off Road ride on my new Sam Hillborne From: zeidler.rob...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Where were these taken? Looks New England-y but w/o the snow. On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:57 PM, JimP thefamil...@gmail.com wrote: Here are pics but they are just backwards! If you start at pic 51 then go to 50, 49, 48... that is the way I road, starting at Cemetery Rd ending at the house then a few extra. http://www.flickr.com/photos/56694...@n02/ JimP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: My First Off Road ride on my new Sam Hillborne
Thanks Ness for your kind words. Much appreciated! best, JimP Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:08:04 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: My First Off Road ride on my new Sam Hillborne From: grrlyr...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Great ride report! Love your writing, scenery and especially your creamsicle Hillborne. It reminds me of Club Fed behind my mom's house in northern Santa Barbara County. The prisoners run a dairy farm. It has pine trees because it's borders Los Padres Nat'l forest. Your ride inspired me to check out that area on bike. I've only hiked it before. Thanks for the gorgeous pics. Ness -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Roadeo Ride, New Year's Eve
Beautiful! Congratulations on your ride and thanks for sharing the pics! I went on my first off road ride on my new Sam Hillborne today. I only covered about three miles or so through hardwoods, bottoms and a couple creeks. But, I did prove to myself I can do it. I will post pics and a small write up about it later. best, JimP Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:12:50 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Roadeo Ride, New Year's Eve From: be...@perrylaw.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Two Old Freds having a time. A few nice shots of the Roadeo on a beautiful ride. The more I ride this frame, the more it seems almost perfect. I worked hard on thehills today - - as you can see from the pics, your author is not a small lad - - and the bike was comfy, solid, and happy. Can't say enough good about this bicycle. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563...@n06/sets/72157625591313441/?photo_deleted=5310472393 Ride details here: not too far, but about 3500' of climb: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/61335075 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: 64 cm Bombadil Arrived!
Beautiful bicycle and you look quite dapper yourself! Great pics. Thanks very much!! Congratulations! best, JimP Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 20:34:27 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: 64 cm Bombadil Arrived! From: dougpn...@cox.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Kelly: It's always so much fun when someone takes the time to photo their new Rivendell as they unpack it. They look almost as good in the bubble wrap as they do assembled. Thanks for posting. Great job to get a new bike that's so versatile you can take it right out in the snow! Gotta love those plump tires. dougP On Dec 28, 8:18 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Well it seems like forever, but in reality it was very quick in arriving. Even hasd a Christmas Tree and Candy Cane drawn on the box. The bike went together flawlessly and the first ride was great. The Albatross bars are going to take some getting used to I think. The basket and grocery bag are great .. which was actually suprising to me. The more I look and read I'm seriously looking at the E3 symetrical light now instead of the Edulux like I have on my ahh. Still hate the tail light but more light out front sure seems like the way to go. Got the 700x50 big apples instead of the fat franks because I was worried about dirt... started out with 55 psi, think I'll be dropping that slightly. I had just put an xt reat derailur on the ahh standard, the Bombadil came with rapid rise. Time to switch one of them. Having them different will drive me nuttier than I already am. Weather and this head cold clear up a bit tomorrow see how it does on a 40ish mile meander. Here are some pics from the unboxing. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157625693997926/ Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Riv Ride Chiang Mai 12-27-10
Beautiul! Very nice looking area. best, JimP Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 05:07:56 -0800 From: earlg...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Riv Ride Chiang Mai 12-27-10 First time we've had 3 Rivendells on a ride. Did my favorite loop that is about half dirt, time-wise. A few photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/ Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Happy Holidays!
Good Luck with your ride!! Rainy and 37 here. I did get out on my new Sam Hillborne yesterday and had a nice ride around the city. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to All!! best, JimP Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 06:07:16 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Happy Holidays! From: ericpl...@aol.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Only a short ride yesterday. Lots of other things on the plate (figuratively and literally). Additionally, the snow and ice covered roads aren't calling right now. The ride was not on my Sam Hillborne. Highlight was stopping and conversing with a friend who was trying to clear ice/snow off his roof. Hopefully can get a ride in this afternoon. The city came by and scraped the streets last night. Might be tolerable riding today. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Dec 25, 10:50 am, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all !!! In between cooking and cleaning, I jumped on my Bombadil just after dark, for a quick loop through the park. There wasn't a soul to be found... Temps were in the high 20s, with a little bit of wind... As I was rolling down the path at rather high speed, I must have spooked a few deer on my left...I couldn't see them, but I could hear them break into a run and running alongside me... Deer love running out in front of headlights in my town, so I braced for a collision... One blazed across my front wheel, and I could feel another one brush just past my rear wheel WHEW!!... Close call scared the daylights out of me. I didn't see if they were reindeer... good thing... If the fat man in red was attached to them, it would have gotten rather ugly!!! I WILL get in a nice ride today, for sure... Happy New Year. BB On Dec 25, 7:41 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Same to you Angus! In fact, Merry Christmas to all who observe it, and warm well wishes to all regardless. My Ram and Joe's Sam went out yesterday with 5 friends for a Christmas Eve day ride. A bit chilly, but sunny and calm air, and we enjoyed 45 miles +/- with some steep climbing tossed in to remind us not to neglect hills over the Winter if we hope to ride them in the Spring. Joe says he thinks his Maxy Fastys are faster than the Pari-Motos his bike came with. I disagree but he has declined my offers to trade him unused sets of M-F or Cypres tires for that pair of P-Ms... Rain is expected today, but if it holds off, I'll go a few miles in the afternoon. Tailwinds! Bruce From: Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, December 25, 2010 6:30:41 AM Subject: [RBW] Happy Holidays! Happy Holidays everyone! Hope y'all get some time to ride (or play with) your Rivendell today. Angus Who takes a short Christmas afternoon bike ride each year- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Tan Sidewalls - Rain Problems
I agree. I love my cream Fat Franks but I'm not spending any time trying to keep them cream. They either are or they're not. Going, Going, Gone... Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 14:08:31 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Tan Sidewalls - Rain Problems From: garth...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Yeah, I resisted all black tires for years. Now, I love 'em. Carefree. It's like a lot of parts on the bike I never see while riding. . . and frankly, I look at the bike while not riding for maybe 10 seconds a day. I'd say other than a simple wash, applying coatings and such may be asking for a problem that never existed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] PICS of different new Sam
Hi Norman, Now that is one Gorgeous bicycle!! Beautiful!! best, JimP Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:21:31 -0800 Subject: [RBW] PICS of different new Sam From: norr...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I also received a new Sam (52) last week and put it together and rode it for the first time on Sunday. It was a short ride but it is a huge improvement over anything I've ridden before. Things are a little hectic and cold right now but I'm looking forward to going all out with it. On the other hand, I sort of want to keep it in its pristine condition for a little while. I have Grand Bois Hetre 42mm tires (it's a 650B) and am thinking about getting VO 52 Zeppelin polished fenders. The bar tape was not my first choice but Newbaum grey was out. I've got some mixed reaction on the color combo but I more like it than not. It should make the bike stand out at the Riv Ride East in May. The color of the bike is closer to green (it's the Atlantic green) than the blue it sometimes appears in these photos. It is a great color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/norro/sets/72157625647582676/. Hope the link works. Norman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Building up a new Roadeo
Beautiful Rivendell. The racing green is perfect! best, JimP Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 19:33:40 -0800 From: elphk...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Building up a new Roadeo Hey all, I've been lurking for a while and it seems like today is the day that everyone posts their new build / bike so I decided to follow suit. My family and I stopped by the RBWHQ this afternoon and picked up my new Roadeo frame. http://www.flickr.com/photos/noryia/sets/72157625627580084/ 55cm Roadeo in British Racing Green with SS couplers I am building it up with mostly Ultegra level components and some 105. I am waiting for the rest of the parts to arrive next week and I'll update the set on Flickr as it gets built. Wife rode a 58 Betty Foy and was really enjoying it. Guess I need to start saving up for a new frame. List of components for those who are interested : Shifters / Brake Levers : Shimano ST-R700 Brakes Calipers : Tektro R538 Stem : Nitto Technomic Deluxe Handlebars : Nitto Noodle Bar 46cm Front Der : Shimano Ultegra FD-6700 Rear Der : Shimano Ultegra RD-6700 Crank set : Shimano FC-R600 Cassette : Shimano Ultegra 11-28 10s Stem : Old Campagnola Stem until I buy something else suitable. Seat : Brooks B17 Champion Special : British Racing Green w/ Copper rails Wheel set : 105 10s with Alex R400 rims until I build up something better. Tires : Continental Gatorskins 700cx23 until I build up the wheels and put some Jack Browns on it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: A blinding glimpse of the obvious......
It seems like he did the best he could to be unbiased. I cannot imagine doing this starting out with a particular result in mind. I think the results are valid. Jim Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 07:15:01 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: A blinding glimpse of the obvious.. From: mkah...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Do you think some unintentional bias was causing him to ride harder on the steel bike in order to keep the same time? If so, it was remarkably consistent over the course of 56 rides and nearly 1500 miles. Commuting with stop signs would give the lighter bike an even bigger advantage than in sporting riding/racing as you would have 0-25 mph acceleratons instead of 20-25 mph accelerations. If carrying an extra five pounds of luggage on both the commuter bike and the racing bike makes the racing bike advantage moot; what does that say about plopping a 150 lb rider into the saddle? Moot x 30? Michael Kahrl On Dec 14, 9:20 am, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: The article leaves many unanswered questions. How much did he carry on his commute, how often did he need to stop, were there hills to climb, did he monitor his efforts by heart rate to screen out unintentional bias, was he trying to ride to the same perceived effort or the same speed? What tires were on each bike? The upshot is that lightweight bicycles are in their element in sporting riding/racing where weight can make some difference, not commuting where stop signs and luggage make a couple of pounds on the frame moot. Different horses for different courses. Bill On Dec 14, 3:27 am, George Millwood george.millw...@bigpond.com wrote: It is so nice when scientists use their lesiure time to enlighten the public http://www.smh.com.au/executive-style/fitness/in-cycling-its-a-case-o... In our case it is preaching to the converted but it is still nice to see it in print. George Millwood Atlantis No 93 Wollongong Australia Yes, I have left the great metropolis of Sydney and relocated to the coastal city of Wollongong. This is the steel making heart of Australia but thanks to closed hearth furnaces it is now but a different skyline. I now live one and a half blocks from a couple of glorious beaches and enjoy a coastal cyclepath that gently winds along the cost past rockpools, the aforementioned steelworks and golden sands that stretch for miles. You can look it up on Google Maps.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] 'Round the Mountain Ride 12-12-10 - a set on Flickr
Amazing pics! Gorgeous scenery. JimP From: campyonly...@me.com Subject: [RBW] 'Round the Mountain Ride 12-12-10 - a set on Flickr Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 13:17:04 -0800 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Today's wool/leather/lugged steel ride led us to the Napa County backcountry: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625459118305/with/5254975711/ --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Brave, Foolish, or maybe necessary?
I have great admiration for all of you who can ride in those kinds of conditions. But, I do feel that safety has to always be an over riding consideration. best, JimP Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:13:26 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Brave, Foolish, or maybe necessary? From: joelmatth...@mac.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I do not have a car, so am often tempted to ride the bike when and where conditions are less than optimal. Over the years I have had enough close calls that when things get really bad I either take mass transit, a taxi, walk or stay put. I want to enjoy cycling, not endure. On Dec 10, 7:00 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I live in northern Vt, one ride below the 45th parallel. I'm 6 miles down the road to the nearest shops and services. Sunset, this time of year is around 4:30 and until the big lakes freeze over, the weather tends to be cloudy and snowy. With the moon in its last quarter its very dark, very early. It has snowed slowly and steadily through the week, leaving about 15 of snow cover and the road shoulders with an inch or two of packed and loose snow. The skies started to clear a bit yesterday and the temps dropped , +14 at sundown and -10 by sunrise this morning. I headed into town at 5:00, in my car and drove down an unlit country road, passing a nearly steady stream of commuters headed home up the road. Suddenly I saw a very bright bicycle light coming up the road. As I passed him (her?) I saw that the tail light was just avg. My first thought was, wow that takes some guts, but my second thought was that's more risk than I would ever want to take on a bicycle, and my third thought was I don't mind riding in the dark; I don't mind riding in the cold; and I don't mind riding in the wet. But that much cold, dark, wet and risk all at the same time is something I wouldn't choose to do, unless it was absolutely necessary. What do you think? Michael on a gloriously beautiful morning -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?
Yes, color primarily :^) Luckily the Hillborne only comes in one standard color now. After seeing Velouria's Sam on her blog Lovely Bicycles I knew I wanted one. The Roadeo does seem to be different in that it is primarily made for speed and, who can resist a Homer? Gorgeous blue! I guess it's OK to own more than one Rivendell and I can see I am headed that way! best, Jim Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 23:37:43 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike? From: allan_f...@aracnet.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I know I said not to tell, but was the color what settled it for you? :-) Price sure is nice. Enjoy! -Allan On Dec 8, 2:08 pm, jim phillips thefamil...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks guys! I have the answer! I am getting the bikes in the following order: Sam Hillborne A.Homer Hilson Roadeo Atlantis After that ... Thanks again! best, JimP Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:57:52 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike? From: montclairbob...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com ...Make it easy-just get one of each! ... THAT is the best answer so far Actually, this would make for a nice test... Assemble a blue ribbon panel of riders (of varying size and weights, riding preferences and styles), each performing a comparison ride of all the Rivs while testing them over the varied terrain at JimP's place (hope it's no imposition, Jim...). Each rider would ride each bike over the same course and do a write up of each ride; not to declare one better than the other; rather to describe the ride characteristics of each. Maybe we'll attempt a less-formal version of this at Riv Rally East in May... BB On Dec 8, 4:13 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Make it easy-just get one of each! On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael DiBenedetto climbthem...@gmail.comwrote: Alan- Great insights- After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what I did - chose the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not trying to figure out the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs. Thanks Michael D. Walnut Creek Michael DiBenedetto www.lifeforcemassage.com 3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C Lafayette, CA. 94549 925-899-2785 On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote: Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and weight (both yours and gear) are the others. And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in weight or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you wouldn't be asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do admirably. When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color, just don't tell any of the folks here that. :-) The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that think they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet split hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's not a difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us systemizer- maximizer types can get carried away. Best, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib �...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib �...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from
RE: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?
Thanks guys! I have the answer! I am getting the bikes in the following order: Sam Hillborne A.Homer Hilson Roadeo Atlantis After that ... Thanks again! best, JimP Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:57:52 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike? From: montclairbob...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com ...Make it easy-just get one of each! ... THAT is the best answer so far Actually, this would make for a nice test... Assemble a blue ribbon panel of riders (of varying size and weights, riding preferences and styles), each performing a comparison ride of all the Rivs while testing them over the varied terrain at JimP's place (hope it's no imposition, Jim...). Each rider would ride each bike over the same course and do a write up of each ride; not to declare one better than the other; rather to describe the ride characteristics of each. Maybe we'll attempt a less-formal version of this at Riv Rally East in May... BB On Dec 8, 4:13 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Make it easy-just get one of each! On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael DiBenedetto climbthem...@gmail.comwrote: Alan- Great insights- After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what I did - chose the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not trying to figure out the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs. Thanks Michael D. Walnut Creek Michael DiBenedetto www.lifeforcemassage.com 3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C Lafayette, CA. 94549 925-899-2785 On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote: Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and weight (both yours and gear) are the others. And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in weight or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you wouldn't be asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do admirably. When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color, just don't tell any of the folks here that. :-) The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that think they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet split hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's not a difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us systemizer- maximizer types can get carried away. Best, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
