Re: [RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[Hugh Smitham]

Ah ha. Thanks Chris.

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> The black portion is a regular straight 1" quill stem and the top of it is
> sized to fit a modern 1 1/8" threadless stem, which is what the silver
> portion is.   Dimension makes this one.
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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The black portion is a regular straight 1" quill stem and the top of it is 
sized to fit a modern 1 1/8" threadless stem, which is what the silver 
portion is.   Dimension makes this one.
 


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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[drew]

nice find! and yes, what is going on with that stem?

while this thread has been revived, ill re-up my sale of a 1984 trek 890. 
bought this for my wife to pair with the 870 in the OP, but she didnt want 
a third bike... who knew.
its got a lot of cool features like a lowish bb and reynolds 501 tubing. 
clearances arent as extreme. maxes out at about 26x1.9.  47cm frame that 
someone should have and ride. it has new tires, bars, cables, housing, 
pedals, etc. paint is in pretty good shape too. 300$ + shipping.


 

 





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Re: [RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[Antonioni Vicente]

"Berry Red"

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> On Dec 1, 2016, at 9:21 AM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
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> That's an interesting steerer tube/stem set up. Is that a 1" threadless 
> steerer?
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> Great color.
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> ~Hugh
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>> I finally got one!!  1984 Trek 830 frameset.  Probably the only original 
>> component I'll use is the headset, and maybe the BB and crankset.  If I ever 
>> buy a Riv from RBW, I want it close to this color.  
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Re: [RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[Hugh Smitham]

That's an interesting steerer tube/stem set up. Is that a 1" threadless
steerer?

Great color.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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> I finally got one!!  1984 Trek 830 frameset.  Probably the only original
> component I'll use is the headset, and maybe the BB and crankset.  If I
> ever buy a Riv from RBW, I want it close to this color.
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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I finally got one!!  1984 Trek 830 frameset.  Probably the only original 
component I'll use is the headset, and maybe the BB and crankset.  If I 
ever buy a Riv from RBW, I want it close to this color.  









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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[drew]

no, i was gonna try to match, but couldnt justify spending that kind of 
money. its a standard powdercoat color. 

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

['Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Your Trek 830 looks perfect, glad to see someone else still uses Biopace. I 
love them. Is this an original Trek color?

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks!  I purchased a 1984 Trek 830 frameset that I'm working on building 
up and if I really enjoy the bike, I'll have new set of wheels built and I 
am considering having it cold set to 130mm.  It's good to hear about three 
old Treks that have been problem free.  




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> i posted about a 30$ trek 870 frame/fork i found earlier this year HERE 
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> boredom, and the fact that ive never been able to abide a true beater, 
> turned it into a project that was helped out by several people in the group 
> who supplied parts, so i figured i'd share how it turned out. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[drew]

Yeah, I think I just opened them up by hand to fit a 130mm in.  It's only 2mm 
wider on each side

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[Antonioni Vicente]

my girlfriend and i have matching '83 850's.  I've had mine respaced to
130, hers to 135.  we've ridden these bikes hard and have had no problems,
whatsoever.  additionally, we both had the beefy chainstays crimped for
extra clearance.  again- no problems at all.

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> Did you have your Trek cold set to 130mm or 135mm?   Has the cold set been
> problem free?
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> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 10:59:09 PM UTC-6, drew wrote:
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>> well, the parts situation was very much helped by having a 7/8th built 89
>> rockhopper who sacrificed itself for this build. transferring the parts
>> didnt take much time, and the powdercoat was done in less than a week. i
>> had the frame realigned by an older bike shop which had a park tool table
>> in the back. they had to uncover it from a mountain of boxes and other
>> things that had accumulated since the last time anyone asked them to
>> realign a steel frame.  took a bit of cold setting, but the mechanic didnt
>> seem worried he also didnt seem to understand why i wanted him to
>> realign a super rough old trek mtb. oh well.
>>
>> and george, money invested aside, that rockhopper you built will probably
>> last a lifetime. i wouldve lost my mind if i ever had a bike that nice as a
>> kid.
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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Did you have your Trek cold set to 130mm or 135mm?   Has the cold set been 
problem free?   



On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 10:59:09 PM UTC-6, drew wrote:
>
> well, the parts situation was very much helped by having a 7/8th built 89 
> rockhopper who sacrificed itself for this build. transferring the parts 
> didnt take much time, and the powdercoat was done in less than a week. i 
> had the frame realigned by an older bike shop which had a park tool table 
> in the back. they had to uncover it from a mountain of boxes and other 
> things that had accumulated since the last time anyone asked them to 
> realign a steel frame.  took a bit of cold setting, but the mechanic didnt 
> seem worried he also didnt seem to understand why i wanted him to 
> realign a super rough old trek mtb. oh well. 
>
> and george, money invested aside, that rockhopper you built will probably 
> last a lifetime. i wouldve lost my mind if i ever had a bike that nice as a 
> kid. 
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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[Ron Mc]

came out nice Drew - thanks for posting the photos

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[Montclair BobbyB]

Correction... DREW!!!  Awesome job!!!  BB

On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 9:59:31 AM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
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> Bravo, Chris!!  That's one of my favorite frames, and you've nailed it. 
>  Perfect rebuild, brings out the absolute best in this bike... enjoy that 
> beauty for a long time.
> We did a group ride yesterday on a collection of (converted) 80s MTBs 
> (Rockhopper, Bianchi Grizzly and Schwinn Cimarron).  They're pure joy.  

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[David Banzer]

Here's a better photo as it was built up with Soma Oxford bars.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/dabanzer/Mobile%20Uploads/7DCA4A05-0E97-4CD2-8B99-F40ED8FC07AA_zpspyoh7djr.jpg
David
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On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 11:36:50 AM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
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> Definitely right about Trek "dipping their toes in the mtb water" - I have 
> a Trek 850 from 1983 - their first mtb model. It rides like a stout touring 
> frame. I was going to get rid of it as I thought my Clem would overlap, but 
> have come to my senses and will keep it built up as a 1x7 with mustache 
> bars and possibly RTP tires.
> Here's a photo as I first built it up to try drop bars and single speed.
> David
> Chicago
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> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 11:01:19 AM UTC-6, drew wrote:
>>
>> cool, i had an 85 db apex that i built up for my dad as a city bike. i 
>> thought it was an awesome frame, so i didnt want it to leave the family. i 
>> dont have a scale of any sort, so i didnt weigh the trek or db frame.  the 
>> "feel" of the db with infinity, is a little heavier/sturdier, while the 
>> trek with prestige feels more road bikey.  that could have no relationship 
>> to the tubing though, and just be the fact that diamondback was making only 
>> mtb/bmx bikes, and trek was just dipping their toes in the mtb water. i 
>> dont know.  does yours have the extra spoke chain guard? i love that detail
>>
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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

You guys with your vintage Trek MTB's are killing me!!!Keep em coming!! 
  



On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 8:21:47 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
>
> i posted about a 30$ trek 870 frame/fork i found earlier this year HERE 
> .
>  
>  
>
> 
> boredom, and the fact that ive never been able to abide a true beater, 
> turned it into a project that was helped out by several people in the group 
> who supplied parts, so i figured i'd share how it turned out. 
>
>
> 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[drew]

cool, i had an 85 db apex that i built up for my dad as a city bike. i 
thought it was an awesome frame, so i didnt want it to leave the family. i 
dont have a scale of any sort, so i didnt weigh the trek or db frame.  the 
"feel" of the db with infinity, is a little heavier/sturdier, while the 
trek with prestige feels more road bikey.  that could have no relationship 
to the tubing though, and just be the fact that diamondback was making only 
mtb/bmx bikes, and trek was just dipping their toes in the mtb water. i 
dont know.  does yours have the extra spoke chain guard? i love that detail





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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That was my first thought too but he already seemed to have plans for it 
plus I just bought a bike so I'm out of the market for the time being. 
 I'll continue to watch E-Bay and Craigslist and hope for something too 
good to pass up.  



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> Chris, 
> it might be time to try to convince David that there is, in fact, too much 
> crossover with the clem. looks like it might be a 60cm too. 
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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[David Banzer]

Mine's a 62cm c-t seattube. I've already resolved the crossover though - 
Trek will be getting mustache bars, no racks - purely gravel road rides. 
Clem will be townie bike and eventual kid-hauler.
David
Chicago

On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 2:54:33 PM UTC-6, drew wrote:
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> Chris, 
> it might be time to try to convince David that there is, in fact, too much 
> crossover with the clem. looks like it might be a 60cm too. 
>

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[drew]

Chris, 
it might be time to try to convince David that there is, in fact, too much 
crossover with the clem. looks like it might be a 60cm too. 

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

What really nailed it for me is the bottom bracket drop.50mm!!!  That's 
almost unheard of on old MTB's.  The fact that it's a Trek doesn't hurt, 
either.  My first bike was a 1995 Trek and I'll always be a vintage Trek 
fanboy..



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>
> Bravo, Chris!!  That's one of my favorite frames, and you've nailed it. 
>  Perfect rebuild, brings out the absolute best in this bike... enjoy that 
> beauty for a long time.
> We did a group ride yesterday on a collection of (converted) 80s MTBs 
> (Rockhopper, Bianchi Grizzly and Schwinn Cimarron).  They're pure joy.  

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[Montclair BobbyB]

Bravo, Chris!!  That's one of my favorite frames, and you've nailed it.  
Perfect rebuild, brings out the absolute best in this bike... enjoy that beauty 
for a long time.
We did a group ride yesterday on a collection of (converted) 80s MTBs 
(Rockhopper, Bianchi Grizzly and Schwinn Cimarron).  They're pure joy.  

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[drew]

The tires are something called Halo Twin Rail. i purchased these a while 
back on a whim, because they were cheap, looked ok and reportedly had good 
puncture protection. i can report that they do have good puncture 
protection and are not horrible on dirtthat's it. 

Ive gone through a lot of vintage treks and have such a sentimental place 
in my heart for them. weirdly, a lowish end 1987 elance is the one i miss 
most. an 84-86 800 series was always at the top of the desirability list 
though. 

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[George Schick]

I recall the original discussion about this frame from back around the 
first of September.  That's pretty quick turnaround for a PC job and then 
finding all those components!  Looks fantastic.  Did the same shop that did 
the PC take care of those brake mounting stud misalignments you were 
concerned about?

I tell ya, there's nothing better than finding and old jewel of a 
bike/frame like this and getting it back on the road again.  I did 
something similar last year for a local woman.  She had found a Rockhopper 
(ca., early 90's I think) near the dumpster in the parking garage of her 
condo building and couldn't understand why someone was trashing what was at 
one time such a high quality bike.  She was just coming out of an LBS where 
she had been quoted $200+ to overhaul it when she ran into me and said she 
wanted to restore it for a Christmas present for her young grandson, but 
didn't want to spend over $100 to do  it.  I said I'd take a look at it for 
her.  Someone had scavenged the crankset and pedals and left the BB.  But 
it, along with almost everything else on the bike was in pretty bad shape, 
except the tires which looked fairly new.  Since I knew it was for a kid 
and that she didn't want to spend much money, I ordered a very low-end 
crankset - one of those where the three chainrings are welded together, a 
cheap BB, some handlebar ends (also missing), and a new chain.  Then I tore 
everything apart and started from bottom up.  I had to dremel-burnish 
several bushings on the rear derailer because  they were so corroded.  The 
wheels, of course, needed to be trued.  I had a spare linear pull rear 
brake in my parts box and found another low-end NOS one at an LBS that they 
wanted to push so they discounted it to me so I could replace the badly 
abused canto's, etc, etc.  In the end she was delighted and the grandson 
was happy as a clam to get a bike like that.  

On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 11:10:07 AM UTC-6, drew wrote:
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> The tires are something called Halo Twin Rail. i purchased these a while 
> back on a whim, because they were cheap, looked ok and reportedly had good 
> puncture protection. i can report that they do have good puncture 
> protection and are not horrible on dirtthat's it. 
>
> Ive gone through a lot of vintage treks and have such a sentimental place 
> in my heart for them. weirdly, a lowish end 1987 elance is the one i miss 
> most. an 84-86 800 series was always at the top of the desirability list 
> though. 
>

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[drew]

well, the parts situation was very much helped by having a 7/8th built 89 
rockhopper who sacrificed itself for this build. transferring the parts 
didnt take much time, and the powdercoat was done in less than a week. i 
had the frame realigned by an older bike shop which had a park tool table 
in the back. they had to uncover it from a mountain of boxes and other 
things that had accumulated since the last time anyone asked them to 
realign a steel frame.  took a bit of cold setting, but the mechanic didnt 
seem worried he also didnt seem to understand why i wanted him to 
realign a super rough old trek mtb. oh well. 

and george, money invested aside, that rockhopper you built will probably 
last a lifetime. i wouldve lost my mind if i ever had a bike that nice as a 
kid. 

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[Beth H]

Beautifully done! Congrats and enjoy riding! 
Beth in PDX

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> i posted about a 30$ trek 870 frame/fork i found earlier this year HERE 
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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[Michael Hechmer]

Very nice job.  That vintage usually had 27"wheels.  Did you have the brake 
posts moved?

Michael

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> boredom, and the fact that ive never been able to abide a true beater, 
> turned it into a project that was helped out by several people in the group 
> who supplied parts, so i figured i'd share how it turned out. 
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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Do you know the RAL number of the powdercoat used on your frame?  Just in 
case I get lucky!  ;>)



On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 8:21:47 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
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>
> i posted about a 30$ trek 870 frame/fork i found earlier this year HERE 
> .
>  
>  
>
> 
> boredom, and the fact that ive never been able to abide a true beater, 
> turned it into a project that was helped out by several people in the group 
> who supplied parts, so i figured i'd share how it turned out. 
>
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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[hsmitham]

Drew,

That is a sick build and mean in a totally rad way!! Keep that baby close 
at hand. Such eye candy.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 6:21:47 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
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>
> i posted about a 30$ trek 870 frame/fork i found earlier this year HERE 
> .
>  
>  
>
> 
> boredom, and the fact that ive never been able to abide a true beater, 
> turned it into a project that was helped out by several people in the group 
> who supplied parts, so i figured i'd share how it turned out. 
>
>
> 
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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[drew]

Hey Michael, this was In the early stages of trek making mountain bikes, so the 
800 series  all had 26in wheels at that time. The clearances are insane. There 
is still a ton of room to go bigger than the 2.25 that is in there now.

The color is anthracite from Olympic powder coating in Irvine. It's one of 
their standard colors that they have on the wall, nothing fancy. I was hoping 
to match the original metallic green, but didn't realize how much powdercoating 
prices go up once you get a custom color. 

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks for the color information and the information on clearances because 
I was also wondering about that.  I'm now looking for a 60cm 1985 850 or 
870 frameset.  I checked out the geometry at vintage-trek.com and I really 
think I would like to build one up in the future. 

If you haven't looked at the 1985 Trek catalog, you might be amazed at how 
close you came to that year's 830 color!






On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 11:14:16 AM UTC-5, drew wrote:
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> Hey Michael, this was In the early stages of trek making mountain bikes, 
> so the 800 series  all had 26in wheels at that time. The clearances are 
> insane. There is still a ton of room to go bigger than the 2.25 that is in 
> there now.
>
> The color is anthracite from Olympic powder coating in Irvine. It's one of 
> their standard colors that they have on the wall, nothing fancy. I was 
> hoping to match the original metallic green, but didn't realize how much 
> powdercoating prices go up once you get a custom color. 
>

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[Tommy Jarvis]

Looks great. What kind of tires di you have there?

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[ant ritchey]

jeeelousy

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 6:21:47 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
>
> i posted about a 30$ trek 870 frame/fork i found earlier this year HERE 
> .
>  
>  
>
> 
> boredom, and the fact that ive never been able to abide a true beater, 
> turned it into a project that was helped out by several people in the group 
> who supplied parts, so i figured i'd share how it turned out. 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

This or it's equivalent is pretty much my Grail bike.  Wish I could find a 
frameset like that for $30!!

Great job on a beautiful bike!!!




On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 8:21:47 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
>
> i posted about a 30$ trek 870 frame/fork i found earlier this year HERE 
> .
>  
>  
>
> 
> boredom, and the fact that ive never been able to abide a true beater, 
> turned it into a project that was helped out by several people in the group 
> who supplied parts, so i figured i'd share how it turned out. 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>

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