[RBW] Can you feel a 1.3 gear inch difference going uphill?

[Marc Irwin]

I feel everything going uphill.

Marc

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Re: [RBW] Can you feel a 1.3 gear inch difference going uphill?

[Steve Palincsar]

If you take it to the extreme, at some point when you're on the very 
threshold of ability that 1.3 gear inch difference is going to be the 
difference between blowing up and not blowing up, so then you will 
surely see and feel the difference.  When you're not out on the extreme 
raggedy edge, chances are you won't be able to feel a difference that 
small.The camel only feels the straw when the load is on the verge 
of breaking his back, and the dam only feels that final drop of water 
that causes catastrophic failure when it's already stressed to the 
breaking point.



On 09/01/2017 10:08 AM, Garth wrote:

Who's to say it does or not, since thee answer "depends" on the rider, bike, terrain, climate and 
all intangibles. So one answer just won't do, look at the Whole picture and you see it doesn't matter in that 
the Whole picture does not depend on anything "in" the picture since everything "in" the 
Whole picture is the Whole picture. There is only One Whole picture ☺



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[RBW] Can you feel a 1.3 gear inch difference going uphill?

[Garth]

Who's to say it does or not, since thee answer "depends" on the rider, bike, 
terrain, climate and all intangibles. So one answer just won't do, look at the 
Whole picture and you see it doesn't matter in that the Whole picture does not 
depend on anything "in" the picture since everything "in" the Whole picture is 
the Whole picture. There is only One Whole picture ☺

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Re: [RBW] Can you feel a 1.3 gear inch difference going uphill?

[Ron Mc]

Patrick is pretty close on this one.  I can't tell a difference between a 
23" low gear and 25" low gear on different bikes.  I can tell a difference 
in 4-5" steps in that range.  
Also pointing out again, it's a 400' climb at the end of my ride to get 
home, and the grade his 14% in 4 spots.  

Within the cruising range, 70-85", I'm pretty happy in any gear in that 
range riding alone at any cadence, though having 5-7" steps in that range 
is important when keeping up with a group.  

As far as the 1.3" goes, that's just about the difference going from a 32mm 
to 38mm tire.  

On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 8:31:05 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Not ~1 gear inch, but I can certainly feel 3 gear inches on level ground, 
> and in fact have a gear series on the Matthews of single tooth jumps from 
> #1 (smallest, 14 t to #7, 20 t, and which in the middle goes 70-67-63-60. 
> 67 and 63 cruising gears (pavement and flat sandy dirt) in the very middly 
> middle, and total range from 86 to 43 on the 42, with a 28 to get me down 
> to a not used so far 29". I'm debating whether to drop a tooth all over for 
> a 13-25, but probably won't.
>
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Re: [RBW] Can you feel a 1.3 gear inch difference going uphill?

[Patrick Moore]

Not ~1 gear inch, but I can certainly feel 3 gear inches on level ground,
and in fact have a gear series on the Matthews of single tooth jumps from
#1 (smallest, 14 t to #7, 20 t, and which in the middle goes 70-67-63-60.
67 and 63 cruising gears (pavement and flat sandy dirt) in the very middly
middle, and total range from 86 to 43 on the 42, with a 28 to get me down
to a not used so far 29". I'm debating whether to drop a tooth all over for
a 13-25, but probably won't.

Why 1.3 gi in particular?

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:32 PM, lum gim fong  wrote:

> Possible, or is that considered so close you cannot really feel it?
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[RBW] Can you feel a 1.3 gear inch difference going uphill?

[Jay Connolly]

Such a great question. I like to be able to go ANYWHERE on my bikes, but I 
don't always want to run a triple or lose high-end gears. 19 fest inches gets 
me up anything I'll tackle. Would I settle for 20.3? On anything other than a 
touring bike, yes. Would I feel the difference? On a long, difficult climb, it 
would be on my mind, but it wouldn't put me walking.

Jay

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Re: [RBW] Can you feel a 1.3 gear inch difference going uphill?

[Reed Kennedy]

Depends on where you're coming from!

If you've got a stump-pullingly low 19 inch low gear (say a triple in the
front with a 24 tooth small chainring and a 34 tooth big cog on your
cassette) then that's a 7% difference. You could probably feel that, and
might even want it sometimes.

If you've got a roadie-corncob type setup with a 50 inch low gear (say a
52/39 double in front with a 21 tooth "big" cog in the back) then that's a
2.6% difference. I can't imagine you'd notice it there.

I generally find it more useful to think in terms of gear range (biggest
gear to smallest) rather than jumps between. A 1.3 inch gear difference
would probably involve shifting both the front and the rear derailleurs at
the same time, which few people actually do.


Best,
Reed

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[RBW] Can you feel a 1.3 gear inch difference going uphill?

[lum gim fong]

Possible, or is that considered so close you cannot really feel it?

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