Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[Ryan Fleming]

Porsche Ruby Red  by Rivendell's current painter. I thought about this 
colour myself. Very classy!

On Cyclofiend


http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc095-cvanorsdol0406.html  


On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 10:52:51 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Ooh, a red Glorius. That's sweet!

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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[Joe Bernard]

Ooh, a red Glorius. That's sweet!

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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The angle of the photo has an elongating effect. I was talking up, not out. 
So maybe it was a (bad) skinny joke? But please, never look for meaning in 
any of my comments, grasshopper.

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:40:04 PM UTC-8, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Did I grow? I looked for the meaning in this but all I can come up with is 
> “Wait a minute, is he making a fat joke?” I’ll keep the boots close. Scary 
> times, I tell you. And you best get Riv to make you some mounts. I’ll find 
> you some appropriate boots! We got this covered. 
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 7, 2017, at 7:00 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> Hi Leah. Did you grow while you were away? The boots you *would* grab? 
> I'd keep 'em real close from here on out. In fact you may want to sleep in 
> them. You are right, though, an all-out sprint from a zombie or two would 
> render the Twofish inoperable in no time. But then, you don't want to be 
> taking hands off the bars at a moment like that. Apocalypse bicycle 
> equipment selection can be plain darn confusing! But the red boots, no 
> brainer for sure (pardon the pun.)
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:25:22 PM UTC-8, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> But Mark, you don’t understand. The dream Cheviot HAS to have two bottle 
>> mounts because the Dream Cheviot is the world’s most over-prepared bike. At 
>> least according to The Book of Leah, it is. The bike would have dyno 
>> lighting and the heaviest-duty racks and giant Wald baskets and Sackville 
>> bags everywhere. Also, the Dream Cheviot would go perfectly with my red End 
>> of the World Boots - the boots I would grab if everything was falling 
>> apart. You know, like in The Walking Dead. Two bottle mounts would be 
>> mandatory if I had to outride the zombies. You can’t just have the Two-Fish 
>> thing jiggling around on the frame like that, no sir. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 7, 2017, at 1:57 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> How much more tire would that get you, front and rear? The specs say it 
>> can take a 650B/45 or a 700c/50. That is a ton o' tire. If you really need 
>> more, brake reach is listed as 65 (Tektro 559?), but if you went with Dia 
>> Compe 750 centerpulls, would that get you more height (which I assume is 
>> the limiting factor here?)
>>
>> Also, complaints about only one water bottle mount on the Cheviots are 
>> popular. I have lots of bikes with none. Most of my rides I only need  one 
>> bottle, so I have some version of a clamped on holder. If I figure I will 
>> be out all of a summer's day, I sometimes supplement with the twofish 
>> bottle thing. Not the most elegant, but for occasional use it works just 
>> fine. Or if all your riding is 40+ miles, you could use a clamped cage. The 
>> Zefal vintage cages are pretty.  I'm about to install one on my dress-up 
>> bike. Or go super duper old school retro and get a handlebar mounted cage. 
>> Fun! Or ride with a domestique or two. It's up to you.
>>
>> BTW, tip of the hat to Joe B for alerting me to the Harris Cheviot. I in 
>> turn told my friend, and she bought it then hopped in the car and drove 
>> three hours to pick it up. I'll be seeing it and helping her get fitted 
>> this Friday. Looking forward to it. Of course I will need to take a bit of 
>> a test ride!
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, spru...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Joe,
>>> This will be a cool bike. As long as you're getting the custom paint, 
>>> did you consider have canti posts added? That's the one thing I wish my 
>>> Cheviot had but doesn't. The frame has generous clearance, but tire size is 
>>> limited by the brake calipers. (It's certainly easier to spend your money 
>>> than my own.)
>>> David Sprunger
>>> Fargo, ND
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 Whelp, this started as a "let's jump on that sale" journey towards a 
 Cheviot frame at a pre-sale price in a nice Roadini/RBW Blue...then I lost 
 my mind. Someone on a Roadini thread mentioned getting a custom color and 
 I 
 thought, HEY! So I chatted with Will @ Riv and determined I could get 
 anything I wanted (that fit the bike/decals) from Rick at D I pondered 
 on this a while and looked at a lot of colors on the internets and decided 
 a Candy Apple Red Cheviot would be the cat's pajamas. Now my pre-sale 
 bargain Chev is..not such a bargain! Oops ;-)

 It's going to be just gorgeous with the cream contrasts, and is sort of 
 my shot at a poor man's custom 'cause I know I'll never buy (or need) a 
 true custom. It's also a bit of an homage to the Jimmy Carter bike. His 
 was 
 an Atlantis and a different shade of red, but that bike is what got me 
 thinking about a red Riv the other night. I can't wait!


 

Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[Joe Bernard]

I didn't get the "grow" comment, either, but I don't think it was a fat joke. 
You look fabulous, and those are killer boots! 

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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[Leah Peterson]

Did I grow? I looked for the meaning in this but all I can come up with is 
“Wait a minute, is he making a fat joke?” I’ll keep the boots close. Scary 
times, I tell you. And you best get Riv to make you some mounts. I’ll find you 
some appropriate boots! We got this covered. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 7, 2017, at 7:00 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Leah. Did you grow while you were away? The boots you would grab? I'd keep 
> 'em real close from here on out. In fact you may want to sleep in them. You 
> are right, though, an all-out sprint from a zombie or two would render the 
> Twofish inoperable in no time. But then, you don't want to be taking hands 
> off the bars at a moment like that. Apocalypse bicycle equipment selection 
> can be plain darn confusing! But the red boots, no brainer for sure (pardon 
> the pun.)
> 
>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:25:22 PM UTC-8, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> But Mark, you don’t understand. The dream Cheviot HAS to have two bottle 
>> mounts because the Dream Cheviot is the world’s most over-prepared bike. At 
>> least according to The Book of Leah, it is. The bike would have dyno 
>> lighting and the heaviest-duty racks and giant Wald baskets and Sackville 
>> bags everywhere. Also, the Dream Cheviot would go perfectly with my red End 
>> of the World Boots - the boots I would grab if everything was falling apart. 
>> You know, like in The Walking Dead. Two bottle mounts would be mandatory if 
>> I had to outride the zombies. You can’t just have the Two-Fish thing 
>> jiggling around on the frame like that, no sir. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2017, at 1:57 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How much more tire would that get you, front and rear? The specs say it can 
>>> take a 650B/45 or a 700c/50. That is a ton o' tire. If you really need 
>>> more, brake reach is listed as 65 (Tektro 559?), but if you went with Dia 
>>> Compe 750 centerpulls, would that get you more height (which I assume is 
>>> the limiting factor here?)
>>> 
>>> Also, complaints about only one water bottle mount on the Cheviots are 
>>> popular. I have lots of bikes with none. Most of my rides I only need  one 
>>> bottle, so I have some version of a clamped on holder. If I figure I will 
>>> be out all of a summer's day, I sometimes supplement with the twofish 
>>> bottle thing. Not the most elegant, but for occasional use it works just 
>>> fine. Or if all your riding is 40+ miles, you could use a clamped cage. The 
>>> Zefal vintage cages are pretty.  I'm about to install one on my dress-up 
>>> bike. Or go super duper old school retro and get a handlebar mounted cage. 
>>> Fun! Or ride with a domestique or two. It's up to you.
>>> 
>>> BTW, tip of the hat to Joe B for alerting me to the Harris Cheviot. I in 
>>> turn told my friend, and she bought it then hopped in the car and drove 
>>> three hours to pick it up. I'll be seeing it and helping her get fitted 
>>> this Friday. Looking forward to it. Of course I will need to take a bit of 
>>> a test ride!
>>> 
 On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, spru...@gmail.com wrote:
 Joe,
 This will be a cool bike. As long as you're getting the custom paint, did 
 you consider have canti posts added? That's the one thing I wish my 
 Cheviot had but doesn't. The frame has generous clearance, but tire size 
 is limited by the brake calipers. (It's certainly easier to spend your 
 money than my own.)
 David Sprunger
 Fargo, ND
 
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> Whelp, this started as a "let's jump on that sale" journey towards a 
> Cheviot frame at a pre-sale price in a nice Roadini/RBW Blue...then I 
> lost my mind. Someone on a Roadini thread mentioned getting a custom 
> color and I thought, HEY! So I chatted with Will @ Riv and determined I 
> could get anything I wanted (that fit the bike/decals) from Rick at D 
> I pondered on this a while and looked at a lot of colors on the internets 
> and decided a Candy Apple Red Cheviot would be the cat's pajamas. Now my 
> pre-sale bargain Chev is..not such a bargain! Oops ;-)
> 
> It's going to be just gorgeous with the cream contrasts, and is sort of 
> my shot at a poor man's custom 'cause I know I'll never buy (or need) a 
> true custom. It's also a bit of an homage to the Jimmy Carter bike. His 
> was an Atlantis and a different shade of red, but that bike is what got 
> me thinking about a red Riv the other night. I can't wait!
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+carter+rivendell+bike=jimmy+carter+bik=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.16939j0j7=ms-android-verizon=chrome-mobile=UTF-8#imgrc=vzkGNutcbKY_9M:
> 
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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Leah. Did you grow while you were away? The boots you *would* grab? I'd 
keep 'em real close from here on out. In fact you may want to sleep in 
them. You are right, though, an all-out sprint from a zombie or two would 
render the Twofish inoperable in no time. But then, you don't want to be 
taking hands off the bars at a moment like that. Apocalypse bicycle 
equipment selection can be plain darn confusing! But the red boots, no 
brainer for sure (pardon the pun.)

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:25:22 PM UTC-8, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
>
> But Mark, you don’t understand. The dream Cheviot HAS to have two bottle 
> mounts because the Dream Cheviot is the world’s most over-prepared bike. At 
> least according to The Book of Leah, it is. The bike would have dyno 
> lighting and the heaviest-duty racks and giant Wald baskets and Sackville 
> bags everywhere. Also, the Dream Cheviot would go perfectly with my red End 
> of the World Boots - the boots I would grab if everything was falling 
> apart. You know, like in The Walking Dead. Two bottle mounts would be 
> mandatory if I had to outride the zombies. You can’t just have the Two-Fish 
> thing jiggling around on the frame like that, no sir. 
>
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2017, at 1:57 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> How much more tire would that get you, front and rear? The specs say it 
> can take a 650B/45 or a 700c/50. That is a ton o' tire. If you really need 
> more, brake reach is listed as 65 (Tektro 559?), but if you went with Dia 
> Compe 750 centerpulls, would that get you more height (which I assume is 
> the limiting factor here?)
>
> Also, complaints about only one water bottle mount on the Cheviots are 
> popular. I have lots of bikes with none. Most of my rides I only need  one 
> bottle, so I have some version of a clamped on holder. If I figure I will 
> be out all of a summer's day, I sometimes supplement with the twofish 
> bottle thing. Not the most elegant, but for occasional use it works just 
> fine. Or if all your riding is 40+ miles, you could use a clamped cage. The 
> Zefal vintage cages are pretty.  I'm about to install one on my dress-up 
> bike. Or go super duper old school retro and get a handlebar mounted cage. 
> Fun! Or ride with a domestique or two. It's up to you.
>
> BTW, tip of the hat to Joe B for alerting me to the Harris Cheviot. I in 
> turn told my friend, and she bought it then hopped in the car and drove 
> three hours to pick it up. I'll be seeing it and helping her get fitted 
> this Friday. Looking forward to it. Of course I will need to take a bit of 
> a test ride!
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, spru...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Joe,
>> This will be a cool bike. As long as you're getting the custom paint, did 
>> you consider have canti posts added? That's the one thing I wish my Cheviot 
>> had but doesn't. The frame has generous clearance, but tire size is limited 
>> by the brake calipers. (It's certainly easier to spend your money than my 
>> own.)
>> David Sprunger
>> Fargo, ND
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Whelp, this started as a "let's jump on that sale" journey towards a 
>>> Cheviot frame at a pre-sale price in a nice Roadini/RBW Blue...then I lost 
>>> my mind. Someone on a Roadini thread mentioned getting a custom color and I 
>>> thought, HEY! So I chatted with Will @ Riv and determined I could get 
>>> anything I wanted (that fit the bike/decals) from Rick at D I pondered 
>>> on this a while and looked at a lot of colors on the internets and decided 
>>> a Candy Apple Red Cheviot would be the cat's pajamas. Now my pre-sale 
>>> bargain Chev is..not such a bargain! Oops ;-)
>>>
>>> It's going to be just gorgeous with the cream contrasts, and is sort of 
>>> my shot at a poor man's custom 'cause I know I'll never buy (or need) a 
>>> true custom. It's also a bit of an homage to the Jimmy Carter bike. His was 
>>> an Atlantis and a different shade of red, but that bike is what got me 
>>> thinking about a red Riv the other night. I can't wait!
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+carter+rivendell+bike=jimmy+carter+bik=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.16939j0j7=ms-android-verizon=chrome-mobile=UTF-8#imgrc=vzkGNutcbKY_9M
>>> :
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The tires in this photos are Clement Xplor 40s, I've had Compass 38s, which 
will also permit fenders easily, and right now it has 42 Somas. With 
releases at the cable hanger and also at the lever, no need to deflate even 
the biggest tires. I really like the vintage Dia Compe/Weinmann, and I find 
that even the 750 gives plenty of well-modulated stopping power. I think 
that is the 610, which I 
switched to a Weinmann 750 because it just barely reached, and as pads wear 
on the cps, they go up...

In any event, I guess cantis could be a nice option, as well as the two 
water bottle mounts, but for most users I think the way it was spec'd is 
right on.



On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:48:06 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Mark in Beacon - 
>
> AFAIK, the prime motivator for canti brakes vs long-reach sidepulls is 
> fender clearance (ameliorated by switching to long-reach centerpulls, as 
> you suggest.  
> An additional motivator would be better brake feel due to the long, flexy 
> arms of long-reach sidepulls or DC centerpulls (ameliorated by using 
> non-flexy centerpulls like Paul or Compass).
> Another additional motivator would be the ease of removing a wheel from 
> open cantilevers (super easy), compared to open sidepull/centerpull brakes 
> (may need to deflate tire).
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:57 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> How much more tire would that get you, front and rear? The specs say it 
>> can take a 650B/45 or a 700c/50. That is a ton o' tire. If you really need 
>> more, brake reach is listed as 65 (Tektro 559?), but if you went with Dia 
>> Compe 750 centerpulls, would that get you more height (which I assume is 
>> the limiting factor here?)
>>
>> Also, complaints about only one water bottle mount on the Cheviots are 
>> popular. I have lots of bikes with none. Most of my rides I only need  one 
>> bottle, so I have some version of a clamped on holder. If I figure I will 
>> be out all of a summer's day, I sometimes supplement with the twofish 
>> bottle thing. Not the most elegant, but for occasional use it works just 
>> fine. Or if all your riding is 40+ miles, you could use a clamped cage. The 
>> Zefal vintage cages are pretty.  I'm about to install one on my dress-up 
>> bike. Or go super duper old school retro and get a handlebar mounted cage. 
>> Fun! Or ride with a domestique or two. It's up to you.
>>
>> BTW, tip of the hat to Joe B for alerting me to the Harris Cheviot. I in 
>> turn told my friend, and she bought it then hopped in the car and drove 
>> three hours to pick it up. I'll be seeing it and helping her get fitted 
>> this Friday. Looking forward to it. Of course I will need to take a bit of 
>> a test ride!
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, spru...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Joe,
>>> This will be a cool bike. As long as you're getting the custom paint, 
>>> did you consider have canti posts added? That's the one thing I wish my 
>>> Cheviot had but doesn't. The frame has generous clearance, but tire size is 
>>> limited by the brake calipers. (It's certainly easier to spend your money 
>>> than my own.)
>>> David Sprunger
>>> Fargo, ND
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 Whelp, this started as a "let's jump on that sale" journey towards a 
 Cheviot frame at a pre-sale price in a nice Roadini/RBW Blue...then I lost 
 my mind. Someone on a Roadini thread mentioned getting a custom color and 
 I 
 thought, HEY! So I chatted with Will @ Riv and determined I could get 
 anything I wanted (that fit the bike/decals) from Rick at D I pondered 
 on this a while and looked at a lot of colors on the internets and decided 
 a Candy Apple Red Cheviot would be the cat's pajamas. Now my pre-sale 
 bargain Chev is..not such a bargain! Oops ;-)

 It's going to be just gorgeous with the cream contrasts, and is sort of 
 my shot at a poor man's custom 'cause I know I'll never buy (or need) a 
 true custom. It's also a bit of an homage to the Jimmy Carter bike. His 
 was 
 an Atlantis and a different shade of red, but that bike is what got me 
 thinking about a red Riv the other night. I can't wait!


 https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+carter+rivendell+bike=jimmy+carter+bik=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.16939j0j7=ms-android-verizon=chrome-mobile=UTF-8#imgrc=vzkGNutcbKY_9M
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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

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On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 3:24:34 PM UTC-6, spru...@gmail.com wrote:
 As long as you're getting the custom paint, did you consider have canti 
posts added? That's the one thing I wish my Cheviot had but doesn't. The 
frame has generous clearance, but tire size is limited by the brake 
calipers. 

On my 55 Cheviot, I don't think cantilever brakes would add much tire 
clearance. I'm able to fit Compass 38mm tires under VO fenders, just 
barely. The front brake is problematic, but in the end I don't think 
removing it would create more than a couple extra mm. 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI, where the snow tires might be getting mounted soon.

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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[Ryan Fleming]

yeah...I'm not riding this bike thru Death Valley(which is an adventure, 
just not mine) or anything so it's not really a concern

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:42:46 PM UTC-6, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> My custom mixte did have 2 water-bottle mounts; the 1st is topside ,the  
> 2nd is on the underside of the downtube.  To be fair here, I said 2 bosses 
> on the form but I didn't say where
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:25:22 PM UTC-6, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> But Mark, you don’t understand. The dream Cheviot HAS to have two bottle 
>> mounts because the Dream Cheviot is the world’s most over-prepared bike. At 
>> least according to The Book of Leah, it is. The bike would have dyno 
>> lighting and the heaviest-duty racks and giant Wald baskets and Sackville 
>> bags everywhere. Also, the Dream Cheviot would go perfectly with my red End 
>> of the World Boots - the boots I would grab if everything was falling 
>> apart. You know, like in The Walking Dead. Two bottle mounts would be 
>> mandatory if I had to outride the zombies. You can’t just have the Two-Fish 
>> thing jiggling around on the frame like that, no sir. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 7, 2017, at 1:57 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> How much more tire would that get you, front and rear? The specs say it 
>> can take a 650B/45 or a 700c/50. That is a ton o' tire. If you really need 
>> more, brake reach is listed as 65 (Tektro 559?), but if you went with Dia 
>> Compe 750 centerpulls, would that get you more height (which I assume is 
>> the limiting factor here?)
>>
>> Also, complaints about only one water bottle mount on the Cheviots are 
>> popular. I have lots of bikes with none. Most of my rides I only need  one 
>> bottle, so I have some version of a clamped on holder. If I figure I will 
>> be out all of a summer's day, I sometimes supplement with the twofish 
>> bottle thing. Not the most elegant, but for occasional use it works just 
>> fine. Or if all your riding is 40+ miles, you could use a clamped cage. The 
>> Zefal vintage cages are pretty.  I'm about to install one on my dress-up 
>> bike. Or go super duper old school retro and get a handlebar mounted cage. 
>> Fun! Or ride with a domestique or two. It's up to you.
>>
>> BTW, tip of the hat to Joe B for alerting me to the Harris Cheviot. I in 
>> turn told my friend, and she bought it then hopped in the car and drove 
>> three hours to pick it up. I'll be seeing it and helping her get fitted 
>> this Friday. Looking forward to it. Of course I will need to take a bit of 
>> a test ride!
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, spru...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Joe,
>>> This will be a cool bike. As long as you're getting the custom paint, 
>>> did you consider have canti posts added? That's the one thing I wish my 
>>> Cheviot had but doesn't. The frame has generous clearance, but tire size is 
>>> limited by the brake calipers. (It's certainly easier to spend your money 
>>> than my own.)
>>> David Sprunger
>>> Fargo, ND
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 Whelp, this started as a "let's jump on that sale" journey towards a 
 Cheviot frame at a pre-sale price in a nice Roadini/RBW Blue...then I lost 
 my mind. Someone on a Roadini thread mentioned getting a custom color and 
 I 
 thought, HEY! So I chatted with Will @ Riv and determined I could get 
 anything I wanted (that fit the bike/decals) from Rick at D I pondered 
 on this a while and looked at a lot of colors on the internets and decided 
 a Candy Apple Red Cheviot would be the cat's pajamas. Now my pre-sale 
 bargain Chev is..not such a bargain! Oops ;-)

 It's going to be just gorgeous with the cream contrasts, and is sort of 
 my shot at a poor man's custom 'cause I know I'll never buy (or need) a 
 true custom. It's also a bit of an homage to the Jimmy Carter bike. His 
 was 
 an Atlantis and a different shade of red, but that bike is what got me 
 thinking about a red Riv the other night. I can't wait!


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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[Tim Gavin]

Mark in Beacon -

AFAIK, the prime motivator for canti brakes vs long-reach sidepulls is
fender clearance (ameliorated by switching to long-reach centerpulls, as
you suggest.
An additional motivator would be better brake feel due to the long, flexy
arms of long-reach sidepulls or DC centerpulls (ameliorated by using
non-flexy centerpulls like Paul or Compass).
Another additional motivator would be the ease of removing a wheel from
open cantilevers (super easy), compared to open sidepull/centerpull brakes
(may need to deflate tire).

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:57 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> How much more tire would that get you, front and rear? The specs say it
> can take a 650B/45 or a 700c/50. That is a ton o' tire. If you really need
> more, brake reach is listed as 65 (Tektro 559?), but if you went with Dia
> Compe 750 centerpulls, would that get you more height (which I assume is
> the limiting factor here?)
>
> Also, complaints about only one water bottle mount on the Cheviots are
> popular. I have lots of bikes with none. Most of my rides I only need  one
> bottle, so I have some version of a clamped on holder. If I figure I will
> be out all of a summer's day, I sometimes supplement with the twofish
> bottle thing. Not the most elegant, but for occasional use it works just
> fine. Or if all your riding is 40+ miles, you could use a clamped cage. The
> Zefal vintage cages are pretty.  I'm about to install one on my dress-up
> bike. Or go super duper old school retro and get a handlebar mounted cage.
> Fun! Or ride with a domestique or two. It's up to you.
>
> BTW, tip of the hat to Joe B for alerting me to the Harris Cheviot. I in
> turn told my friend, and she bought it then hopped in the car and drove
> three hours to pick it up. I'll be seeing it and helping her get fitted
> this Friday. Looking forward to it. Of course I will need to take a bit of
> a test ride!
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, spru...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Joe,
>> This will be a cool bike. As long as you're getting the custom paint, did
>> you consider have canti posts added? That's the one thing I wish my Cheviot
>> had but doesn't. The frame has generous clearance, but tire size is limited
>> by the brake calipers. (It's certainly easier to spend your money than my
>> own.)
>> David Sprunger
>> Fargo, ND
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Whelp, this started as a "let's jump on that sale" journey towards a
>>> Cheviot frame at a pre-sale price in a nice Roadini/RBW Blue...then I lost
>>> my mind. Someone on a Roadini thread mentioned getting a custom color and I
>>> thought, HEY! So I chatted with Will @ Riv and determined I could get
>>> anything I wanted (that fit the bike/decals) from Rick at D I pondered
>>> on this a while and looked at a lot of colors on the internets and decided
>>> a Candy Apple Red Cheviot would be the cat's pajamas. Now my pre-sale
>>> bargain Chev is..not such a bargain! Oops ;-)
>>>
>>> It's going to be just gorgeous with the cream contrasts, and is sort of
>>> my shot at a poor man's custom 'cause I know I'll never buy (or need) a
>>> true custom. It's also a bit of an homage to the Jimmy Carter bike. His was
>>> an Atlantis and a different shade of red, but that bike is what got me
>>> thinking about a red Riv the other night. I can't wait!
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+carter+rivendell+bike;
>>> oq=jimmy+carter+bik=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.16939j0j7=
>>> ms-android-verizon=chrome-mobile=UTF-8#imgrc=vzkGNutcbKY_9M:
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[Joe Bernard]

Eh, it's not a thing for me. I only use one bottle at a time, and usually carry 
enough luggage to store extra. 

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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[Ryan Fleming]

My custom mixte did have 2 water-bottle mounts; the 1st is topside ,the  
2nd is on the underside of the downtube.  To be fair here, I said 2 bosses 
on the form but I didn't say where

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:25:22 PM UTC-6, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
>
> But Mark, you don’t understand. The dream Cheviot HAS to have two bottle 
> mounts because the Dream Cheviot is the world’s most over-prepared bike. At 
> least according to The Book of Leah, it is. The bike would have dyno 
> lighting and the heaviest-duty racks and giant Wald baskets and Sackville 
> bags everywhere. Also, the Dream Cheviot would go perfectly with my red End 
> of the World Boots - the boots I would grab if everything was falling 
> apart. You know, like in The Walking Dead. Two bottle mounts would be 
> mandatory if I had to outride the zombies. You can’t just have the Two-Fish 
> thing jiggling around on the frame like that, no sir. 
>
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2017, at 1:57 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> How much more tire would that get you, front and rear? The specs say it 
> can take a 650B/45 or a 700c/50. That is a ton o' tire. If you really need 
> more, brake reach is listed as 65 (Tektro 559?), but if you went with Dia 
> Compe 750 centerpulls, would that get you more height (which I assume is 
> the limiting factor here?)
>
> Also, complaints about only one water bottle mount on the Cheviots are 
> popular. I have lots of bikes with none. Most of my rides I only need  one 
> bottle, so I have some version of a clamped on holder. If I figure I will 
> be out all of a summer's day, I sometimes supplement with the twofish 
> bottle thing. Not the most elegant, but for occasional use it works just 
> fine. Or if all your riding is 40+ miles, you could use a clamped cage. The 
> Zefal vintage cages are pretty.  I'm about to install one on my dress-up 
> bike. Or go super duper old school retro and get a handlebar mounted cage. 
> Fun! Or ride with a domestique or two. It's up to you.
>
> BTW, tip of the hat to Joe B for alerting me to the Harris Cheviot. I in 
> turn told my friend, and she bought it then hopped in the car and drove 
> three hours to pick it up. I'll be seeing it and helping her get fitted 
> this Friday. Looking forward to it. Of course I will need to take a bit of 
> a test ride!
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, spru...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Joe,
>> This will be a cool bike. As long as you're getting the custom paint, did 
>> you consider have canti posts added? That's the one thing I wish my Cheviot 
>> had but doesn't. The frame has generous clearance, but tire size is limited 
>> by the brake calipers. (It's certainly easier to spend your money than my 
>> own.)
>> David Sprunger
>> Fargo, ND
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Whelp, this started as a "let's jump on that sale" journey towards a 
>>> Cheviot frame at a pre-sale price in a nice Roadini/RBW Blue...then I lost 
>>> my mind. Someone on a Roadini thread mentioned getting a custom color and I 
>>> thought, HEY! So I chatted with Will @ Riv and determined I could get 
>>> anything I wanted (that fit the bike/decals) from Rick at D I pondered 
>>> on this a while and looked at a lot of colors on the internets and decided 
>>> a Candy Apple Red Cheviot would be the cat's pajamas. Now my pre-sale 
>>> bargain Chev is..not such a bargain! Oops ;-)
>>>
>>> It's going to be just gorgeous with the cream contrasts, and is sort of 
>>> my shot at a poor man's custom 'cause I know I'll never buy (or need) a 
>>> true custom. It's also a bit of an homage to the Jimmy Carter bike. His was 
>>> an Atlantis and a different shade of red, but that bike is what got me 
>>> thinking about a red Riv the other night. I can't wait!
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+carter+rivendell+bike=jimmy+carter+bik=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.16939j0j7=ms-android-verizon=chrome-mobile=UTF-8#imgrc=vzkGNutcbKY_9M
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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[Leah Peterson]

But Mark, you don’t understand. The dream Cheviot HAS to have two bottle mounts 
because the Dream Cheviot is the world’s most over-prepared bike. At least 
according to The Book of Leah, it is. The bike would have dyno lighting and the 
heaviest-duty racks and giant Wald baskets and Sackville bags everywhere. Also, 
the Dream Cheviot would go perfectly with my red End of the World Boots - the 
boots I would grab if everything was falling apart. You know, like in The 
Walking Dead. Two bottle mounts would be mandatory if I had to outride the 
zombies. You can’t just have the Two-Fish thing jiggling around on the frame 
like that, no sir. 




> On Nov 7, 2017, at 1:57 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> How much more tire would that get you, front and rear? The specs say it can 
> take a 650B/45 or a 700c/50. That is a ton o' tire. If you really need more, 
> brake reach is listed as 65 (Tektro 559?), but if you went with Dia Compe 750 
> centerpulls, would that get you more height (which I assume is the limiting 
> factor here?)
> 
> Also, complaints about only one water bottle mount on the Cheviots are 
> popular. I have lots of bikes with none. Most of my rides I only need  one 
> bottle, so I have some version of a clamped on holder. If I figure I will be 
> out all of a summer's day, I sometimes supplement with the twofish bottle 
> thing. Not the most elegant, but for occasional use it works just fine. Or if 
> all your riding is 40+ miles, you could use a clamped cage. The Zefal vintage 
> cages are pretty.  I'm about to install one on my dress-up bike. Or go super 
> duper old school retro and get a handlebar mounted cage. Fun! Or ride with a 
> domestique or two. It's up to you.
> 
> BTW, tip of the hat to Joe B for alerting me to the Harris Cheviot. I in turn 
> told my friend, and she bought it then hopped in the car and drove three 
> hours to pick it up. I'll be seeing it and helping her get fitted this 
> Friday. Looking forward to it. Of course I will need to take a bit of a test 
> ride!
> 
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, spru...@gmail.com wrote:
> Joe,
> This will be a cool bike. As long as you're getting the custom paint, did you 
> consider have canti posts added? That's the one thing I wish my Cheviot had 
> but doesn't. The frame has generous clearance, but tire size is limited by 
> the brake calipers. (It's certainly easier to spend your money than my own.)
> David Sprunger
> Fargo, ND
> 
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Joe Bernard  > wrote:
> Whelp, this started as a "let's jump on that sale" journey towards a Cheviot 
> frame at a pre-sale price in a nice Roadini/RBW Blue...then I lost my mind. 
> Someone on a Roadini thread mentioned getting a custom color and I thought, 
> HEY! So I chatted with Will @ Riv and determined I could get anything I 
> wanted (that fit the bike/decals) from Rick at D I pondered on this a 
> while and looked at a lot of colors on the internets and decided a Candy 
> Apple Red Cheviot would be the cat's pajamas. Now my pre-sale bargain Chev 
> is..not such a bargain! Oops ;-)
> 
> It's going to be just gorgeous with the cream contrasts, and is sort of my 
> shot at a poor man's custom 'cause I know I'll never buy (or need) a true 
> custom. It's also a bit of an homage to the Jimmy Carter bike. His was an 
> Atlantis and a different shade of red, but that bike is what got me thinking 
> about a red Riv the other night. I can't wait!
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+carter+rivendell+bike=jimmy+carter+bik=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.16939j0j7=ms-android-verizon=chrome-mobile=UTF-8#imgrc=vzkGNutcbKY_9M
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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[Joe Bernard]

As long as it fits my 650b x 41 Fatty Rumpkins I'm happy. It may be a tad snug 
with fenders, but I'm thinking of running roadie-style clip-on/pop-off 
mudguards anyway 'cause it's dry here most of the year. Also, I'm not a big fan 
of adding brake stresses to a frame in areas it wasn't designed for. Grant 
designed this with road calipers and I like the long-reach Tektros he sells.

Hey Mark, your friend's Cheviot is my size. You gotta test it to make sure I'll 
like it! ;-)

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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

How much more tire would that get you, front and rear? The specs say it can 
take a 650B/45 or a 700c/50. That is a ton o' tire. If you really need 
more, brake reach is listed as 65 (Tektro 559?), but if you went with Dia 
Compe 750 centerpulls, would that get you more height (which I assume is 
the limiting factor here?)

Also, complaints about only one water bottle mount on the Cheviots are 
popular. I have lots of bikes with none. Most of my rides I only need  one 
bottle, so I have some version of a clamped on holder. If I figure I will 
be out all of a summer's day, I sometimes supplement with the twofish 
bottle thing. Not the most elegant, but for occasional use it works just 
fine. Or if all your riding is 40+ miles, you could use a clamped cage. The 
Zefal vintage cages are pretty.  I'm about to install one on my dress-up 
bike. Or go super duper old school retro and get a handlebar mounted cage. 
Fun! Or ride with a domestique or two. It's up to you.

BTW, tip of the hat to Joe B for alerting me to the Harris Cheviot. I in 
turn told my friend, and she bought it then hopped in the car and drove 
three hours to pick it up. I'll be seeing it and helping her get fitted 
this Friday. Looking forward to it. Of course I will need to take a bit of 
a test ride!

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, spru...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Joe,
> This will be a cool bike. As long as you're getting the custom paint, did 
> you consider have canti posts added? That's the one thing I wish my Cheviot 
> had but doesn't. The frame has generous clearance, but tire size is limited 
> by the brake calipers. (It's certainly easier to spend your money than my 
> own.)
> David Sprunger
> Fargo, ND
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Joe Bernard  > wrote:
>
>> Whelp, this started as a "let's jump on that sale" journey towards a 
>> Cheviot frame at a pre-sale price in a nice Roadini/RBW Blue...then I lost 
>> my mind. Someone on a Roadini thread mentioned getting a custom color and I 
>> thought, HEY! So I chatted with Will @ Riv and determined I could get 
>> anything I wanted (that fit the bike/decals) from Rick at D I pondered 
>> on this a while and looked at a lot of colors on the internets and decided 
>> a Candy Apple Red Cheviot would be the cat's pajamas. Now my pre-sale 
>> bargain Chev is..not such a bargain! Oops ;-)
>>
>> It's going to be just gorgeous with the cream contrasts, and is sort of 
>> my shot at a poor man's custom 'cause I know I'll never buy (or need) a 
>> true custom. It's also a bit of an homage to the Jimmy Carter bike. His was 
>> an Atlantis and a different shade of red, but that bike is what got me 
>> thinking about a red Riv the other night. I can't wait!
>>
>>
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+carter+rivendell+bike=jimmy+carter+bik=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.16939j0j7=ms-android-verizon=chrome-mobile=UTF-8#imgrc=vzkGNutcbKY_9M
>> :
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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[David Sprunger]

Joe,
This will be a cool bike. As long as you're getting the custom paint, did
you consider have canti posts added? That's the one thing I wish my Cheviot
had but doesn't. The frame has generous clearance, but tire size is limited
by the brake calipers. (It's certainly easier to spend your money than my
own.)
David Sprunger
Fargo, ND

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Whelp, this started as a "let's jump on that sale" journey towards a
> Cheviot frame at a pre-sale price in a nice Roadini/RBW Blue...then I lost
> my mind. Someone on a Roadini thread mentioned getting a custom color and I
> thought, HEY! So I chatted with Will @ Riv and determined I could get
> anything I wanted (that fit the bike/decals) from Rick at D I pondered
> on this a while and looked at a lot of colors on the internets and decided
> a Candy Apple Red Cheviot would be the cat's pajamas. Now my pre-sale
> bargain Chev is..not such a bargain! Oops ;-)
>
> It's going to be just gorgeous with the cream contrasts, and is sort of my
> shot at a poor man's custom 'cause I know I'll never buy (or need) a true
> custom. It's also a bit of an homage to the Jimmy Carter bike. His was an
> Atlantis and a different shade of red, but that bike is what got me
> thinking about a red Riv the other night. I can't wait!
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+carter+rivendell+bike;
> oq=jimmy+carter+bik=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.16939j0j7&
> client=ms-android-verizon=chrome-mobile=UTF-
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[RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[Chris Birkenmaier]

That was me getting the Roadini painted.  Should be there right now in fact.  I 
also considered a red but more like a deep Merlot shade.  Bright red should be 
very pretty

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[RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[WETH]

Joe,
I love my Cheviot.  For the type of riding I enjoy, it is my favorite of the 
Rivs I've owned or own (Atlantis, Romulus, Road Standard).  It is almost the 
perfect bike. One more set of water bottle cage braze-ons  and it is perfect!

It will look stunning in red; can't wait to see photos.

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[RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[MartyG]

Good choice Joe. You won't regret it. Can't wait to see pics. 

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[RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[Joe Bernard]

Whelp, this started as a "let's jump on that sale" journey towards a Cheviot 
frame at a pre-sale price in a nice Roadini/RBW Blue...then I lost my mind. 
Someone on a Roadini thread mentioned getting a custom color and I thought, 
HEY! So I chatted with Will @ Riv and determined I could get anything I wanted 
(that fit the bike/decals) from Rick at D I pondered on this a while and 
looked at a lot of colors on the internets and decided a Candy Apple Red 
Cheviot would be the cat's pajamas. Now my pre-sale bargain Chev is..not such a 
bargain! Oops ;-)

It's going to be just gorgeous with the cream contrasts, and is sort of my shot 
at a poor man's custom 'cause I know I'll never buy (or need) a true custom. 
It's also a bit of an homage to the Jimmy Carter bike. His was an Atlantis and 
a different shade of red, but that bike is what got me thinking about a red Riv 
the other night. I can't wait!

https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+carter+rivendell+bike=jimmy+carter+bik=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.16939j0j7=ms-android-verizon=chrome-mobile=UTF-8#imgrc=vzkGNutcbKY_9M:
  

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