[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

Nice looking bike Eric. The Clem can handle riders of all shapes and sizes and looks like the perfect Bicycle SUV. Albeit a safe and ecologically friendly one. :) Doug Athens, GA On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 7:35:59 PM UTC-4 EricP wrote: > Tried posting two photos. They were too big.

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

Eric, Could you post a photo of your Clem L? I'm in the Lotto and like to see everyone's Clem builds. Doug On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 8:05:18 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote: > In today's bicycle world that would be a gravel bike. I remember seeing > those bikes (not the pink one) at our local

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

In today's bicycle world that would be a gravel bike. I remember seeing those bikes (not the pink one) at our local BMX tracks in late 70s early 80s. I think we called them cruisers but have no idea why. Ha. Doug Athens, GA On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 7:11:06 AM UTC-4 EricP wrote: > Man,

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

Man, those Team Stumpies were definitely cool. Never did ride one. Back when they came out, I was buying a year out of date 1984 Stumpjumper frame with the longer stays and built it up. As a college kid with not much money that's the only way I could do it. Pretty sure it came with the bottom

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

Oh my god!!! That Stumpy is my last remaining personal holy grail dream bike that I could never find and probably don't need. PLEASE keep me in mind if you ever want to get rid of it. (Since it sounds like your kids dont want it.) Regarding the stigma of step-through bikes: I suspect

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

Fantastic Stumpy! Plenty of fans of pink ones - especially the team. Yours looks mint/original. Here's more: 1985 Stumpjumper Review A Legacy of Pink Marty On

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

You think 30 year old men are going to select the women's version of a bike more often than a toad like me? Because they aren't stigmatized? I'll ride a pink Stumpjumper Team occasionally (called a "Barbie bike" by a little girl on the trail). My 30 something son and his friends are freaked out

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

Nice photo J. What tires are you using? Doug On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 7:45:55 PM UTC-4 J Imler wrote: > [image: 84DB0FF5-76CF-459F-923F-B4EA25497F1A.jpeg] > Clem L in East bay hills. Super fun trail riding. > On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:30:45 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: > >> I plan to

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

I plan to put some knobby tires on it and take it on some single track as well as using it for errands and maybe an occasional commute. Clem Els seem to be good all-around bikes. I'd love to see some photos of people's Clem's set up for different uses, various tires, etc. Let's see your Clem L

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

And to plagiarize myself a bit from that convo, some of us older dudes carry a stigma about step-throughs/mixtes that anyone under 30 would consider baffling. In reality it's just a tube brazed down lower on another tube instead of up higher, and most modern road and mountain bikes have

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

Well, I bought a lottery ticket for a Clem and now I wait. Not sure how I feel about this system but it does seem a more fair way to sell the limited amount of bikes. This may be the new normal for awhile until the cargo backlog clears up. I read somewhere that the cost per bike to ship by

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

Aha... Thank you, John, for that note. Must have been a glitch. I just clicked on that link and was able to purchase. Winter is fast approaching here in MI, so we'll prob. have to pickle it until late Spring. - Max " pickles" in A2 On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 2:50:59 PM UTC-4

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

>> Alas, 1.5 hrs between that email being sent and when I checked was apparently more time than it took for all 200 of the lottery tickets to sell out. Maybe >> later folks will start to auction off their "lottery tickets"?.. Not to worry. The lottery tickets are NOT sold out, as of Thursday,

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

Max, I could be wrong, confused or *both* but I just checked the Clem lotto ticket page I can add all color and size combos to my cart. On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 12:45:38 PM UTC-4 John A. Bennett wrote: > Good point, Johnny. We do that for our custom frames. > > For the stock frames,

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

Good point, Johnny. We do that for our custom frames. For the stock frames, the list "sells out," and people are disappointed that they didn't know about the pre-sale. It's not an issue with customs because each bike is made for the person who is ordering it. With stock frames, we order a

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

*Johnny Alien wrote:* > I think the word "presale" is a bit misleading as to what is being > suggested here. The suggestion is that they should start a list like > custom builders do. Lay down that $50 and you are added to the list. When > you are up they contact you and if you have changed

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

I think the word "presale" is a bit misleading as to what is being suggested here. The suggestion is that they should start a list like custom builders do. Lay down that $50 and you are added to the list. When you are up they contact you and if you have changed your mind in the year that it

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

I'm with Jason on this. I would much prefer a pre-sale even if it meant waiting a year, knowing said __ is on the horizon would be comforting. John is right.there is no perfect scenario. Strange times we're living in. I feel fortunate to have an Atlantis and would love an Appaloosa (as

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

As we have discovered, there's no perfect method these days. Pre-selling is *still* based on a specific number of frames/bikes. That's how we have to order them: "100 of _, please." And when the pre-sale "sells out" and someone didn't know about it, they're just as disappointed and

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

I missed out on a Platypus frame. I had one in my cart and then it disappeared in the time it took to click purchase. I think the lottery system is more fair than the present. I would be happy to pre-order, but many places that do so also sellout very quickly. I guess the next iteration is a

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

As someone who has waited 3+ years for kickstarters etc, I'm with Jason on the preorder idea. I'd rather wait a really long time for something I will definitely get eventually. The new way of having to follow the social medias and trying to get in on limited runs, etc is exhausting and puts

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

I'm sure it's not intentional, but it's kind of funny to me that the way Riv sort of hypes up the drop of each frame several times over the weeks and days leading up to a sale, combined with talk of how few frames there are and how long it'll be before more come (no doubt because they're trying

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

In addition to the attemp to make it fair, I think the $50 is just "ernest money." If they didn't ask for that, there'd be untold numbers of people putting their names in the hat without a firm commitment to buy. No point in wasting time on tire-kickers (or, worse, scalpers/speculators)

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

I mean it IS essentially a raffle ticket. You buy a ticket and it gets randomly selected. The only difference is that you get a refund if you aren't selected. I think the idea on their side is all of the people that don't get the bike will maybe just keep the $50 in credit so that it leads to

[RBW] Re: Clem Lotto

I think it solves the "everybody click at once at noon then a bunch of people are pissed off" problem, but I guarantee - no matter how many times Will explains it - that someone is going to think they bought a $50 raffle ticket. Fun! Joe "ooh, a LimeOlive Clem I don't need..." Bernard On