[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-03-11 Thread Mark Roland
Couple of thoughts. On Wednesday, March 4, 2020 , James / Analog Cycles wrote: "*For starters, the effective angle between the center of the usable portion of the saddle rails and the center of the bottom bracket is not the seat tube angle. Let’s call that angle the effective saddle fore and

[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-03-11 Thread James / Analog Cycles
FWIW, stems are only a part of steering and handling. Bar shape and sweep have as much if not more to do with handling, as well as trail, fork offset, hta, tires, tire pressure and stiffness. Any change on a bike will require getting used to the change. As a long time fitter, I have found

Re: [RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-03-05 Thread Patrick Moore
I believe James makes a very valid point, as long as one understands it properly, and it is this: for proper bike set up -- taking into account all the imponderables such as individual build and personal pedaling style and personal fit preferences -- one ought to start with saddle setback,

[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-03-05 Thread LBleriot
I'm not sure this true for every rider/circumstance. I've purchased a couple of custom bikes over my 40+ years of riding and purchased them with setback seatposts and shortish stems to accommodate my somewhat long legs and short arms. As I've grown older and suffered injuries which impact how

Re: [RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-03-05 Thread Steven Frederick
Well...maybe not for everyone. Moving my saddle forward to near KOPS cured some nagging lower back pain for me. I happily use zero setback posts on all my bikes, which are mostly 73 degree seat tubes give or take 1/2 degree. Steve On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 4:33 PM James / Analog Cycles wrote: >

[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-03-04 Thread James / Analog Cycles
A few things about drop bars on Riv's, shortening reach to bars, and short stems. 1. Putting a zero offset post on your bike is not a valid way to shorten reach. It's like cutting the toe box out of your shoes because they're too short. The answer isn't shoe destruction, it's to

[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-02-27 Thread Adam Leibow
if anyone is interest, i have a crust BJ stem which is effectively the same as the Analog Wright stem. slip into my DM if u need it. [image: nsilvershortsmallsideview-1024x683.jpg] On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 4:00:13 AM UTC-8, John G. wrote: > > I have a bunch of parts in need of a

[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-02-27 Thread Lester Lammers
This may of interest: https://www.analogcycles.com/product/analog-wright-stem/ On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 7:00:13 AM UTC-5, John G. wrote: > > I have a bunch of parts in need of a 700c frame, so I’ve been pondering my > next build. I miss my old Atlantis, though I traded it for my

[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-02-27 Thread Brett Callahan
Hi John, I have a 59 MIT Atlantis set up with the Crust towel rack bars (in the smallest size, which are about 615 wide). I've used a short stem (Nitto Dirt Drop in 8CM) and a zero setback seatpost to minimize the length of the top tube and long effective reach of those bars. It's a comfy

[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-02-26 Thread DHans
Interesting that Riv removed the geo charts and Grant choses not to discuss it with a customer. Does he suspect people overthink subtle geometrical differences? Sort of a rhetorical question but I do wonder. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-02-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
If I were determined to buy a drop bar ruff-stuff touring bike from Rivendell Bicycle Works today, I'd probably buy a 54cm Appaloosa. I could make that work with a drop bar. Bill On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 4:33:01 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote: > > Daniel and Bill and others,

[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-02-26 Thread Daniel Jackson
Thanks Bill. Trivially easy for those who know what a way back machine is. Here’s to looking sheepishly back up your nose. D. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-02-26 Thread Mike Williams
Daniel and Bill and others, you can compare different model frames fairly easily on bikeinsights, assuming that all numbers are correct. https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries%5B%5D=5e1faf637f17da00170c6e28%5B%5D=5ad1288a9127aa0014fa1d9c%5B%5D=%5B%5D= Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 26,

[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-02-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
Daniel Jackson It's trivially easy to find the previous geometry chart via the wayback machine. I just looked it up, on a Sept 23, 2019 snapshot of rivbike.com. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 4:13:12 PM UTC-8, Daniel Jackson wrote: > > John, > > Bill I

[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-02-26 Thread Jim M.
Here's a famous MIT Atlantis with drops: https://theradavist.com/2019/01/ultra-romance-and-his-rivendell-atlantis-mountain-bike/ On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 4:00:13 AM UTC-8, John G. wrote: > > I have a bunch of parts in need of a 700c frame, so I’ve been pondering my > next build. I

[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-02-26 Thread Chris L
Unless you are going for a super upright riding position, I don't see why the bullmoose wouldn't work on your Atlantis. The Whatbar? site shows the grip portion of the bullmoose coming further back than the the center of the head tube. I've ridden a bike with a 60cm ETT (10 less than the

[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-02-26 Thread LBleriot
I set up mine with Nitto B135 drop bars and bar end shifters. First, you'll need to add about 8 links to any chain and you might need a longer rear derailleur cable to accommodate the longer chainstays. Second, I used a zero offset seatpost and a shortish stem to close up the extended reach

[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-02-26 Thread Steve Cole
Hi John, To start, I am far from being as expert as many of the regulars in this discussion group. That said, I have three Riv bikes now and have an MIT Atlantis that will be coming my way in the next few weeks. When I purchased my first Riv bike, an A. Homer Hilsen, I switched out the

[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

2020-02-26 Thread 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have a friend that has a 59 MIT Atlantis with drops and he loves it. He just set it up with a shorter stem. gary On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 9:45:19 AM UTC-5, Matt Beecher wrote: > > I did on the older 56 and liked it. I normally ride a 58-60 cm frame > though. > > Best regards, >