I ride a 56 cm Sam. It used to feel too heavy to be my go-fast, but then I
sold my go-fast (run of the mill trek road bike), so my Sam has to do it
all. I've got it with a schmidt dynohub, 7spd, all the usual Riv bits,
including Marathon Extremes. I do ride with clipless ATACs though. I ride
I think those bikes are built by the same manufacturer in Taiwan so is the
quality control on the Sam Hillborne much better than on the SOMA?
On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 7:06:58 PM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote:
Thanks Aaron! I agree, the front brake caliper in the photo is out of
The build quality looks identical in both frames, however the paint job on
the San Marcos is not as good as on the Hillborne. All of the lugs appear
to be identical with the exception of the lower headtube lug on the
SM---more windows and more decorative.
On Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Thanks Aaron! I agree, the front brake caliper in the photo is out of
tolerance--this is my primary gripe about the San Marcos. My 54cm SM uses a
standard (47-57) reach caliper up front and a long reach (55-73) caliper at
the back. I'm not sure if this is a design flaw or an operator error. For
Those are both such great looking setups. I'm saving that photo.
Ryan
On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 7:06:58 PM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote:
Thanks Aaron! I agree, the front brake caliper in the photo is out of
tolerance--this is my primary gripe about the San Marcos. My 54cm SM uses a
Agreed. But for me at least, go fast is purely a feel, as nothing with me
aboard will be going fast by any objective measure! It's more about a
lively and responsive quality that I don't think is purely related to
weight or anything in particular. My Sam just never felt anything but
stout,
Thanks a bunch for the write up and pictures Tony, great info.
On Sunday, December 2, 2012 1:42:46 PM UTC-6, Tony Lockhart wrote:
Ryan,
I actually have both bikes and have some thoughts to share with you
regarding both. Perhaps some of my experiences can help with your decision
on which
Tony,
Quick head's up on your brake reach issue. Looks like you're using the
wrong brake up front — and that's why the brake pads are high in the slots.
Only the 650B sizes of the San Marcos (i.e. 47, 51) use the long reach
Tektro 559 (55-73mm). The 700c sizes use standard reach brakes (47-57
It should be pointed out that a whole lot more goes into making a bike a
go fast than just the frame and fork. Roadeo's are fast because they are
often built with fairly lightweight parts, especially wheels. If you end
up going for for the San Marcos, especially in a smaller size like your, I
On Sunday, December 2, 2012 9:01:49 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote:
It should be pointed out that a whole lot more goes into making a bike a
go fast than just the frame and fork.
Agree. How much lighter is a Roadeo than a SM? That difference basically
disappears under the rider. Grant
Figure out which wheel size you want to commit to, and there's your answer.
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't know how much visuals play into it for you, but the Marcos doesn't
have that classic fork curve like the Rivendells do. Have you seen it? Very
Thanks for all the replies,
One the go fast bike, I was planning on using brifters, probably something
from Sram as I prefer their hood shape. I am not exactly light, about 200
and still a short dude so I do have some weight to get off me. Light weight
really isn't a huge consideration on
Ryan,
I actually have both bikes and have some thoughts to share with you
regarding both. Perhaps some of my experiences can help with your decision
on which frame to purchase.
I bought a Sam Hillborne a couple of years back and went through a number
of drivetrain and accessory changes. It's
RJM: don't appologize for Looks. They are, IMO, the best road pedals
out there. I have older-model Look Keo Pluses or Maxes or whatever the
intermediate level is, and I like them very much (a) for the large,
comfortable platform and (b) for the secure lock in feeling that in
no way implies a
If you want a really really nice and super affordable road frameset,
consider the road frame from Black Mountain Cycles in Point Reyes Station.
It's not as fancy as the Roadeo, but takes wider road tires like a Roadeo
and/or takes fenders with medium sized road tires. It's an absolute steal
130.
On Sunday, December 2, 2012 10:42:45 AM UTC-8, RJM wrote:
Thanks for all the replies,
One the go fast bike, I was planning on using brifters, probably something
from Sram as I prefer their hood shape. I am not exactly light, about 200
and still a short dude so I do have some
I'm pretty sure the SOMA would be a good go-fast, but don't kid yourself:
That Roadeo is the bee's knees, and you want it. Get an old Bridgestone
RB-2 off Craigslist as a stop-gap while you save your pennies, then flip it
when Roadeo time comes. Tis my thoughts, anyway.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo,
I'd be curious if you could set the San Marcos up with Grand Bois
Hetres. Seems like it would make a nice go fast bike and you'd still
have the benefit of clearance for bigger tires, fenders and even the
ability to attach a rear rack. I say go for it.
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I faced the same dilemma recently, and chose the San Marcos.
Haven't had a moment's regret. Best handling bike I've ever ridden.
And that includes a Ram and a AHH.
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Ryan:
If you really lust after a Roadeo, the San Marcos may feel like a
compromise. Only you can sort that one out. Since Grant designed them
both, I expect the two would perform similarly if equipped with the same
wheels, components, etc.
The Roadeo has been out a couple of years now.
The WTB ad is a good idea, Doug. I might have to try that.
I really like the blue color of the San Marcos, pretty nice shade of blue.
On Saturday, December 1, 2012 7:12:11 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
Ryan:
If you really lust after a Roadeo, the San Marcos may feel like a
compromise. Only
Don't know how much visuals play into it for you, but the Marcos doesn't
have that classic fork curve like the Rivendells do. Have you seen it? Very
modern looking.
If you are only talking saving up another grand for the Roadeo, I would
just wait and get what I really wanted.
Let us
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