Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 5:52 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: [Snippo]: I have to have my body at a certain angle that allows my core muscles to best support my weight, instead of my hands. I find this to be very true. -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

At one time I was also guilty of putting my seat way forward but I tried it Grant's way and now I always push it all the way back. I haven't yet been able to make closer handlebars work. I always ran them that way and I always had issues with hand numbness and pain. It was only thru an

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

Chris and Mitch: Thanks; at least plausible explanations. As I said elsewhere, in experimenting with setting up the bar for the Matthews over the last year, I've gradually lowered the bar by a total of about 2 inches, and extended the stem by 1 cm. (The last 9 mm reduction in height was by

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

Yeah, it's probably meaningless. Maybe it's just that my own bike balance has improved over the years. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

I'm not sure that test is valid. I am unable to ride my AHH for more than a few seconds without my hands on the bars. But, I suspect that is more me being unbalanced than the bike. Tim On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Brewster Fong wrote: > > > On Friday, July 28, 2017 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 12:16:47 PM UTC-7, Jay Connolly wrote: > > I was intrigued by this number, as well. I heard an interview with Grant > somewhere in which he expressed reluctance to excite the hostile, loveless > bike-frame geometers of the interwebs, and I don't blame him. I've

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

I was intrigued by this number, as well. I heard an interview with Grant somewhere in which he expressed reluctance to excite the hostile, loveless bike-frame geometers of the interwebs, and I don't blame him. I've owned 15 or more steel bikes in the last 20 years, and only on the Rivs have I

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

That's a nice explanation that is more specific than my general thoughts along those lines. I have a 1984 Trek 830 ATB that handles like a dream and it has long chainstays, a low bb and what I consider a short F-C (580mm ett). I found that to get comfortable on the bike, I needed a low

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 10:51:12 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I'd be *very* interested to learn more about this, and how it relates to > f-c, trail, hta, tires, and so forth. Anyone? > Keeping the right balance of weight on the front wheel helps with that nice turn-in you describe.

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

The only thing I can think of is weight distribution. To me, lower handlbars (ie, more weight on the front wheel) feels better than higher handlebars (less weight on front wheel). It's always a balancing act between handling and comfort. I hope there is some secret that will give me both!

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

I'd be *very* interested to learn more about this, and how it relates to f-c, trail, hta, tires, and so forth. Anyone? On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:04 AM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > [Snippo ...] > 3) Grant has made a similar comment on

[RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

Yeah. Front center is where my mind immediately went. I feel like he's said that pretty explicitly at some point, about how front center is more important to him than trail. I could very well be misremembering though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

Caught my attention as well and I hope it becomes a topic for discussion. Some of my thoughts on what it might be: 1) Riv geo charts always list a front-center measurement. I think most bike companies don't list this measurement. 2) I remember Grant referencing a shorter front-end and a

[RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

That part really caught my attention. It lends credence to the notion that trail can't be talked about in isolation, but is just one element of the complete design. Given Grant's refusal to get into the scrum of trail discussions, we'll all just have to keep guessing what the magic parameter

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

Bill L had an idea -- front center; this is another guess. Perhaps it's both. All I know is that they've discovered a magic elixer of some sort. And let the meanies bite. Their refutation is in the ride quality. On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Peter Turskovitch wrote:

[RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

Grant, from the interview: "Also, there’s another steering/bike handling parameter that probably matters more, although it’s far less well-known than trail is. Everybody at Rivendell knows what it is, we have a name for it, and all of our bikes are designed with it in mind. That’s true whether

[RBW] Re: Grant Petersen Interview up on the Gravel & Grind website

Thanks James, I enjoyed it. Will your shop do another Bridgestone/Rivendell owners ride this year? I missed last year's. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

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James: Thanks for the link. Great interview. A second piece chronicaling the ride would be welcome. dougP On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 2:01:00 PM UTC-7, Gravel & Grind Espresso + Bikes wrote: > > Hey all, > > Candice, our mechanic here at Gravel & Grind, recently went to Riv HQ and >