Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-30 Thread Garth
Ahahahahahaahahahahahaahaha !!! Very good Leah :-) On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 4:36:11 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: It’s about to get sillier. I made a video in response to Patrick’s thread. I’m attaching it as a link here, since it’s too big to include in the

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-29 Thread Steve
Dingding - I LOVE it !!!Might just be one of the best bicycle videos I've yet to see on the internet. Great soundtrack too! Thanks for sharing. (Please invite me to your Webby Awards "Best Video award" party) On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 4:36:11 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-29 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
It’s about to get sillier. I made a video in response to Patrick’s thread. I’m attaching it as a link here, since it’s too big to include in the text. I changed my Instagram to public for this, but I’ll switch it back to private soon, so watch it before I do! I’m on a roll over there with

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-29 Thread Steve
"My bike is lighter than a bike that's heavier than my bike but heavier than a bike that's lighter than my bike. True story. " Now Joe, that's just silly. Come to think of it, this whole thread is just silly - which is probably why I keep following it ; ) On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 11:30:26 

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
My bike is lighter than a bike that's heavier than my bike but heavier than a bike that's lighter than my bike. True story. On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 5:43:55 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: > https://youtu.be/R3Uf4OKYqzs > > The narrator is Phil Ligget's brother. > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread Patrick Moore
https://youtu.be/R3Uf4OKYqzs The narrator is Phil Ligget's brother. On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 6:37 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > Now that's interesting. Watch even older videos of Coppi and Bartalli on > climbs and on the flats; 50 rpm standing in a 62" gear, and -- Coppi -- 120 > rpm bursts in a

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Now that's interesting. Watch even older videos of Coppi and Bartalli on climbs and on the flats; 50 rpm standing in a 62" gear, and -- Coppi -- 120 rpm bursts in a 93" high alternating with coasting on the flats (48 X 14-21 4 speed); much as I used to ride (we pros share a great deal) with the

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
I’m going to make a video in which I lift my pair of Platypuses over my head. Racks. Bags. The whole bit. You can’t do that with your Monocog! 藍 On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 8:27:01 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > I twiddle, thou twiddlest, he/she/it twiddeleth, we twiddle, y'all > twiddle,

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread Patrick Moore
I twiddle, thou twiddlest, he/she/it twiddeleth, we twiddle, y'all twiddle, they twiddle. I expect that if you repeat "twiddle" rapidly 1,000 times while breathing very shallowly and rapidly you will receive some sort of enlightenment. On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 5:52 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > I

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread Garth
Yep Patrick and Steve that's what I do. Spinning fast uphill in a tiny gear = going nowhere in a hurry and running out of breath. Going uphill in the largest gear I can get away with while pedaling slow and steady = very efficient in terms of propulsion forward, strength and breathing long,

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
I twiddle, I'm a big twiddler. Twiddling my life away. On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 4:23:39 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: > I think Garth does what I do, which is to shove back to the end of the > saddle, put hands on ramps or flats, and push the crank forward and around > at top dead center

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread Patrick Moore
I think Garth does what I do, which is to shove back to the end of the saddle, put hands on ramps or flats, and push the crank forward and around at top dead center in a highish gear; right, Garth? Me, I expect there are as many different climbing styles as there are gearing patterns, and perhaps

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread Steve
In the words of Sly Stone, "Different strokes for different folks". Nuff said. On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 4:52:23 PM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote: > On big climbs do you ride in the drops of with hands on the ramps. Steve > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 1:32 PM Garth wrote: > >> There's nothing

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread Steven Sweedler
On big climbs do you ride in the drops of with hands on the ramps. Steve On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 1:32 PM Garth wrote: > There's nothing to get Patrick as how you've explained how you > position/ride is quite "natural" to me. That said, I never have or will > ride a bike with very, very high

[RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread Garth
There's nothing to get Patrick as how you've explained how you position/ride is quite "natural" to me. That said, I never have or will ride a bike with very, very high bars. I won't say it's impossible to sit very upright and spin up steep hills, but it's surely awkward and inefficient to sit

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
I have a 50. Granny Joe Bernard On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 9:48:17 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: > Yes, I meant those huge inner cogs. I don't know if they actually get to > 52 teeth but I believe they've reached 50. > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 6:48 AM lconley wrote: > >> 52 tooth granny

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Yes, I meant those huge inner cogs. I don't know if they actually get to 52 teeth but I believe they've reached 50. On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 6:48 AM lconley wrote: > 52 tooth granny cog on the freewheel, I assume. > I use the term granny for the small chainwheel on the crank, but others > may

[RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread DavidP
Traditionally I think that's been the most common use of the term "granny gear" in the context of bicycle gearing, though it's likely due to the fact that for a long time the only way to get gearing low enough for your grandmother to push was to put a small chainring up front. With modern

[RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread lconley
52 tooth granny cog on the freewheel, I assume. I use the term granny for the small chainwheel on the crank, but others may not. Laing On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 12:32:01 AM UTC-4 Philip Williamson wrote: > 52 tooth granny cog? > > Philip > SR, CA > > On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 6:08:22 

[RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-28 Thread Doug H.
I lean forward but not downward with the Tosco bars on my Clem. I get neck pain when the forward lean is also downward over long distances so the bars being above the saddle is my preference. The grip portion of the bars does sit me upright but the bars have a couple of forward areas that I use

[RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-27 Thread Philip Williamson
52 tooth granny cog? Philip SR, CA On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 6:08:22 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: > OTOH: this is puzzling: I see so many Rivendells on this list with very, > very high bars, but with 52 tooth granny cogs; IOW gearing designed for > low-torque fast-cadence twiddling. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-27 Thread Patrick Moore
I'm sorry, what logic are we talking about? I shove back and sit up for low-cadence, high-torque pedaling, and I move forward and down when I want to spin fast. My riding includes both extremes but it also includes the entire middle ground. So again, I don't understand "logic." Patrick Moore,

Re: [RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-27 Thread Brian Turner
That logic would only make sense if most of your riding exists in either of those two extremes.On Apr 27, 2023, at 9:15 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:I sit upright because I like it and I use really low gears because the hills are steep.  On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 6:08:22 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore

[RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-27 Thread Joe Bernard
I sit upright because I like it and I use really low gears because the hills are steep. On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 6:08:22 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: > OTOH: this is puzzling: I see so many Rivendells on this list with very, > very high bars, but with 52 tooth granny cogs; IOW gearing

[RBW] Re: Heck, even my Monocog is lighter than your Platypus. [Monocog with Specialized Hover bar]

2023-04-27 Thread Patrick Moore
OTOH: this is puzzling: I see so many Rivendells on this list with very, very high bars, but with 52 tooth granny cogs; IOW gearing designed for low-torque fast-cadence twiddling. I don't get it. When I spin I move forward and down; when I torque I shove back and sit up. What gives? Someone