Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-06-02 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Yes, the blessed sixth season... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opzaBVwHy_I On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 7:15:03 AM UTC-7, Chris Chen wrote: In the words of fat tony, that's a fine looking model. It would be a shame if it where to be cracks knuckles discontinued On Wed, May 27, 2015 at

[RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-06-02 Thread Philip Kim
yep seems like for awhile. I'm looking at the black and cream, but the sage also looks good and on sale.. On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 12:55:18 AM UTC-4, Reid wrote: Just received the latest email from Riv. Highlights the black Sam frames coming in, mentions frames coming in of the usual

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-06-02 Thread Chris Chen
In the words of fat tony, that's a fine looking model. It would be a shame if it where to be cracks knuckles discontinued On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:55 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Sleeping with the fish. Once a Riv goes away, it doesn't come back. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Not that this is thread drift or anything... My Ram has 62.3mm of trail, the Saluki had 61.5. Both intended for no more than a light front bag like a L'il Loafer. They track around curvy descents like they are on rails. Love it. My Road has 53.8mm of trail and the Waterford 1100 I used to pedal

[RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread iamkeith
On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 11:39:52 PM UTC-6, drew wrote: anyone in the bay area see the protovelo frame they have in back? i visited for the first time last weekend, saw it, and they described it as like a sam, but with cantis and bigger clearances. it will probably be out in a

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have my Luxos U mounted on the front of a Mark's Rack on my Hilsen. I love it. There's no wheel shadow to deal with like when I had it on the fork crown. I assume mounting on the side of the rack would cast quite a shadow as well. Handlebar mounting would probably do the same but I like to

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread David Banzer
Agreed. Riv won't be making a low trail rando bike - and I'd doubt they'd do that even as a custom. There are plenty of builders available to make those types of bikes though. David Chicago On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 11:19:10 AM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote: On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 11:20:07 PM

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread Lungimsam
A super lightweight, thin walled, low trailed, canti'd, Rivrando machine with an integrated SILVER front rack with light mount on the USA side of the rack and integrated light wiring/carbon brush in the steerer would make me very interested. And it's something they haven't done before. And it

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread Joe Bernard
I think the Sam will be back, as the Appaloosa and Clem are both niche bikes. Mr. Hillborne strikes me as the Standard Riv which all others kind of branch off. If you remember motorcycles back in the '80s, we had the Standard, which was a basic do-everything bike you just called a motorcycle;

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Sweet tech drawings of the 4 Sam sizes on the blug right now... Is love the same at for my two Ribs as garage wall hangers! The constant product development/tweaking from Riv is one of the more entertaining elements of this company. In my mind it also highlights the Atlantis for its relatively

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread Lungimsam
I'm calling the non-drive side of the bike the USA side. I don't think there is a right or wrong side to install a light, though. Just personal preference. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread Tim Gavin
That sounds like an awesome bike. For my information, what is the USA side of the front rack for light mounting? Is one side or the other more traditional? This question was bandied about a couple weeks ago, and I thought it came down to personal preference. Personally, I set up two bikes with

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread Ginz
Spot on, Jim. The long reach brake changed everything. I'm *still* looking for one of those centerpull'd Salukis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread Jim Bronson
What Lungimsam said. It would also make an excellent rando bike, which is 50% of my usage, the other 50% being recreational rides. About the comment about the USA side...some USA riders install their dyno lights on the right side even though they have the option to install on the left. I guess

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Does the Rivendell model accommodate low trail? I rather hope Riv doesn't jump on the low trail bandwagon, and that they keep their signature handling -- though, to the extent that they push Wald baskets and big front racks, they may well be tending in that direction. Glad I got my customs when I

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread Lungimsam
I am calling it the USA side because it puts the light in the travel lane when riding on the shoulder or near the fog line in the USA. Any mounting position that works to ones taste is the correct mounting position of course. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread Jim M.
On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 11:20:07 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: A super lightweight, thin walled, low trailed, canti'd, Rivrando machine with an integrated SILVER front rack with light mount on the USA side of the rack and integrated light wiring/carbon brush in the steerer would make me

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-28 Thread Will
I think this low trail vs high trail issue is overly philosophized. When I was delivering newspapers, years ago, I needed a bike designed for 40 pound front loads. Worksman makes them. If I did 200K randoneurring, like Jan Heine, I'd want a very fast bike that carried 8 pounds of stuff in

[RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-27 Thread Garth
last ones ? I think not ! For example , the 64cm. Sams are built by Waterford to order . Yes, they cost more , $2k I believe but so what . If these can be made in a 64 to order, then I see no reason why if at any time any size can also be made by them for the same price if someone

[RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-27 Thread dougP
The blug says last batch for a while, then goes on to say they need to make room for the Clems. So they don't plan to retire Sam but my guess is that if you want one in the immediate future now's the time to jump on it. Sam Clem are relatively affordable compared to an Atlantis or

[RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-27 Thread RoadieRyan
Um I think you have just described the Rodeo On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 12:49:44 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: I'd like to see a super lightweight tubing Rivendell road bike made for upright, or low bars set up. Why pedal around anymore bulk than necessary, and they already have

[RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-27 Thread Lungimsam
I'd like to see a super lightweight tubing Rivendell road bike made for upright, or low bars set up. Why pedal around anymore bulk than necessary, and they already have plenty-o-beefy frames on the roster for touring/heavy loading as is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-27 Thread Garth
One of my bikes is a lovely custom Franklin sport/touring frame from 1999 , made with Reynolds 531 ST(super tourist) , which is slightly heavier than the C , competition . I had it made intending it as a road bike and used it like that for many years . A few years ago I changed the setup

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-27 Thread cyclotourist
Sleeping with the fish. Once a Riv goes away, it doesn't come back. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Reid reidp...@earthlink.net wrote: On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 4:00:04 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote: Hmm, Here's a snippet from an RBW newsletter in 2007: We have introduced a new model

[RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-27 Thread Reid
On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 4:00:04 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote: Hmm, Here's a snippet from an RBW newsletter in 2007: We have introduced a new model (A. Homer Hilsen) recently, and some others are coming up, so rather than overwhelm ourselves with too many models, we're putting the

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-27 Thread James Warren
As great as the Ram is, and as great as it was in the Riv lineup, it sort of lost some of its unique mission when the Silver brake and the AHH came along - the bikes evolved. Now I'm not going to say that the Ram and AHH are interchangeable, but my point is that a lot of factors go into these

[RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-27 Thread drew
anyone in the bay area see the protovelo frame they have in back? i visited for the first time last weekend, saw it, and they described it as like a sam, but with cantis and bigger clearances. it will probably be out in a couple of years. that's all the info i got, and for my personal needs,

Re: [RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-27 Thread James Warren
Yes! That's Joe Appaloosa. On May 27, 2015, at 10:39 PM, drew wrote: anyone in the bay area see the protovelo frame they have in back? i visited for the first time last weekend, saw it, and they described it as like a sam, but with cantis and bigger clearances. it will probably be out in

[RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-27 Thread Fullylugged
Hmm, Here's a snippet from an RBW newsletter in 2007: We have introduced a new model (A. Homer Hilsen) recently, and some others are coming up, so rather than overwhelm ourselves with too many models, we're putting the Rambouillet to sleep for a while. The alarm clock is set for sometime in

[RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-26 Thread drew
seems like a hiatus of at least a year. the ominous tone and the upcoming projects make me think it will be more than that. i was up there last weekend and they said that they received about 100 frames in this last shipment. speaking as someone who bought a sam when they financially really