Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-17 Thread Reed Kennedy
Following up on the Great Roadeo Tubing Debate: I've been using a piece of industrial testing equipment to measure wall thickness in bike frames. Last weekend I was fortunate enough to measure a Roadeo, Rambouillet, A. Homer Hilsen, and Hunqapillar all in similar sizes. (Thanks to Ben Miller!)

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-04 Thread Reed Kennedy
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:24 PM Kainalu V. wrote: > In jestish, so yes, kiddingly not kidding. And your friend's bike rules! > What's the dims on that monster? > If memory serves it's a 67cm frame with 650B wheels. I think he said his PBH is 101cm! Cheers, Reed -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-04 Thread Kainalu V.
In jestish, so yes, kiddingly not kidding. And your friend's bike rules! What's the dims on that monster? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-04 Thread Brian Campbell
Reed, I arrived at the same conclusion. Although, I did pick up a 62cm c-t Riv Custom from 2001 to scratch the super light weight itch! No provisions for racks and it will fit 32mm tires and fenders. It is a very nice ride. On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 4:08:39 PM UTC-4, Reed Kennedy wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-04 Thread Reed Kennedy
Dang, thanks so much Brian! I have learned so much by derailing this poor thread! As someone who just picked up a 65cm Hilsen and then found himself wondering if he'd be better served by a Roadeo the info from Mark you shared is music to my ears. The Hilsen fits better, takes a bigger tire, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-04 Thread Brian Campbell
This is an e-mail exchange I had with Mark at Riv a few years back. I think it s his way of telling me that the the ultra lightweight tubing is in the smaller sized Roadeos only. YMMV. Hi Brian, In sizes 59cm and up, the tube spec is pretty similar between the Roadeo and Hilsen. So,

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-04 Thread Kainalu V.
Just keep adding tubes until it's perfect! -Kai BKNY On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 1:09:57 AM UTC-4, Reed Kennedy wrote: > > Yeah, I’ve never heard of a frame that thin gauge in a size that big. > Probably because it won’t work well. But nobody seems to know for sure as > nobody I’ve talked

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Reed Kennedy
Yeah, I’ve never heard of a frame that thin gauge in a size that big. Probably because it won’t work well. But nobody seems to know for sure as nobody I’ve talked to has tried it. I think I know someone who’d build me such a thing, I’m just stalling because I’m hesitant to spend money (and ask a

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Ian A
Reed: A 747 standard tubing frame in that size would be unusual. I wonder if Norther/Lyon would do a one-off for you? Wouldn't hurt to ask https://northercycles.squarespace.com/jeff-lyon-colaboration/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Based in my experience with os rivtubing bikes: Bleriot -8/5/8- excellent on flats and downhills/bogs down going uphill. Both 53 and 55cm frames. Sam Hillborne-same exact ride as Bleriot. 52cm blue frame. Rambouillet- 8/5/8 but thinner walled stays and ST than Sam and Bleriot. Alot easier uphill

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Reed Kennedy
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 8:22 PM Ian A wrote: > Reed wrote: " > > I'm still sorta stunned Grant spec'd anything with tubing that thin, but > there it is in black and white. Sorry I doubted you!" > > Bear in mind, the tubing referenced is OS tubing. The equivalent would be > somehere between 858

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Ian A
Reed wrote: " I'm still sorta stunned Grant spec'd anything with tubing that thin, but there it is in black and white. Sorry I doubted you!" Bear in mind, the tubing referenced is OS tubing. The equivalent would be somehere between 858 and 969 in standard "skinny" tubing. You might also verify

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Ian A
Bear in mind, it is OS tubing. Somehere between 858 and 969 in standard "skinny" tubing. IanA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Reed Kennedy
Dang, good call Lum! Thanks for the interview link, I'm looking forward to reading through. I'm still sorta stunned Grant spec'd anything with tubing that thin, but there it is in black and white. Sorry I doubted you! I suppose now the question is... Could I get a 63cm to fit? Hmm... Best,

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Reed: Scroll down to question #5: http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=376 Grant tells all !!! 6/4/6!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Yes. In an cyclofiend jim interview Grant said Roadeo 6/.45/6 DT/TT It is on cycjim’s site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Jim M.
Mark once showed me the specs they sent to the frame builder for Legolas and Roadeo. They have the same tubing for top and seat tubes, fork blades and chain stays but I don't remember those thicknesses. The Legolas downtube is slightly heavier at .7/.5/.7 vs .65/.45/65 for the Roadeo. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Reed Kennedy
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 10:24 AM Lum Gim Fong wrote: > Roadeos are so fast!!! > 6/4/6 DT and TT > Lum, I find that hard to believe. Can you support that claim? Best, Reed Kennedy San Francisco, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Jock Dewey
Hey, William: I'm having a little trouble with reply RBW, so will try this. I'm very interested in your 59 cm ROADEO. Do you have pictures and can you tell me a little about it? I'll pull trigger quickly if all's right. Thanks! BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA On Monday, September 3, 2018 at

[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Roadeos are so fast!!! 6/4/6 DT and TT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Jock Dewey
Hey, William: I'm very interested in your 59 cm ROADEO. Do you have pictures and can you tell me a little about it? I'll pull trigger quickly if all's right. Thanks! BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 12:01:29 PM UTC-4, William! wrote: > > Def interested in that

[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Jock Dewey
On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 2:23:53 PM UTC-4, Forrest wrote: > > In the next few weeks I will likely post for sale here (if allowed to) a > blue Rambouillet 60cm and a copper (new penny) Legolas 59cm. Ideally both > as nearly complete bikes (minus just a few parts). I’d rather not part

[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Jock Dewey
On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 2:23:53 PM UTC-4, Forrest wrote: > > In the next few weeks I will likely post for sale here (if allowed to) a > blue Rambouillet 60cm and a copper (new penny) Legolas 59cm. Ideally both > as nearly complete bikes (minus just a few parts). I’d rather not part

[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

2018-09-03 Thread Jock Dewey
On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 2:23:53 PM UTC-4, Forrest wrote: > > In the next few weeks I will likely post for sale here (if allowed to) a > blue Rambouillet 60cm and a copper (new penny) Legolas 59cm. Ideally both > as nearly complete bikes (minus just a few parts). I’d rather not part