Re: [RBW] Re: Midge, again
Thanks, Kellie. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't tell you, I really like these bars. Hope the pix helped. On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:08:02 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I like that Vaya a lot! On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.s...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:54:42 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: A woman on this list declared her intention a month or so ago to install a Midge. I'd be interested in hearing her opinion of it, and learning how she set it up. Me, I am still of mixed minds. (Howzat for a weird metaphor.) On the one hand, it is, both overall one of the better compromises for on- and off-road; the hoods are better than those of the 46 cm Noodles (which were too damn' wide) and the hooks, tho' even wider, are as comfortable because so much nearer and shallower. Compared to 42 cm Noodles, the Midge is as comfortable on the hoods (this is where, for me, the Midge shines) but considerably less so in the hooks -- again, width and, also, because you simply can't set up the hooks to be parallel to the ground: they are far too shallow and short. OTOH, the 42 Noodles were useless on anything except firm surfaces, while the Midge is wide enough even at the hoods to offer considerable leverage and, in the hooks, gives all the control you need. My problems with the Midge are (1) the great width in the hooks and (2) how the slanted hooks make my very sensitive left palm suffer. This last may be helped with even more added padding. As to the first, I am wondering if I should lower the bar (currently ~2 cm above saddle) a cm or two and use the hooks, not the hoods, as the cruising position. But this means that, off road, the hooks will be hard to use on steep drop-offs where you need maximum grip and braking. Perhaps the solution is to have a separate off-road bike that I can set up without any compromise for road riding ... -- __ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. __ Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes see http://resumespecialties.com/index.html Email patric...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- __ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. __ Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes see http://resumespecialties.com/index.html Email patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Midge, again
Matt, that is OUTSTANDING! It's crazy to me how there are so many dirt drop and alt bars out there, with new ones coming out seemingly all the time, and yet how none of them seem to be able to get it just right. I know this is highly subjective and personal but, with the exception of width which might depend on an individual rider's build, it doesn't seem like you should have to compromise one obviously good feature to accommodate another. Yet the options are always either: too narrow on top to give you an upper hand position (old WTB and 3TTT, etc.), too deep of a drop to the lower sections for hard-core off-road riding by people without racer physique (Nitto, etc.), way more flare and width than you actually need at the ends for ergonomics and wrist clearance sake (Woodchipper, etc.), too angled at the bend to make the hoods comfortable (Origin 8 Gary, etc.), too short in the extensions to give you a full hand grip (Midge, etc), available only for oversize stem clamps (Ragely Luxy, Soma Junebug, etc), unable to accommodate bar-end shifters (new WTB Mountain Road, etc.), etc., etc. (Not to mention. If you're only going to offer a component in one color, it should be polished SILVER, not black, duh.) I think YOU may have almost created the perfect bar though. I'd love to hear your impressions and some more photos, after you put some time on them. On the other hand, I completely agree that the 48cm Noodles actually are almost perfect as they are. The only reason I even keep trying to find something else is because having different bars helps me justify owning multiple, otherwise redundant bikes - a'la Sheldon philosophy. (Patrick: Sorry if I've sort of hijacked the original intention of the thread here, with my rant) On Mar 7, 3:11 am, Matt H neovernacu...@gmail.com wrote: A recent Midge Mod. Here the pictures, before and after bar tape. The one with colourful bar tape is of a set of unadulterated bars and is not mine. It's just pulled off the internet for comparison. I haven't ridden them outside my living room yet, but first impressions are promising! Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Midge, again
Not at all, not at all -- I'm all for organic growth in thread life. I agree with your rant entirely and I too want to hear more from Matt. On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:07 AM, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote: (Patrick: Sorry if I've sort of hijacked the original intention of the thread here, with my rant) On Mar 7, 3:11 am, Matt H neovernacu...@gmail.com wrote: A recent Midge Mod. Here the pictures, before and after bar tape. The one with colourful bar tape is of a set of unadulterated bars and is not mine. It's just pulled off the internet for comparison. I haven't ridden them outside my living room yet, but first impressions are promising! Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- __ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. __ Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes see http://resumespecialties.com/index.html Email patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Midge, again
That is a great mod. Without bar-end shifters, Midges are too short for my best comfort. With bar-end shifters in, they're fine. If I ran the zoo, I would have designed them with an extra inch or so on each side, with engraved markings for the owners to chop them shorter. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, March 7, 2013 2:11:38 AM UTC-8, Matt wrote: A recent Midge Mod. I think similarly to you, I liked the Midge's hoods, but wasn't so keen on their drop position. The grips were too short and my wrists were really uncomfortable with their outward flare. I've been riding 46cm and 48cm Noodles, which I like a lot, esp. the 48's, and shelved the Midges. Long story short, a millwright at work very kindly helped me modify 'em. He spun off some aluminum plugs (I think 5cm long) to extend the grip section and suggested I try wrapping a loop of rope around the bar ends and spinning a stick/screwdriver in between them to pull in the flare. Here the pictures, before and after bar tape. The one with colourful bar tape is of a set of unadulterated bars and is not mine. It's just pulled off the internet for comparison. I haven't ridden them outside my living room yet, but first impressions are promising! Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Midge, again
My mileage varies. I think the old WTB bars are perfect, and the Midges are quite good. I like the flare - that's the best feature of these bars. The width on the tops is fine for me, but I don't ride on the tops. I don't like Noodles, so I think that might be a watershed for people. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, March 7, 2013 8:07:34 AM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote: Matt, that is OUTSTANDING! It's crazy to me how there are so many dirt drop and alt bars out there, with new ones coming out seemingly all the time, and yet how none of them seem to be able to get it just right. I know this is highly subjective and personal but, with the exception of width which might depend on an individual rider's build, it doesn't seem like you should have to compromise one obviously good feature to accommodate another. Yet the options are always either: too narrow on top to give you an upper hand position (old WTB and 3TTT, etc.), too deep of a drop to the lower sections for hard-core off-road riding by people without racer physique (Nitto, etc.), way more flare and width than you actually need at the ends for ergonomics and wrist clearance sake (Woodchipper, etc.), too angled at the bend to make the hoods comfortable (Origin 8 Gary, etc.), too short in the extensions to give you a full hand grip (Midge, etc), available only for oversize stem clamps (Ragely Luxy, Soma Junebug, etc), unable to accommodate bar-end shifters (new WTB Mountain Road, etc.), etc., etc. (Not to mention. If you're only going to offer a component in one color, it should be polished SILVER, not black, duh.) I think YOU may have almost created the perfect bar though. I'd love to hear your impressions and some more photos, after you put some time on them. On the other hand, I completely agree that the 48cm Noodles actually are almost perfect as they are. The only reason I even keep trying to find something else is because having different bars helps me justify owning multiple, otherwise redundant bikes - a'la Sheldon philosophy. (Patrick: Sorry if I've sort of hijacked the original intention of the thread here, with my rant) On Mar 7, 3:11 am, Matt H neovernacu...@gmail.com wrote: A recent Midge Mod. Here the pictures, before and after bar tape. The one with colourful bar tape is of a set of unadulterated bars and is not mine. It's just pulled off the internet for comparison. I haven't ridden them outside my living room yet, but first impressions are promising! Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Midge, again
Kellie: Very nice bike. How fat a tire will the Vaya take? __ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. __ Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes see http://resumespecialties.com/index.html Email patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't tell you, I really like these bars. Hope the pix helped. On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:08:02 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I like that Vaya a lot! On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.s...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:54:42 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: A woman on this list declared her intention a month or so ago to install a Midge. I'd be interested in hearing her opinion of it, and learning how she set it up. Me, I am still of mixed minds. (Howzat for a weird metaphor.) On the one hand, it is, both overall one of the better compromises for on- and off-road; the hoods are better than those of the 46 cm Noodles (which were too damn' wide) and the hooks, tho' even wider, are as comfortable because so much nearer and shallower. Compared to 42 cm Noodles, the Midge is as comfortable on the hoods (this is where, for me, the Midge shines) but considerably less so in the hooks -- again, width and, also, because you simply can't set up the hooks to be parallel to the ground: they are far too shallow and short. OTOH, the 42 Noodles were useless on anything except firm surfaces, while the Midge is wide enough even at the hoods to offer considerable leverage and, in the hooks, gives all the control you need. My problems with the Midge are (1) the great width in the hooks and (2) how the slanted hooks make my very sensitive left palm suffer. This last may be helped with even more added padding. As to the first, I am wondering if I should lower the bar (currently ~2 cm above saddle) a cm or two and use the hooks, not the hoods, as the cruising position. But this means that, off road, the hooks will be hard to use on steep drop-offs where you need maximum grip and braking. Perhaps the solution is to have a separate off-road bike that I can set up without any compromise for road riding ... -- __ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. __ Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes see http://resumespecialties.com/index.html Email patric...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Midge, again
I like that Vaya a lot! On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:54:42 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: A woman on this list declared her intention a month or so ago to install a Midge. I'd be interested in hearing her opinion of it, and learning how she set it up. Me, I am still of mixed minds. (Howzat for a weird metaphor.) On the one hand, it is, both overall one of the better compromises for on- and off-road; the hoods are better than those of the 46 cm Noodles (which were too damn' wide) and the hooks, tho' even wider, are as comfortable because so much nearer and shallower. Compared to 42 cm Noodles, the Midge is as comfortable on the hoods (this is where, for me, the Midge shines) but considerably less so in the hooks -- again, width and, also, because you simply can't set up the hooks to be parallel to the ground: they are far too shallow and short. OTOH, the 42 Noodles were useless on anything except firm surfaces, while the Midge is wide enough even at the hoods to offer considerable leverage and, in the hooks, gives all the control you need. My problems with the Midge are (1) the great width in the hooks and (2) how the slanted hooks make my very sensitive left palm suffer. This last may be helped with even more added padding. As to the first, I am wondering if I should lower the bar (currently ~2 cm above saddle) a cm or two and use the hooks, not the hoods, as the cruising position. But this means that, off road, the hooks will be hard to use on steep drop-offs where you need maximum grip and braking. Perhaps the solution is to have a separate off-road bike that I can set up without any compromise for road riding ... -- __**__**__ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. __**__**__ Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes see http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html Email patric...@**resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Midge, again
I didn't tell you, I really like these bars. Hope the pix helped. On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:08:02 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I like that Vaya a lot! On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.s...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:54:42 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: A woman on this list declared her intention a month or so ago to install a Midge. I'd be interested in hearing her opinion of it, and learning how she set it up. Me, I am still of mixed minds. (Howzat for a weird metaphor.) On the one hand, it is, both overall one of the better compromises for on- and off-road; the hoods are better than those of the 46 cm Noodles (which were too damn' wide) and the hooks, tho' even wider, are as comfortable because so much nearer and shallower. Compared to 42 cm Noodles, the Midge is as comfortable on the hoods (this is where, for me, the Midge shines) but considerably less so in the hooks -- again, width and, also, because you simply can't set up the hooks to be parallel to the ground: they are far too shallow and short. OTOH, the 42 Noodles were useless on anything except firm surfaces, while the Midge is wide enough even at the hoods to offer considerable leverage and, in the hooks, gives all the control you need. My problems with the Midge are (1) the great width in the hooks and (2) how the slanted hooks make my very sensitive left palm suffer. This last may be helped with even more added padding. As to the first, I am wondering if I should lower the bar (currently ~2 cm above saddle) a cm or two and use the hooks, not the hoods, as the cruising position. But this means that, off road, the hooks will be hard to use on steep drop-offs where you need maximum grip and braking. Perhaps the solution is to have a separate off-road bike that I can set up without any compromise for road riding ... -- __**__**__ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. __**__**__ Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes see http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html Email patric...@**resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Midge, again
The Vaya was on my list of potential bikes but thankfully I went with the Homer.I really like the Vaya though. The Midge looks like a great bar. Maybe I'll try it at some point. Hugh Sunland, CA On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:16:12 PM UTC-8, Kellie Stapleton wrote: I didn't tell you, I really like these bars. Hope the pix helped. On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:08:02 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I like that Vaya a lot! On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.s...@gmail.comwrote: On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:54:42 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: A woman on this list declared her intention a month or so ago to install a Midge. I'd be interested in hearing her opinion of it, and learning how she set it up. Me, I am still of mixed minds. (Howzat for a weird metaphor.) On the one hand, it is, both overall one of the better compromises for on- and off-road; the hoods are better than those of the 46 cm Noodles (which were too damn' wide) and the hooks, tho' even wider, are as comfortable because so much nearer and shallower. Compared to 42 cm Noodles, the Midge is as comfortable on the hoods (this is where, for me, the Midge shines) but considerably less so in the hooks -- again, width and, also, because you simply can't set up the hooks to be parallel to the ground: they are far too shallow and short. OTOH, the 42 Noodles were useless on anything except firm surfaces, while the Midge is wide enough even at the hoods to offer considerable leverage and, in the hooks, gives all the control you need. My problems with the Midge are (1) the great width in the hooks and (2) how the slanted hooks make my very sensitive left palm suffer. This last may be helped with even more added padding. As to the first, I am wondering if I should lower the bar (currently ~2 cm above saddle) a cm or two and use the hooks, not the hoods, as the cruising position. But this means that, off road, the hooks will be hard to use on steep drop-offs where you need maximum grip and braking. Perhaps the solution is to have a separate off-road bike that I can set up without any compromise for road riding ... -- __**__**__ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. __**__**__ Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes see http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html Email patric...@**resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Midge, again
For many years now I have lust in my heart for the NLA Lynskey Ti Vaya. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:55 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: The Vaya was on my list of potential bikes but thankfully I went with the Homer.I really like the Vaya though. The Midge looks like a great bar. Maybe I'll try it at some point. Hugh Sunland, CA On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:16:12 PM UTC-8, Kellie Stapleton wrote: I didn't tell you, I really like these bars. Hope the pix helped. On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:08:02 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I like that Vaya a lot! On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.s...@gmail.comwrote: On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:54:42 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: A woman on this list declared her intention a month or so ago to install a Midge. I'd be interested in hearing her opinion of it, and learning how she set it up. Me, I am still of mixed minds. (Howzat for a weird metaphor.) On the one hand, it is, both overall one of the better compromises for on- and off-road; the hoods are better than those of the 46 cm Noodles (which were too damn' wide) and the hooks, tho' even wider, are as comfortable because so much nearer and shallower. Compared to 42 cm Noodles, the Midge is as comfortable on the hoods (this is where, for me, the Midge shines) but considerably less so in the hooks -- again, width and, also, because you simply can't set up the hooks to be parallel to the ground: they are far too shallow and short. OTOH, the 42 Noodles were useless on anything except firm surfaces, while the Midge is wide enough even at the hoods to offer considerable leverage and, in the hooks, gives all the control you need. My problems with the Midge are (1) the great width in the hooks and (2) how the slanted hooks make my very sensitive left palm suffer. This last may be helped with even more added padding. As to the first, I am wondering if I should lower the bar (currently ~2 cm above saddle) a cm or two and use the hooks, not the hoods, as the cruising position. But this means that, off road, the hooks will be hard to use on steep drop-offs where you need maximum grip and braking. Perhaps the solution is to have a separate off-road bike that I can set up without any compromise for road riding ... -- ______ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. ______ Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes see http://resumespecialties.com/**i** ndex.html http://resumespecialties.com/index.html Email patric...@**resumespecialties.**com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Midge, again
I've been thinking about the midge for an off-road bar lately too. In some ways it seems almost perfect, but my problem is that the short lower drop extensions seem way too short to fit my hands securely. So I found a product called Terminators from Control Tech ( http://www.controltechbikes.com/english/examples/a_endplugs.php ) that might fix THAT problem by adding length, but at the expense of being able to use bar end shifters. So then you'd have to use brifters or, my favorite, Take-Offs by Kelly ( http://kellybike.com/2nd_xtra_takeoff.html ) with silver shifters. I'm just not sure the later option would work due to the angled brake lever mounting position. I'd sure love it if you would try this combination out and report back, though! ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
