Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-10 Thread Smitty-A-Go-Go
We looked long and hard for a reasonable 16-inch wheeled bike when my 
daughter out grew her 12-inch Specialized Hotrock. We finally found a 
Schwinn Gremlin on Craigslist for $40 and snatched it up. 

Funny you mention wheel size, David. M 5-year old daughter tried to go up a 
driveway from the street at too shallow an angle and her front wheel was 
deflected by the bump. She went down pretty hard. I was tough 'cause there 
wasn't much I could do other than comfort her and explain how to avoid it 
happening again. She really wants a bigger bike but she can barely stand 
over her 16-inch wheeled Schwinn Gremlin.

Here are a few pics of the kids on their rides... 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/113148323994353762329/albums/5673253657816624801


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Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-10 Thread cyclotourist
Start on the 20 search, it'll take awhile, too!   The wheel size really
made a big difference.  Most noticeable in rolling off curbs (probably also
why kid bikes are so over-built!).  She used to stop and straddle-step walk
them over, now rides right off them.  I noticed the big difference for her
going from 16 to 20 was the extra mass of the front end.  My daughter did
not like having to move it around at low/no speed and that kinda' mentally
freaked her out.  Once she got over that... watch out!

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Smitty-A-Go-Go 54ca...@gmail.com wrote:

 We looked long and hard for a reasonable 16-inch wheeled bike when my
 daughter out grew her 12-inch Specialized Hotrock. We finally found a
 Schwinn Gremlin on Craigslist for $40 and snatched it up.

 Funny you mention wheel size, David. M 5-year old daughter tried to go up
 a driveway from the street at too shallow an angle and her front wheel was
 deflected by the bump. She went down pretty hard. I was tough 'cause there
 wasn't much I could do other than comfort her and explain how to avoid it
 happening again. She really wants a bigger bike but she can barely stand
 over her 16-inch wheeled Schwinn Gremlin.

 Here are a few pics of the kids on their rides...
 https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/113148323994353762329/albums/5673253657816624801


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[RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-10 Thread Jennings
Here is the one I built up for my son a few years ago.  I found the
frame on Ebay. Of course it is lugged.   I put 20x1/1/8 wheels and
tires on it.  The rear wheel is built up with a Shimano Sante' 7 speed
hub and there is a Shimano 600 rear derailler.  It required standard
reach brakes.  I think the handlebars are 38cm wide.  I had to put
interrupter levers on it so he could reach.  7-speed bar end
shifters.  The bike was completely Rivendell inspired.  At age 8 I
paced him doing 18 mph.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22765148@N02/sets/72157627975934435/


On Nov 10, 1:31 pm, David Yu Greenblatt
david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hope Riv moves this from the back burner to the middle burner if not the
 front burner. I am ready to pre-pay for one now.

 David G
 Madison WI



 On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:19 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/12528275911/mini-bike-for-7-to-9-a-bac...

  This is just s fantastic.  I totally obsess on kid bikes and have
  sequential bikes from 12 to 24 for pretty much the whole neighborhood.
  Coming up on 26 (and looking hard for a 90's 13 Hoo Koo E Koo or Trek 950
  if someone has one stashed somewhere...) now, then on to 650b and 700c/29er
  territory!

  I looked long and hard to find a GREAT 20 KHS Montana.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4302651574/ I moved my kids on
  to hand brakes and gears as soon as I could (this bike is ridden by my 5
  y.o.).  But oh how I would have loved to have a semi-lugged Rivendell
  for them!

  Hey Grant, consider a 24 version as well, that's the perfect kid size
  (here's my take on the best option out there:
 http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/found-perfect-kid-bike.html).
  You can get kids all different sizes on that, and the 24 tires roll so
  much better than 20 tires do.

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  David
  Redlands, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-10 Thread Joe Bunik
That is cool, J.!

With the busy days of a 5 and a 3, we are still sorta getting back
up-to-speed with the family biking... lately, it's been Trail-A-Bike
commuting, or- more fun- the Jeff Lyons trailer cycle:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/6099977077/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/6179111759/

... so, I will most certainly entertain what Riv is working on now!
But, a pet project waiting in the wings is this little Urago frame
which I rescued from the bottom of a pile at a bike coop in PGH, PA.:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=URAGO+BAMBINO
I just need to find a good/cheap set of 28h hubs to go with some nice
24 rims...

=- Joe Bunik
ought take my daughter down to RBWHQ to see if she can get in on the
test-pilot-program
Walnut Creek, CA

On 11/10/11, Jennings jkguinn...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Here is the one I built up for my son a few years ago.  I found the
 frame on Ebay. Of course it is lugged.   I put 20x1/1/8 wheels and
 tires on it.  The rear wheel is built up with a Shimano Sante' 7 speed
 hub and there is a Shimano 600 rear derailler.  It required standard
 reach brakes.  I think the handlebars are 38cm wide.  I had to put
 interrupter levers on it so he could reach.  7-speed bar end
 shifters.  The bike was completely Rivendell inspired.  At age 8 I
 paced him doing 18 mph.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/22765148@N02/sets/72157627975934435/


 On Nov 10, 1:31 pm, David Yu Greenblatt
 david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hope Riv moves this from the back burner to the middle burner if not the
 front burner. I am ready to pre-pay for one now.

 David G
 Madison WI



 On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:19 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/12528275911/mini-bike-for-7-to-9-a-bac...

  This is just s fantastic.  I totally obsess on kid bikes and have
  sequential bikes from 12 to 24 for pretty much the whole neighborhood.
  Coming up on 26 (and looking hard for a 90's 13 Hoo Koo E Koo or Trek
  950
  if someone has one stashed somewhere...) now, then on to 650b and
  700c/29er
  territory!

  I looked long and hard to find a GREAT 20 KHS Montana.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4302651574/ I moved my kids on
  to hand brakes and gears as soon as I could (this bike is ridden by my 5
  y.o.).  But oh how I would have loved to have a semi-lugged
  Rivendell
  for them!

  Hey Grant, consider a 24 version as well, that's the perfect kid size
  (here's my take on the best option out there:
 http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/found-perfect-kid-bike.html).
  You can get kids all different sizes on that, and the 24 tires roll
  so
  much better than 20 tires do.

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  David
  Redlands, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-10 Thread cyclotourist
That is one cool bike!

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Jennings jkguinn...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Here is the one I built up for my son a few years ago.  I found the
 frame on Ebay. Of course it is lugged.   I put 20x1/1/8 wheels and
 tires on it.  The rear wheel is built up with a Shimano Sante' 7 speed
 hub and there is a Shimano 600 rear derailler.  It required standard
 reach brakes.  I think the handlebars are 38cm wide.  I had to put
 interrupter levers on it so he could reach.  7-speed bar end
 shifters.  The bike was completely Rivendell inspired.  At age 8 I
 paced him doing 18 mph.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/22765148@N02/sets/72157627975934435/


 On Nov 10, 1:31 pm, David Yu Greenblatt
 david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:
  I hope Riv moves this from the back burner to the middle burner if not
 the
  front burner. I am ready to pre-pay for one now.
 
  David G
  Madison WI
 
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:19 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/12528275911/mini-bike-for-7-to-9-a-bac.
 ..
 
   This is just s fantastic.  I totally obsess on kid bikes and have
   sequential bikes from 12 to 24 for pretty much the whole
 neighborhood.
   Coming up on 26 (and looking hard for a 90's 13 Hoo Koo E Koo or
 Trek 950
   if someone has one stashed somewhere...) now, then on to 650b and
 700c/29er
   territory!
 
   I looked long and hard to find a GREAT 20 KHS Montana.
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4302651574/ I moved my kids
 on
   to hand brakes and gears as soon as I could (this bike is ridden by my
 5
   y.o.).  But oh how I would have loved to have a semi-lugged
 Rivendell
   for them!
 
   Hey Grant, consider a 24 version as well, that's the perfect kid size
   (here's my take on the best option out there:
  http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/found-perfect-kid-bike.html).
   You can get kids all different sizes on that, and the 24 tires roll
 so
   much better than 20 tires do.
 
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   David
   Redlands, CA
 
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[RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-09 Thread newenglandbike
Lugged BMX!:)

Seriously this bike looks awesome. 

Regarding the market for kids bikes, many boys (and some precocious/daring 
young girls) do actually want BMX bikes*, which are 
usuallyhttp://www.wethepeoplebmx.de/bikes/trust 
CrMo http://www.sundaybikes.com/catalog/completes/, except for the 
expensive racing ones.They are simple and do not capture the rivendell 
aesthetic-  no gears, no racks, etc-   but tons of fun and an excellent 
introduction to riding without gadgets (not that racks/gears are gadgets).

-Matt


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[RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-09 Thread Leslie
Awesomeness!

My first thought was:  it's a year late!  My younger, 9-yr-old daughter was 
outgrowing her previous bike, and I bought her a ladies' Trek Skye, for her 
to grow with. 

But:   I still want one of these.   Thing is, my older daughter is about to 
have a daughter:   My younger one might ride it for a bit, too, maybe not, 
but then when my granddaughter is ready, there it'd be...   



I hadn't thought about the urban-bike slant for adults, but, watching Danny 
MacAskill videos again, a Rivish bike of sorts would be very cool, 
too   

H

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[RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-09 Thread Smitty-A-Go-Go
My wife has a sparkly green Betty Foy. My 5-year-old daughter often laments 
that she too would like a sparkly green pretty bike with hand brakes. 
This could be that bike. The capacity to attach a real rack/basket would be 
great. She (daughter) has a little flowery plastic basket zip tied to the 
h-bars, but it's not nearly big enough to carry the ensemble of dolls and 
doll accessories that she consistently wants to bring to the park. $250 for 
a whole bike sounds like a deal... even if racks, fenders, and front brake 
are aftermarket add-ons. One more on the Kiddie Riv waiting list!

  

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Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
$250 is a steal. (Steel?) Too bad Catie is now almost 5' tall (at 10
years, five months and one day) and riding a much more expensive 24 wheel
Electra Townie 3i (pink!) (heck, her 20 wheel Little Betty cost me $250
five years ago).

I dream of her going to middle and high school at nearby Bosque School and
we two riding bikes to and from. (She put her foot down about a tandem --
ie, using that plaintive, indignant whine: DA-aaa-AD!)

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Smitty-A-Go-Go 54ca...@gmail.com wrote:

 My wife has a sparkly green Betty Foy. My 5-year-old daughter often
 laments that she too would like a sparkly green pretty bike with hand
 brakes. This could be that bike. The capacity to attach a real rack/basket
 would be great. She (daughter) has a little flowery plastic basket zip tied
 to the h-bars, but it's not nearly big enough to carry the ensemble of
 dolls and doll accessories that she consistently wants to bring to the
 park. $250 for a whole bike sounds like a deal... even if racks, fenders,
 and front brake are aftermarket add-ons. One more on the Kiddie Riv waiting
 list!



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Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-09 Thread Allan in Portland
Agreed on the $250 is a steal. The free Trek that I put tubes, tires, 
fenders, and a bell on cost me close to $100. And that was with the tires 
on close-out for about $20 each. You can imagine why I ended up hesitating 
over the mustache bars. Also, a Wald basket up front would be very a nice 
and very useful touch.

The thing is, most people don't want to spend money on a decent kid's bike. 
It's understandable as most kids don't ride them very much. But in the TCO 
(total cost of ownership), a good bike that can last through 2-3 of one's 
own children before being sold used for 50-70% of original purchase price 
is pretty cheap on an amortized basis. Not many people look at their budget 
that way, though.

-Allan

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[RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-09 Thread Philip Williamson
The cost-per-use being lower for more expensive kid's bikes is
certainly true in my case. I spent $120 on Max's first bike, a 16
Gary Fisher Jet Stream or something. He rode it a LOT for a couple
years. It actually had moto-style fenders...
His BMX race bike cost $300+, weighs 15 lbs, and has lasted for years
of transportational riding. I could've gotten a used one for $150, but
I'd just tried to set him up with a thrift store BMX bike that cost
$10, plus $40 for a new rear wheel and he hated it. Cheap bike = money
thrown from a moving car; expensive bike = years of use, and I could
probably sell it tomorrow for $150.

 Philip

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www.biketinker.com

On Nov 9, 4:06 pm, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote:
 Agreed on the $250 is a steal. The free Trek that I put tubes, tires,
 fenders, and a bell on cost me close to $100. And that was with the tires
 on close-out for about $20 each. You can imagine why I ended up hesitating
 over the mustache bars. Also, a Wald basket up front would be very a nice
 and very useful touch.

 The thing is, most people don't want to spend money on a decent kid's bike.
 It's understandable as most kids don't ride them very much. But in the TCO
 (total cost of ownership), a good bike that can last through 2-3 of one's
 own children before being sold used for 50-70% of original purchase price
 is pretty cheap on an amortized basis. Not many people look at their budget
 that way, though.

 -Allan

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Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-09 Thread cyclotourist
Finding a nice kid bike has been an obsession of mine.  They're out
there, but a bit hard to find.  My kids use them mostly for riding around
the block, but put some decent miles on them going to grandma's, the
library, parks, etc.   Gears came into play quite early.  They don't quite
get them, but follow directions well when I holler:  Two left, four right.

I mentioned originally how much I like the 24 tire size.  I think it's
under-utilized!  It rolls over curbs and bumps so much better than a
20 tire, but doesn't require a tall fork/handlebar height like 26 bikes
do.  Even fairly small kids can ride them, limited more by saddle height
and standover than anything.

Right now, Redline makes the Conquest
http://www.redlinebicycles.com/bikes/commute/2012-conquest-24in the 24
size (actually an off-size 24, but that's another story).  If you're
looking for a good all-round bike for your kid, check them out.  Drop bars,
fat tires!  I found a good one on CL, and am not giving it up for a while!

Oh, and all this talk about kid bikes has forced me to go and buy a
new onehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/6331069394/in/photostream!
My son is at the point where he will actually benefit from a front sus
fork, not to mention carrying around the extra weight from his previous
bike.  It weighed 30lbs, which is about 45% of his weight.  That would be
like my riding a 85lbs bike on the trails!



On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Philip Williamson 
philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

 The cost-per-use being lower for more expensive kid's bikes is
 certainly true in my case. I spent $120 on Max's first bike, a 16
 Gary Fisher Jet Stream or something. He rode it a LOT for a couple
 years. It actually had moto-style fenders...
 His BMX race bike cost $300+, weighs 15 lbs, and has lasted for years
 of transportational riding. I could've gotten a used one for $150, but
 I'd just tried to set him up with a thrift store BMX bike that cost
 $10, plus $40 for a new rear wheel and he hated it. Cheap bike = money
 thrown from a moving car; expensive bike = years of use, and I could
 probably sell it tomorrow for $150.

  Philip

 Philip Williamson
 www.biketinker.com

 On Nov 9, 4:06 pm, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote:
  Agreed on the $250 is a steal. The free Trek that I put tubes, tires,
  fenders, and a bell on cost me close to $100. And that was with the tires
  on close-out for about $20 each. You can imagine why I ended up
 hesitating
  over the mustache bars. Also, a Wald basket up front would be very a nice
  and very useful touch.
 
  The thing is, most people don't want to spend money on a decent kid's
 bike.
  It's understandable as most kids don't ride them very much. But in the
 TCO
  (total cost of ownership), a good bike that can last through 2-3 of one's
  own children before being sold used for 50-70% of original purchase price
  is pretty cheap on an amortized basis. Not many people look at their
 budget
  that way, though.
 
  -Allan

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[RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-08 Thread Joe Bernard
Ya know what would be *really* swell? A semi-lugged straight-guage 20-inch 
wheel urban bike at a lower price point from Rivendell. 
 
Joe Bernard
Fairfield, CA.

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[RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-08 Thread Marty
or this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379107@N03/4349945352/in/pool-1240367@N24

double eyelets up front for that kross kountyr kiddy ride!

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Re: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-08 Thread Sean Whelan
Wow. that bike is brilliant!

Sean

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Subject: [RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 8, 2011, 10:28 PM

or this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379107@N03/4349945352/in/pool-1240367@N24

double eyelets up front for that kross kountyr kiddy ride!



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[RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-08 Thread dougP
Now we know where Yehuda Moon went...to Walnut Creek to pursue the
Grow Bike project!  A Grant-Yehuda collaboration should be
brilliant.

Seriously, that is so nicely done.  So much of what's aimed at kids is
such junk.  +1 for rack eyelets; even kids understand the usefulness
of a rack, if only to make their bike a tandem.

dougP

On Nov 8, 6:19 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/12528275911/mini-bike-for-7-to-9-a-bac...

 This is just s fantastic.  I totally obsess on kid bikes and have
 sequential bikes from 12 to 24 for pretty much the whole neighborhood.
 Coming up on 26 (and looking hard for a 90's 13 Hoo Koo E Koo or Trek 950
 if someone has one stashed somewhere...) now, then on to 650b and 700c/29er
 territory!

 I looked long and hard to find a GREAT 20 KHS 
 Montana.http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4302651574/ I moved my kids 
 on
 to hand brakes and gears as soon as I could (this bike is ridden by my 5
 y.o.).  But oh how I would have loved to have a semi-lugged Rivendell
 for them!

 Hey Grant, consider a 24 version as well, that's the perfect kid size
 (here's my take on the best option out 
 there:http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/found-perfect-kid-bike.html).  
 You
 can get kids all different sizes on that, and the 24 tires roll so
 much better than 20 tires do.

 --
 Cheers,
 David
 Redlands, CA

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[RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-08 Thread Allan in Portland
Yeah, dibs on one of the samples. :-)

Though, from my experience, what boys really want are knobbies, gears, and 
handbrakes in that order.

When he started 1st grade our neighbor gave my son a hand-me down Trek 20 
coaster brake bike. I replaced the imitation moto-cross tires and fenders 
with Schwalbe Marathons and full-coverage Wald chrome and gave it a nice 
brass bell. (The cheap jingle-bell didn't last as my wife got sick of 
listening to it everyday, twice a day, for ~2 miles each way.) I was going 
to put some mustache bars on it to complete the look, but never got around 
to it. I really should.

Of course, he has no appreciation for it and vastly prefers riding the 30+ 
lb full-suspension Walmart special yet another neighbor gave him. Of course 
I let him choose which he rides. That is, until the rain comes then it's 
sorry, gotta ride the 'fender' bike.

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[RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-08 Thread Philip Williamson
I love it. Scale it up for 29er big apples, and sell one to me.

I like the 20 mini/junior bmx race wheels on my son's Redline. He
rode that bike for 4 or 5 years, from barely straddling it at 5, to
dude, you need a new bike. Which was met with I hate riding bikes
anyway. Peaked early, I guess.

I think the bike could be a good rider for longer than two years,
especially if the seat tube was excessively slack, or changed
direction mid-tube like Jeff Jones' bikes.

 Philip

Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

On Nov 8, 6:19 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/12528275911/mini-bike-for-7-to-9-a-bac...

 This is just s fantastic.  I totally obsess on kid bikes and have
 sequential bikes from 12 to 24 for pretty much the whole neighborhood.
 Coming up on 26 (and looking hard for a 90's 13 Hoo Koo E Koo or Trek 950
 if someone has one stashed somewhere...) now, then on to 650b and 700c/29er
 territory!

 I looked long and hard to find a GREAT 20 KHS 
 Montana.http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4302651574/ I moved my kids 
 on
 to hand brakes and gears as soon as I could (this bike is ridden by my 5
 y.o.).  But oh how I would have loved to have a semi-lugged Rivendell
 for them!

 Hey Grant, consider a 24 version as well, that's the perfect kid size
 (here's my take on the best option out 
 there:http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/found-perfect-kid-bike.html).  
 You
 can get kids all different sizes on that, and the 24 tires roll so
 much better than 20 tires do.

 --
 Cheers,
 David
 Redlands, CA

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[RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-08 Thread Philip Williamson
Agreed on the priorities of the Boy Child. My original idea for my
son's Redline was to pimp it out with recumbent fenders and moustache
bars, but that was rejected out of hand. He didn't want a miniaturized
version of Dad's bike, for some reason.

 Philip

Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

On Nov 8, 8:29 pm, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote:
 Yeah, dibs on one of the samples. :-)

 Though, from my experience, what boys really want are knobbies, gears, and
 handbrakes in that order.

 When he started 1st grade our neighbor gave my son a hand-me down Trek 20
 coaster brake bike. I replaced the imitation moto-cross tires and fenders
 with Schwalbe Marathons and full-coverage Wald chrome and gave it a nice
 brass bell. (The cheap jingle-bell didn't last as my wife got sick of
 listening to it everyday, twice a day, for ~2 miles each way.) I was going
 to put some mustache bars on it to complete the look, but never got around
 to it. I really should.

 Of course, he has no appreciation for it and vastly prefers riding the 30+
 lb full-suspension Walmart special yet another neighbor gave him. Of course
 I let him choose which he rides. That is, until the rain comes then it's
 sorry, gotta ride the 'fender' bike.

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[RBW] Re: OMG, a Kiddie Rivvy!

2011-11-08 Thread danmc
That looks great. I was just starting to plan a first bike for my 2
month old. Hope to see it in production but I (we) would be happy with
a proto.



On Nov 8, 8:29 pm, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote:
 Yeah, dibs on one of the samples. :-)

 Though, from my experience, what boys really want are knobbies, gears, and
 handbrakes in that order.

 When he started 1st grade our neighbor gave my son a hand-me down Trek 20
 coaster brake bike. I replaced the imitation moto-cross tires and fenders
 with Schwalbe Marathons and full-coverage Wald chrome and gave it a nice
 brass bell. (The cheap jingle-bell didn't last as my wife got sick of
 listening to it everyday, twice a day, for ~2 miles each way.) I was going
 to put some mustache bars on it to complete the look, but never got around
 to it. I really should.

 Of course, he has no appreciation for it and vastly prefers riding the 30+
 lb full-suspension Walmart special yet another neighbor gave him. Of course
 I let him choose which he rides. That is, until the rain comes then it's
 sorry, gotta ride the 'fender' bike.

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