[RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-11-06 Thread Mr. Ray
Wheel building is an art and finding a competent wheel builder is just as important as selecting parts. Rims come in 2 flavors; welded and pinned. The former is stronger. 32 vs 36 spokes is a difference of grams and shouldn't be an issue unless you are racing. Using brass nipples vs alloy

[RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-10-30 Thread Marc Irwin
I'm 210 on a good day (if I lie). I had Velocity build wheels for each of my Riv's and use 32 spokes on my Hillborne with 35mm tires while my Hunq has 36 front and 40 rear with 45mm because it's used for loaded touring. Marc On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 8:39:44 AM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-10-27 Thread Ben Mihovk
Yeah, Bill's comments got me thinking yesterday, too. I consciously noted how I was riding home from work. I pushed myself to take weight off the saddle throughout the ride...I'm generally good about putting weight on my feet over bumpy spots, but I could probably do a better job. The bike in

Re: [RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-10-27 Thread Philip Williamson
My first thought was, “32h is fine, don’t worry about it,” but Bill reminds me that not everyone rides the same, and you should consider your own style. Philip Sonoma County, Calif. On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 12:27:44 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: > Adding onto Eric's correct comments.

Re: [RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-10-26 Thread Ben Mihovk
Thanks for all your feedback, folks! It turns out that the wheels in question on the bike are, in fact, 36h after all! But, good to know that I could probably get away with 32h if needed. Thanks again! Ben On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 10:06 AM iamkeith wrote: > Eric and Bill said it all, but I'll

Re: [RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-10-26 Thread iamkeith
Eric and Bill said it all, but I'll add one more thing: 6'-3" and 210 lbs isn't really that big, and is certainly not out of shape. Someone of your fitness level should have zero problem supporting some weight on the bottom bracket and effecting fore/aft weight shifts and lofting wheels when

Re: [RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-10-26 Thread Robert Dowtin
Thought I’d chime in as well. Most of my wheel sets have been built by me the last few years. Always 32h I’m 6,1 and spent most of the last 5 years between 215 and 245. I have only broken one spoke in those 5 years and it was one of those fat aluminum Industry 9 spokes on a mountain bike, not

Re: [RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-10-25 Thread Ron Frazelle
Chiming in. As a Clydesdale that "rides light" and chooses to buy quality wheels when I don't have them built for me, I have never had in issue with 32 spokes, ever...even loaded with bike packing gear. In agreement with Eric and Bill. On Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 12:27 PM Bill Lindsay wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-10-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
Adding onto Eric's correct comments. I'd say the rider technique has a lot to do with the reliability of wheels also. Some riders just seem to know how to ride light. Others simply don't. There are light weight riders who destroy wheels because they don't know how to ride, or they do know

Re: [RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-10-25 Thread Karl Wilcox
Improved spokes and rims have made 36 holes or higher wheels obsolete even for heavier riders (max 200+ pounds or so). At 210 and 2 meters tall, I even use 32 wheels for touring with absolutely no problems. I have been building my own wheels for 45 years, and I can see no reason to revert back

[RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-10-25 Thread Garth
Ben, if you call Velocity in Michigan and speak to a real live person, likely the same guy I spoke to. You'll find you can get 36 holes or mix and match f/r. You can also request double butted spokes for $30/pr extra. On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 2:17:08 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote: >

[RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-10-25 Thread Ben Mihovk
Thanks to everyone for the replies. To give more context, the wheels in question are the standard Velocity built wheel set (Atlas rims, velocity hubs) that used to be a stock wheel option. I don't know if that makes any kind of difference. They're old (about 8 years) and lightly used...and

Re: [RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-10-25 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
In my experience, the quality of the rim and spokes and the skill of the wheelbuilder matter much more than the spoke count. A well-made 32-spoke wheel will outlive a cheap 36-spoke wheel any day. I’ve ended up with several bikes with 36-spoke wheels, but more by chance than design. I ride on

[RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-10-25 Thread George Schick
Lately I've noticed that many suppliers aren't offering any 36 hole rims or hubs, as though they're going by the wayside. A quick check into the Phil Wood website shows they're only offering 36 hole in a few models. And another check into a major virtual bike shop with "36 hole" as a sort

[RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

2021-10-25 Thread lconley
I would always go with the 36. One reason is that the spokes at the rim joint cross, so the spoke tension is working to close the rim joint. This was the reason to go to 44 instead of 40 or 48 many, many years ago, but I think that 44 is an obsolete spoke count at this point. Rims are so much