[RBW] Re: Please help me wrap my head around this

2010-07-16 Thread EricP
I'd suggest the Surly/Nitto Torsion bar. You'll need new brake levers. Standard Tektro or whathaveyou will work. Actually have that setup on my Surly LHT. Not great for riding into a headwind. Otherwise, like you, I don't think about it. The other suggestion could be a pair of Salsa

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2010-07-16 Thread MichaelH
I'm curious about this. I ride drob bars exclusively, and love the noodles. I can understand someone finding the hand position of a particular bar more to their liking, but one thing that never comes up in these discussions is the relationship between bar comfort and seat comfort. I ride with

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2010-07-16 Thread Ginz
I agree that the Surly Torsion bar is a good choice since you did not like the Albatross bar. The Bullmoose sweeps back far, far more and you may not like the inward wrist position. I do believe that the 150mm Bullmoose from Riv sweeps bar far enough such that the ends of the grips are on the

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2010-07-16 Thread Mitch Browne
I rode my Salsa Casseroll on top of the drops for two years but recently drank lethal koolaid and assembled this with an 8 yr old Atlantis frame. http://tinyurl.com/2velsv3 I really enjoy my aluminum Albatross bars with bar end shifters. I did what many do. Cork / shellac grips on and then tape

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2010-07-16 Thread d2mini
Eric, That Torsion bar looks like it will work. A nice sweep, but not too much, and wide. Not much rise but my stem has tons of rise adjustment if needed. Thanks! On Jul 16, 7:29 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: I'd suggest the Surly/Nitto Torsion bar.  You'll need new brake levers.  

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2010-07-16 Thread Bill Connell
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:58 PM, d2mini d2creat...@gmail.com wrote: So if I get thumbies, then i can keep my derailleurs, correct? Yep, moving to a flat bar you'll just need new brake levers and shifters, the rest of the drivetrain will be fine. I was going to suggest trying a wider drop bar

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2010-07-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I agree wholeheartedly with William here: get your saddle back enough for hand, wrist, arm and shoulder comfort; at least, that is the first step. This rule applies no matter what bar you use. Peter Jon White (qv) also has a good article on fitting. Different strokes, of course, but a well set

Re: [RBW] Re: Please help me wrap my head around this

2010-07-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
If it works and you are comfortable and happy with them, then all is well. Try mtb bars on the HH and let us know how they work. On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:58 PM, d2mini d2creat...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the suggestions guys. But as weird as it sounds, i have tried a lot of bars and when

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2010-07-16 Thread LF
On Jul 15, 5:47 pm, d2mini d2creat...@gmail.com wrote: I currently have noodle bars on my homer commuter, 42cm width. My commute is about 12.5 miles each way and sometimes they can get a bit uncomfortable. I spend all my time on the tops. Hi, I agree with those who suspect that your

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2010-07-16 Thread CycloFiend
on 7/15/10 3:17 PM, d2mini at d2creat...@gmail.com wrote: I historically have hated straight bars, flat bars, mountain bars, Me too! Which is why I'm shocked that I'm liking them better and finding them much more comfortable. No matter the rise, stem length, etc I'm never 100% on the

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2010-07-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I also have gone back to drops after trying most of everthing else, this for comfort reasons. Again, horses for courses, but I too find myself going into the hooks for comfort or for more power without more exertion. As to JimG's note: a proper saddle position will have your torso cantilevering

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2010-07-16 Thread d2mini
I've had my bars at various heights from below the saddle to well above it. I can't have a lot of reach but a little lean is ok. I've had neck/shoulder issues to deal with over the past several years. So every little bit of tweeking fit/comfort helps and this is one of them. :) It's not a huge

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2010-07-15 Thread William
My opinion might not be worth much since I always go for drop bars first, but here goes. If you use drop bars and find you are always on the tops, most likely your fit setup is wrong. You should be able to comfortably ride on the hoods, easily get to the drops for speed and power, and sometimes

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2010-07-15 Thread Johnny Alien
By what you said I would immediately suggest Albatross bars. You could keep the stem and bar ends and would only need to replace the brake levers. While they aren't straight I think this would be to your advantage over a long drive because you will get that upright position you want but also

[RBW] Re: Please help me wrap my head around this

2010-07-15 Thread d2mini
I historically have hated straight bars, flat bars, mountain bars, Me too! Which is why I'm shocked that I'm liking them better and finding them much more comfortable. No matter the rise, stem length, etc I'm never 100% on the drop bars. Overall it seems to be due to the hand/wrist

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2010-07-15 Thread d2mini
Thanks, but albatross sweep back way too much, putting my hands/wrists in a totally different position. I want my hands out in front and almost straight, and wider than my shoulders. On Jul 15, 5:14 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: By what you said I would immediately suggest

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2010-07-15 Thread Johnny Alien
Albatross are a very wide bar. The Bullmoose will be swept back pretty far as well. I would not think a purely straight bar would be good or comfortable for over 12 miles at a time but I cannot argue with what you have found. :) With that said just find a good Nitto straight bar and dirt drop

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2010-07-15 Thread Michael_S
one other thing, along the lines of Williams comment.. is seat height. Are you leaning over to reach the bars?raising the seat could help reduce wrist pain. There is also the VO Milan and Jitensa flat bars to try in the upright bar category too. ~Mike~ On Jul 15, 3:22 pm, Johnny Alien

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2010-07-15 Thread Ray Shine
: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8581...@n03/4750899342/in/set-72157624271237165/ From: Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 3:22:39 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Please help me wrap my head

Re: [RBW] Re: Please help me wrap my head around this

2010-07-15 Thread Ray Shine
: [RBW] Re: Please help me wrap my head around this one other thing, along the lines of Williams comment.. is seat height. Are you leaning over to reach the bars?raising the seat could help reduce wrist pain. There is also the VO Milan and Jitensa flat bars to try in the upright bar category

RE: [RBW] Re: Please help me wrap my head around this

2010-07-15 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Please help me wrap my head around this I have used Jitensha flat bars on one bike and took them off. They are not as wide or as comfy as the Alba bars, IMHO. From: Michael_S mikeybi

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2010-07-15 Thread d2mini
Thanks for the suggestions guys. But as weird as it sounds, i have tried a lot of bars and when I'm on the mtn bike, i just don't think about my bars. Just like when I'm on my Homer and I don't think about my Brooks seat. I've done the albatross and dislike them. Done moustache and dislike those

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2010-07-15 Thread William
They have a couple of powdercoated ones for the same price. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/bullmoose-colors/40-022 When I talked to Jay yesterday, he said they had the orange ones and one of the greens left. On Jul 15, 3:17 pm, d2mini d2creat...@gmail.com wrote: I historically have

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2010-07-15 Thread Frankwurst
Simple. Stem, Bar and Thumbies. Problem solved. On Jul 15, 4:47 pm, d2mini d2creat...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, sometimes excessive google searching gives me a headache. :P I currently have noodle bars on my homer commuter, 42cm width. My commute is about 12.5 miles each way and sometimes they can