Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-19 Thread Jim Bronson
Microshift is making a Dyna-sys compatible 10 speed bar end shifter, I have not tried it though. On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Tim Gavin wrote: > >> "Both shifts to 36t in back and work up to 10 speed index Shimano road >> STI systems." > > > Yes, I can confirm this. I use the XT RD-M772 wit

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-19 Thread Jim Bronson
what did you do in lieu of a barrel adjuster? just make the adjustments at the downtube? I used the M4000 Alivio on my wife's bike because it is similar in design to this XT but has a barrel adjuster. On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Surlyprof wrote: > The price was a pleasant surprise. Riv

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-18 Thread Tim Gavin
> > > "Both shifts to 36t in back and work up to 10 speed index Shimano road STI > systems." Yes, I can confirm this. I use the XT RD-M772 with BS79 10-speed indexed bar-end shifters. It works great. Shimano 7-10 speed road and 7-9 speed MTB all use the SIS cable pull standard, so they're inter

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Surlyprof
The price was a pleasant surprise. Riv used to sell them for $104. The XCD might have been prettier but, after a quick test ride, I'm happy with the decision. Successfully installed, tuned and feeling faster (maybe smoother?) than ever. https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/2510027415

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Surlyprof
The price was a pleasant surprise. Riv used to sell them for $104. Successfully installed, tuned and feeling faster (maybe smoother?) than ever. https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/25100274155/in/dateposted-public/ Thanks for the great advice everyone! John On Wednesday, February 17

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Chad
That's a great price on probably one of the best 9-speed derailers still available. I've not tried the SunXCD, but I am glad to hear it works great. Might try it on my Roadeo. I found this interesting on the Riv product description page for the XT M772: "Both shifts to 36t in back and work u

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Clayton.sf
yes, it works. Even though the internets says it does not. On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 2:01:09 PM UTC-8, drew wrote: > > just to be clear, we are saying that the 10 speed shadow/clutch > derailleurs work fine with 8 speed ultegra shifters in friction mode and > xd2 style cranks? > > that

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread drew
just to be clear, we are saying that the 10 speed shadow/clutch derailleurs work fine with 8 speed ultegra shifters in friction mode and xd2 style cranks? thats good news. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe f

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Joe Bernard
I parked near American Cyclery once many years ago. Never again! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.co

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread David Person
I have both an XT and the SunXCD on bikes of mine. I have not noticed a difference in performance between them. The XCD has a barrel adjuster, the XT doesn't. As far as the XCD being the same derailleur as the MicroShift R10, it's apparent from looking at pictures of each that they are not th

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Surlyprof
I appreciated everyone's quick feedback on this. That xcd looks great but, for the sake of convenience, supporting riv and cost, I went with the xt. They had dropped the price to $75. The xcd would cost me $120 or more and a trip over the bridge (and have you ever tried to park near American

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Surlyprof
The research I did this morning implies that the xcd was more of a touring randonneur derailleur whereas the xt was more of a mountain one. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiv

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread René Sterental
I mean, the Sun XCD? How does it compare to the Shimano XT series? On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:35 AM, René Sterental wrote: > How does this one compare to the Shimano XT? Had never heard of it. > > René > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > >> SunXCD rear derailer. >> Its all

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread René Sterental
How does this one compare to the Shimano XT? Had never heard of it. René On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > SunXCD rear derailer. > Its all silver. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe f

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Clayton.sf
works very well with the xd2 crank and 8 speed chain. the longer cable pull even makes for more subtle trimmng. On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 9:16:23 AM UTC-8, Chad wrote: > > Hmm, I never thought about using the Shimano 9-speed bar ends in friction > mode to support a clutched rear deraile

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Jim Bronson
I have the Microshift R10 also and it works great and looks pretty in shiny silver. On Feb 17, 2016 08:49, "Ron Mc" wrote: > Adding to the SunXCD choice is the Microshift R10, which is the same > derailleur at lower cost. Aside from that, I would dodge the low-end > Shimano in favor of improved

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Lungimsam
Be sure to click on the pic of the XCD in the catalog mentioned above so you can see the sparkle effect. It does that when you hit 30mph. ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Lungimsam
Here's a catalog of rear derailers that Rivendell bike riders use. Please feel free to keep adding to the list, everyone! https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/WHAT$20DO$20RIVENDELL$20RIDERS/rbw-owners-bunch/LHVpR62Ov-I/JIxhMiFMr-IJ -- You received this message because yo

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Lungimsam
Here is a reference catalog of derailers riv riders use. Feel free to keep adding to the list everyone! https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/Rear$20derailers/rbw-owners-bunch/LHVpR62Ov-I -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW O

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Chad
Hmm, I never thought about using the Shimano 9-speed bar ends in friction mode to support a clutched rear derailer. I believe all the clutch deraillers are 10-speed. I wonder how this would work with the XD2 crank? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Clayton.sf
To add one more o this. If you friction shift you can make a modern xt derailer work despite the different cable pull. At least it works with my 8 speed shimano ultegra shifters. Shifts very well across the whole cassette. Main reason to go that route is to get a clutched derailer. So much quiet

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Surlyprof
Wow! Thanks everyone. This is very helpful. I hadn't thought about Jeff's suggestion of the "semi-vintage" XT derailleurs of the '90's. I used to use both of those and couldn't kill either on previous mountain bikes I’ve owned. Unfortunately, I need to purchase and install something toda

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Will
I have an Altus. It works like Riv says it does. Shifts well, trims easily. For 20-something bucks what's to lose? On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 9:25:45 PM UTC-6, Surlyprof wrote: > > Riding my canti-Hillborne to work today, my pedals came to a very abrupt > stop. One of the chain links pop

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Ron Mc
Adding to the SunXCD choice is the Microshift R10, which is the same derailleur at lower cost. Aside from that, I would dodge the low-end Shimano in favor of improved materials and Q/C on the higher-grade choices. Since the 70s, Shimano has designed a weight-saving stress-riser into all their

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread WETH
John, Sorry to learn of your mechanical issues and glad you got home easily enough. I have used many different derailers over the years. Currently I use the Altus on 2 Rivs, a Nashbar/microshift on 3 bikes, and a Deore on another. I honestly cannot tell the difference. (Good wine is also w

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-16 Thread Lungimsam
SunXCD rear derailer. Its all silver. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, s

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-16 Thread Joe Bernard
I'd like to try one of those clutch derailers Shimano makes that prevents chain-slap. There's a tiny wrench under a cover which you use to adjust how how strong the friction is. I have no idea how this actually works, I just think it's hilarious you can buy a derailer with a wrench inside ;) --

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-16 Thread sameness
Agreed on whimsy and anti-snobbery, but if your bike was mine, I'd spend the same twenty-whatever bucks on a gently used M737/739 and hope that I get summoned in a seance 100 years from now so I can check in on it. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are