Re: [RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-18 Thread Aaron Russell
I believe he was filmed riding the retro-direct bike forwards and they're playing the video backwards, or did I miss someone saying that already? Aaron On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:01 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: OK, here's a real brain-tweaker.  A retro-direct bike cannot be rolled

Re: [RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-18 Thread CycloFiend
on 11/17/10 11:26 AM, Jeremy Till at jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Retro-direct drivetrains were developed in the early years of multi- speed bicycles as just another way to have multiple gears, around the same time that IGH's and modern derailers were being developed and before either of

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-18 Thread John Bennett
It has been postulated, but not proven! Cheers, John, rider at the helm. On Nov 18, 9:47 am, Aaron Russell aa...@suchfun.net wrote: I believe he was filmed riding the retro-direct bike forwards and they're playing the video backwards, or did I miss someone saying that already? Aaron -- You

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-18 Thread Lee
Right, because the action of the water shows the video is being played backwards. Because of that, all motions you see in the video were actually their reverse in real (non-fun workplace) life. Lee SF, CA On Nov 18, 9:47 am, Aaron Russell aa...@suchfun.net wrote: I believe he was filmed riding

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-18 Thread Lee
On Nov 18, 2:18 pm, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: actually their reverse in real (non-fun workplace) life.* I meant my workplace doesn't appear to be as fun as life at RBW, haha. Lee SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-18 Thread William
I know, right? I keep thinking that RivHQ could have a reality show. If for no better reason than to document the parade of weirdo customers. Except for me, I'm their only normal customer. The rest of you are weirdos. On Nov 18, 2:22 pm, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 18, 2:18 pm, Lee

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-18 Thread Lee
On Nov 18, 2:34 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I know, right?  I keep thinking that RivHQ could have a reality show. If for no better reason than to document the parade of weirdo customers.  Except for me, I'm their only normal customer.  The rest of you are weirdos. Wait, do you mean

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-17 Thread Mike
In 2007 there was a guy who did PBP on a retro-direct bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/27089...@n00/1405449140/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/greggbleakney/2069160082/ It took me watching that video a couple of times to figure out what was going on. Love that song. --mike -- You received

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-17 Thread Mike
Oh yeah, one more link: http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/back-pedalling-onion-man-attempts-paris-brest-paris-11932 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-17 Thread Jeremy Till
Retro-direct drivetrains were developed in the early years of multi- speed bicycles as just another way to have multiple gears, around the same time that IGH's and modern derailers were being developed and before either of those were perfected enough to become ubiquitous. I suppose an advantage

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-16 Thread William
OK, here's a real brain-tweaker. A retro-direct bike cannot be rolled backwards under any circumstance. You have to pick up the rear wheel to back up the bike. Wrap your head around that. On Nov 12, 4:15 pm, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote: i finally understand. e On Fri, Nov

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-12 Thread Z I
Man, I love this video. I've never heard of a retro-direct drive before. I've also never been particularly excited about single speed bikes since I moved up to geared ones when I was a teenager, but the mechanic/engineer side of me is fascinated by this retro-direct drive. I think a SimpleOne

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-12 Thread William
If and when you complete the exercise of building the large freewheel (24T to 28T probably), make a couple extras and sell them here. On Nov 12, 11:40 am, Z I rockscissorpa...@gmail.com wrote: Man, I love this video. I've never heard of a retro-direct drive before. I've also never been

Re: [RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-12 Thread Ray Shine
at. From: Z I rockscissorpa...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 11:40:30 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Riding backwards. Man, I love this video. I've never heard of a retro-direct drive before. I've also never been particularly

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-12 Thread William
Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 11:40:30 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Riding backwards. Man, I love this video. I've never heard of a retro-direct drive before. I've also never been particularly excited about single speed bikes since I moved up to geared ones

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-12 Thread Z I
I saw these being used in one of the youtube videos on this. This is a good resource.. $75 seems pretty steep though. Unless you compare it the two-cog White Industries freewheel Riv sells! I guess that's what an An eccentric bike nerd building a retro-direct bike has to pay. A 26T sounds just

Re: [RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-12 Thread erik jensen
for the cheapest route, why not match chain differences between the two front chainrings across a typical cassette? then you wouldn't need to do much other than wrap the chain and maybe replace the unused cogs with spacers. ie. 46x34 front matched to 16x28 rear maybe i'm missing something, but

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-12 Thread William
Either you're missing something or I'm missing what you are saying. The key for retro direct is that there have to be two independent freewheel mechanisms because when one is driving the wheel, the other one is freewheeling backwards. You can't just use two cogs on one cassette, because that

Re: [RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-12 Thread erik jensen
i finally understand. e On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 3:51 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Either you're missing something or I'm missing what you are saying. The key for retro direct is that there have to be two independent freewheel mechanisms because when one is driving the wheel, the

Re: [RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:25 AM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Same here, and while I get it, take a close look at the chain line on that bike.  Is it a kickstand making it look odd or are there other things going on down there? Rob - who shold never watch things that make the brain work

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Pretty sure it's a retro-direct drivetrain. On Nov 9, 7:38 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:25 AM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Same here, and while I get it, take a close look at the chain line on that bike.  Is it a kickstand making it look odd or are

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-09 Thread rperks
Same here, and while I get it, take a close look at the chain line on that bike. Is it a kickstand making it look odd or are there other things going on down there? Rob - who shold never watch things that make the brain work too hard right befor bed On Nov 8, 9:50 pm, Philip Williamson

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-09 Thread jlvota
Whoa, that is cool! At first I thought that he was just coasting with a freewheel and backpedaling in a uniform motion to make it appear that he was pedaling forward when the video was played backward. But then, if you pause the video at 0:26, you can see that the chain appears to make a figure

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-09 Thread jlvota
I just looked up retro-direct as I have never heard of it before, and that makes perfect sense now. Thanks for the knowledge. On Nov 9, 8:33 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Pretty sure it's a retro-direct drivetrain. On Nov 9, 7:38 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-09 Thread Philip Williamson
Hence the four times through. It looks like the chain makes a figure eight, so pedaling backwards drives it forward, I imagine the machine was the genesis of the idea. I think it's really well done, with lots of cool details. I didn't even see the guy pouring water the first time. I'm totally

Re: [RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-09 Thread andrew hill
man. now i want a retro-direct SimpleOne. -andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-08 Thread Philip Williamson
That was very cool. I watched it about four times to figure out what was going on. I think I need to watch it again to be sure. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Nov 8, 8:30 pm, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: awesome! On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:15 PM, manueljohnacosta