[RBW] Re: Roadinis could be arriving any day now?

2017-12-14 Thread lum gim fong
I wish that they would run a short run of a super lightweight Flexi road model. They do short runs of bikes like this and the Bubbe it would be cool if they did a super Flexi light one one day. Would be cool to see what they make in that style. Yes I know that's not their thing so please

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2017-12-14 Thread Belopsky
What I wish was also mentioned was 'stack and reach'. It's 'easy' to plug these numbers into a CAD program (bikecad, rattlecad) to find them, but seems like a really quick thing for RBW to start including as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

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2017-12-13 Thread Adam Kilgas
On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 8:26:31 PM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote: > The full geometry is on the roadini page. RBW did not make links stand out > with the latest design/CSS. > Here you all go: > > https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/ROADINI-470-Geo.jpg?7649874663519573416x > >

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2017-12-13 Thread Belopsky
The full geometry is on the roadini page. RBW did not make links stand out with the latest design/CSS. Here you all go: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/ROADINI-470-Geo.jpg?7649874663519573416x

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2017-12-13 Thread Adam Kilgas
On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 1:07:48 PM UTC-5, tc wrote: > Regarding Roadini vs Sam, for those who've ridden both, what's the main diff?  > Roadini frame is ~$400 less than Sam, so that's obvious.  But geo-wise the > 57 Roadini seems abt same as 58 Sam, the Roadini being a little less

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2017-12-13 Thread Belopsky
Anyone catch the Roadini on the BlueLug blog? https://bluelug.com/blog/hatagaya/hatagaya-bike-check-3/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2017-11-30 Thread Max S
Tire clearance, 47 vs. 35 sans fenders, if I’m not mistaken?.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2017-11-30 Thread tc
Regarding Roadini vs Sam, for those who've ridden both, what's the main diff? Roadini frame is ~$400 less than Sam, so that's obvious. But geo-wise the 57 Roadini seems abt same as 58 Sam, the Roadini being a little less slack, but not much. Sam I'm guessing is a little heavier, better

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadinis could be arriving any day now?

2017-11-30 Thread Belopsky
The only thing I have to add is I've heard great things about the R460. They build up really well and are solid. I have a set being laced to Shimano 5800 hubs for my Gunnar -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

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2017-11-30 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
I have the same rim on my front dyno-wheel. Any issues? I've had mine for about a year and really like it. Jay On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 10:51:13 PM UTC+2, Nels Sorenson wrote: > > Thanks Rich, > Those are DT Swiss R460 rims: 23mm outside, 18mm inside. > Nels > > On Wednesday, November

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadinis could be arriving any day now?

2017-11-29 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch
That is a damn fine looking bike :) On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 11:43:54 AM UTC-6, Nels Sorenson wrote: > > Here are some updated pics of current iteration Grilver Roadini. I'm > liking the Berthoud saddle and wider tires/rims. Ride is smoother, less > nervous and still fast with the

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2017-11-29 Thread Nels Sorenson
Thanks Rich, Those are DT Swiss R460 rims: 23mm outside, 18mm inside. Nels On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 12:01:45 PM UTC-8, RichS wrote: > Nels, your Roadini looks great! What brand are the rims and how wide are > they (outside width). > > Tim, thanks for those revealing pictures of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadinis could be arriving any day now?

2017-11-29 Thread Tim Gavin
> > > > Tim, thanks for those revealing pictures of the tire clearance on your > former Roadeo. Surprised you could fit a 38mm wide tire between the chain > stays. I guess the Open Pro rims are what. . . 20mm outside width? > > I’ve been building a Roadeo and max tire I can fit between the chain

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2017-11-29 Thread R Shannon
Nels, your Roadini looks great! What brand are the rims and how wide are they (outside width). Tim, thanks for those revealing pictures of the tire clearance on your former Roadeo. Surprised you could fit a 38mm wide tire between the chain stays. I guess the Open Pro rims are what. . . 20mm

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2017-11-29 Thread R Shannon
Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 29, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Nels Sorenson wrote: > > Here are some updated pics of current iteration Grilver Roadini. I'm liking > the Berthoud saddle and wider tires/rims. Ride is smoother, less nervous and > still fast with the Jack

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadinis could be arriving any day now?

2017-11-29 Thread Tim Gavin
It looks like Centaur is new this summer, so maybe it's just not widely available yet. I can't see myself buying new Campagnolo, but I respect their quality and that they keep making a couple silver gruppos. My Riv (97 Road Standard) is still on its original Racing Triple BB and crankset (with

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2017-11-29 Thread iamkeith
( I meant to say R-539 brakes on both of the above instances - not 533 ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2017-11-29 Thread iamkeith
I'm curious about Don's comments regarding tire clearance. Does the Roadeo really have more chainstay clearance than the Rambouillet? It sure doesn't look like it in the last thumbnail image currently on the website. I'm also not sure this is the critical area - I would have guessed that the

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadinis could be arriving any day now?

2017-11-28 Thread Belopsky
The Centaur, that is. Veloce 10speed is still relatively easy to find, and the Potenza group as well. Veloce, for instance: https://www.raceviewcycles.com/campagnolo-veloce-groupset-2015-10-speed-silver?language=en=USD Sometime last winter/spring/summer I saw the Veloce groupset for ~370 which

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2017-11-28 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch
Chris: I also have a San Marcos and have long lusted after the Roadeo (which doesn't come in my size). The Roadini seemed very similar to my current bike and I would be interested to know the differences. Please post how they compare once your new bike gets in. Ann On Tuesday, November 28,

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2017-11-28 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Interesting. I am getting a Roadini and the San Marcos is currently my favorite fast bike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2017-11-28 Thread LBleriot
I have a Ram, a Rom, A Roadeo, a Soma San Marcos (see a pattern here?) and I find that the Roadini is closest to the San Marcos, then the Ram/Rom, and least like the Roadeo. YMMV. On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 11:59:16 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Don: I'm at least somewhat personally

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2017-11-28 Thread Don Compton
Just looking at the Roadini frame from the side, it looks like it has the longer chainstays of the Ram vs the Roadeo. The Ram had less room between the chain stays ( width) than a Roadeo or many of their current models. I bet that the Roadini is a great road bike that can handle today's fat but

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2017-11-28 Thread Belopsky
The Roadini is a nice looking bike, and I totally understand the reason to go with a sloping top tube. The other thing Grant didn't say in regards to this model but, the sloping top tube allows them to make less frame sizes to fit more people/sell more bikes :) IMO i very much dislike sloping

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2017-11-28 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Then again, maybe you're ready now for sedate and stoutish... >From what the designer has said several times since the model was announced, the Roadini was more or less created to be a less expensive alternative to the company's "road bike" model, ie, the Roadeo. I did not look to compare the

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2017-11-27 Thread Patrick Moore
Don: I'm at least somewhat personally interested, having owned and sold a Ram and yearned after a Roadeo. Are you saying (I want to be very clear) that the Roadini is closer in design to the Ram than to the Roadeo? The reason: I thought the Ram was a very nice bike, but it was a wee bit sedate

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2017-11-27 Thread Don Compton
I currently own a 59cm Roadeo and owned a 60cm Rambouilet in the past. With the exception of the sloping top tube and the extra space for fat tires, the Roadini's geo looks very similar to a Ram. On Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 12:21:34 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote: > > Anxiously awaiting their

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2017-11-27 Thread LBleriot
My grilver was delivered a few days ago and to my surprise came with a packing tape gun inside the main triangle! I know that the seatpost, HS and BB were included, but the tape gun was a nice extra. Anyways, after collecting all of the various and sundry parts I built it up over the holiday

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2017-11-04 Thread Paul Y
Hi Richard, Don’t think I’m in any position to comment on that, but I think they are practically similar based on the literature. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

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2017-11-03 Thread Belopsky
Roadeo (iirc) is made of thinner tubing and comes in more sizes. The geometry is also different. I am so hung up on the sloping top tubes on bikes that I asked Gunnar to make my custom w/ as horizontal top tube as possible,. On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 10:06:40 AM UTC-4, RichS wrote: > >

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2017-11-03 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm not Paul, but I can tell you that, given the same parts hanging off the frame and fork, the difference in weight will be minimal--ounces, not pounds. Slightly more metal in the tubing, but less tubing for a given size. Essentially weight between the two should be a non-factor, unless

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadinis could be arriving any day now?

2017-11-03 Thread R Shannon
Paul, I'm curious. Do you think the Roadini would be much different than the Roadeo? They seem comparable other than frame tubes, number of lugs on the Roadeo and perhaps a couple of pounds weight difference. Thanks very much, Richard On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 12:50 AM, Paul Y

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2017-11-02 Thread Paul Y
That looks fantastic Nels, the Grilver is gorgeous. Your colorful saddle is a very fun touch! What cranks are those? Looking at your build makes me want to take all the useful stuff off of my grey/red Roadeo and go blasting. On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 11:32:09 PM UTC+8, Nels Sorenson

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2017-11-02 Thread RichS
Nels, you've got a great looking pair of Rivs there! Love the curve on the Roadini fork. Nice pics too! Regards, Richard On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 8:14:53 PM UTC-4, Nels Sorenson wrote: > > Thought I'd give an update and short ride impressions of my 51 Roadini. > I've got about a

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2017-11-02 Thread Sky Coulter
Both bikes look fantastic Nels! And your Roadini is making me wonder how the ride would compare w my Romulus. Sky in new west > On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Nels Sorenson wrote: > > Thought I'd give an update and short ride impressions of my 51 Roadini. > I've got

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2017-11-02 Thread William R.
Very nice Nels. The scrub is a great backdrop. Central Washington is so different. It looks like the high plains or desert! Enjoy your Rivs, I sure am enjoying mine! Bill in Westchester, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

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2017-11-02 Thread Ian A
+1. The Roadini looks super sharp, and that butterscotch colour on the Clem is really nice. A good brace of bicycles. IanA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

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2017-11-01 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Very,very nice! I like your builds -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

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2017-11-01 Thread Joe Bernard
I dig it. The butternut Clem is suave, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

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2017-10-24 Thread Jay Connolly
If anyone has a 61, I’d love to know the virtual top tube length and the stack. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2017-10-24 Thread Daniel D.
Picked mine up yesterday. Really happy with the blue. Pointed tips with contrasting paint and the paw prints are really nice touches On Sunday,

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2017-10-24 Thread Ed Carolipio
Congrats, Nels, and thanks for sharing. --Ed C. On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 8:32:09 AM UTC-7, Nels Sorenson wrote: > > Frame arrived yesterday, did a quick built up and now trying out stems to > see which is the ticket. > This is the first drop-bar bike I've had in twenty years. After a

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2017-10-24 Thread islaysteve
So I guess that the Roadini is the new Bleriot, only, you know, not 650b. I say this as a Bleriot owner. I took a good look at the photos on the Riv site last night and it's a great-looking bike. Similar price point to where the Bleriot was, and the blue color is even quite similar. I

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2017-10-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
It's usually me who builds fast and wants to show off, but I didn't buy a Roadini, so it won't be me this time. :-) Speaking of quick builds, I'll start a new thread... Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 12:12:02 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote: > > Got the call yesterday

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2017-10-18 Thread Daniel D.
Got the call yesterday too. Gotta make time to go pick it up. Wonder who's going to be the first to show off their build? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

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2017-10-18 Thread William R.
Will called me last night. My 57cm Grilver Roadini is there. I am building it up myself so the frame should be on its way to me today. Can’t wait! Bill in Westchester, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

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2017-10-17 Thread LBleriot
Grant called me yesterday. We switched up the size based on our discussion, and my frameset should be shipping out this week. On Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:21:34 PM UTC-4, Daniel D. wrote: > > Anxiously awaiting their arrival. Got all my parts, excited for the > looming build. > -- You

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2017-10-17 Thread Nels Sorenson
Mine's getting prepped for shipping right now. Got the call from Mark yesterday, looking forward to building this up on the weekend! Nels On Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 6:07:24 PM UTC-7, Jay Connolly wrote: > Dave told me a while back that they could be in as early as October 6th. > I'm sure

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2017-10-15 Thread Jay Connolly
Dave told me a while back that they could be in as early as October 6th. I'm sure we'd know if that had happened. I'm not getting a Roadini, but I've been watching the site for builds and frames because after the Roadinis are in, the Big Clem L's will be next! Jay On Sunday, October 15, 2017