[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-10 Thread Irv
Thanks for the post Manny. We've gotten a lot of good (and other not so good) responses on the internet and I'm glad Carlin's discussion of The Rules has started a discussion with other cyclists. Here's my addendum to Carlin's rules:

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-10 Thread Ron Mc
or the evil storm chasers in Twister... On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:45:53 AM UTC-5, Irv wrote: Thanks for the post Manny. We've gotten a lot of good (and other not so good) responses on the internet and I'm glad Carlin's discussion of The Rules has started a discussion with other

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-09 Thread Steven Frederick
Heh, I got a twofer by putting a TakeALook mirror on my helmet visor... On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: Rats. Looks like there are one or two I haven't broken yet. Need to get out there and work on them. Now, how to attach a mirror... Eric Platt

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-08 Thread Ron Mc
I live in the hill country north of San Antonio. Standard ride from my house is down to the creek bottom, follow the creek road, then climb to the next neighborhood park - it's a 20-mi round trip (ends in a grueling climb for me). People haul their bikes from San Antonio to ride it - the

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-08 Thread George Schick
Tongue in cheek humor or otherwise, some of these rules could be taken seriously. #77 is one of them. Now, I have don't necessarily have anything against discarding the peelings or cores of eaten fruit along a ride, because they are biodegradable. But do they have to be just dropped right

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-07 Thread Leslie
#11 is the one that bothers me, that I don't find as funny, but the story that goes with it is kinda amusing... #29 and #30 (saddlebags and framepumps), and #33 and #50 (shaved legs and faces), yeah, I bust on those. On Friday, September 6, 2013 9:55:34 PM UTC-4, William wrote: My

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-07 Thread Patrick Moore
This is a rule that is always true and should be applied to Rivendell's caps. Me, I add an extra touch of cool (or dork) by folding the last half-inch of stock caps over to shorten the visor. Or perhaps I just have a low brow. 1. The visor. This is the most important part. Visors should be

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-07 Thread Ross Sponholtz
I enjoyed reading the rules, mostly because it enumerated a lot of the silly stuff we obsessed about back when I raced (and I'm sure the racers still obsess about). Stuff like Tan Lineshttp://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#7 , No Mirrors http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#66, Saddle must be

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-07 Thread Patrick Moore
As in being casually deliberate -- example, when you've killed yourself hauling in a distant rider and, putting on a burst of speed to pass him impressively, you casually lift a finger in greeting and murmur nice bike -- carefully suppressing your gasping and your impulse to gag with fatigue. On

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-07 Thread Garth
Forget about this rule, that rule any and all rules .. even no rules ;) Really ... just forget about everything that does not serve you to the Highest Degree of Goodness . and Be the Truth :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Mc
Sorry to maintain this fly fishing and bicycling analogy, but it is apropos. HG Wells said, *Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race. * Contagion is the key. If you're a contagious bicyclist, or a contagious fly fisherman, it's because you

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-06 Thread Tom Goodmann
+1 on that point, Ron: I always feel like a happy kid again on a bike, every single time. And I am never happier than when on a stream with family and friends, or alone, as well. Rules? Fun to make; fun to break among aficionados of various spots and stripes. As I think has been said on this

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
In our house we only have one rule and everyone is responsible for following it and helping others follow it. Uphold Right Relationship. Seems to me it works for everything. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-06 Thread Scott Henry
The only one that matters is Rule #5. Next time I'm in the shop getting some tattoo work done, I'm seriously considering adding it. Long live the Velominati Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH FTM-PTB On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: In our house

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-06 Thread Eric Platt
Rats. Looks like there are one or two I haven't broken yet. Need to get out there and work on them. Now, how to attach a mirror... Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Scott Henry ske...@gmail.com wrote: The only one that matters is Rule #5. Next time I'm in the shop

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-06 Thread William
My biggest and most consistent violations are #33 and (obviously) #43 On Friday, September 6, 2013 5:41:52 PM UTC-7, EricP wrote: Rats. Looks like there are one or two I haven't broken yet. Need to get out there and work on them. Now, how to attach a mirror... Eric Platt St. Paul, MN

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Tom Goodmann
Thanks for the link--enjoyable. And the Velominati made me laugh, as well; The Rules seem quaint, from sometime before blood doping etc blew the Tour wide open, and not where cycling is headed now, world-over. On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 11:55:28 PM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote: By far one

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Ron Mc
American Posterior Man Satchel (Acorn) complete with blinkie http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP8050006.jpg I think I got the last one - looks like Ron discontinued the Acorn tubular bag. (astounded by how much stuff I can put in here in addition to folded

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Mike
Thanks for sharing this Manny, it was an enjoyable read. The Rules are pretty funny and there is something cool about them if taken tongue cheek. I think of Grant's Tips for Happy Riding as a Rivendell version of The Rules. http://www.rivbike.com/kb_results.asp?ID=60 Oh, then there's

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Ron Mc
great links - as always, Grant's make the most sense. On Thursday, September 5, 2013 9:19:02 AM UTC-5, Mike wrote: Thanks for sharing this Manny, it was an enjoyable read. The Rules are pretty funny and there is something cool about them if taken tongue cheek. I think of Grant's Tips

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Christopher Wiggins
The rules keep people from enjoying their bikes. Not a big fan of that. On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 11:55:28 PM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote: By far one of my favorite bike blogs to read. Kinda of bias since I'm friends with these gentlemen. But nevertheless fun read.

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Anne Paulson
Somebody posted the Rules on my bike club's site. When I called them on it, they said, oh, they're just a joke. Yeah, sure, except that I've seen how people who break the rules are treated on club rides. Not nastily, because my club is full of nice people, but rather condescendingly. There's one

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread NickBull
In the famous words of Eddy Merckx, Just follow these 100 rules and you will be a successful bike rider. Oh, wait, he never said that... What a bunch of prissy little poseurs these rule makers are. On Thursday, September 5, 2013 10:44:10 AM UTC-4, Christopher Wiggins wrote: The rules keep

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread dougP
Don't have time to plow thru all The Rules at the moment (got about one-third of the way before getting a bit bored) but do they mention kickstands? We have a subversive group in our bike club that delights in parking our bikes on kickstands, if plain site of the carbonic armada. dougP On

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Tom Goodmann
Right on all counts, Mike: we can all just ride. I think The Rules are pretty funny too--and likely read so for many followers, though maybe not for all. It has been great to see the cycling community here in Miami become a) much more visible and b) much more varied in recent years, including

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Tom Goodmann
I relish the smirks that meet the drop of the kickstand on my Sam! Better than leaning it against a light pole in a coffee stand parking lot crowded with crabon bikes, as BikeSnobNYC likes to call them. Nice photo, Ron Mc! On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:23 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Don't

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Ron Mc
snobbery is human nature, and a the $-largest sports/entertainment market on the planet is not going to be short of snob appeal. A few rungs down is fly fishing, and I often use techy bike sales kids as an analogy to techy fly shop sales kids. My favorite fly fishing essay by John Gierach,

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Mike Schiller
...actually I think there are some good rules there... yea, some are a little bizarre and don't make sense. And I'm sure most of the bizarre ones are just for fun. I'm actually more put off by this blog piece than the list. They seem to have missed the point of it all. I think they took it

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread William
I think the majority of The Rules are good rules. I break plenty of them, and obsessively follow a lot of them as well, even some of the pointless ones. I bet I follow more of the rules than Manny does. But I'm much more of a poser conformist than Manny is. On Wednesday, September 4, 2013

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Leslie
On Thursday, September 5, 2013 2:30:48 PM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: snobbery is human nature, and a the $-largest sports/entertainment market on the planet is not going to be short of snob appeal. A few rungs down is fly fishing, and I often use techy bike sales kids as an analogy to techy fly

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Jimmy Hutch
90/92 rules are complete horseshit. I personally love #12 ( http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#12 ) and #5 ( http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#5 ), respectively. I recognize the conflict because if I was a bit harder, I would be able to get by with a single steed, rendering #12 moot. A

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Robert Barr
Manny, thanks for posting this. I was laughing all through the list*. *Some of the comments remind me that humor doesn't always travel well... Bob (Indianapolis) On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Jimmy Hutch ji...@jimmyhutchinson.comwrote: 90/92 rules are complete horseshit. I personally love

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Humor travels just fine. Sometimes it lands in hostile territory and gets slaughtered. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:24:58 PM UTC-6, Robert Barr wrote: Manny, thanks for posting this. I was laughing all through the list*. *Some of the comments remind me that humor

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Robert Barr
Patrick, well said, as usual. Always glad to know you are out there. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Humor travels just fine. Sometimes it lands in hostile territory and gets slaughtered. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, September 5, 2013

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Robert. I'm out there all right! I wasn't sure if I should put a grin on that one, but thought I'd see what happens. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:39:16 PM UTC-6, Robert Barr wrote: Patrick, well said, as usual. Always glad to know you are out there.

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread dougP
I could see the grin from here. Wonder how much time was spent developing the rules? I finally plowed thru the whole lot, only to find myself in violation of any number: beard, mirror, bags-on-bikes, excess water bottle size number, absolutely lost on the helmet glasses issue, etc., etc.

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Robert Barr
As Doug wrote - the grin was there - I could almost see the pipe in the smile! On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 11:05 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I could see the grin from here. Wonder how much time was spent developing the rules? I finally plowed thru the whole lot, only to find myself in

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Ron Mc
Leslie, my point was that people proud of their stuff and their activities get their feelings hurt just as often in fly shops just as often as they do in bike shops, by well-informed sales people who may not have or share the experiences of the people they're taking to task. Both are

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread William
90/92 rules are complete horseshit That's a bit hyperbolic, isn't it? Here are ten that are good (not the only ten) #2: Be a good example #3: Help those that have things to learn #6: Don't think too much. Enjoy the ride #9: It doesn't have to be sunny to ride #14: Black cycling shorts

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Andy Williams
According to those who know, the first rule is, Break all the rules! Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-05 Thread Philip Williamson
I'll be working on #5 for the foreseeable future. I thought The Rules were very well written, with a clear sense of respectful silliness. I'm happy my riding mates are accepting of anyone willing to ride ten miles on a bike. The ride leader adheres to every rule (I mean Rule), with a clear