Re: [RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-02-03 Thread Patrick Moore
Huh? Good thing I learned about this, since I've been doing it all wrong (and stopped buying patches in lots of 100 twice a year, really) since about 2013! Of course it's worth it if your options don't include tubeless. I agree that (in my experience, which is limited to tubeless tires that are

Re: [RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-02-03 Thread Victor Hanson
IMHO not worth it. The time used to get sealant in tubes is royal pita. You would be better going with a tubeless ready tire and tire sauce. As I have stated before, you ride a lot, experiment with making your own,, if you ride less than 100 miles simply use one of the many available sealants.

Re: [RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-31 Thread Brett Callahan
Thanks, everyone, for your input. I put sealant in my tubes last night using a chain tool to remove the cores. It was an easy process. On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 7:30 PM Ron Mc wrote: > Coming in late, in Barlow and Stampede Pass ELs, I use Challenge latex > cross tubes. Up front, living with

[RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-30 Thread Ron Mc
Coming in late, in Barlow and Stampede Pass ELs, I use Challenge latex cross tubes. Up front, living with latex tubes requires pumping every day when you ride, and once/wk when you don't. Or if you store the bike, store it on a stand that keeps the wheels off the ground. I don't add

Re: [RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-30 Thread DarinM
I can’t answer that question because I stopped checking pressure and just add/release air when I see the need. I think I’m probably around 25-30psi according to the pump I sometimes use with a gauge, which may or may not apply to the gauge you use. Darin “no pressure gauges, no masters” in

Re: [RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-30 Thread Craig Montgomery
Yesterday I OS'ed for the first time the 35mm Compass (Bon Jovie Pass?), with tubes. Had a goathead flat. What I didn't know was that there was more than one goathead lurking in that tire. Those little suckers hide in the tread and just barely protrude into the tire. You can feel for them but

Re: [RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-30 Thread Patrick Moore
Sheesh: for the effectiveness of sealant *in tubes.* On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 8:26 AM Patrick Moore wrote: > Thanks, Shoji. So perhaps 25 psi is some sort of threshold for the > effectiveness of sealants. > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 7:35 AM Shoji Takahashi > wrote: > >> Hi Patrick, >> I use

Re: [RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-30 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Shoji. So perhaps 25 psi is some sort of threshold for the effectiveness of sealants. On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 7:35 AM Shoji Takahashi wrote: > Hi Patrick, > I use 38mm Loup Loup and 42mm BSP... so quite a bit narrower than 2". With > those tires, I inflate to 25 - 40psi. > > For 2" or

Re: [RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-30 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Patrick, I use 38mm Loup Loup and 42mm BSP... so quite a bit narrower than 2". With those tires, I inflate to 25 - 40psi. For 2" or larger, I'm with you and would go tubeless. Also, I'm another person who tried Schwalbe extra light tubes, and had splitting problems (and sealant leakage).

Re: [RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-29 Thread Patrick Moore
+1 on full tubeless, for fat and soft, but I'm not convinced that for at least supple tires, tubeless is better than tubed, and there's some support for this position. I did however get sealant into many prestas without removable cores; just remove them anyway and pinch tube to keep them from

Re: [RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-29 Thread Patrick Moore
I'll add: OS seems to last longer in tubes than Stan's. OS seems to last as long as in the bottle; Stan's has turned into boogers after a year or 18 months. But both dry up in very thin-casing tubeless tires, at least around here in high desert ABQ and I have to replenish, in summer, every 3

Re: [RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Darin an Shoji: what pressures do you use in your 2"+ tires with tubes and sealant? I could not get OS to work with 2" tubes in F Freds at 25 psi and lower; no good at all, so I went to tubeless. On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:22 AM DarinM wrote: > I have used sealant in tubes for 6-8 months. I use

[RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-29 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Tubes have to be built with removable valve cores from the start. You can't swap them out, as it's the entire valve that is different. It's hit or miss at a LBS when you're trying to find them, so check first. I've run Stan's in tubes before, and have had marginal success. Maybe 75% of the

[RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-29 Thread DarinM
Both, I've removed them from other tubes and bought them at the bike shop. I'll also add on to the negative experience with Schwalbe Extra Light tubes, I've had four split at the seam at typical pressures in Compass 26x54 tires. At least they had removable cores... Darin On Tuesday, January

[RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-29 Thread Brett Callahan
Thanks for the notes, very helpful. Did you remove the valve cores from another set of tubes, or are they available as a part on their own? On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 9:22:33 AM UTC-8, DarinM wrote: > > I have used sealant in tubes for 6-8 months. I use standard Stan's sealant > in

[RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-29 Thread Brett Callahan
Thanks, I'll avoid the extralight tubes and go with something heartier. I just verified that the stack of Specialized tubes I have at home do have removable cores, so I'll start there. On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 9:23:00 AM UTC-8, Drw wrote: > > I actually just did this last night for the

[RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-29 Thread Brett Callahan
Thanks, this is just what I was looking for. The tip about the chain tool is great. I was planning on attempting it with needle nose pliers or tweezers. Chain tool seems easier! On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 8:21:01 AM UTC-8, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > > Hi Brett, > I use Orange Seal in tubes

[RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-29 Thread Drw
I actually just did this last night for the first time and basically did it just as Shoji describes, though I used about 2-3oz of orange seal. It's pretty easy, and i cant see a reason to not do it, especially if you have removable core tubes. Someone mentioned that the installer tube for

[RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-29 Thread DarinM
I have used sealant in tubes for 6-8 months. I use standard Stan's sealant in Schwalbe tubes for 26x54 and 650bx42 tires and have not had a flat I had to stop and deal with since starting. The tubes have removable cores, which I remove and then use the Stan's injector to add 2-3oz. I think I

[RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

2019-01-29 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Brett, I use Orange Seal in tubes (butyl and latex) with Compass 584x38 and 584x42 (regular, not EL casing). I think it helps, but my frequency of flats was low before sealant. My rides are generally commutes, and getting a flat can be an expensive nuisance if I'm late for child pickup.