[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
Cool... On Jun 21, 4:28 pm, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Just got back from a little loop in Grand Isle today - The Shore Roads (East and West) are beautiful. On Jun 21, 9:34 am, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 20, 8:58 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Once you're out on Grand Isle, there are several options... One of them is to take a nice ferry ride into Plattsburgh and a loop up along the western shoreline literally to the Canadian border at Rouses Point, then cross the lake by bridge back onto the peninsula that leads south back onto North Hero and finally Grand Isle (a 60 mile loop!!!)... Now THAT would be cool... I may have to try that. ferry crossings are neat, but all things considered, that loop is fairly uninteresting - not to mention that it's totally open road. if it's a hot day with full sun, you'll bake! If you're gonna do 60 miles in VT, I can recommend some decidedly more rivvish rides not terribly far from the islands - just contact me off list. and in any event, enjoy your stay in Vermont! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
Anyone coming to Vt to ride should definitely go to the Local Motion web site and order the Lake Champlain Bikeways map. It covers pretty much everything west of the green mountains from the center of the state to the Canadian border, plus a lot of good rides in NY, which has much better shoulders and pavement than VT. I live in Westford, about 15 miles north east of Burlington and use the map to navigate around a lot of small dirt roads up here in the northern towns. These are good roads with great views but many of them are not on the state map. Many of Vt's roads and shoulders are in poor condition, which makes the trade off to dirt roads more appealing. Grand Isle and the lake shore roads between Vergennes and Middlebury are the only really flat part of the state, but they can be windy. As someone pointed out, if you want to ride on Grand Isle the best choices are East Shore Rd, which is dirt, and West Shore Rd. For some reason most cyclist will instead fight the winds and traffic on Rt 2. If you visit our capital, Montpelier, ( a great little town) there are lots of good roads nearby. I visit my daughter there weekly and often ride north on Rt 12, which has pretty good pavement, once you're out of town, a nice shoulder, low traffic midday, and nice views. Plus it's slowly up hill as you go north, so the trip home is pretty easy. On Jun 20, 8:39 am, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All - I live in Burlington, VT, and would like to start doing some overnight camping trips in VT. I am researching good spots to do the overnights, and figured I would ask on here as well. Have any of you done any in VT? A lot of what I am finding for state park camping is more like car- camping, (with a bunch of campsites clustered together/showers/ firewood/firepit, etc. - which is okay, but not really what I am looking for.) I would like to camp somewhere that I am by myself, maybe have a nice view, and have a chance to get away. I thought it would be worth asking on here, as some may have experience. Any help? Appreciate it in advance! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
On Jun 20, 8:58 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Once you're out on Grand Isle, there are several options... One of them is to take a nice ferry ride into Plattsburgh and a loop up along the western shoreline literally to the Canadian border at Rouses Point, then cross the lake by bridge back onto the peninsula that leads south back onto North Hero and finally Grand Isle (a 60 mile loop!!!)... Now THAT would be cool... I may have to try that. ferry crossings are neat, but all things considered, that loop is fairly uninteresting - not to mention that it's totally open road. if it's a hot day with full sun, you'll bake! If you're gonna do 60 miles in VT, I can recommend some decidedly more rivvish rides not terribly far from the islands - just contact me off list. and in any event, enjoy your stay in Vermont! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
Just got back from a little loop in Grand Isle today - The Shore Roads (East and West) are beautiful. On Jun 21, 9:34 am, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 20, 8:58 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Once you're out on Grand Isle, there are several options... One of them is to take a nice ferry ride into Plattsburgh and a loop up along the western shoreline literally to the Canadian border at Rouses Point, then cross the lake by bridge back onto the peninsula that leads south back onto North Hero and finally Grand Isle (a 60 mile loop!!!)... Now THAT would be cool... I may have to try that. ferry crossings are neat, but all things considered, that loop is fairly uninteresting - not to mention that it's totally open road. if it's a hot day with full sun, you'll bake! If you're gonna do 60 miles in VT, I can recommend some decidedly more rivvish rides not terribly far from the islands - just contact me off list. and in any event, enjoy your stay in Vermont! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
Also thank you to everyone for the suggestions, I totally appreciate it. Particularly Patrick in VT! Good stuff. On Jun 21, 4:28 pm, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Just got back from a little loop in Grand Isle today - The Shore Roads (East and West) are beautiful. On Jun 21, 9:34 am, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 20, 8:58 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Once you're out on Grand Isle, there are several options... One of them is to take a nice ferry ride into Plattsburgh and a loop up along the western shoreline literally to the Canadian border at Rouses Point, then cross the lake by bridge back onto the peninsula that leads south back onto North Hero and finally Grand Isle (a 60 mile loop!!!)... Now THAT would be cool... I may have to try that. ferry crossings are neat, but all things considered, that loop is fairly uninteresting - not to mention that it's totally open road. if it's a hot day with full sun, you'll bake! If you're gonna do 60 miles in VT, I can recommend some decidedly more rivvish rides not terribly far from the islands - just contact me off list. and in any event, enjoy your stay in Vermont! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
Patrick, Vermont is a beautiful state for summer cycling. I used to know a guy who taught school here in Tucson, who returned every summer to lead bike tours with the Vermont Bike Tours group. He called Vermont (in the summer) God's Green Country. We obviously don't have much of that type of country here in Tucson either! It's a cool 104 degrees here in Tucson this afternoon (I did ride this morning though!). Jim On Jun 20, 7:42 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I've got nearby areas where I could stealth camp, but they are all sandy (even under the bosque trees the soil is old river silt) and there are coyotes hanging around -- fine to ride through but not so fun, I imagine, for camping. No fires either, since it is fire season here. I wish there were grassy, green areas available. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Also, if you don't live in Vermont, how do you go about choosing places to go on your S24O's? I know that part of the beauty of the S24O is the spontaneity - but would love some guidance on how you got started. On Jun 20, 8:39 am, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All - I live in Burlington, VT, and would like to start doing some overnight camping trips in VT. I am researching good spots to do the overnights, and figured I would ask on here as well. Have any of you done any in VT? A lot of what I am finding for state park camping is more like car- camping, (with a bunch of campsites clustered together/showers/ firewood/firepit, etc. - which is okay, but not really what I am looking for.) I would like to camp somewhere that I am by myself, maybe have a nice view, and have a chance to get away. I thought it would be worth asking on here, as some may have experience. Any help? Appreciate it in advance! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
Also, if you don't live in Vermont, how do you go about choosing places to go on your S24O's? I know that part of the beauty of the S24O is the spontaneity - but would love some guidance on how you got started. On Jun 20, 8:39 am, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All - I live in Burlington, VT, and would like to start doing some overnight camping trips in VT. I am researching good spots to do the overnights, and figured I would ask on here as well. Have any of you done any in VT? A lot of what I am finding for state park camping is more like car- camping, (with a bunch of campsites clustered together/showers/ firewood/firepit, etc. - which is okay, but not really what I am looking for.) I would like to camp somewhere that I am by myself, maybe have a nice view, and have a chance to get away. I thought it would be worth asking on here, as some may have experience. Any help? Appreciate it in advance! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
I rode through VT last year- what a beautiful state. There are lots of places to camp, not all of them 'designated'.Usually I just ride until it is about an hour before dark, then start thinking about a spot for camping.If you are on less-traveled roads or in national forest areas, you'll find something.Just don't leave too many beer cans and cigarette butts behind and you're good to go.* Best of luck and have fun! -Matt *clue for the humorless: kidding. thanks On Jun 20, 8:39 am, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All - I live in Burlington, VT, and would like to start doing some overnight camping trips in VT. I am researching good spots to do the overnights, and figured I would ask on here as well. Have any of you done any in VT? A lot of what I am finding for state park camping is more like car- camping, (with a bunch of campsites clustered together/showers/ firewood/firepit, etc. - which is okay, but not really what I am looking for.) I would like to camp somewhere that I am by myself, maybe have a nice view, and have a chance to get away. I thought it would be worth asking on here, as some may have experience. Any help? Appreciate it in advance! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
I've got nearby areas where I could stealth camp, but they are all sandy (even under the bosque trees the soil is old river silt) and there are coyotes hanging around -- fine to ride through but not so fun, I imagine, for camping. No fires either, since it is fire season here. I wish there were grassy, green areas available. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Also, if you don't live in Vermont, how do you go about choosing places to go on your S24O's? I know that part of the beauty of the S24O is the spontaneity - but would love some guidance on how you got started. On Jun 20, 8:39 am, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All - I live in Burlington, VT, and would like to start doing some overnight camping trips in VT. I am researching good spots to do the overnights, and figured I would ask on here as well. Have any of you done any in VT? A lot of what I am finding for state park camping is more like car- camping, (with a bunch of campsites clustered together/showers/ firewood/firepit, etc. - which is okay, but not really what I am looking for.) I would like to camp somewhere that I am by myself, maybe have a nice view, and have a chance to get away. I thought it would be worth asking on here, as some may have experience. Any help? Appreciate it in advance! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
My brother lives in Burlington-- might get my vote for the coolest city in the US. I have done a fair amount riding up there. You can camp in any of the National Forests-- pick a spot and go for it. You are supposed to be a 1/2 mile for the road (i think), but i usually go far enough so that i cant see/ hear cars and figure that is good. Other places are always a gamble-- is it private property, whose land is it, etc. Under bridges can be good if they are flat not exactly a good way to enjoy nature. At big farms i have friends who stop and ask if they can sleep in their field-- most have no problem with it. The other thing that i have done is sleep behind fire stations, behind churches, and down by the river. In my experience you are much better out of sight in the woods than in the open. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
On Jun 20, 11:03 am, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: My brother lives in Burlington-- might get my vote for the coolest city in the US. that's quite a compliment. and I agree! as long as you don't mind 5 months of winter. Zack - like the above posters recommended, just pick a place where you'd like to spend some time - whether it's the mountains, islands, lakes - and go for it. I think a trip up to Lake Carmi would make for a great S240 - lots of cool back roads to get up there. A little closer would be Cambridge State Forest. Little River State Park near Waterbury is another good option. How about Hinesburg Town Forest - pitch a tent and go climb Texas Hill, Lincoln Hill, Pond Rd/Wes White and refuel at On the Rise in Richmond before the sun goes down. Or Lake Iroquois? Mt. Mansfield State Forest? Camel's Hump State Park. It's kind of limitless around here, just depends on how far you want to ride. Also, don't forget about the ADKs - it's so easy to jump on the Charlotte ferry and pitch a tent in NY somewhere along the lake or in the mountains. Have fun!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
I am planning a 6 day ride around VT this August. Starting in Meredith NH, mostly following the ACA Green Mtn Loop counter clockwise as far a Queeche where I am scheduled to meet up with family. Contact me off list if you're interested. Jay On Jun 20, 6:54 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 20, 11:03 am, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: My brother lives in Burlington-- might get my vote for the coolest city in the US. that's quite a compliment. and I agree! as long as you don't mind 5 months of winter. Zack - like the above posters recommended, just pick a place where you'd like to spend some time - whether it's the mountains, islands, lakes - and go for it. I think a trip up to Lake Carmi would make for a great S240 - lots of cool back roads to get up there. A little closer would be Cambridge State Forest. Little River State Park near Waterbury is another good option. How about Hinesburg Town Forest - pitch a tent and go climb Texas Hill, Lincoln Hill, Pond Rd/Wes White and refuel at On the Rise in Richmond before the sun goes down. Or Lake Iroquois? Mt. Mansfield State Forest? Camel's Hump State Park. It's kind of limitless around here, just depends on how far you want to ride. Also, don't forget about the ADKs - it's so easy to jump on the Charlotte ferry and pitch a tent in NY somewhere along the lake or in the mountains. Have fun!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
Hi Zack, Here's a link about officially sactioned primitive camping in Vermont: http://www.vtstateparks.com/htm/primitive.htm If you're interested crossing the Green Mountains, the Northeast Kingdom Travel and Tourist Assn. offers a network of recommended bike routes and loops all over that part of the state: http://www.travelthekingdom.com/biking.php Have a great time! Do take care if you go soon, I'm sure you're aware that in roads in some areas are in rough shape due to the recent heavy rains and flooding. Lisa On Jun 20, 8:39 am, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All - I live in Burlington, VT, and would like to start doing some overnight camping trips in VT. I am researching good spots to do the overnights, and figured I would ask on here as well. Have any of you done any in VT? A lot of what I am finding for state park camping is more like car- camping, (with a bunch of campsites clustered together/showers/ firewood/firepit, etc. - which is okay, but not really what I am looking for.) I would like to camp somewhere that I am by myself, maybe have a nice view, and have a chance to get away. I thought it would be worth asking on here, as some may have experience. Any help? Appreciate it in advance! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
Cool stuff!!! My brother lives on Grand Isle (Lake Champlain)... I'm headed up for a family get-together for the 4th of July with my Bombadil and a custom Fargo that I just built for him. He's got a beautiful house high above the lake overlooking the water, but I plan to camp under the stars on his back lawn. He lives next to Grand Isle State Park, which I camped at many years ago during a bike trip around Lake Champlain... nice campground. We plan to circumscribe the island (about 30 miles)... I'm really looking forward to it. Grand Isle is a nice ride. There is the bike/rail trail that runs between Grand Isle and Burlington, except for a break in the trail at a narrow channel crossing where boats can leave the inlet for the open lake. Normally there is a bike ferry operated by local bike advocacy group Local Motion, but due to the high water this year, Local Motion indicated that the causeway and ferry service may be closed for much of the season while repairs are being made. There IS the normal (old) bike route along Highway 2, and this still gets you out to Grand Isle and back. Once you're out on Grand Isle, there are several options... One of them is to take a nice ferry ride into Plattsburgh and a loop up along the western shoreline literally to the Canadian border at Rouses Point, then cross the lake by bridge back onto the peninsula that leads south back onto North Hero and finally Grand Isle (a 60 mile loop!!!)... Now THAT would be cool... I may have to try that. Peace, BB On Jun 20, 5:54 pm, Lisa ukulele.l...@mac.com wrote: Hi Zack, Here's a link about officially sactioned primitive camping in Vermont: http://www.vtstateparks.com/htm/primitive.htm If you're interested crossing the Green Mountains, the Northeast Kingdom Travel and Tourist Assn. offers a network of recommended bike routes and loops all over that part of the state: http://www.travelthekingdom.com/biking.php Have a great time! Do take care if you go soon, I'm sure you're aware that in roads in some areas are in rough shape due to the recent heavy rains and flooding. Lisa On Jun 20, 8:39 am, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All - I live in Burlington, VT, and would like to start doing some overnight camping trips in VT. I am researching good spots to do the overnights, and figured I would ask on here as well. Have any of you done any in VT? A lot of what I am finding for state park camping is more like car- camping, (with a bunch of campsites clustered together/showers/ firewood/firepit, etc. - which is okay, but not really what I am looking for.) I would like to camp somewhere that I am by myself, maybe have a nice view, and have a chance to get away. I thought it would be worth asking on here, as some may have experience. Any help? Appreciate it in advance! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
