Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-19 Thread Robert Tilley
...@gmail.comSent: October 19, 2020 11:13 AMTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas? My two nominations would be: 1. For a while they were selling a wind "shield" that was essentially a vest without any

[RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-19 Thread Luke
Not a Riv Product but a Riv Reader recommendation: Vitruvian Running Shoes I bought these shoes for a number of years based on Grant's recommendation. Giant cushioned wedges of running shoes that got questions wherever I went - sadly discontinued in 2010 due to poor sales. Luke Vermeulen

[RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-19 Thread Jeremy Till
My two nominations would be: 1. For a while they were selling a wind "shield" that was essentially a vest without any back, just weights (IIRC) that hung over the top of your shoulders. The idea was that the wind would do most of the work holding it in place. Seems like it was designed around

[RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-18 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Half Mitts may be weird but they really work. I bought a pair of Half mitts (with thumb) from a list member. Use then in cooler weather and winter, and they work GREAT. Hands stay nice and warm and are easier than regular gloves to take off.. I think the wind blocking goes a long way to

Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-17 Thread John A. Bennett
*Saluki: 2005.* Mark built mine first to work out the assembly details. It was the largest size we made (62cm). Still ride it daily. When it became apparent that the design would work for larger frames, the A. Homer Hilsen came along in sizes larger than 62cm with 700c wheels. It didn't

Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Joel Stern
Sorry, I meant Matt. Where in CT are you? I am in western MA. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 6:48 PM Joel Stern wrote: > Mike, I think the Saluki was 2003. There is an article posted above that > details 650b bikes here... > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 5:28 PM Matthew Cook > wrote: > >> So if it was

Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Joel Stern
Mike, I think the Saluki was 2003. There is an article posted above that details 650b bikes here... On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 5:28 PM Matthew Cook wrote: > So if it was released in 2006, then it must have been conceptualized at > least one or two years prior. So wacky 650b idea evolved around

Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Joel S
Great article, thanks Benjamin. On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 5:49:11 PM UTC-4 Benjamin Kelley wrote: > Interesting article about the history of 650b. > https://www.handbuiltbicyclenews.com/c36-bicycle-wheels/196-the-renaissance-of-the-650b-wheel-0 > Has info from Grant about tires, and a

Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
Misuboshi and Michelin World Tour tires I feel pre-date the recent 650b craze. i wonder who made the tires for the Raleigh Passage in the 80's mike goldmanrhode island Sponsored by

Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks for posting that; I didn't know that Ritchy had tried 650B so long ago. Cleland are wild; like nothing else on earth -- a wholly separate evolutionary thread, like Australian marsupials. Patrick Moore, who *likes* the way little, short 26" wheels with skinny tires handle (24.75" with

Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Benjamin L. Kelley
Interesting article about the history of 650b. https://www.handbuiltbicyclenews.com/c36-bicycle-wheels/196-the-renaissance-of-the-650b-wheel-0 Has info from Grant about tires, and a picture from RR 33 in Fall 2004. About 1/2 way through the article. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 4:28 PM Matthew Cook

Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Patrick Moore
I recall reading a book perhaps 25 years ago about a couple of British brothers who, some 35-40 years ago, bought a couple of custom steel touring bikes to take on a huge, lengthy tour of Asia; at least the subcontinent, and Afghanistan too, I think. Anyway, their bikes were built by a well-known

Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Matthew Cook
So if it was released in 2006, then it must have been conceptualized at least one or two years prior. So wacky 650b idea evolved around 2004 or 2005? It makes sense they had to also release some tires as well. I didn't ride a bike as an adult until 2009, so what 650b tires existed back then? On

Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Joel S
650b Saluki, sorry for the typo, On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 4:53:50 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote: > Matt, I believe they were released in 2006 just after the 659b Saluki. > The only tire size I ride now. I remember when iBob list members were > doing concessions. I bought a Saluki and

Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Joel S
Matt, I believe they were released in 2006 just after the 659b Saluki. The only tire size I ride now. I remember when iBob list members were doing concessions. I bought a Saluki and Bleriot, still have the Bleriot. On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 2:50:35 PM UTC-4 Matt C. wrote: > I would

Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Joe Bernard
Nope, there were very few 650b tires and Grant looked bonkers to even being trying this. Boy did THAT one work out! Another amusing Riv thing from the clothing side, suspenders! I still have a pair  On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 11:50:35 AM UTC-7 Matt C. wrote: > I would say releasing a

Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Matthew Cook
I would say releasing a production 650b bike 11 years ago was pretty adventurous. I have a 2009 Bleriot and as I think about it, If I knew it existed, I would have been less likely to buy it when it was being sold. I dont think there were even too many 650b tires available then. Matt Cook in CT

[RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Patrick Cronin
Custom design and fabrication of a friction shifter in 2020. Custom design and fabrication of cantilever brakes in 2020. On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 7:43:36 PM UTC-4 J L wrote: > Remember Foss tubes? I like that Riv has always tried to be out of the > box. Stick shifting? > > What are some

[RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Paul M
The model name "Hunqapillar" that was inspired from a very large mailbox some place in the mid-west on Grant's ride across the country. But turns out to be my favorite name and Rivendell model. Stick shifting is the only way to go if your frame doesn't have a left side cable stop and your

[RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread RichS
How about wooden neckties from a few years back? Best, Rich in ATL On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 10:35:26 AM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote: > Splats and Half Mitts have to be up there. > Half mitts with the thumb I find are actually pretty useful things to have > around, take up little space and weigh

[RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Edwin W
Splats and Half Mitts have to be up there. Half mitts with the thumb I find are actually pretty useful things to have around, take up little space and weigh very little. Never got the splats, but I see their (dorky) practicality! Edwin On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 6:43:36 PM UTC-5 J L

[RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-16 Thread Ben Mihovk
*Consider the how they're the only ones (I know of) doing the long chainstay thing. * I'm just a few weeks into riding my new Atlantis, and I have to say...I don't think I want a bike with traditional chainstays ever again. As a tall guy who feels pretty elevated when I'm on a bike, I

[RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-15 Thread Jim M.
I still have a Foss tube in one of my wheels. Damn thing won't wear out. Jeff Jones, another iconoclast like Grant, is doing long wheelbases too. jim walnut creek On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 8:34:41 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote: > Consider the how they're the only ones (I know of) doing the long

[RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-15 Thread dougP
Consider the how they're the only ones (I know of) doing the long chainstay thing. IIRC, this started out as the "tentacular chainstays" a few years back. Something like "if I can get a dozen people to commit to buying a new idea, sight unseen & no details, I'll build something I've been

[RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

2020-10-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Foss tubes were* so *strange. I don't remember how it worked now but there'was a specific way they needed to be inserted in the tire, and they had a dedicated (and pricey) patch. My favorite wacky idea was a wheel size between 584(650b) and 622(700c), I believe it was 603. Grant cut a tire,