Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
Being a contrarian, I will not carry my watch on a bike ride. I do have a bike computer though . Now we should address helmets and chain lube. -JimD On May 4, 2013, at 9:11 AM, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a wristwatch so I know when to be where I am going.smart phones, Garmin's, cycle computers all very creepy to me. I know I can average 10-20 mph depending on the route/conditions with 12 mph being about average even when out of shape,tired or sick. Its easy to figure how long it will take me to get somewhere. On Friday, May 3, 2013 9:50:44 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: My iPhone is my external brain (like a wheelchair for a paraplegic), so that's why I keep it with me. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, May 3, 2013 9:45:01 AM UTC-6, Eric Peterson wrote: The gadgets I use are important to me for two reasons: to collect information, and as navigational aids. I don't have much problem with them controlling me. If you want to be somewhere, or know where you are so you can determine when you will be somewhere, a cyclometer and basic GPS are pretty useful. I ride a lot of brevets, and also plan and ride a lot of local rides, so these tools are invaluable for those purposes. If you always ride the same routes then after a while you know the way, but I am always wanting to try new ones. However I do not have a smartphone, nor even a cell phone. It's baffling to me why everyone these days seems to think you need one. Eric Peterson Naperville, IL On Thursday, May 2, 2013 6:23:24 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your experiences. Here are mine… I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort. The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense. I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No computer, for me, makes it much easier to Just Ride. With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
+1 mostly. I have one of those widgets that does all this 'normal' stuff and records altitude, I'm fond of that. -JimD On May 2, 2013, at 9:30 PM, hangtownmatt hangtownm...@yahoo.com wrote: Personally, I like my computer. Primarily, I like the odometer. I like to know how many miles I get out of a set of tires, a chain, and various other consumables/components. I like to know how many miles I rode his year, last year, and how many miles I have on my Sam Hillborne. I also keep a log. My log dates back to 1994.At 55, I'm not controlled by a speedometer. I really don't pay attention to it that much, but when I do, it helps keep things in perspective. And that might just be what I like most about it ... it keeps me from becoming a legend in my own mind. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
Never had a cycle computer. No plans to get one. I bring my smart phone with me on rides where the map function will be helpful. The few times I've wondered how far I rode, I was able to come up with reasonably close figures afterwards with online map programs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
I like my Garmin 810. Have had previous models and others as far back as I started riding. Like the gadgets too much, even though I don't really do anything formally with the data since I hate having to manually edit it. I primarily use it for monitoring my Heart rate and cadence, which are the meaningful ones for me. Speed and distance become anecdotal. I like seeing the temperature and the grade as well. Have used its navigation features to ride to places I don't know how to get to, but not that often. Still a geek with gadgets, I guess... René — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Never had a cycle computer. No plans to get one. I bring my smart phone with me on rides where the map function will be helpful. The few times I've wondered how far I rode, I was able to come up with reasonably close figures afterwards with online map programs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Riding without a computer
The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your experiences. Here are mine… I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort. The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense. I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No computer, for me, makes it much easier to Just Ride. With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
I gave up my computers, but I like to track my miles, so I use Cyclemeter on my iPhone. That said, the best way to learn to pace yourself according to terrain and conditions internal and external is to ride fixed gears exclusively for several years in a windy, rolling environment. It really did take me several years to adapt my attitude, but now it's second nature. Last night I rode 11 miles in a 70 gear that included 1 mile of steep climbing and 3 miles of gradual climbing against a strong headwind. I just pedaled slowly. The habit continues with gears; this evening, tired, I had a similar return on the sluggish Fargo. I just geared down and was surprised at how fresh I felt. Frankly, one of the great joys of riding fixed, for me, is precisely this habit of pacing yourself and adapting to the conditions, rather than trying to adapt the conditions by gearing. Of course, YMMV. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your experiences. Here are mine… I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort. The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense. I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No computer, for me, makes it much easier to Just Ride. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
I've just switched from strava/cyclemete on iphone to a Garmin 305 and 800 (won one, the other a gift). 1 computer for all bikes, incl HR, altitude, and power if I want (I do). Pretty neat, and long batt life. Best Regards, R Zeidler Prime Mover On May 2, 2013, at 9:36 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I gave up my computers, but I like to track my miles, so I use Cyclemeter on my iPhone. That said, the best way to learn to pace yourself according to terrain and conditions internal and external is to ride fixed gears exclusively for several years in a windy, rolling environment. It really did take me several years to adapt my attitude, but now it's second nature. Last night I rode 11 miles in a 70 gear that included 1 mile of steep climbing and 3 miles of gradual climbing against a strong headwind. I just pedaled slowly. The habit continues with gears; this evening, tired, I had a similar return on the sluggish Fargo. I just geared down and was surprised at how fresh I felt. Frankly, one of the great joys of riding fixed, for me, is precisely this habit of pacing yourself and adapting to the conditions, rather than trying to adapt the conditions by gearing. Of course, YMMV. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your experiences. Here are mine… I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort. The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense. I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No computer, for me, makes it much easier to Just Ride. With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
I think I'm going to turn one of my bikes into a fixie. My singlespeed folder has transformed my thoughts on shifting, and now I don't do much of it on my geared bikes. I honestly had no idea it was so easy to climb things without downshifting constantly. On Thursday, May 2, 2013 6:36:07 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I gave up my computers, but I like to track my miles, so I use Cyclemeter on my iPhone. That said, the best way to learn to pace yourself according to terrain and conditions internal and external is to ride fixed gears exclusively for several years in a windy, rolling environment. It really did take me several years to adapt my attitude, but now it's second nature. Last night I rode 11 miles in a 70 gear that included 1 mile of steep climbing and 3 miles of gradual climbing against a strong headwind. I just pedaled slowly. The habit continues with gears; this evening, tired, I had a similar return on the sluggish Fargo. I just geared down and was surprised at how fresh I felt. Frankly, one of the great joys of riding fixed, for me, is precisely this habit of pacing yourself and adapting to the conditions, rather than trying to adapt the conditions by gearing. Of course, YMMV. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your experiences. Here are mine… I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort. The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense. I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No computer, for me, makes it much easier to Just Ride. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
Great point, Patrick. Thanks to input from this group and Grant, I've done much the same thing, though without riding a fixie. I was amazed on our recent trip by how easy it was to ride up the rollers without shifting. Of course, where I live, there aren't hills you can see the top of. That makes a big difference. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, May 2, 2013 7:36:07 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: I gave up my computers, but I like to track my miles, so I use Cyclemeter on my iPhone. That said, the best way to learn to pace yourself according to terrain and conditions internal and external is to ride fixed gears exclusively for several years in a windy, rolling environment. It really did take me several years to adapt my attitude, but now it's second nature. Last night I rode 11 miles in a 70 gear that included 1 mile of steep climbing and 3 miles of gradual climbing against a strong headwind. I just pedaled slowly. The habit continues with gears; this evening, tired, I had a similar return on the sluggish Fargo. I just geared down and was surprised at how fresh I felt. Frankly, one of the great joys of riding fixed, for me, is precisely this habit of pacing yourself and adapting to the conditions, rather than trying to adapt the conditions by gearing. Of course, YMMV. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your experiences. Here are mine… I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort. The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense. I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No computer, for me, makes it much easier to Just Ride. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
To save your knees, learn to stand for extended periods! My 58 year old knees are still working, thank God. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I think I'm going to turn one of my bikes into a fixie. My singlespeed folder has transformed my thoughts on shifting, and now I don't do much of it on my geared bikes. I honestly had no idea it was so easy to climb things without downshifting constantly. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
all I ride with is a printout of a Sheldon gear chart, but my daughter has a Cateye Strada Cadence, and my buddy has the Garmin GPS heart-rate, etc. I shift mostly on my half-steps up front. But I agree, riding to the computer is like answering the cell phone at the river. On Thursday, May 2, 2013 8:54:09 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: To save your knees, learn to stand for extended periods! My 58 year old knees are still working, thank God. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I think I'm going to turn one of my bikes into a fixie. My singlespeed folder has transformed my thoughts on shifting, and now I don't do much of it on my geared bikes. I honestly had no idea it was so easy to climb things without downshifting constantly. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
When I got my AHH last year I decided to order it as recommended by the chef, Keven was the chef in my case. As such it was my first bike without computer and with flat pedals, a basket, friction shifting and cloth tape. The lack of a computer may have reduced my fitness because I am much less likely to push really hard to go fast but I enjoy riding more without a computer than with one, I have removed the computers from all of my other bikes. I love the basket, every bike should have one. Friction shifting is fine. I dig the cloth tape. I still prefer being clipped-in, especially in the rain and snow, but I still ride my Riv with flat pedals. -Jimmy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
