Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Hi Anne, I'm coming to this discussion rather late, but your most recent query leads me to ask if you've looked at the rig set-ups on bikepacking.net? One specific rig might be yamric's fargo 2 configuration. There are multiple photos and a list of whatall is in each bag. Thanks to all who've shared thoughts on this thread; very interesting! Cheers! lyle On Saturday, 2 November 2013, Anne Paulson wrote: Can someone who uses the full bikepacking setup tell me how much it holds? Assuming that the frame bag holds the food, I'm having trouble understanding how a tent (let's say the Hubba), a sleeping bag, a pad and some rainclothes and other extra clothes, plus phone and tools and things like that, can fit in a handlebar roll and a Viscacha saddlebag. And that's not even considering even the most minimal stove. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Dan Abelson d...@abelsons.netjavascript:; wrote: I have a relevate tangle bag and a revelate mountain feed bag. I like them both a lot. They are well made, well thought out and work great. Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comjavascript:; wrote: s24o in a snow cave Done that a few times for fun... also sleep outside w/o sleeping bag on a firebed in the mid 30's. . Life is too boring too just sleep in a tent! I have one of his seatbags, very well engineered and well made. I need to get a frame bag next. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Thanks, Lyle, that's just what I was looking for. And thanks, Clayton, for also recommending the link. On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Lyle Bogart lylebog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anne, I'm coming to this discussion rather late, but your most recent query leads me to ask if you've looked at the rig set-ups on bikepacking.net? One specific rig might be yamric's fargo 2 configuration. There are multiple photos and a list of whatall is in each bag. Thanks to all who've shared thoughts on this thread; very interesting! Cheers! lyle On Saturday, 2 November 2013, Anne Paulson wrote: Can someone who uses the full bikepacking setup tell me how much it holds? Assuming that the frame bag holds the food, I'm having trouble understanding how a tent (let's say the Hubba), a sleeping bag, a pad and some rainclothes and other extra clothes, plus phone and tools and things like that, can fit in a handlebar roll and a Viscacha saddlebag. And that's not even considering even the most minimal stove. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Dan Abelson d...@abelsons.net wrote: I have a relevate tangle bag and a revelate mountain feed bag. I like them both a lot. They are well made, well thought out and work great. Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: s24o in a snow cave Done that a few times for fun... also sleep outside w/o sleeping bag on a firebed in the mid 30's. . Life is too boring too just sleep in a tent! I have one of his seatbags, very well engineered and well made. I need to get a frame bag next. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Revelate and Rivendell are two ENTIRELY different schools of thought, each having their own merits. I own three Revelate bags and sold a fourth (frame bag): Viscacha (awful name), Gas Tank and Mountain feed bag. All three get swapped back and forth between my mountain bike, fat (snow) bike and gravel bike (Fargo), non of which have a rack. Pros: lightweight; needs no rack; fast and easy to swap between bikes; affordable. Cons: Viscacha is kinda ugly, if that matters. I also own a Hilsen (for sale!) with Rivendell's medium saddlesack. Like the Viscacha, the medium saddlesack swallows everything that I throw into it with room for more. Big Riv saddlesacks weigh considerably more and require a rack if you can't stand the constant thigh rubbing like me. They are beautiful though and that can trump other factors for most. Pros: classic beauty; highest durability (?); best resale value. Cons: Expensive; magnet for astute thieves; can't be placed on and off quickly for frequent store visits, if that matters. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
I see some people use a Revelate front sling, and a more traditional saddlebag. Like this guy: http://www.bikepacking.net/individual_setups/niknaks-niner-emd-on-the-gdmbr/ So Revelate and Carradice can co-exist on the same bike. On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Sean Cleary 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote: Revelate and Rivendell are two ENTIRELY different schools of thought, each having their own merits. I own three Revelate bags and sold a fourth (frame bag): Viscacha (awful name), Gas Tank and Mountain feed bag. All three get swapped back and forth between my mountain bike, fat (snow) bike and gravel bike (Fargo), non of which have a rack. Pros: lightweight; needs no rack; fast and easy to swap between bikes; affordable. Cons: Viscacha is kinda ugly, if that matters. I also own a Hilsen (for sale!) with Rivendell's medium saddlesack. Like the Viscacha, the medium saddlesack swallows everything that I throw into it with room for more. Big Riv saddlesacks weigh considerably more and require a rack if you can't stand the constant thigh rubbing like me. They are beautiful though and that can trump other factors for most. Pros: classic beauty; highest durability (?); best resale value. Cons: Expensive; magnet for astute thieves; can't be placed on and off quickly for frequent store visits, if that matters. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
One advantage is that they clear rear tires better than transverse bags. Even the Junior drags on the rear tire of my size M Fargo -- mostly solved by a cardboard stiffener -- while a wedge of similar size would clear the tire better. And, as others have said, no rack and certainly no loops required. That said, if Carradice bags were better known and positioned in the marketplace differently, they would probably be popular as light off road touring baggage. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Patrick Moore, have been wondering where you've been...glad to see your here. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: One advantage is that they clear rear tires better than transverse bags. Even the Junior drags on the rear tire of my size M Fargo -- mostly solved by a cardboard stiffener -- while a wedge of similar size would clear the tire better. And, as others have said, no rack and certainly no loops required. That said, if Carradice bags were better known and positioned in the marketplace differently, they would probably be popular as light off road touring baggage. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
I haven't gone away (much to y'all's chagrin); have been simultaneously sick and busy (and irritable and morose). Better today. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick Moore, have been wondering where you've been...glad to see your here. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: One advantage is that they clear rear tires better than transverse bags. Even the Junior drags on the rear tire of my size M Fargo -- mostly solved by a cardboard stiffener -- while a wedge of similar size would clear the tire better. And, as others have said, no rack and certainly no loops required. That said, if Carradice bags were better known and positioned in the marketplace differently, they would probably be popular as light off road touring baggage. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
hang in there, bro, you have friends here On Friday, November 1, 2013 11:37:43 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: I haven't gone away (much to y'all's chagrin); have been simultaneously sick and busy (and irritable and morose). Better today. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Patrick Moore, have been wondering where you've been...glad to see your here. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: One advantage is that they clear rear tires better than transverse bags. Even the Junior drags on the rear tire of my size M Fargo -- mostly solved by a cardboard stiffener -- while a wedge of similar size would clear the tire better. And, as others have said, no rack and certainly no loops required. That said, if Carradice bags were better known and positioned in the marketplace differently, they would probably be popular as light off road touring baggage. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Thanks, all. As usual, I was exaggerating -- things are not too bad. Back to regular programming. PAM, blushing furiously (not to say morosely) in ABQ, NM On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: hang in there, bro, you have friends here On Friday, November 1, 2013 11:37:43 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: I haven't gone away (much to y'all's chagrin); have been simultaneously sick and busy (and irritable and morose). Better today. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick Moore, have been wondering where you've been...glad to see your here. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com wrote: One advantage is that they clear rear tires better than transverse bags. Even the Junior drags on the rear tire of my size M Fargo -- mostly solved by a cardboard stiffener -- while a wedge of similar size would clear the tire better. And, as others have said, no rack and certainly no loops required. That said, if Carradice bags were better known and positioned in the marketplace differently, they would probably be popular as light off road touring baggage. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.**com/index.cfm/store.catalog/** Seat-Bags/Viscachahttps://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/**patrickmooreresumespec/http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/** topic/rbw-owners-bunch/**xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribehttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/**patrickmooreresumespec/http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
+1 what Ron MC said. Hope you feel better real soon. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't gone away (much to y'all's chagrin); have been simultaneously sick and busy (and irritable and morose). Better today. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick Moore, have been wondering where you've been...glad to see your here. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: One advantage is that they clear rear tires better than transverse bags. Even the Junior drags on the rear tire of my size M Fargo -- mostly solved by a cardboard stiffener -- while a wedge of similar size would clear the tire better. And, as others have said, no rack and certainly no loops required. That said, if Carradice bags were better known and positioned in the marketplace differently, they would probably be popular as light off road touring baggage. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
The list wouldn't be the same without you Patrick, take that for what it is, haha. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: +1 what Ron MC said. Hope you feel better real soon. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't gone away (much to y'all's chagrin); have been simultaneously sick and busy (and irritable and morose). Better today. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick Moore, have been wondering where you've been...glad to see your here. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: One advantage is that they clear rear tires better than transverse bags. Even the Junior drags on the rear tire of my size M Fargo -- mostly solved by a cardboard stiffener -- while a wedge of similar size would clear the tire better. And, as others have said, no rack and certainly no loops required. That said, if Carradice bags were better known and positioned in the marketplace differently, they would probably be popular as light off road touring baggage. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Mountain bikes are fun. Take a look at some of SOMA's offerings. They're one of the least expensive brands that use frame size specific tubing in their builds. I really like my Juice (set up as a singlespeed) and almost bought a B-line. The Revelate bags are designed to be minimalist and fit mountain bikes that don't really have any allowance for touring gear. (no braze ons, suspension complications, etc). They're also designed to be streamlined and out of the way when trail riding, utilizing the dead spaces of the frame (main triangle, under the bars, behind the saddle, etc) Steve. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
It's funny what counts as a big bag these days. Chris 10 lbs of apples Chen On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Hi Anne, I wouldn't call the Viscacha small. I think it's about the same as a Nelson Longflap main compartment. The biggest advantage is probably that the Viscacha doesn't need a rack for support. Other potential advantages are: lighter (by half, not counting the eliminated rack), doesn't stick out, load is compressed, doesn't require saddlebag loops. All things that probably matter a lot more for off-road racing than touring. Let us know what you come up with! Best, joe broach portland, or On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
