Re: [RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?

[saintruggler]

I don't presently own a Riv (gasp!) but since others have responded about 
non-Riv frames I'll presume I am still welcome to respond.

I recently swapped from a 46cm Nitto 177 (Noodle) on one bike, which I 
sold, to a 52cm Nitto M137 on my new touring bike. The M137 appears to be 
similar (or the same?) as the Crust x Shaka, but in a slightly narrower 
width. The 52cm measures out to around 47cm at the hoods, but to me it 
feels pretty darn similar to the width of my old Noodle. The difference is 
definitely in the backsweep (less) and flare (more) of the M137. 

Happy to share this non-scientific comparison!

-Eric

On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 2:53:27 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks re the Matthews. I'm glad Chauncey built me a couple of frames 
> before he quit the business. I hope to get a second wheelset for RH Fleecer 
> Ridge tires, ~60 mm on similar 27 mm IW rims.
>
> Just had a very nice road ride on another bike with Maes Parallels and as 
> always they felt good in the hooks, on the ramps, on the hoods.
>
> Does VO still make a Maes Parallel clone? They used to; I don't know how 
> wide they made them, though.
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 9:42 AM Josh Lubben  wrote:
>
>> Tim, the Nitto x Crust Shaka bar was one that had caught my attention. 
>> Wide but not overly wide. Not too much flare. Glad to hear you like it.
>>
>> Patrick, that is a lovely Matthews above. The Maes Parallels looks 
>> interesting, I wish it were offered in a slightly wider size than the 46cm. 
>>
>> The last drop bar I used consistently for a few years (on a Surly Cross 
>> Check) was a 50 cm Curve Walmer bar. This was after many roadie years on 44 
>> cm bars. I quite like the wider Walmer bar, but thought the flare of the 
>> drops was too much. I'm thinking toward something around 48-50 cm width 
>> would be nice.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 9:33:43 PM UTC-5 
>> ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote:
>>
>>> Tried several including Rene Hearse Randonner & found the bends in the 
>>> bar left little room for the hands. 
>>>
>>> Have Settled on the Nitto “noodle” that Riv sells Nitto number is 177.  
>>> I find the bends & drop just right and the Tops & ramps roomy.    
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  *On 
>>> Behalf Of *Josh Lubben
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 7, 2024 12:29 PM
>>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch 
>>> *Subject:* [RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hi All!
>>>
>>> I currently have an Albatross bar on my Homer, which I love. I also love 
>>> doing bar swaps from time to time on my bikes as it can make the bike feel 
>>> like a completely different bike. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I'm curious to hear what drop bars folks are running on whatever 
>>> Rivendell you happen to own? I've considered the Crust Towel Rack bar for 
>>> my Homer, so if you happen to be using one of those I'd love to hear your 
>>> thoughts on that bar/see any pictures you might have. But as the post title 
>>> suggests, I'd love to hear about any other drop bars y'all like to use. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Also, if you've switched from a swept back bar to a drop bar on your 
>>> Riv, what adjustments to stem length did you need to make? I know this can 
>>> be impacted by the bar of choice, but just wanting to get a sense of how 
>>> much of change you experience in stem length.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>>
>>> Josh 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks re the Matthews. I'm glad Chauncey built me a couple of frames
before he quit the business. I hope to get a second wheelset for RH Fleecer
Ridge tires, ~60 mm on similar 27 mm IW rims.

Just had a very nice road ride on another bike with Maes Parallels and as
always they felt good in the hooks, on the ramps, on the hoods.

Does VO still make a Maes Parallel clone? They used to; I don't know how
wide they made them, though.

On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 9:42 AM Josh Lubben  wrote:

> Tim, the Nitto x Crust Shaka bar was one that had caught my attention.
> Wide but not overly wide. Not too much flare. Glad to hear you like it.
>
> Patrick, that is a lovely Matthews above. The Maes Parallels looks
> interesting, I wish it were offered in a slightly wider size than the 46cm.
>
> The last drop bar I used consistently for a few years (on a Surly Cross
> Check) was a 50 cm Curve Walmer bar. This was after many roadie years on 44
> cm bars. I quite like the wider Walmer bar, but thought the flare of the
> drops was too much. I'm thinking toward something around 48-50 cm width
> would be nice.
>
> On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 9:33:43 PM UTC-5 ber...@bernardduhon.com
> wrote:
>
>> Tried several including Rene Hearse Randonner & found the bends in the
>> bar left little room for the hands.
>>
>> Have Settled on the Nitto “noodle” that Riv sells Nitto number is 177.  I
>> find the bends & drop just right and the Tops & ramps roomy.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  *On
>> Behalf Of *Josh Lubben
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 7, 2024 12:29 PM
>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch 
>> *Subject:* [RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All!
>>
>> I currently have an Albatross bar on my Homer, which I love. I also love
>> doing bar swaps from time to time on my bikes as it can make the bike feel
>> like a completely different bike.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm curious to hear what drop bars folks are running on whatever
>> Rivendell you happen to own? I've considered the Crust Towel Rack bar for
>> my Homer, so if you happen to be using one of those I'd love to hear your
>> thoughts on that bar/see any pictures you might have. But as the post title
>> suggests, I'd love to hear about any other drop bars y'all like to use.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, if you've switched from a swept back bar to a drop bar on your Riv,
>> what adjustments to stem length did you need to make? I know this can be
>> impacted by the bar of choice, but just wanting to get a sense of how much
>> of change you experience in stem length.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Josh
>>
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Re: [RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?

[Josh Lubben]

Tim, the Nitto x Crust Shaka bar was one that had caught my attention. Wide 
but not overly wide. Not too much flare. Glad to hear you like it.

Patrick, that is a lovely Matthews above. The Maes Parallels looks 
interesting, I wish it were offered in a slightly wider size than the 46cm. 

The last drop bar I used consistently for a few years (on a Surly Cross 
Check) was a 50 cm Curve Walmer bar. This was after many roadie years on 44 
cm bars. I quite like the wider Walmer bar, but thought the flare of the 
drops was too much. I'm thinking toward something around 48-50 cm width 
would be nice.

On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 9:33:43 PM UTC-5 ber...@bernardduhon.com 
wrote:

> Tried several including Rene Hearse Randonner & found the bends in the bar 
> left little room for the hands. 
>
> Have Settled on the Nitto “noodle” that Riv sells Nitto number is 177.  I 
> find the bends & drop just right and the Tops & ramps roomy.
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Josh Lubben
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 7, 2024 12:29 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch 
> *Subject:* [RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?
>
>  
>
> Hi All!
>
> I currently have an Albatross bar on my Homer, which I love. I also love 
> doing bar swaps from time to time on my bikes as it can make the bike feel 
> like a completely different bike. 
>
>  
>
> I'm curious to hear what drop bars folks are running on whatever Rivendell 
> you happen to own? I've considered the Crust Towel Rack bar for my Homer, 
> so if you happen to be using one of those I'd love to hear your thoughts on 
> that bar/see any pictures you might have. But as the post title suggests, 
> I'd love to hear about any other drop bars y'all like to use. 
>
>  
>
> Also, if you've switched from a swept back bar to a drop bar on your Riv, 
> what adjustments to stem length did you need to make? I know this can be 
> impacted by the bar of choice, but just wanting to get a sense of how much 
> of change you experience in stem length.
>
>  
>
> Thanks! 
>
> Josh 
>
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RE: [RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?

[Bernard Duhon]

Tried several including Rene Hearse Randonner & found the bends in the bar left 
little room for the hands.
Have Settled on the Nitto “noodle” that Riv sells Nitto number is 177.  I find 
the bends & drop just right and the Tops & ramps roomy.

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Josh Lubben
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 12:29 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?

Hi All!
I currently have an Albatross bar on my Homer, which I love. I also love doing 
bar swaps from time to time on my bikes as it can make the bike feel like a 
completely different bike.

I'm curious to hear what drop bars folks are running on whatever Rivendell you 
happen to own? I've considered the Crust Towel Rack bar for my Homer, so if you 
happen to be using one of those I'd love to hear your thoughts on that bar/see 
any pictures you might have. But as the post title suggests, I'd love to hear 
about any other drop bars y'all like to use.

Also, if you've switched from a swept back bar to a drop bar on your Riv, what 
adjustments to stem length did you need to make? I know this can be impacted by 
the bar of choice, but just wanting to get a sense of how much of change you 
experience in stem length.

Thanks!
Josh
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Re: [RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?

[Patrick Moore]

Oh, after the Maes Parallel, the Noodle and the Nitto B135 rando bars were
next in comfort.

I used to use Nitto 185s 3" below saddle. I switched to longer reach bars
-- Noodle, B 135, Maes Parallel and VO clone -- 3 *centimeters* below
saddle. I kept the same 8 cm stems; the reach is about the same and the
comfort is much greater with the latter arrangement.

With Moustache bars I tried closer in and high but (on my road bikes) found
it "tippy" and awkward, so always used M-bars with the same 8 cm stem more
or less the same 3 cm below saddle. But even this hurt my palms as did all
other non-drop bars. The best non-drop bar was the shorter model of the
MAP/Ahearne with 4" cut off each end and cut-down Ergon grips. But even
with this on the Monocog 29er I switched to a drop bar.

On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 4:00 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I've tried several varieties of Moustache bar, ever so many wide and
> flared drop bars starting with the original WTB bar, any number of
> "tourist" bars, straightish and sweepback, all sorts of straight mtb bars
> with and without bar ends, and various anatomical road bars (uck, agh,
> yuck, ptooey, gag, hack, pffft, sptuey), and I always, always, always go
> back to a 38 cm to 42 cm old-fashioned round-bend, long-ish reach, med to
> shallow-drop drop bar -- Nitto 185s to Noodles to, now, Maes Parallels. For
> drop bars, it's wide and anatomical that hurt my hands and annoy my
> shoulders more than flare.
>
> I've just cut my bikes to 3, and all of them have the Maes Parallel. The
> MPs on the 2 road bikes (that 1999 Joe Starck Riv Road custom and the 2020
> Matthews clone of the 2003 Curt Goodrich Riv Road custom) have 38 cm bars
> (at hoods) while my fat tire Matthews road bike has a wide 42 cm Maes
> Parallel. Note that I don't ride small frames: I was professionally fitted
> long ago for a 60 c-c.
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 2:23 PM Josh Lubben  wrote:
>
>> Hi All!
>> I currently have an Albatross bar on my Homer, which I love. I also love
>> doing bar swaps from time to time on my bikes as it can make the bike feel
>> like a completely different bike.
>>
>> I'm curious to hear what drop bars folks are running on whatever
>> Rivendell you happen to own? I've considered the Crust Towel Rack bar for
>> my Homer, so if you happen to be using one of those I'd love to hear your
>> thoughts on that bar/see any pictures you might have. But as the post title
>> suggests, I'd love to hear about any other drop bars y'all like to use.
>>
>> Also, if you've switched from a swept back bar to a drop bar on your Riv,
>> what adjustments to stem length did you need to make? I know this can be
>> impacted by the bar of choice, but just wanting to get a sense of how much
>> of change you experience in stem length.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Josh
>>
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Re: [RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?

[Patrick Moore]

I've tried several varieties of Moustache bar, ever so many wide and flared
drop bars starting with the original WTB bar, any number of "tourist" bars,
straightish and sweepback, all sorts of straight mtb bars with and without
bar ends, and various anatomical road bars (uck, agh, yuck, ptooey, gag,
hack, pffft, sptuey), and I always, always, always go back to a 38 cm to 42
cm old-fashioned round-bend, long-ish reach, med to shallow-drop drop bar
-- Nitto 185s to Noodles to, now, Maes Parallels. For drop bars, it's wide
and anatomical that hurt my hands and annoy my shoulders more than flare.

I've just cut my bikes to 3, and all of them have the Maes Parallel. The
MPs on the 2 road bikes (that 1999 Joe Starck Riv Road custom and the 2020
Matthews clone of the 2003 Curt Goodrich Riv Road custom) have 38 cm bars
(at hoods) while my fat tire Matthews road bike has a wide 42 cm Maes
Parallel. Note that I don't ride small frames: I was professionally fitted
long ago for a 60 c-c.

On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 2:23 PM Josh Lubben  wrote:

> Hi All!
> I currently have an Albatross bar on my Homer, which I love. I also love
> doing bar swaps from time to time on my bikes as it can make the bike feel
> like a completely different bike.
>
> I'm curious to hear what drop bars folks are running on whatever Rivendell
> you happen to own? I've considered the Crust Towel Rack bar for my Homer,
> so if you happen to be using one of those I'd love to hear your thoughts on
> that bar/see any pictures you might have. But as the post title suggests,
> I'd love to hear about any other drop bars y'all like to use.
>
> Also, if you've switched from a swept back bar to a drop bar on your Riv,
> what adjustments to stem length did you need to make? I know this can be
> impacted by the bar of choice, but just wanting to get a sense of how much
> of change you experience in stem length.
>
> Thanks!
> Josh
>
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[RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?

[Josh Lubben]

Hi All!
I currently have an Albatross bar on my Homer, which I love. I also love 
doing bar swaps from time to time on my bikes as it can make the bike feel 
like a completely different bike. 

I'm curious to hear what drop bars folks are running on whatever Rivendell 
you happen to own? I've considered the Crust Towel Rack bar for my Homer, 
so if you happen to be using one of those I'd love to hear your thoughts on 
that bar/see any pictures you might have. But as the post title suggests, 
I'd love to hear about any other drop bars y'all like to use. 

Also, if you've switched from a swept back bar to a drop bar on your Riv, 
what adjustments to stem length did you need to make? I know this can be 
impacted by the bar of choice, but just wanting to get a sense of how much 
of change you experience in stem length.

Thanks! 
Josh 

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